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Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 2:07am On Jun 23, 2017

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 2:06am On Jun 23, 2017

Christianity Etc › Who Heard The Bang? by IKC10(op): 1:27am On Jun 23, 2017*

Firstly, please, let me establish that I am not one of those who would curse and disrespect your opinions or religion here. Feel free to say your mind. We are simply sharing knowledge.

Let's begin with the misconception that the Big Bang led to the creation of all things. I will try to use a few words to drive my points home. This bang is assumed to have occurred, giving rise to even life itself. Would you just take a minute of your time to think about how organized the human race (for example,) is. Think of the marks on your palms. How could a bang have put it there? Probably, the bang had got a hand to draw with! (ha ha!) What about the quality and capacity of the human brain? How could an inanimate bang have created something that all world scientists put together, would never be able to create (the brain)? What about "the thorny devil lizard."? How could a bang have structured its body the way it is? Ponder over other living creatures and their definite appearances (the chameleon, the schools of fishes in the seas, snakes, elephants, etc) Think of the great Mississippi, and other water bodies in this globe, how was it possible that a bang made all these crop up?
Now, if you are going to argue and say, "No, IKC, you are wrong, there was a bang, oh, big bang that actually created!" Well, I would calmly ask you, who heard the bang? Did you? There was no banging anything, please! Let me even tell you, it is easier to believe that a supreme being created the universe, than believing there was a big bang that formed things. Believe me, if there was a bang, and you believe it so much, ok ok ok, wait a minute, something must have caused the bang. Yeah, something! And if there was, then, it was something supreme. You got it, didn't you?
In summary, I wanna ask you again, who heard the bang? did you? Were you there? Please, think well ! Your opinions are welcome. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 12:49am On Jun 23, 2017

chalantmike:
...Jesus said his is the way, the truth and the light ,he did not say he is the only WAY.

Sir, with all due respect, you need to revisit the meaning of the word the. It is an article which refers to a specific thing/ person who is the only thing or person in a place, at a time. If Jesus said He is the WAY, according to you, then, He is the Only way!

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 12:48am On Jun 23, 2017

chalantmike:
...Jesus said his is the way, the truth and the light ,he did not say he is the only WAY.

Sir, with all due respect, you need to revisit the meaning of the word the. It is an article which refers to a specific thing/ person who is the only thing or person in a place, at a time. If Jesus said he is the WAY, according to you, then, He is the Only way!

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 11:52pm On Jun 22, 2017

chalantmike:
are yhu not a slowpoke, even in the churches yhud find people who gain their wealth from the water.there is great wealth in the sea, as to the existence of mermaid,demons etc. dunno Buh as to the existence of gods and gods ruling the sea, then yes they exist.

Isaiah 60:5
Then you will look and be radiant, your heart will throb and swell with joy; the wealth on the seas will be brought to you, to you the riches of the nations will come.

yhu want people to come out and confess their wealth is from the seas, so yhu and yhur fellow hypocrites can go on a witch hunt, crucifying all that is different from yhu.

listen many people, numerous to count use God,Jesus,the church as a public umbrella, a social hideout, to hide and erase suspicion.

I can tell yhu for a fact that occultic men his mostly in the Catholic church, bazaar, harvest, thanks giving ,lent etc they come out in full colors to show their wealth, caused wealth cause whoever partakes of it,is in trouble. the Catholic church never runs out of funds, donations etc, the Catholic church has its root deep in occultism, cause of its openness, clueless-ness of its genuine followers, and heavey pagan rituals.

the above is an example of people hiding in the church, when yhu see their wealth, yhud think its Jesus Christs work,they'd even come out and testify in his name.

anyone can call the name Jesus, its power is drawn by the intent of who calls it. if not its just an ordinary name.

What are you actually saying, sir?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 9:52pm On Jun 22, 2017

Samsimple:
E b like say breeze of recession neva blow reach una side abi..if big bang is true or nt wu big bang epp... Y are human so curious, why cant u jst sit and tink abt some tin that happens in reality ehhnn, big bang or no big bang oohh will it put food on ur table...ooohh i knw ur problem op.. U are try to create a platform for unnecessary argument that u knw u cant win..
Hopefullandlord abeg finish am

But some people, notwithstanding, need to know the truth.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 3:27pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
#pending ... 1 Cor 11 vs 3 . You still haven't tell us how a Supreme being could have an HEAD he obeys, just as a woman have an HEAD she obeys.
( knowing fully well, that Supreme being cannot have an Head )

Now , Are You sure the above Verse is referring to Jesus ? ON TWO STRONG BASIS.

~ Almighty cannot have a HEAD

~ Rev 1 vs 4,5 Proves the one which is and which was and which was to come IS NOT JESUS
Respond to your pending part ...

