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airmark:
The passion at which she is attacking tonight is enough to indicate there's fire on the mountain.[size=14pt] It's not because he loves coogar so much[/size]. A third eye is needed to really analyse her sudden surge on this matter.

cc Seun.

This is what is currently happening. . . .

My suggestion that both parties are guilty = 1) I'm pro coogar 2) I'm ant Babe3 3) I love coogar 4) I hate Babe3 5) If I don't support Babe3, I'm a scammer 6) If I do support Babe3, I'm correct 7) I have to support someone.


All I'm asking you to do is to take this to court and show us proof that the case is in the court. Let nlers know that they're safe online.

cc seun.

Gamesmart:
[size=14pt]I have seen many of them. [/size] As Ibime said, we went to school with them. It does not turn out well as they have no good Plan B.

Jay Z is also very articulate but he has no degree. I am not saying coogar does not have a degree, I am just saying articulation is not necessarily a result of a solid educational background. The things that have been said about him through the grapevine was confirmed by this case. He uses girls to support himself. That tells me he does not have a means of income for a very long time. So very unlikely he is highly skilled or an IT contractor.

How many of them did you report?

Have you ever tried to blow a whistle on anyone? Seeing them and watching them walk away is enabling a criminal. You're just as guilty.

EfemenaXY:
The bolded is an assumption on your part. May I ask what it's based on?

I've read a couple of his posts and he does come across as an extremely articulate person with very good penmanship skills. Certainly above what your average Nairalander churns out. That to me, can only be from having a solid educational background.

They will soon tell you that you're anti/pro someone in a moment.

There are certain questions/suggestions we're not supposed to make.

Anyone else?

Gamesmart:
It seems Olaone1 is right. [size=15pt]You have an anti-BABE3 agenda[/size].

I noted you did not include 'If you're really guilty and you think she's not an accomplice'.

[size=14pt]What did BABE3 do to you?[/size] You were one of the ones she verbally attacked when the going was good?

cc Seun.

It has come down to this.

airmark:


Many of these guys think we are foolish and cant see the hand writing on the wall. Imagine her calling me son? In real life she will be on her knees greeting me if we meet. I wont be surprised if she deactivates soon. [size=15pt]Based on her posts, she is connected to coogar. [/size]

I will mark this down.

cc Seun. Anyone that ask for justice is connected to coogar. See your mods, see your website.

Toby77:
ok you can also report annymously....help us do that

https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

Thanks.

To coogar, I know you won't see this

1. If you're really guilty and you think she's an accomplice, go to the court and report both of you. If you're really guilty, you're already going down son. Trust no one but yourself. Do your time like a responsible man you try to claim, if you're really guilty.

2. If you're being blackmailed, as it seems, do not pay the money because you will still be ousted to the court. Payment will not guarantee your freedom. Jejely walk to a police station and report yourself. After you pay, I believe they will still report you. After seeing what I've seen on this thread, these are NOT the people to trust. Trust the law and do the right thing. Turn yourself in.

Do the Crime. Pay with time. Be a man and go report yourself if you're guilty.

[size=14pt]Should I see these IDs on NL without Seun/NL Mods presenting court ruling that coogar/babe3 are innocent in the eyes of the law, I will know that NL supports fraudulent activities.

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Toby77:
The alleged crime happened in the UK. Jurisdiction is UK. Nairaland is registered in Nigeria. Don't blame Seun, I don't know what you want him to do. [size=15pt]You are currently in the UK[/size].....take and help us

https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

These are the same people presiding over this case.

kramfonos:
[color=royalblue] You the afore-posted even after the evidence had been posted on the first page of this thread.


Even when you chose to accept a crime had been committed, your arguments have centered around Babe3 (who is the victim) also going to jail. You clearly opined that she's an INTENTIONAL accomplice. Ironic how your sense of justice equals a VICTIM going to jail with a criminal.

As long as the victim also goes to jail, you'll be fine.


It seems you've already passed your judgement on her - something you accused us of doing to the confirmed criminal. Another irony.

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They both sound guilty. Don't spin me story.

Have a great day Judge Martins.

Gamesmart:
Have his day in court to achieve what?

You think the complainant would be able to recoup her money if that happens? This is the best thing for the complainant at the moment.

He is going to refund it. If it turns to any case, he would disappear and the police would not prioritise chasing him but only have his name on warrant to be arrested if he ever crosses their part. She would not have her school fees.

Have a blessed day, Judge Judy.

NLERS: [size=14pt]If you haven't done so, please change your email from personal to non-personal, check your bank account information, check your credit history and change your passwords. [/size]

A word is enough for the wise. This website is shady as fcccuk.

I leave una with that message!

cc Seun

Gamesmart:
Liquidising what?
You really don't understand guys like this. She said he has been living illegally in the country since his visa expired in 2011. Do you think it would be easy for him to get a job? He is depending on other people's credit card and girls to live day by day. This is the same thing we have been hearing about Sauron well before this. He has no money.
Once in that lifestyle, they become what is known as NINJAs.
N o IN come, J ob or A ssets.
What are you liquidising? You believe he flew to Nigeria to do BVN and he is an IT contractor with a specialist accountant called Arif?

