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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 5:12pm On Jul 07, 2017
sonofmanj3:
Do you know in the scripture Jesus is the one known as the king of kings lord of Lords Jesus is referred to as the beginning and the end the alpha and omega this are the character of God in Hebrew God referred to Jesus as God this is God calling God. In John he is referred to as the creator of all things in Isaiah he is known as the everlasting father. This is God revealed in the name of Jesus until you know Jesus as God then you don't know God yet. http//truebelieversnow..com.ng
That's true bro! God bless you sir.
Religion / Re: All Things Work Together For Good To Them That Love God And Are In His Purpose by IKC10(m): 5:08pm On Jul 07, 2017
spacetacular:

This is my first personal topic on this website and I hope you find it encouraging and...Be inspired and learn to live to add value to someone besides yourself. In the end I am here because you are there. I am who I am because of you and as long as you live and I live also, you will always give me reason to become more than I am today just for your sake.

God bless those who read to the end. Going out to celebrate now. Cheers!
What a wonderful post and a lesson. God bless your career, ministry and life. Keep it up dear!

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Religion / Re: Christian Doctors And Science Students (science Vs Religion) by IKC10(m): 4:50pm On Jul 07, 2017
JackBizzle:



My friend, forget about those spiritual mumbo jumbo.
Call all your witches and herbalists they all die by fire or gunshot
There is no true atheist. They don't exist. If they doubt the existence of the spiritual realm and powers, it's just mere pretence they'd drop before long.

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Religion / Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 11:41am On Jul 07, 2017
hopefulLandlord:

and the part you talked bout "magic", have you heard about "The Great Tantra challenge"? https://www.nairaland.com/3381868/indian-atheist-challenges-spiritualist-kill#49823451
Sir, are you trying to disbelieve the existence of magical powers, or what?
Religion / Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 12:34am On Jul 04, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


how have the responses been so far?
Sir, I wrote something to you that you never gave response to. Check my last reply. Happy new month and day!
Religion / Re: A Simple Rebuttal To One Very Common Argument Made By Atheists . by IKC10(m): 8:46am On Jun 29, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Some atheists say that it is petty . Some of them say that it disproves the existence of God . Only if they could just relax and try to understand who God is or what His attributes are ? You may be wondering what this argument is . Its pretty funny . The small-minded atheist cannot fathom why God is so concerned with what humans who dwell in a 'little speck of cosmic dust' do
People like you should live long, and not only on earth but also on NL too. Thanks,so much dear.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 8:38am On Jun 29, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:


There is historical evidence of Christ's life and resurrection and that's why it is different .

End of story .
Good you said that sir. Thank God you believe Jesus is the creator of the universe!

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Religion / Re: "Nigerian Man Who Woke Up After Being Declared Dead By Doctors" Tells His Story by IKC10(m): 10:56am On Jun 27, 2017
spacetacular:



All I could read from your self venom was yackity yackity yack mingled with a lot of low self esteem and a deep sense of inferiority complex.

Of all the things to mention it's just the "UK doctor" that irks you. Well I wonder the last time you bent down and kissed Your Own feet out of self love.

The embassies of the world are open to all. Try visiting one if you feel my occupational location gives you cause to toss and turn all night.
I am loving the attention though even though it's hurting you by doing so.
English on point. Thank God for NL grammarians who can express themselves in defence of their opinions. Keep it up my dear. In fact, I'd love to follow you.

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Religion / Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by IKC10(m): 9:27am On Jun 27, 2017
oglalasioux:


I ain't blind my good man.
Ok, I heard you sir.
Religion / Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by IKC10(m): 8:45am On Jun 27, 2017
oglalasioux:


Lol

Did I quote the bible? I simply helped clarify what OP was trying to say. But if the bible truly supports what OP opined, then it's time every reasonable human being threw away that warped book. It's too old and primitive for the modern world.
My God will open your eyes one day!

