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CabbieAC:
Akata means panther

Chai you can lie!!

CabbieAC:
Is this not the same thing I was saying when quimicababes suggested we start sending money back home for people to carry out projects

Omo naija! mmtchew

Me sef support her then. Not knowing.

quimicababes:
translate what she said please lol

I said it's better not to trust anyone with money on NL. Remember how we discussed sending money to Nigeria to develop our land? With the ongoing lunacy on NL, it's best to stay away from such. It's better to keep our discussion online until we can ensure that all of us are reputable/trustable.

TV01:
In the UK we have due process, we have the rule of law. If there was any evidence implicating the accused, it should have been handed to the authorities and the law should have been allowed to run it’s course.

Instead, a kangaroo court – with a panel of at best, shady characters - was convened and the accused was summarily arraigned before it - "for our viewing pleasure".

Point 1 –if indeed any of the allegations are true and there is evidence to prove it, evidence which you have seen or handled, you are all now accomplices to a crime.

Your court has zero jurisdiction and even less credibility. The moniker is not even banned from NL? And a purported hardened criminal is still free to scour for prey and make more innocents victims of his nefarious activities – on and offline

Point 2 – what of all the other victims whose cards and credit were compromised, who gets justice for them?

This was never motivated by a desire for justice – that much is clear. Indeed, it was not even in the least bit transparent. Cutting deals off-line and then returning here to gloat about your great triumph. Why was R321 “expecting cougar to post his mugshot”? Because it is evident that in your secret talks the accused threatened to do so - and probably other dirt.

All the bloviate about hating crime, detesting fraudsters and the like was just that, a crock. This was about puny men being spun because they wanted a day of glory, or a total ruse to let a criminal off the hook. What a pathetic shame; on the pack of you, and on NL, and your country.
Like I said, men with fannies. If you like quote me and get yours.

I was going to leave this unposted as I didn’t want to be sullied by the corruption so evident here, but the sheer class of IlekeHD and the way you have cowardly tried to smear her means I am compelled to speak out. Airmark ko, Skidmark ni.

IlekeHD, please, how would you like to proceed? And is there anybody else not cowed by these losers and willing to demonstrate that there is at least a seed of goodness in Nigerians?


TV

I misquoted you.

Thank you!

They attempted to smear my name but thunder fire them! Ko possible! Let them keep at it. I promise you, next year it's going to be the same people and the same class act. Just be careful, my brother. The wolves are coming to hunt.

CrazyMan:
He made a very good point...yes there's need to go that far.

Ileke-idi made a reasonable suggestion. If babe3 feels she has been scammed, and doesn't want other girls to fall victim, it would be wise for her to report the case to the appropriate authorities.

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I really don't get the purpose of this thread I've been following for days now. According to the victim (babe3's) posts, she was duped of her tuition fees by coogar, and she wants justice as well as warn Nairaland girls who have a soft spot for him about his fraudulent activities.

It was also stated that you have enough evidence to put the accused behind bars for a long time.

So what's with the delay and unnecessary drama?

[size=15pt]If he is what you say he is (a credit card thief and a scammer), and you don't want other girls to fall victim of his nefarious activities, kindly report the case to the appropriate authorities.
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Stop telling us how you've compiled a trailer load of evidence and nothing to show for it.

Those working with you (jaybee3 and co) should see to that.

I've been on Nairaland for over 9years and I'm tired of seeing this kind of story over and over again.

Someone gets duped, he/she cries out, Nairalanders troop out in mass to sympathize with the victim, some take the victims side, some take the accused side. Some people get famous on the thread as a result of their writing skills. At the end of the day, the thread having outlived its purposed gets abandoned, the victim is left to carry her his/her cross alone.

My advice to you (babe3) is that if you truly want justice like you stated, then do it the right way.

Get a lawyer, sue him for whatever charges you have compiled and tell us the Jury's verdict.



My dear he's not Sauron just leave him. This doesn't even need to be debated upon. Sauron was here in Nigeria claiming to be in the uk while his lover (user name withheld) was overseas. Although there are much similarities between both cases (Sauron and Coogar) but its definitely not him.

Gbam!

elampiro:
I see some flaws in your writing but I will only respond to only the bold part above.

The authority cannot force him to pay back to Babe3.

If Babe3 wants her money though a judicial process, she can sue in civil court. But this case cannot be treated as a civil case once it gets reported to let's say EFCC (in Nigeria) or even the police. It's a criminal case. In criminal case, it's not about refund or payback but about punishment. Jail term and may be forfeiting of assets.