The end will tell who is wrong or right.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 3:10pm On Jun 22, 2017

GodsMopol:
I heard the bang, it was so quiet.

Then, bro, your are the most comic on nairaland.

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 3:06pm On Jun 22, 2017

rollybest:
@peacefullove let's analyze this in a layman's way .
In English we have common and proper noun.the common noun is general while the proper noun is specific.The word God serves as common noun while considering the proper aspect we have The Father,the son and the spirit.

Yeah

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 3:04pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
Jesus Christ is not the Almighty, Almighty cannot be commanded by anyone, Anyone that commands you MUST BE HIGHER THAN YOU IN AUTHORITY!!!

Now if the Father is the head and gives command, Does that not prove he is the MOST HIGH ?

Continue twisting God's Word. Whether or not you believe it, Jesus created you, and he is the Almighty. If He isn't, tell me who is.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 3:03pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
Jesus Christ is not the Almighty, Almighty cannot be commanded by anyone, Anyone that commands you MUST BE HIGHER THAN YOU IN AUTHORITY!!!

Now if the Father is the head and gives command, Does that not prove he is the MOST HIGH ?

Continue twisting God's Word. [b] Whether or not you believe it, Jesus created you, and he is the Almighty. If He isn't, tell me who is. [/color]

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 2:58pm On Jun 22, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
you'll only expose your ignorance further

Ok, let's see, until then.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 2:47pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
#pending ... 1 Cor 11 vs 3 . You still haven't tell us how a Supreme being could have an HEAD he obeys, just as a woman have an HEAD she obeys.
( knowing fully well, that Supreme being cannot have an Head )

Now , Are You sure the above Verse is referring to Jesus ? ON TWO STRONG BASIS

~ Almighty cannot have a HEAD

~ Rev 1 vs 4,5 Proves the one which is and which was and which was is to come IS NOT JESUS

Respond to your pending part ...

The issue about the head thing still boils down to Jesus Christ being the ALMIGHTY. Do you doubt that? Well The Father is the head in the sense that when the three manifest, the Father is the head and dictates what happens. God is an organised PERSON and being. It goes this way...
The Father speaks the Word (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit acts on the Word. Imagine what happens when everybody gives command at your place of work and nobody acts on the words that are spoken. The organization is sure to die. You see, God is organised.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 2:35pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
I didn't ask for the above philosophies . Simple question is Jesus the most High .

Show me one single place in your bible where Jesus is called MOST HIGH ?

Can the MoST HIGH have a God ?

Can the Most high have an Head he obeys ? 1 Corinth 11 vs 3

be sincere with those three questions.

Jesus talking about Himself in Revelation1:8, said, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Please compare MOST HIGH & ALMIGHTY. Please read the Bible with understanding

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 2:31pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
I didn't ask for the above philosophies . Simple question is Jesus the most High .

Show me one single place in your bible where Jesus is called MOST HIGH ?

Can the MoST HIGH have a God ?

Can the Most high have an Head he obeys ? 1 Corinth 11 vs 3

be sincere with those three questions.

Jesus talking about Himself in Revelation1:8, said, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 2:23pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
I didn't ask for the above philosophies . Simple question is Jesus the most High .

Show me one single place in your bible where Jesus is called MOST HIGH ?

Can the MoST HIGH have a God ?

Can the Most high have an Head he obeys ? 1 Corinth 11 vs 3

be sincere with those three questions.

Jesus talking about Himself in Revelation1:8, said, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 2:18pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
You are the most confuse on this thread bro, @ ReD , let me grab your point first cos I dont go in circles ... are you saying Jesus is God the Father OR he represents God the Father ?

Jesus Christ is the word of the Father. Don't you have words as a person? He is God's Word. What confuses you is that of the Word becoming a person, right?

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 1:42pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
You are the most confuse on this thread bro, @ ReD , let me grab your point first cos I dont go in circles ... are you saying Jesus is God the Father OR he represents God the Father ?

Jesus Christ is the word of the Father. Don't you have words as a person? He is God's Word. What confuses you os that that Word gas to become a person, right?

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 1:37pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
LIE, not equal ... God is the HEAD of Christ (1 Corint 11 vs 3).

How can you be EQUAL with your head ?

But do you close your eyes to the part that said " LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU " ... so its now bad to have such mind of equality in the bible you quote aftrall its not robbery to claim equality with God ?

God wasn't talking about a mind of equality there. You missed the mark, there. Reading it in context, it says to possess the right mindset of being Gods, not being equal with God. No theory or postulation ever proves that man is equal with God. Do you have any.