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Religion / Re: My Right Hands Keep Shaking Since I Had An Encounter With God. by IKC10(m): 12:35am On Jun 27, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


morning brother, hope you're good!
Yes sir, I am. Thanks
Religion / Re: My Right Hands Keep Shaking Since I Had An Encounter With God. by IKC10(m): 12:23am On Jun 27, 2017
hopefulLandlord:


I would ridicule the ideas of a neighbour I love if his/her ideas are worthy of ridicule, I expect him/her to reciprocate the same when my ideas are also worthy of ridicule
Someone who lets me keep believing the moon is made of green cheese isn't doing me any favors at all.
Good morning friend.
Religion / Re: If Any Man Be In Christ, All Past Records Are Deleted by IKC10(m): 12:06am On Jun 27, 2017
oglalasioux:
Therefore, brethren, kill as many people as you wish. Take other people's property by force including their wives or husbands. Lie your way out of any situation. ..

Don't worry, brethren. When you are through, just accept Jesus and you are as good as new.

Nonsense!
You misinterpret the Bible, dear.
Religion / Re: Why Does The Brain Sleep When The Discussion Is About God by IKC10(m): 11:56pm On Jun 26, 2017
luvmijeje:


I'm sorry I can't have this conversation with a guy who don't believe in God talkless of an angel holding a wind.

A Christian should please quote me.
My dear sister, you should know that someone who is already against the Word of God, will continue to see flaws in it. We need do more than just trying to share knowledge with them, we also need to keep praying for them in love
Religion / Re: Why Does The Brain Sleep When The Discussion Is About God by IKC10(m): 11:51pm On Jun 26, 2017
Hhmmmm [h]Arguments[/h]
Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 11:02am On Jun 26, 2017
valboy20:
So, you do know about the Shroud of Tourin? Let me tell you sir, the early historians never disproved His resurrection, so, what do you mean? Now, if you call it quits, then I pray for you, my dear, that my God will open your eyes one day in Jesus' name.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 10:17am On Jun 26, 2017
Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 9:46am On Jun 26, 2017
valboy20:


Your arguments are pretty weak bro. You just said it yourself 'he CLAIMED equality with God.'
Sir, you should know the usage of that English word there.

valboy20:

Claims are not evidence.
Jesus didn't have mere claims, His led to His death. Did you ever know, sir, that He actually fulfilled His Words? For example, He said He would die and rise again, and He did exactly that
valboy20:
Mohammed claimed Jesus wasn't divine.
Sir, anybody can claim anything and that thing wouldn't take probably a single minute to be disproved, you know this! Sir, but when it comes to Jesus' case, it can't be so easily disproved So, in conclusion, we should take Jesus' case differently because no one has been able to do one over a trillion of what He did. If you doubt His divinity, then you should be able to disprove the writings of atheist, pagan, Jewish, Islamic, secular, and Christian historians about Him. You see, I don't think you can, sir. And lastly, with all due respect sir, Do You Believe There Was A Man Called Jesus Christ, who walked this earth over 2000 years ago? Even in the Quran, it I clearly stated that Jesus is "The Spirit of Allah." So, if Jesus is the Spirit of Allah, whom the Quran claims is divine, how come Jesus, His Spirit isn't divine? Tell me sir, since you were talking about the Quran. See, sir, everything proves Jesus' divinity.

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Religion / Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(m): 8:28am On Jun 26, 2017
Seakay:

like i said, you're free to believe in whatever you want to, as long as it doesn't contradict the concept of true and everlasting love.
I pray God will open your eyes today, sir.