Then let him have his day in court. Show us THAT proof too, or is there a gag order on it?

How hard is it to proof that you guys have complaint to the right officials?

This is like the 5th scam case in the past 6 years and we no hear the court cases. Kontinu o!

IlekeHD:
So many things I don't understand about this event. So many things we're not meant to understand. Honestly, I'd have called the police on both parties. In the eyes of the law, intentional ignorance to credit card fraud is not an excuse. NL is not a judicial system. This case should have been brought to nl AFTER legal processes have been filed and court decisions have been made. It's easy to unjustly ruin a mans reputation, it's impossible to build it back up. Should officials get a hang of this fraud allegations from visiting NL threads, nothing can stop both parties from being prosecuted. All it takes is for one nler to blow the horn. If coogar is indeed guilty of fraud, nl shouldn't be protecting him [by agreeing to not take the case to court if he pays]. That's protecting a criminal. Everyone involved will be prosecuted. People with the evidence should do the right thing and take this to an actual court.

My analysis: NL is protecting criminal[s]. Do not register on NL with your [personal] email account.

Take it or leave it, but do not try to patronize me. I no be pikin. I know how the law works and it's quite obvious that a lot of shady fraudulent activities are going on on this site.

Olaone1:
Ileke, this drama is unnecessary

Ok. I don hear.

cc Seun.

freakcin:
IlekeHD, you've been given link to report this case in at least 3 posts on this page alone. What really is your problem?
Is it cougar who hurt you or babe3? Are you just bored tonight?

1. I don't have their names/or information.

2. NL mods do. Since they said the case is in court, how hard would it be to post that evidence? Show us a photocopy of the official complaint. Let nlers know that NL is actually reporting these scam cases. After una don collabo and share money behind closed doors, another scammer go pop up. Una go come shout on NL again. Same ish. How is NL protecting its members?

Gamesmart:
Made him pay with what money?

And while in prison?

Ever heard of liquidation? Wasn't the dude bragging about his lifestyle? So I'm sure he has something worth selling. No?

airmark:
Below are screen grabs of our conversation and how you stylishly backed out only to come tonight as if you had beef with babe3 and want her to remain in debt. This is my last response to you. I am disappointed in what i have been reading from you tonight. It means nothing though, we have seen worse .

So where in that post or my current post did I ask you not to call coogar a scammer?

I'm telling you to take the alleged scammer to court so that the law can decide. I'm very uncomfortable with the fact that NL mods are collabing online with alleged fraudsters...proudly telling us that he's begging......saying the case is over.

Seun, is this what NL has been reduced to? How many of these cases we don hear and how many court cases we don read about?

kramfonos:
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Two days ago you opined you don't want to get involved. Now it's the only thing that interests you.
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[color=royalblue] Also, two days ago, you were defending the accused.

Have problems with consistency, aren't you?

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I waited because you guys promised to post evidence i.e court cases, complaint letters, etc. Now you're telling us that you collabed with a fraudster online and he's begging. Begging for what?

Toby77:
madam, direct your energetic passion to the right quarters. You can also help rid our society of bad elememts.

Here again is the link. You can help make it happen

https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

Now you don't want my passion and energy? Had I taken side, you'd have greeted me with egusi/iyan and a bottle of stout. C'mon now.

Toby77:
Here again is the link
https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

Maybe you should start caring. Maybe your nonchalant attitude is the reason why NL continues to harbor scammers.

How many of these cases have really gone to court?

Una no serious. Stop trying to convince NLers, take the mess to court. Both parties should answer to the right officials.

Gamesmart:
[size=15pt]The $4K is for the school fees sent over to coogar in cash for return of card payments[/size]. Unfortunately, Arif did not supply any card that worked on that occasion or there was a chargeback or something like that.

That is why coogar is happy to quickly offer to pay it back, not some blackmail money.

Were the bolded true, a legal court would have made him pay. Why collab with a scam artist offline?

airmark:
Some people have not slept since coogar accepted to pay. Drama keeps unfolding.

Why is he paying her if he's guilty?

Wouldn't the court have established her innocence and made him pay her anyways?

What is he "begging" for offline? Is he begging for the case against him to be discharged? And what is the "agreement"? Why should there be an agreement offline when the case is in court?

These are the important questions no one is asking.

1) They both should answer to the right officials 2) After taking the case to court , as una claim, why talk to him offline? 3) Are you guys making shady agreement with a potential scammer? 4) What is NL doing to protect its members? [No no, dude, please don't mention this funny and nonsensical drama una call "outsing him out"].

Should anything blow over, three people will be investigated. 1) Coogar 2) Babe 3) Everyone else involved.

airmark:
I was referring to [size=14pt]your post in which you quoted me and trying to stop us from calling coogar, a scammer,[/size] despite having evidence here and serving us avalanche of poor defences here and there. Someone can only try to stop coogar from paying babe3 by tagging it blackmail money if he/she also shared in his loot and now the fraudster is disturbing to return the illegal cash in order to pay up his debt. Sincerely, your strong view now, is suspicious, to say the least. Coogar will do the needful, i trust him he will ignore you.

