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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 11:34am On Jun 22, 2017

Please check this out: 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Phil 2:5-6

Christianity Etc › Re: Your God Is Too Small by IKC10(m): 11:06am On Jun 22, 2017

Realist1:
My friend I know we are not going to be able convince or win each other to each other's side.All I can say is I have been a christian all my life shutting down my reasoning all these years but I couldn't anymore when the errors became too much. I can do without and live fine without Christianity ,but my life will be a living hell without science and what it brings. Heck check what we use to communicate now Smart phone and internet, great thinking.Do have a nice day .

Whatever science has created will be shelved someday because it is not everlasting. There is a hereafter The Question is, how and where are you going to spend it? Are you gonna do that in and with science? Science isn't everlasting, anyway. I am not preaching anything order than that Jesus Christ loves you! Have a good day, too. And await my upcoming post!

Christianity Etc › Re: Your God Is Too Small by IKC10(m): 10:42am On Jun 22, 2017

Realist1:
We are still trying to know and understand how we came to be,atleast that is honest enough.Believing stories hook line and sinker of what some uneducated and probably hallucinating men cooked up centuries ago is no longer holding up. Man got this far by proper reasoning and always finding out why are things what they are.

Finally in terms of creation I go with science's Big bang theory their explanation is logical enough.Science so far has made my life better and kept me alive or else na common malaria for kill me. Do you know diseases was once believed to be caused by evil spirits?

Dear Realist1, there is no assuming anything that Jesus Christ is the creator of the universe. The bible holds it very clearly, and there is not even an iota of assumption anywhere in it. I am putting up a post soon that will clear the confusion off every atheist. If you go with The Big Bang Theory thing, then you can be sure you are following the most illogical thing in the world. I am happy that you are science-inclined, fine, but do yourself the favour of making a research work of the organization of the things that exist today and tell me how that came to be by just a big bang. How did the big bang create the marks on your palm, which is definitely different from mine and anyone else's? Huh? Tell me? Please, you are educated, I wouldn't want you to think like one who isn't. The "Big Bang Theory" is seriously misleading!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 9:29am On Jun 22, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
I'm waiting for the "proof" in your next post

BTW "I don't know" is a good answer, the questions you asked is fundamentally flawed; because it assumes the universe was in fact 'created' or had a 'beginning'. The universe may have been created, it may have a beginning, or it may be eternal. It may be the only one, or it may be one of many or even infinite other universes. We can trace our own universe bag to the Big Bang, but what happens 'before' that (while ignoring how nonsensical it is to posit anything happening before the creation of temporal time itself) is anyone's guess; and it perplexes the smartest people alive. The best, most honest answer we currently have is "I don't know". what we have are simply "guesses"

And any religion that claims to know, is lying to you.

and as for big bang, it isn't an atheist claim at all

I like that you await my post. Untill then. But you know this, ...nothing ever existed on its own. Only Jesus Christ is the self existent God.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 8:55am On Jun 22, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
you keep pulling the false dichotomy fallacy, how is the universe having a creator (assuming it was created) prove Jesus is this creator?

How do you get from the God who created the Universe to the one who is worried about the skin on the tip of my Dick?

I shall prove it in my upcoming post. But the issue is that you complicate things here. Assuming Jesus Christ didn't create it, who else did? And don't even tell me you don't know because it might sound weird. Or would you say it existed on its own, or you're gonna talk about the"Big Bang" stuff?

Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 8:50am On Jun 22, 2017

frank317:
And the drama persists.

Of course your own denomination are the real Christians while others e.g Catholics and JW are not.

It's either u are dumb or Religion has blinded your ability to think. The penticostal are doing their fair share in driving people out of Christianity.

How many reverend fathers are as proud as ur tithe conscious pastors who have made the quest to be rich the subject of Christianity?
Are u deliberately turning blind eyes to how they (penticostal) have turned your churches to a club house?

I for one, was never a Catholic, Pentecostal made me see the light.