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Religion / Re: Christians , Please What's Your Take On This by IKC10(m): 8:19am On Jun 26, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Is it right in the 'eyes of God' for a single Christian man who has never married before to bear children through surrogacy ? You know just to circumvent fornication which is a sin
wink
Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 8:14am On Jun 26, 2017
valboy20:

Dude do you have comprehension issue? You wouldn't be asking me why Jeebus was executed if you grasped my post 'cause I already stated the reason there. If you don't have nothin' new to say, why bothering with the new thread?
I am sorry sir, I beg to disagree. The charge over Him was never that of sedition. They,crucified Him because:
1. He claimed equality with God.
2. He said He'd rise again after 3 days..., etc.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 8:02am On Jun 26, 2017
ifeyemi200:
I am waiting for part 2.this is interesting
Thanks ifeyemi200, you are going to see it soon.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 7:59am On Jun 26, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Some Christians don't know this . Jesus is actually the creator of the universe and pre-incarnate Jesus communicated with Adam and Eve at the Garden (that's if you take with the creation story literally ) , he became a friend to Abraham and is the God Abraham actually worshipped . So the Abrahamic religions - Christians , Muslims , and Jews - through the apt understanding of the scriptures are actually worshiping Jesus Christ . Its crazy right ?
I love this real good!!

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 7:54am On Jun 26, 2017
valboy20:
This is truly funny.
Nobody can prove the divinity of Jesus. Mind you, quoting the Bible to prove Jesus divinity is a circular logic fallacy. Try again. Lol
You don't believe His divinity, right? Ok, but, please do tell me why you think Jesus Christ was crucified. And what was the charge against Him? Your answer alone will prove His divinity.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 7:52am On Jun 26, 2017
Really?
Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 7:46am On Jun 26, 2017
oaroloye:
SHALOM!

It is just not fair to pretend that you have "PROOF" when all you have is "PROPAGANDA."

It makes Christians look foolish.

YAHSHUA NEVER SAID THAT HE WAS THE CREATOR.
Dear friend, if you say this, then, it seems you are forgetting the New Testament in a hurry. Please sir, do read my points again and the one I wrote to hopefullandlord

oaroloye:
If he ever had, he would have been executed immediately, and his followers summarily executed also.
Then, what was the reason Jesus and His disciples died?

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Religion / Re: Bible "Contradiction" For Dummies: A Correction For Internet "Atheists" by IKC10(m): 1:43pm On Jun 25, 2017
felixomor:

The Bible does not contradict itself.
Over the centuries past, Numerous Agnostic and even some atheist professors who have thoroughly studied the entire bible have on many occasions, come to that conclusion, even despite admitting they dont believe it. Although many came to later believe after a complete study of it.

I would like to first define what a contradiction is according to the Oxford English dictionary;

A combination of statements, ideas, or features which are opposed to one another:


A good example will be thus:
"John went to school "

To contradict or oppose this statement,
I will have to say;
"John never went to school"

In the light of the aforementioned definition;
"John went to market"
would not even by any means, be a contradiction to
"John went to school"

Why? You may ask.
The answer is simple;

John may have gone to both school and the market, but at different times.


Both statements can be correct, and so will not be qualified to be regarded as opposed to each other. Hence not contradicting nor inconsistent with each other.

Another example would be:
1. "John met a girl called Mary at school"
2. "John met many girls at school"

These two statements coming from 2 different authors can be correct.

How?
The answer is simple;

John could have met Mary at 8am and subsequently met Patricia, Rose, Bolanle and Rukky at 9am, 10am, 11am and12noon respectively.

So it would obviously have been foolish to call both statements contradictions of each other, or to say both statements are not consistent with each other.

It would have been a different scenario if the original statement was;

"John met only Mary at school"

In this case,
"John met many girls at school"
would be a contradiction.

The word "only" would clearly be the changing factor.

And Still on this example, It will even be more foolish to ask,
"how many girls were at John's school?"

Why is it foolish to ask so?
The answer is easy too.

The subject of the statements was not the total population of girls at John's school.
The subject was rather based on the fact that John met girl/girls at school.

A last example would be;

"John said we could come"
and
"They said we could come"

These 2 statements coming from 2 different authors are not by any means contradictions, neither are they inconsistent, as there are numerous possible ways both could happen and still be true as follows;

1. John could be the spokesman of "they"

OR

2. John and "they" could have said so at different times.

OR

3. John and "they" could have also said so at the same
time in unison

4. And so on and so forth

The only way I could have contradicted

"John said we could come"
Is to have said
"John never said we could come"..


