Vary uselessness letter

komengo:
Please dont be deceived. I knw uwant to save money but your best bet is pigmented fibre cement corrugated roofing sheets. Sound proof, Fire resistant and wont get blown off by winds ( 3.5mm thick not 0.45mm) . You can get as low as N1, 000 per square metre. Aluminium of 0.45 mm is like using paper to roof your house. Visit www.nigeritelimited.com

how can you use 3.5mm to roof a house na iron u use norge am? even industrial the recommended gauge is o.7 .nigerian na waah

the truth is bitter .NMA colonised MPH in 9ja.it is not a secret.Few people that did it that are not MBBS doctors know the truth about this and wetin they do.Some schools in naija even clearly put it in their advert for MPH

phantom:

this is why our health system is in shambles. pay for residency

serious governments fund residency training.
the US even funds undergraduate medical training.

Nigerians are a funny lot. get ready to start flying to india. i hope you can afford it otherwise you and your family are finished.

funny Nigerian Medical doctors,u want your own residency but you are fighting others from doing fellowship in their own field(not medicine).It baffles me how these medical doctors think.Some are saying it is war with government,do they know the power government have? Hmmmm my brother go and read about government in time of war .I love this thing done by our president.Medical doctors in 9ja don chew too much.

You are fighting every other health care professional from growing to their peak,from been directors,from been consultants in their own field,from getting their allowances,from becoming CMDs,from further training,from existing.

[b]You are Commissioner of health,ministers of health,perm sec ministry of health in Federal and 97% of states,you are directors of medical service in federal and state ministry,if FMOH and atste Ministry of health have 5 directors you have 4 directors out of five,you are head of HMBs in most states,you are chairmen of most Federal and state Hospital and health related boards and parastattals,including Nafdac,primary health,[/b]etc.

You are MDs,head of most departments including colonization of some of them by force eg optometrist and ophthalmologist,etc,you even want to head medical lab,account dept,administration,medical record,etc.This is not enough after leading(was it actual leading?) and heading everywhere you turn around to say our system is in shamble because of a student that refuse to learn though government pay for his training,his salaries even while in training and will pay him higher on graduation.

WHY IS GOVT NOW EMPLOYING 490 ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS NOW? THIS HAVE BEEN ADVOCATED AND APPROVED FOR LONG BUT NMA HAVE BEEN SITTING ON THIS USING THEIR VARIOUS CONNECTION LIKE THEY DO TO OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS

.NMA COLONISED MASTERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH(MPH) IN NIGERIA,BUT PUBLIC HEALTH IS FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDING GRADUATES OF MASS COMMUNICATION ,HISTORY,ARCHITECTURE,ETC.IN 2011 THE BEST MPH STUDENT IN UCT WAS AN UGANDAN THAT READ MASS COMMUNICATION IN UGANDA.AS IF THIS IS NOT ENOUGH SOME OF THE SCHOOLS IN NIGERIA RENAMED MPH TO BE COMMUNITY HEALTH FOR NON MBBS MEDICAL PRACTITIONERS TO DIFFERENTIATE THEM FROM MPH WHILE THEY DO THE SAME COURSE,TAKE LECTURES TOGETHER WITH MBBS MPH STUDENTS,TAKES THE SAME EXAM BUT GET DIFFERENT CERTIFICATE.TODAY EBOLA IS HERE WITH US AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OFFICERS ARE TO BE EMPLOYED,THEN WHERE ARE THOSE MDCAN PUB HEALTH CONSULTANTS.
JONATHAN I DOFF MY HAT FOR YOU.IT IS 2 MONTHS NOW MBBS DOCTORS ARE ON STRIKE AND WE ARE STILL ALIVE.GOD WILL KEEP US ALIVE TILL HE DECIDE TO CALL US HOME ANY DAY HE WISH.

KUDOS TO GEJ

Why must we wait for d thing to come here before we act.thank God d Liberia man came via air.our boarder is also very porous

0key: Doctors might be 20% of the total health staff but they give out 70% of the total functions of the hospital whereas Johesu members, though 80% of staff capacity, contribute 30% of hospital functions.

when the lab scientists are not around, the pathologists can function effectively.
When the radiographers are not around, the radiologists are present.
Pharmacists only dispense drugs, so their work can be easily handled.
Nurses are d only group doing something meaningful but the house officers can serve in their stead momentarily.

In a nutshell, Hospital functions are performed mainly by the doctors and assisted by the nurses. Other Johesu members do more of fringe works.