Hmmm...God loves you brother!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 8:45am On Jun 22, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
your opinion of atheists are strawman that you heard from fellow Christians, that's like asking about Buhari's achievements so far from a staunch PDP member

I heard it from no one, I read it from the word of God !

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 8:41am On Jun 22, 2017

Seakay:
like i said, you're free to believe in whatever you want to, as long as it doesn't contradict the concept of true and everlasting love.

Jesus is the best definition of love.

Christianity Etc › Re: Your God Is Too Small by IKC10(m): 8:38am On Jun 22, 2017

[quote author=Frederick7 post=57740486][/quote] Were you referring to me, sir?

Christianity Etc › Re: Those Who Dont Preach The Gospel Will Go To Hell by IKC10(m): 8:10am On Jun 22, 2017

diablos:

Okay i don't believe in ur Jesus and all dat died nd resurrected for me piece of crap u fake xtians keep spewing. Let him come and beat me or send me to hell quickly as possible

He will not beat you, dear. He loves you more than you love yourself !

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 6:42am On Jun 22, 2017

Amberon11:
Humans are "gods" not "Gods", There is only one God so there cannot be Gods.

Dear friend, this is not a matter of a debate. The, Bible that I read says that Like begets Like so if God gives birth, He gives birth to Gods and not gods And the Bible says it that God begat us, I.e,gave birth to us. You get it now?

Christianity Etc › Re: Your God Is Too Small by IKC10(m): 6:02am On Jun 22, 2017

Realist1:
Good stuff,exactly what I tell my cousin. I tell him the God of the bible can't create the universe I know .The universe is bigger than any God to create . More so the universe is too dangerous and unsafe for an omnipotent,omniscient and perfect God to create something like that.

They praise him for a universe so perfect he made for us, whereas everything in the universe is going to be destroyed eventually. Everything in the universe and on earth is trying to kill us. Is it the harmful sun rays, meteors that bombard earth and fly by earth every now and then,the fluctuating extreme temperature of space that astronauts face,the explosions of nearby stars including our sun that wipe out anything around them(Gamma ray burst) which our planet might face one day, collision of galaxies,rogue neutron stars that are just flying through space destroying everything on it's path,black holes sucking in everything around them.

Even on earth, Tornadoes, earthquake,volcanic eruptions,landslides,Tsunami,Lightning,diseases,even the humans kill themselves through terrorism,assassination e.t.c Most importantly even our body system fail also,Kidney failure,heart failure, etc. Sometimes our own previously normal body cells turn against us ,cancer. Unless perfection has a new meaning would I believe this is perfect

Why talk like this, friend? Did you just come to be? What is your theory of creation? Let me know

Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 5:32am On Jun 22, 2017

Peacefullove:
you can read John 10 vs 34 too, Humans are GOD too ! period

Humans are Gods too,yes, but you need to know that We are Gods after His order, in His likeness So, does it imply that we are equal with Him?

Christianity Etc › Re: Was JESUS A Drunkard??? by IKC10(m): 10:33pm On Jun 21, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
this is dodging

my question still stands regardless of the spelling!

who amongst you has the Holy Spirit? cuz you guys can't seem to agree on anything despite talking to the same Spirit

By God's grace, I do!

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Christianity Etc › Re: The Meaninglessness Of "I Have A Deep Personal Relationship With Jesus Christ" by IKC10(m): 10:05pm On Jun 21, 2017

HopefulLandlord
Okay,
That's awesome that you know all those things about your sister....
No I don't know specifics about God (down to eye color etc.)...because we're told not to make any graven images....probably so we won't obsess over what He looks like.

My relationship with God is based on faith in Him through His Word. I learn about who God is...first by reading about Him....then through daily prayer...then through trying Him through the promises in His Word.
The more I spend sincere time with Him...the more I start to develop an intimate relationship with Him. I become drawn to His character....and desire to do things that won't disrupt the bond that is being built.
That makes my relationship "meaning-ful"..
Now all of that has to be done in faith (the key word).
Without faith....this is all done in vain.
I must first believe that "......He is and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him" (Hebrews 11:6).