Where is that post?

Quote me.

Make I enlarge the font because I know una kuku wan run me off this thread

Toby77:
He would be banned here. As for making it offline I could care less but why don't you report it yourself offline since you seem more interested in that course of action. I already provided the links and a guy said he already lodged a complaint. Do your own if you ain't satisfied, nothing is stopping you.

He would be banned here. Wowww okay good, that's it. Thank you for banning him here. I for don think he'd still be around scamming others. Now that he's going to be banned here, you lots have saved the day. Ope o! Chineke indima o! Jesu o seun o!

You lots must think NLers are dumb.

Let me guess we will never see the complaint and this case will be swept under the rugs after payments. NLs una sha beware

Toby77:
Coogar is an online personality that onlly exists on nairaland. it is an online persona. The moniker has been tried here and I could care less what happens to the real life character behind the moniker. Thanks and you can also report it also. Nobody is stopping you

Online personality...... yet you know his name/address. Make it offline courtcase. Abi una get jail for NL?

Should USA/UK get a hold of this, this is going to go beyond police.

It sounds like this is a federal/international crime. This no be police, sounds like FBI/Homeland Security ish.

This is not a small issue. How can someone from UK/Finnland be using an American's identity to steal money and una think na play play?

Toby77:
there are two individuals. Don't get it twisted. Coogar and Gbenga. Coogar has been duly tried here and found guilty. That attracts permanent ban. I frankly don't care what happens to Gbenga but if you are so eager to pass it on to the right authorities you can follow this thread....
https://www.nairaland.com/2747959/nairaland-fraudster-exposed-pt-2

I don't know what you are going on about.

"Here" is not a legal court. Take them both to the right officials. Thanks.

airmark:
That's why i will deactivate my account if i still find the fraudulent moniker, coogar, posting on this forum by January 1, 2016. I have been one of the people who even wanted coogar to be prosecuted. You initially asked us not to call coogar a scammer in your initial post, we know the ploy.

So many things I don't understand about this event. So many things we're not meant to understand. Honestly, I'd have called the police on both parties. In the eyes of the law, intentional ignorance to credit card fraud is not an excuse. NL is not a judicial system. This case should have been brought to nl AFTER legal processes have been filed and court decisions have been made. It's easy to unjustly ruin a mans reputation, it's impossible to build it back up. Should officials get a hang of this fraud allegations from visiting NL threads, nothing can stop both parties from being prosecuted. All it takes is for one nler to blow the horn. If coogar is indeed guilty of fraud, nl shouldn't be protecting him [by agreeing to not take the case to court if he pays]. That's protecting a criminal. Everyone involved will be prosecuted. People with the evidence should do the right thing and take this to an actual court.

My analysis: NL is protecting criminal[s]. Do not register on NL with your [personal] email account.

I didn't stutter. This was my initial post. Whichever part you couldn't comprehend, point it out.

BoboYekini:
IlekeHD,
Coogar himself has asked to be reported to the authorities and have a case, if any, brought against him. Now whether that has been done or not, let's leave that to the principal actors. But understand that there is a guy code. Fùck ups are best treated in-house.

So why was this thread and so many others necessary? It's not.

The case should have been left for the court to decide. The same court that decides his guilt would have enforced him to pay back babe3 [if indeed she is being owed].

NLers, make una think:

1. There have been several scam cases on NL, how many of these cases have gone to the court?

2. Why is this case the same? What's paying got to do with not taking the case to court?


Last night, I had to carefully go through my credit report to make sure I haven't been scammed. It's very easy to collect data about someone [from their post history] and to scam them.

Check your credit history and make sure you haven't been scammed o. Check your bank statements.

3. Someone allegedly mentioned that they used cards from different countries, and another claimed to be ignorant after spending 3 years with him. Does this sound logical to anyone?

My people make una ask Seun to take this case to court.

cc Seun, Mukina2, lalasticala and other level headed mods out there.

airmark:
Come out in your colour as a scammer's backer and stop addressing me as son. Your husband may be in secondary school when i graduated. Coogar must pay his victim. Thank you

Take the case to the court. Period. Let them decide.


[size=14pt]At any NLer in London who has access to the right officials, please do report this case and use this thread and many others as evidence. If it gets that bad, I may contact some officials too.
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NL was not created to provide protection for thieves/occults/cabals etc.

airmark:
And you think coogar as we all know him, would agree to pay blackmail money? The money is not a blackmail money as you wrongly believed, it's either you have missed some info while you were busy chatting with some of your old folks on this thread.

Look son, do not patronize me. I know you think you've got enough people on your side to mock coogar. Be content with that number.

Take the case [with both coogar/babe3] to the court is all I'm saying. No need for unnecessary grammar. Let the court decide who is guilty and/or innocent.

E se. Thank you.