"God is the head of Christ." , you don't understand it. I had told you that God manifests as the three:

1. The Father
2. The Son
3. The Holy Spirit
They are the same PERSON but manifest differently. When manifesting differently, The Father is the head or He gives the command...etc. This is why you need the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible in its real contexts. Hope you got me?

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 1:35pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
LIE, not equal ... God is the HEAD of Christ (1 Corint 11 vs 3).

How can you be EQUAL with your head ?

But do you close your eyes to the part that said " LET THIS MIND BE IN YOU " ... so its now bad to have such mind of equality in the bible you quote aftrall its not robbery to claim equality with God ?

God wasn't talking about a mind of equality there. You missed the mark, there. Reading it in context, it says to possess the right mindset of being Gods, nit being equal with God. No theory or postulation ever prices that man is equal with God. Do you have any.

"God is the head of Christ." , you don't understand it. I had told you that God manifests as the three:

1. The Father
2. The Son
3. The Holy Spirit
They are the same PERSON but manifest differently. When manifesting differently, The Father is the head, ir gives the command...etc. This is why you need the Holy Spirit to understand the Bible in its real contexts. Hope you got me?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 1:14pm On Jun 22, 2017

LLSAINT:
Even if there was, hopefullandlord should be able to tell us who heard the bang?

Nairalanders! Please, Who heard the big bang? I think this should be the topic of my intending new post. LLSAINT do I have your permission, sir? grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 12:42pm On Jun 22, 2017

rollybest:
@peacefullove note the above

Thanks rollybest for letting him know he needs to note it!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:39pm On Jun 22, 2017

LLSAINT:
you have every right to question my understanding of science as I presume you are one of those who believe the world is as old as you can never imagine thereby buttressing the evolution theory. The whole idea of the bing bang theory is to cement the evolution theory even if you presumptions of historic perspectives are to be considered. However, my question to you is in line with theories in physics; who caused the big-bang?

There was never anything as the big bang.

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:30pm On Jun 22, 2017

adepeter26:
Read again please

Ok, thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:24pm On Jun 22, 2017

adepeter26:
A typical Christian mentality

Big bang is false but God created the universe from nothing.

Something must have brought about the bang but nothing created the creator.

Big bang is false because the Bible said so. The Bible is correct

If this isn't hypocritical, then, you are correct, sir!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:22pm On Jun 22, 2017

adepeter26:
Hypocrisy without rivalry is when you big bang theory is FALSE but agree God created the universe from Nothing to be real & TRUE.

I don't get you, sir

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:20pm On Jun 22, 2017

GodsMopol:
When does the misdirected opinion of a man who just wanted to prove otherwise of what has been written expressly become a standard

I don't get you sir.

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 12:17pm On Jun 22, 2017

Friend you need to read the bible with the help of the Holy Spirit and not just as a mere book cooked up by some man

Peacefullove:
Hehehehe, the same Yeshua that said Father is greater than I , is also the same Yeshua that thought it NOT robbery to be equal with God.

what a contradiction.

It's like something do cover the eyes of many people when you read this verses, sorry .... YOU mean Humans CAN ALSO thought it not Robbery OR consider himself equal to God then .

dont forget , the verse said ; LET THIS MIND BE IN YOu" ?

If this Mind should be in his followers, then do you agree You are GODS, mean they are also equal to God ?

Jesus Christ is equal with God, but humans are not equal with God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 12:11pm On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
lemme get you

Jesus is God the Father ?

I hope you do know that your words represent you in an exactness that distinguishes you everywhere you go? Jesus is the Word of God. Our infinite minds can't understand all there is about God. But get a little of it that the Word of God is able to,be transformed into,a person whom we know and address as Jesus Christ

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 12:02pm On Jun 22, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
Your understanding of science and evolution is so flawed, I can only assume you were home schooled. Please take the time to read about science from scientists, because the fallacious tripe you've just regurgitated here (presumably from your pastor or fellow believers) is so wrong, I'm at a loss as to where to even start.

let me just drop this FACT here to spark your curiosity, so you can get some true knowledge, big bang was first proposed by a theist, Georges Lemaître, a Belgian physicist and Roman Catholic priest, and the Pope even wanted to make it part of the Christian doctrine as " proof of god "

I am not going against science. The issue is that you need to know that the Word of God is more real than science.

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 11:47am On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
@ rollybest, Am quoting this again cos you refuse to reply at first . With your above statement , I hope you know the meaning of SUPREME being. Since the Supreme being alone deserves capital " G" , tell us ... is Jesus the Supreme being ?

Jesus is the Supreme Being. The case here is that you don't understand that Jesus manifests as the following people:
1. God the Father.
2. God the Son (Jesus Christ, the Word of God) and,
3. The Holy Spirit (the Spirit of the Father and Jesus Christ)

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