Thanks dear for hitting the nnail on the head. You see, there exists no true atheist. They believe God exists, it's just that they have chosen to fight the truth and confuse things. If they don't believe there is a creator called Jesus Christ , then anyone of them should prove to me how a beautiful and complicated earth came to be without a creator.

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Christianity Etc › Re: For Those That Says Jesus Christ Is NOT God by IKC10(m): 9:39pm On Jun 21, 2017

Jesus Christ is the Word of God, and He too, like the Holy Spirit and the Father, is God, period!

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 4:16pm On Jun 21, 2017*

hopefulLandlord:
he died in your place? how so since you'll still die just like those that don't believe he died in their place? it's kinda confusing, don't you think? I mean, we still die anyways

about the other bullet points, do you have proof of them? how did you know for sure those things happened for real without committing fallacy of circular reasoning?

anyways, let me not argue much here, I'm of the opinion that OP may convince someone who worships Mermaid that mermaid god isn't true BUT can't convince a Muslim or a Hindu

I am not the one who convinces anyone, God does. And I believe nothing is confusing here. (Would you want to call this an argument? I don't think it is, we are simply sharing the knowledge that can affect our lives) When I said that He died in my place, I meant He did die physically to destroy the power of eternal death. Eternal death is more dangerous than physical death because it implies being separated from God--your maker and my maker, eternally. That could be quite awfully dangerous, you know! If you doubt that Jesus ever walked this earth, died, and rose from the dead, dear, check the comments of atheist historians. I know you are an atheist (from my view of your profile) But let's try this...go making your research work. Of course there is hardly an atheist historian (of probably Jesus' time) who doubted the fact, or truth that Jesus did what I have said He did. Check it!

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 3:40pm On Jun 21, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
sir, you just compared Jesus and Mami water as though they're the only gods, you talked about how a true God would assist one in times of trouble, which worshippers of Vishnu, Allah, Mbombo etc also claim their various god do for them, did I forget to add the name "Yahweh"? cuz the Israelites worship Yahweh not Jesus and they also claim that Yahweh is helping them too
then you went destroyed everything by using the bible to prove Jesus

The issue dear, is this, anybody can claim anything, but the question is, which account is true! I wasn't saying that there aren't other "gods" out there--for sure, there is an avalanche of them. But I was talking about Jesus Christ, whom some might call "Yahweh" or any other name they wish to call Him (like you said,) but the truth remains that Jesus is the true God for the following obvious reasons:
1. He is so full of love that He demonstrated it by dying for all humanity on the cross.
2. He didn't only die, but also rose from the grave.
3. He ascended into heaven.
4. Only His name has been causing diverse mind-blowing miracles and signs and wonders globally.
5. Need I say this to rest my case, can you tell of any of the gods you mentioned who loved its people to the point of going to die in their place? Please do tell me if you know any. Thanks

Christianity Etc › Re: "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 3:22pm On Jun 21, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
this logic is nauseating

"Nauseating?" I don't get you, dear.

Christianity Etc › "God" Or "Gods?" by IKC10(op): 3:07pm On Jun 21, 2017*

First of all, let me put it straight to us that Jesus is the only true God.
You might want to read this very carefully. In fact, do if you have always wondered which "God" is the true God. I am an educationist. (You can visit my profile on facebook via www.facebook.com/israel.kenc) I was tutoring some senior secondary school students today and what transpired between us led to my writing this article. They were telling me something about "mermaid." It got so annoying. They said the mermaid spirit (the Queen of the coast) should be worshipped because she is good and that she blesses people! (huh? Is that really true?). And that she only blesses people in exception of the one who directly serves it. That was weird a statement!
When I heard this I asked them to make mention of a single person they knew in the world to whom the so-called mermaid had rendered any help, but they kept quiet, and couldn't do it. And that was the question!It's time to count the cost of what you are doing. For example, if you are serving any God who cannot heal you supernaturally when you are sick, or send you some good stuff when you need it, then, I think he isn't worth your service. The Bible has said it clearly in the book of Acts 4:12-> "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
Mermaid spirit and persons have nothing to offer. But Jesus has all to offer you. He saves, heals, blesses, name it, He does all for us. And the good news is, He has done it all. Let me ask you this, just in case you are going to criticize this article. "Have you found any religion, or creed or anywhere in the world where the dead came back to life, cripples walked, deaf ears got unstopped, blind eyes were opened, etc in any other name except the name of Jesus? (Christianity isn't a religion, anyway) Jesus is not just God, He is THE LORD!