This is the biggest fool i have seen.i want to ask you my dear before the advent of modern medicine wetin we get?whajob does a radiologist do that radiographers cannot do,well mdeical drs can do everything,so let them do everything from 15th january to 21 January let see how it is

keshi have been a biz man,lucky for him his luck is still shining,but one day it might stop.he is the kind of leader that listen to gossip and does not want to hear from opposing view.too bad

helping a woman is like breaking palm kernnel for fowl to eat

Iceman296: I don't Believe this, Barth Nnaji had His Own Private Electricity Firm bidding to take Over the Eastern part of the Privatisation. The Only Option he had was to Resign to face that One.

I don't know why we Believe any Junk that Cynical Journalist Posts, No Sane serving minister in Nigeria Would Resign due to threat.

Lie Lie

It is d truth.d man saw death and ran away.for he who fights and run away lives to fight another day.which people com buy NEPA now? Do u think Na those people u see on papers or TVs.hmmmmm.open ur eyes .NEPA HV bn bought by politicians

SPLENDIDFLOZZY: .
He is from usa nt mexico but wat he did was bad... Even 4rm d 1st half he was acting funny nt his fault because we finaly WON

Na Mexican referee

Once am in a bar and a police man wt Gun enters.I quickly tk my beer and bolt. VOOM is better than statement, hospital ,or moutuary.

Next time .get Dia I identity.if police want they can gt it since they are attached to TOTAL.

how much will it cost these home base to gt to camp.it will cost nothing.the air ticket of profs abroad will pay for all of them.keshi wanna pick players for home base nation cup. hr also wanna build up the confidence level of home boys as they train with d big boys.NFF should leave keshi alone.the home boys will not cost anything compare to the money they steal daily.

Ikenna351: Op,

Plagiarism is a serious offence which the forum doesnt allow. Dont copy another man's work and pretend its yours. Its a serious legal matter. It will get you a long ban next time.

Moderator.

Good.i like this,let sanitize our system.Moderator hi-five for u on this

chukwudi44: First and foremost there is nothing in this letter to prove that Anambra state Goverernment received ththis letter nor agreed with the LASG to bring in the destitutes @ 3am

Secondly not all the destitutes were from Anambra state,some were from other south easter states, we even have people from the south-south included.so what will be the basis for dumping this non-anambrarians in anambra? Did fashola also write to oshiomhole,martin elechi and others whoose indigenes were involved? Did these governors agree that their indigenes should be dumped in Anambra?

Obi did not reply because there is no need to reply such a useless letter.No Nigerian deserve this in Nigeria. Fashola is the actual mad man not those people

Emmysteve: 60mins gone. Abeg if we can't score, lets just defend and qualify. my body tenperature is high already.

that is medicine for disaster

omonnakoda: What exacly is a job "prescription" what does that mean

I tire for the prescription writer.

gmyguy: cause of death without autopsy is fishy...thats why you do an autopsy. after the first autopsy, its like a crime scene, you cant get the same cause of death. sorry about your loss, but you need to finish medical school to understand the medical field

The problem is that you don't understand the word medical. please kindly do yourself a favour and know the real meaning of medical,Do I need to go to medical school to read the report of so called pathologists. well that I no go school does mean say if I see my papa picture I no go know say na my papa.

vinnyvinny: Please educate us. What is the job prescription of an optometrist and what is a call duty allowance.

Get a copy of the law establishing optometry inn the country, you can get it even online, also get a copy of the scheme of service of optometrists then you will see the work of an optometrist and not what you think their work should be.

mckay06:
U'll be educated if u study the MOH Organogram for d 3tiers of govt.

leave organogram, that is for paper we know the politics going on in MOH daily all aimed to kill other professions.yet not all is represented inn MOH

mckay06:
If Optometrists' call duty allowance was stopped in a particular state, then it is a state affair and they shud sort it. In my state and others, optometrists are 'pocketting' their call duty allowee

even vet own was stopped in the same state by med. drs

mckay06: [b]Federal Ministry of Health is a levelled playing pitch, [/b]every dept./unit has the ball and each has to play well inorder to achieve its objectives, the Resident Doctors are playing a good one by asking the FG y it shortchanged the Health sector, but all they could get in support from other units is antipathy.

big lie.Many departments are not represented in FMH.infact med.drs control here and use it to stunt others growth.there is no level playing field in ministries of health both state and federal at all.this is the real problem of our health system because drs control them,tell Nigerians the truth

mckay06: I really don't understand y Doctors should be called derogatory names just because they are following a laudable course that will better the nation.
Can u compare the working conditions of Doctors to that of Lawmakers who do nothing, but take home #29.5M every month or an Oil worker who earns in the region of #1.5M every month.
How much is a Doctor taking?
If u think he is overpaid, take a course in Medicine and u'll understand his plight.

law maker job is even bigger than Nigerian med dr because a single law made by them can change medicine and even the whole Nigeria,that does notimply that they should earn such big amount even when poverty in the land is high.can u visit okija shrine like them?can you wine and dine with assassins like them?i don't jealous them.you don't want to better the nation,you only think about how to better yourselves and stop others growth.how can you be looking for how to better the nation but use ur position to stop the call duty of optometrists in a state in south .are they not Nigerians?Thank God you are not God.