Once reported, the case gets investigated by the authorities. An interrogating officer is put on the case. This idea that they only go there to report and show the evidence they got makes me to laugh. The police will extract the evidence themselves, all possible evidence even the ones you are hiding from them. I can bet you that even messages already deleted will be recovered by the police forensic unit. This is not a traffic offense where they book someone and it's just a light case.

There was a man who was invited to EFCC for a case, when he returned after about a week, he told us in the office then in 2007 that EFCC took him to one room where they have this reader. They shower him his IP of the devices he was using and the previous ones he had used, they showed him all his text messages even the ones already deleted years before. They checked and checked and even scrutinized his online posts. Eventually they freed him. If they had this in Nigeria in 2007, imagine what they had now, especially in Europe and America.

During investigation, the police can decide to also take Babe3 into detection. They might consider bail for them, but in America I think they hardly grant bail for CC fraud. Or they make it very hard to meet the ball terms.

At the end the police will charge the case to court after gathering statements, evidences and possible witnesses who can attest they were also victims. The Police decides who to charge and what to charge. How many counts against each accused. They can say they find no case against Babe3 and that's the end. Her case can become light if she is the one reporting to Police instead of the police bursting them.

[size=15pt]The things Police will be looking at whether to change Babe3 or not are some of the arguments posted here. Was she trying to recover her school fees from Coogar? Her attempt to use credit cards, did it span across several months? Did she attempt to use credit cards before the school fees Saha? Was she used? Did she also fall victim of scam? Or she willingly participated in crime? The court will again decide whether to grant bail, the conditions or whether to detain the accused in prison as the trial goes on.
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Let's not forget too, there is a certain Arif who will also be arrested and the information and evidences extracted from him will go along way.

After the charge is prepared the case is handed over to a prosecutor who is experienced, and possibly a lawyer in the police force. He presents the case to the magistrate, he calls his witnesses if any and provides his evidence after ensuring they are qualified to be admitted. The police will have to provide one of the victims/owners of the credit cards for the case to really be weighty.

The accused will have a chance to defend themselves eventually. But court is not a place you talk like it's a market.

One thing about cases is that if you are innocent you have nothing to fear. Although innocent people still go to jail. At the end, among those charged, the magistrates decides who goes home and who doesn't return home and how long he's going to stay away from the comfort of his home.

It's not a matter of "you pay me my money" once it's reported to authorities. I do not wish for anyone to go spend dozen of years in jail, I would rather the person change. I know it's painful for those credit cards owners who lost funds. Imagine someone saving money for years from handwork and salary, then he goes to sleep and overnight his years of savings from handwork is wiped out.

Thank you for expanding what I've been trying to say in a concise and brilliant manner.

NL needs to take all these mess to court instead of playing rabble rouser on NL. Many will not understand how much of deep shit both coogar/babe3 are in and how grave credit card scam is.

I'll leave the rest of the analysis to the reasonable analysts.

Another thread on me

CabbieAC:
Lmao at the emboldened you no well

Speaking of the last part,well... it depends on what you came here for and your intentions.Most times, you can identify a fool by just going through his comments

It's simple and there's nothing to worry about.The rapbattle/family/romance and all those silly sections are where those things are rampant because there are too many !dd!iots there. .Na only few people get sense for that side

Honestly, I came here thinking we can do something to change Yorubaland for the better. Is that so much to ask? Is it?

Ti awon eyan n ba n se ole kakiri, bawo la se le trust awon to wa nile pelu iyanju [effort] wa?

O su mi serious. Nigba ti mo ka tiredi yen, se ni mo fe be sukun. So pathetic.

Lordave:
Just being cautious.

Nkita nile n'ara nsi, mana nke ahuru nsi n'onu ya ka à n'akpo ori nsi.

Look at what religion has done to some people, Islam has successfully made itself a gigantic object of fright and ridicule.

Be honest. Any type of religion is useless.

CabbieAC:
Okay oooo kontinew Mrs Life experience

Se le e l'agidi ni

If we dey tell una sumchin, una no dey hear word until reality jam una like okada

Baba agba, mo mo pe nkan ti awon arugbo [you] ba n wo nijoko, awa omo de a ko le ri ti a ba duro.

Mo ti gbo. Matter yen ko interest mi mo, sugbon mo fe so nnkan to wa lokan mi ni. Mo de ti so tan.

Sugbon bi gbogbo nkan se n lo lori site me, o make me feel hopeless wipe ko si bi a se le da ile Yoruba pada si ona rire. At one point, I felt like this thread is useless because people will never change and its hard to trust anyone, yo.

CabbieAC:
Yeah fila gbigbe was the best option .Olorun ma je e ko rayin si waala

That kain thing pesin no dey chuk mouth especially if its none of your business.