Thats that for buttressing the explanation of what contradictions are.

Coming Back to the bible and the issue of young internet users who claim to be atheists today, its quite unfortunate that many seem to throw around the word "contradiction" all in an attempt to discredit the bible for their personal fleshly gain.
They usually use the internet for this by posting falsely titled articles that make them appear like well researched bible skeptic sholars.

The Parts of the bible where they usually do this, are where different authors give accounts of the same biography or events.
For example, the gospels, 1st and 2nd Kings, Chronicles, Samuel etc.

I will, for the sake of this article, pick one from the popular ones they throw around.

Luke 24:4-5
And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:
5. And as they were afraid, and bowed down their faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead?


AND

Mark 16:5-6
 And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted.
6.And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him
.

Firstly, Take note, Luke says what happened
"as they were perplexed"

Mark says what happened
"as they entered"

As we can see, Two different points in time
Just take note.

Secondly, also take note
The subject topic of both scriptures is NOT the total population count of men or angel messengers that were inside the tomb.
As a matter of fact, if you observe, carefully, none of those two parts of scriptures mentions the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

The subject of both scriptures was what transpired at different points in time while the women entered and also while they were within the tomb.
Just take note.


But guess what


These two portions of the bible are boldly and wrongly pointed as contradictions to each other on an anti-christian bible quiz  website that was featured on one article written by Seun recently
You can check it here:

http://exchristian.net/3

To tell you the extent of their insincerity and utter dishonesty,
They did it by asking the question

" How many men were in Jesus' tomb when the women arrived?"


A careful look at this question would show you that the subject of this question is based on the total population count seen by the women on arrival.
Hence the phrase "How many men"

Moreso, the quiz question also specified subject time; "on arrival"

However and contrarily, none of those bible verses highlighted above had the subject of total population counts.

And also, Mark was the only one who decribed in detail what happened as "they entered" which is synonymous with "on arrival"


They intentionally used a question with a different subject and subject time to arrive at the conclusion that both portions of the bible contradicted each other.

When in actual truth, their question (based on "arrival"wink was generated from a momentary description from Mark.

They devilishly picked another momentary description for another point in time, from Luke and arrived at the false claim of "contradiction".

Just As illustrated in our earlier example,

"John met a girl at school"
Vs.
"John met many girls at school"

Also, For clarity sake, no portion of the bible talks about the total number of angels that were at the tomb.

Unfortunately, This is not the only portion of the bible they have dishonestly represented as contradiction before.
They have done so on many other verses, as I said before.

For example, the bible never mentioned the number of wise men who came to present gifts to baby Jesus.
But what we find commonly today even among Christians is "three wise men".
This is Wrong!

Another example; the bible never mentions the age of the earth despite the fact that many people go around saying the bible says the earth is 6000 years old

Thank God for bible explanation websites today that can easily be found using search engines like google.
As a result, These verses can now easily be researched.
A good one is www.biblestudytools.com
Such websites are free for everyone to use.

And most importantly, thank God for the Holy Spirit Who reveals these things to us.

Whenever a sincere truth-seeking person is in doubts, he should pray for understanding and the Holy Ghost would open his eyes to understand God's word.

You could also search bible verse explanations on google and youtube.
There are many other free resources online.
Bible explanation is not meant for only theologians and seminarians.

It is sad that many of these young folks who have not read the bible completely before, fall for this "bible contradiction" gimmick and begin to call themselves atheists.
When u Ask them "why?" they would scream "bible contradiction".

The "bible contradiction" gimmick is a plot by the devil directed towards young people of today, to discourage them from approaching what he fears the most, which is the Sword of the Word of God.


He makes them to Forget what the term "contradiction" means in the first place. Giving them a false sense of protection for their sins.
As a result, they never get to ask God for forgiveness.

The devil also makes them forget the fact that being skeptic doesnt necessarily make you an atheist.