[quote author=klodike]
Dis dude sure has a problem with doctors. Anyway weda u like it or not a doctor would always b d head in a medical setting. With comments like dis, no wonder Naija is d way it is. Jst imagine dis dude as a lawmaker, all dr's head wuld b cut off. [/quote

I have problem with Nigerian med.drs not doctors.i don't have problem with doctors of optometry,vet drs,dentists,Doctors of pharmacy. med drs are not the head anywhere and that ur illusion will soon change when court interpret that ransome kuti law soon as I heard the case is in court now

Laalamed: Please can anyone show me a link of any country where pathologists are not statutory director of medical laboratories but only medical lab scientist?
Can anyone show me a link of any country where pharmacists would dispense drugs without prescription notes?
Can anyone tell me reasons why pharmacologist and pharmacy technician can not open pharmacies?are pharmacists not guilty of what they are accusing doctors of?
Can i know reason why med lab technicians are not allowed by med lab scientists to grow through recognized short course programme whereas these med lab tech do the same things as scientists and get diff salaries?
Can i know a country in world where radiographers do work of radiologist without later supervision?
Why med lab scientists are called medical technologists in south africa and usa, and in uk the name is biomedical science?
Is there any country in the world where clinical pharmacist or nursing practitioner prescribe drugs without supervision of consultant family physcians?
Why is nusing and midw council of nig is not certifying aux nurse as nursing assistant as being done in uk and usa through collaboration with medical directors of private and general hospitals?
Why is med lab scientists preventing graduates of biochemistry, physiology,anatomy and microbiology from working in med lab as scientific officers as in uk,usa even south africa?
Are pharmacists, nurses , med lab scientists not guilty of what they are accusing doctors of doing by not allowing other grows?
Candid reply,pls.

your post lack substance and argument.the rules are clear.if you are a technician you wana be a scientist you go to med lab school,can you tell me where drs run hospital if not in Nigeria,hospital administrators run hospitals in serious countries,in south Africa they do masters in medicine apart frm their residencies too,why hv u not introduced it in Nigeria,you don't want people to see medicine as a normal first degree course like others.my dear what drs do many nurses can do,so why cant nma do short courses for them and make them drs.in most countries they have clinical officers,they do all work the dr do and when drs try strike they work and the nation is okay.i think this should be introduced in Nigeria to help in our health system

tunesoft:
Its o obvious all u do is read the papers and fail to analyse things or interact with intelects in the area of expertise...why would a pharmacist want to start prescribing drugs..(Not done anywhere in the world)..buh na werrin dem one do for naija...why, to prove say dem dey...why would a radiographer say he wants to be a consultant...in wat...or nurse be a consultant..doin wat?...show me where its done anywhere...No1 is stopping any1 from progressing...I bet u won't allow the sso called consultant Nurse operate on u...this is very simple and clear..knowing their duties and boundaries....left to me, I wouldn't mind the pulling thru with all dbills sef.....cos it seems Nigerians only learn thru experience...all the best

a radiographer will be a consultant in radiography not radiology,a nurse will be a consultant in an aspect of nursing,so a vet dr. All your fight will be in vain because as you can see your trick is been exposed everyday and the world kw now.your world getting so narrow.what is your biz in the training of radiographer,optomertist,vet drs,nurse,medlab,etc if not for you to make them slaves,thank god u only succeed in showing u don't understand what real health is.

tunesoft:
Thank God u have an experience ursef..here u are yabbing the doctors...well I don't know where the autopsy was carried out...but I bet it with u that na what the doctor see hin go put...Nigerian doctors rack brain like computers looking for solutions..that's the level of what the training offers for now...Maybe if There had been proper things put in place, proabably they would have gotten the true cause of death...or he might not have died in the 1st instance...I will say...thank God it was ur grandpops nd not some1 younger...cos doctor go just write as usaul..."Using bla bla bla available at my disposal...the diagnosis is gbim..." I laff in german to ignorant Nigerians

can you for once accept blame for the failed health state of our country health system.you are the leader?abi? but will not take the blame for failed leadership.if the doctor no get equipment to do autopsy as u said why did they collect money for what they cant do?and disgraced themselves.Nobody is yabbing medical doctors,but we are telling them the truth,if you wNT RESPECT YOU MUST RESPECT OTHERS,IF U WANT TO GROW YOU MUST NOT TRY TO FIGHT OTHERS FROM GROWING,THAT IS THE BASIC TRUTH.