As per the discussion, you for don try feel among.I'm not interested in certain things but I dey always use style

They call it "Iko"

Lol people keep telling me this. Abeg, e je ki enu so nkan to fe so.

Have you watched that Yoruba movie where this girl no get filter......until it got her kidnapped. I'll find it for you

But I don't wanna feel amongst in sports.

Baba Agba, can you continue with tourism now?

CabbieAC:
Iya Agba se ti gbe iborun tan

I gave una space to discuss sport nah. Abi you want me to be sleeping on this thread?

E wo gbogbo won. Awon ole. See all of them.

Una kontinu. Keep aiding criminals on NL. E ro pe awa o moh?

May Sango thunderfire the next ediot that quotes me with nonsense. Between coogar/babe3/nl mods on this thread, I wan know who be innocent. Trying to bully with nonsense. Una day in court dey wait.

Goodnight. Odaaro.

airmark:
You deduced wrongly, not surprised though.

If you can post other evidence, why can't you and the others post the evidence that the case has been taken the court?

I say una well done. Kontinu. No be today we know scammers plenty for both downstairs and upstairs.

E fe fi wa jeun! Oduduwa o ni je!

raumdeuter:
Airmark, gamesmart, toby77. I think I see the sense in some of the things IlekeHD is saying that the court would be the best place to resolve this

Why. The current plan is that coogar pays Babe and the case dies.

[size=16pt]In the course of these exposition we have found out that while some credit card transactions were charged back, Some went through into buying Chanel shades, Louis Vuiton purses, Zara, expensive materials, That means there is a Mr John Doe somewhere in USA whose credit has been ruined or whose retirement account has been cleaned out
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If we are really interested in justice for all parties involved, then Who gets justice for that Mr John Doe? or should he take the loss because he isnt on NL and has no NL mediator to collect his own stolen money?

Exactly! It doesn't matter who paid for the LV bags or who was rocking it, the court needs to be involved!

You brought the heat on coogar. You brought the heat on Babe3.

Now it's time to bring the heat on this so called moderators.

Make una listen well. You can go through my email, gather information from my posts, connive behind closed doors, but should I get scammed on this site, I will drag NL to places it never thought it would go.

cc Seun.

So you better start an incorruptible legal team or something. The ones wey dey dance about this thread abusing me like say na me born dem, are enabling scammers [and are probably scammers themselves].

Gamesmart:
[size=14pt]All these are in Court.
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Even in court, Gaddafi could have been found not guilty for all crimes. That does not mean we all don't know what type of person he is.

Show us that proof.

Go to the court and ask for a record.

Nairalanders .....


1) Ask the mods to provide evidence that this case has been filed with the right officials.

This is not the first scamming case on NL....... this scamming ish happens a lot on NL, yet it gets swept under the carpet. Why is that?

2) They want us to believe that one is guilty and the other is innocent. Who decides? The court. So ask them to take this case to the court!

Every year, the same guruguru scamming, the same people on the case....and una never wonder?

You think we're all dumb?

airmark:
Open another thread on this and tag me and other people, then we will rub minds together so that we will find lasting solution to it as it bothers you. As regards this case coogar paying babe3 back her tuition fee should n't hurt you. He wont collect the money from you to pay.

You're a moderator, let the court decide this case.

I doubt you've reported this as you claim. Another alleged scammer on the run. From what I can deduced, you guys had the information on coogar long before November, yet you let him walk around the site unscatthed. Until things fell out with his doubleganger, you guys did nothing. Yet you want us to believe that you're protecting NL from scammers?

Okay. Kontinu!

kramfonos:
[color=royalblue] Aren't you the same troll in the Politics Section who's infamous for instigating tribal e-wars even on every thread even when the thread has no tribal leaning?
Now you are here to divide. You cause controversies everywhere leaving confusion in your wake. Your antics are basically to raise doubts. More like seeking a reprieve for the accused. Discerning minds know your mission already.
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Yes, I'm a confirmed tribalist. I represent the Yoruba interest over anything. I seek for the development of Yoruba interest and autonomy over the SW region.

It's not punishable.

Credit card scamming / aiding a criminals is punishable. That's what needs to be reported in a judicial setting. NL is not a court. Report both suspects and let the court determine their guilt/innocent.

My people make una beware o

If you're scammed on NL. You're on your own.

No mods or admin will protect you. Forget all the "outsting" and worry about the "back door guruguru collabo of money gathering". Protect yourself.

Only the mods can determine who is innocent/guilty as if they're God. Don't report your crime to NL, go offline and find a police station.

airmark:

Someone who initially scolded us that we have judged coogar , now saying we are protecting the fraudster. What a night !!!

How many fraud cases on NL in the past 6 years? Every year the same ish...... yet none of them have been taken to court.