My prayer is that, may the Lord Open their eyes to the truth and deliver them from this grand deception.

Amen.




cc kingebukasblog, felixomor, anas09, shadeyinka, Gombs, Goodmuyis, promise10, pigdin2, lacklicklabendin, naijadeyhia, 4everGod, damogul
What a nice post!
Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 1:20pm On Jun 25, 2017
felixomor:
Nice one Op,

Keep it coming.
Thanks sir.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 1:17pm On Jun 25, 2017
Immorttal:
IKC10 you are still learning work grin
even felixomor and bubu will laugh at this post, soo incoherent. Dont waste your time on the part 2, save your strenght bro happy sunday wink
Thanks so much sir. But I pray that my God will open your eyes one day. Go write it down sir. Happy Sunday.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 6:41pm On Jun 24, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I'm impressed, not with the message but with the effort you must've put into doing these

asides that however there's nothing in this article of yours that can be good enough for a doubter, it can only work for someone favourably inclined to it, its filled with circular reasoning fallacy
Thanks sir. With all due respect, anybody can claim to be God and you sure know it won't take much writing to disprove such claims. But when it comes to Jesus' claims of divinity, it can't be so easily disproved sir. Why? Because, Jewish historians, Pagan historians, Atheist historians, Islamic historians, Christian historians, Secular historians, etc have in one way or the other written historical facts that are coherent with what is written in the Bible. For example sir, a larger percentage of all historians agree that there was a man called Jesus Christ of Nazareth who lived 2000 years ago, claimed, to be God, and some historians are coherent with His resurrection claims as seen in the Holy Bible. So you see sir, trying to disprove Jesus' claims as God, you have to prove to me that you are more profound in History than these firsthand historians, which is never possible because you are only a twenty-first century historian (that's even if you are a historian) However Jesus had critics, but some of these critics still penned down some of the truths coherent with what Jesus said in the Bible. So, sir, Jesus is one guy that His story has prevailed over 2000years and has claimed a reasonable percentage of over 7billion humans on the planet. You know why? Because it's not easy to disprove His existence, ministry, death and resurrection. Sir, in my next post, I will follow you up with non-biblical history that prove the divinity of Jesus Christ from the above historians and more, hinting their exact statements and the books where you can find them. And for your information, I am a balanced Christian, I have weighed this divinity issue about Jesus from various angles, even from your point of view as an atheist, and can only conclude that it makes more sense to give Jesus the benefit of the doubt. For me, it makes less sense to try to explain the existence of the universe by using scientific facts alone, because science is myopic in many things. Even NASA scientists are wallowing in a lot of confusion as regards the universe. Do you know sir, that there are many unanswered questions by science, and you want to hang your faith on people with such limited knowledge. Sir, this world has a spiritual aspect of it that science can't explain. If you doubt it , then you just have to explain to me scientifically how magicians exhibit their acts. Or would you deny the existence of magicians? Well, if you do, I will give you a list of well -known magicians that if anyone denies spiritual power, and gambles their life for a trial, he might not live to tell the story, not to talk of well-known anointed men of God who have raised the dead and wrought diverse kinds of miracles, with evidence, which science cannot also explain. So you see, to have a balanced view of the universe and its origin, you have to give consideration to both scientific facts (which I agree with--especially when it doesn't contradict spiritual truths) and too, spiritual realities.

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 6:19pm On Jun 24, 2017
adepeter26:

I'm been open-minded. You're the close Minded person here.

You aint making any point.
just like you read from the Bible that Jesus is the creator of the universe, i was told and taught that Panku created the universe.

You try, but your effort wasn't best enough. Try harder next time
Ok sir, but please do read my post to Hopefullandlord now. Thanks

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Religion / Re: Proofs Jesus Created The Universe (part 1) by IKC10(m): 5:00pm On Jun 24, 2017
adepeter26:
@OP, hope you're aware Panku is the creator of the universe and not jesus?
Sir, with all due respect, don't lock your mind and read to argue. Open your mind to see if am making a worthwhile point.

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