Christianity Etc › Re: Was JESUS A Drunkard??? by IKC10(m): 12:36pm On Jun 21, 2017

hopefulLandlord:
and who exactly is understanding the scriptures with the holy spirit? you guys can't even agree on anything despite claiming to talk to the same holy spirit

https://www.nairaland.com/3844519/meaninglessness-deep-personal-relationship-jesus

Brother, please the truth (and not just the fact) remains that I wasn't talking about "the holy spirit," but "The Holy Spirit ." He is the author of the Bible, and he is the one who solely teaches it. Of course, we can't truly serve God without Him. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: Was JESUS A Drunkard??? by IKC10(m): 3:12am On Jun 21, 2017

THERE is no way anyone can understand the scriptures by mere human educational standards without the Holy Spirit. If we pick up a topic and study and say anything on it, we might be making a dangerous mistake. Well, I suggest that the writer of this article studies the Bible for the sake of understanding it and not just to criticize. Thanks.

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 3:01am On Jun 21, 2017

DoctorAlien:
Very false. Any sane human being cannot even entertain the idea that any thing can come out of nothing, not to talk of proposing the idea that something as complex and ordered as the universe came out of nothing and achieved its present state by the actions of mere blind forces.

Paul aptly stated "that . . . men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof . . . For of this sort are they . . .Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. . . men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men. . ." 2 Tim. 3:1-9

The Big bang theory is "science so falsely called." 1 Tim. 6:20

Hmmmmm... Thanks dear for this piece, I love it. You've just put the whole points out. Love it real good!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 2:57am On Jun 21, 2017

Seakay:
like i said, you're free to believe in whatever you want to, as long as it doesn't contradict the concept of true and everlasting love.

Yeah, but the Bible says that God is the love you refer to. When a person looks at creation and says it came about by a Big Bang, what then can mean going against or contradicting the concept of love? Isn't that going against God and the love you are talking about? It's well!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 2:54am On Jun 21, 2017

LLSAINT:
The proponent of this theory was just trying to discredit the existence that there is A SUPREME GOD after he was criticized in his writing that there is the possibility of a SUPREME HAND in creation. Whatever they call it, the same science made us understand that nothing exist or make sound in a vacuum. Who caused the bang?Mshewww....it is a myth!

Hmmmm...really a myth, dear!

Christianity Etc › Re: The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 11:19pm On Jun 20, 2017

Seakay:
Truth is, nobody knows the truth! Believe whatever u want to and live a happy life.

But friend, the Bible, God's Word, reveals the truth!

Christianity Etc › The Big Bang, True Or False? by IKC10(op): 10:58pm On Jun 20, 2017*

Dear Nairalanders and all who may visit this site for any reason, I wish to bring to your remembrance, a once postulated theory which stipulated that life resulted from the big bang. Really? Was it so? How possible?
Coming to think of it, if one takes a good look at creation, it would be very difficult to conclude that something as big as the earth resulted from a so-called "big bang", or that something as complicated as the human race, came out of such a bang. Looking at nature itself, one should without doubt understand that there must have been a brain behind creation.
This is my point, if we say the big bang caused it all, then, we must not fail to note that only a being as mighty as God could have done it. I don't support the big bang stuff, anyway. What do you think, people?
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