tunesoft:
Well I don't blame u...by the way, do u use a private or a public hospital...? Nd I certainly pray our loved ones don't fall into needing standard basic medical service. God help us all...

when my dad died in ,medical drs in government hospital where he died do not know what killed him. My snr bros an architect instructed I do autopsy on him, I did it in 2 different govt hospitals with so called consultant pathologists only for them to give me two different reports which was also different from what the so called medical dr wrote on his death certificate. Three different diagnosis for one man as cause of death.wow ! 9ja wonder! how will they learn when they are using their time to fight others from growing and forget that he who hold somebody on the floor is also on the floor

gmyguy: what has the world turned to, when a doctor has to argue about his relevance...you cant compare a doctor to anybody, save God. medicine is as old as man, and even before white medicine, doctors were in service. who gives two fs about pilots. were the herbalists not regarded as doctors then, did anybody bother about pilots then. Anyway, pilot needs a doctor and so do you, so doctors win

very childish post.

eaglechild:

Doctors who benefit from government funding are often required to sign a bond which mandates them to work for that institution where they are training for a given period if they complete their training successfully.
Doctors are the only healthcare professionals who have a given time to complete their specialist training or lose their appointments. In other words resident doctors are living on the edge and have no job security in the govt sector, your meal is dependent directly on passing exams, your passing exams is dependent on good training facilities and adequate funding. Good training facilities mean a better trained specialist who can better care for his patients.

very big lie.They are graded, you have regristrar, snr registrar, etc.if you pass you can move on with that.yes they sign bond like others that are allowed to even do post grad diploma,but they can ignore the bond and move on .you want only you to be trained but fight optometrists from doing internship in government hospitals,so you don't know that that internship will make them better Doctors of optometry? and patients will benefit from it yet you fight them, your NARD even kicked against their call duty allowance and use your position which ransome kuti erroneously gave to you to see that you stop the allowance but you fail again, dont you know that this action will affect health care negatively. Your people are currently fighting Pharmacists, trying to prevent them from having a post graduate college, you a medical doctor told pharmacists that they should only do masters and Ph.D and not fellowship that you will not allow that(lol),your stupied organization NMA even wrote communiqué in national daily saying that they will not allow others to be consultants and that it is only medical officers that can be consultants, what a way to show gross ignorance.Your NARD fought Radiographers from starting their Ph.D because you don't want them to answer doctor,but you failed ,don't you know that such training will make them better for the patients,yet you fought them and failed,your NARD fought pharmacist from doing their Pharm.D and you still failed, dont you know that this will help them to treat patients better yet you fought them.The fight between you and med lab science is legendary and was it not in Nigeria that a medical dr was made Director of Medical laboratory services in UCH,it failed because other health care workers said they will go on strike. In one state in south south an ophthalmologist was made the chairman of the state's oral health care even with so called consultants dentists around.I feel that Your training is deceiving you to believe you are the head.Head of what? yet when issues come you blame govt.did you ask how our health care was when Hospital administrators ran our hospitals.see what your people did in National health bill and think they will succeed. Thank God this is not military regime so if the bill is even passed in it bad way ,then court will render it useless, some bills have gone that way.you want to grow but don't want others to grow,you want to head, but don't want others to head. You call others support staff and call your self the head, you are ignorant. if only your head, eye or leg is growing without other part growing with it,you will turn to a monster,that is what we are seeing now in our health system and people been paid for going to school feel we should give them our common wealth hook line and sinker to train only themselves but not also others.

tunesoft: I believe pple shud start opening their eyes to see nd not blinded by the unboastful fact that doctors are the most paid in the health sector. B4 nko...who's's supposed to be the most paid...are they not the head of the team. Well, the fight isnot not just doctors by the way...its for the patients and the health sector as a whole....for God's sakes, if the residency trainingprogramme is well funded. OJB won't be flyin abroad for kidney transplant...the whole of Ogn state can't boast of a single MRI machine...this is basic care the pple reequire...

very childish post

[quote author=Soso990240]musa is d only threat in dat front..who u wan make e replace musa? U guyz sabi complain.[/quote
] you don't know youeself,musa missed the best chance and he scored the goal that forlan scoared,he worked the goal for uraguans .he is a big mugu