Why is that? How do these people obtain information? By going through our emails, by collecting data on us [on what we post]?

What are you guys doing to protect US from fraudsters/ alleged fraudsters? You come on NL to "oust" then, yet you don't report them. Of what essence is that? Are you a lawyer/judge/jury? Is there a jail center on NL?

NL has turned to the scammers hotspot. I doubt NL some mods aren't in on it.

airmark:
That's a red flag there. With time you will tell us what you know about coogar . [size=17pt]An innocent person[/size] would n't have seen that sentence as bully. Holes keep showing in this convo.

Is it NL that gets to determine who is guilty/innocent or a LEGAL court?

If one believes he/she is innocent, then they shouldn't fear going to the court to settle this issue.

Why is everyone fretting because I asked una to take this to court. You guys said you have, so why not post that evidence too?

You see, I've been planning to leave, but you guys keep sending ANT soldiers my way to give me inconsistent information.

1. You can't bully me to hush.

2. If my questions/suggestions causes fear in BOTH camps, please ignore my posts and I'll run along. But attempting to bully me into submission won't yield you any result.

Stop protecting fraudsters on NL. Gbam!

Gamesmart:
OK, go to Birmingham Police Station and report a coogar who is on Nairaland that you heard pays Arif to provide card he tries to see if this works.

Why can't NL mods [who have all the information/real names/addresses/etc] go to the police and report? Surely a large forum like this has some weight.

If they have already done so, why is it so hard to post the evidence on nl?

airmark:
Alailojuti ni e. Seun can't be fooled. I am repeating it umpteenth time,[size=15pt] if your coogar still operates with that moniker,[/size] he used to defraud people here by January 1, 2016, i will deactivate my account on this forum. I know your antics and so all other sensible members reading tonight. It's obvious what you are trying to do. I am a mod and will expose a scammer when caught. You aint smart at all.

He has turned to my coogar because I asked you guys to take both coogar/babe3 to the proper court?

My people, see systematic bullying? Is it me that you want to bully? Dem never born you well.

cc Seun. Why are your mods protecting credit card fraudsters on NL?

[size=14pt]Dem say make I kuku go die o.

Chaiiiiiiiii!!!!!

airmark, e don reach that level?

may oduduwa protect me o. [/size]

Gamesmart:
Go to court and report what? "I know someone that scams others, I don't know his victims or the details of the scam or where he is; I just heard about it"?

Yes. People do that all the time.

You said you see them a lot. Even if it's a "rumour", police officers will investigate.

airmark:
She cant leave now, unless coogar is freed from paying the money he defrauded babe3. Her point is that coogar must not pay. It seems if coogar pays,[size=17pt] may be ilekeHD will die,[/size] the way she is ranting right here is thrilling. I will always fight to ensure a scammer goes down, especially those showing no remorse after being caught.

Lol does this sound like a NL moderator?

Oya kuku come and kill me. I should go and die because I want both babe3/coogar to report to the court so that the court can determine who is innocent and/or guilty?

cc Seun. Your NL mods want to kill me o.

dyydxx:
obviously you don't know Coogar or his antics but I would let you in on something. All the genuine info about Coogar and his 'black sheep' antics actually came from his own mother in Lagos. She was the one that exposed all the truths known about him. How he went to OAU and not the Manchester University that he claims, how he went to the UK because he couldn't secure a job after school on a 6 months visiting visa yet he claims he has a red passport. You can see the lies. The mom sef is tired and has been begging him to come home but Coogar is set on the path of destruction. He would never listen and amend his ways and he is far too gone in now. His parents are aware of his antics they do get reports frrom time to time and are fed up.

So EFE, You are the one on assumptions, these are the facts

Great. So you guys had all these information all these while and you didn't go to the court? You knowingly let scammers walk about NL defrauding people?

Sport discussion still going on? I'm out.

Toby77

where is that link again?

kramfonos:

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[color=royalblue] Exactly! You just want her in jail too!

You've bid everyone goodnight four times already and you've been asked to take your leave. Now [/color]
'STFU' and do as you're 'told'!

[color=royalblue] Oops! That rung a bell, didn't it? I bet you're used to it already.



Don't victimize a victim.
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If she's guilty, of course I'd want her in jail. No criminal should be protected. No one is above the law.

If both parties are guilty, they deserve to pay the time.

Why are you getting upset because I'm asking the law to decide who is innocent/guilty? Shouldn't the evidence that you have, as you claimed, suggest that coogar is the only scammer? There should be satisfaction in that.

If we truly have scammers on NL, they need to be put away. Period.

Let the law decide who is innocent [victim] and who is guilty [criminal].