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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:17pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
How can your 35-year-old idol play 99% of his career in Ligue 1 and scored just 14 free-kicks?

grin cheesy
14 FKs scored from how many FK shots?

100? 200? 30000? 5 million?

Your theory fall on its face. We don’t know how good or poor 14 FKs are until we know the total number of direct FKs taken.

This is why your point is illogical.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Ok, they don't play free-kicks in France. Lol

Your amala-logic won't work, with all available stats covering their career, Eriksen is the better free-kick taker.

30-year-old Eriksen scored 20.

35-year-old Payet scored 16.
They play FKs in France but we don’t know the ratio of how many direct FK shots to how many direct FK scored. We are talking about their FK accuracy not the longevity of their careers.

In statistics, you need to be accurate. You just don’t throw numbers together. I have presented an empirical evidence that shows Eriksen took 46 FK shots and scored only 2 goals from it in the PL while Payet was in England.

The number of appearances or number of minutes do not predict the number of direct FK shots taken. Age does not also accurately determine the number of direct FK shots taken.

You have to be specific instead of throwing every shït in the air and hoping one would stick. If you have the accurate number of direct FKs taken by both Eriksen and Payet throughout their careers, then we can explore that option.

For now…..Payet >>>>>> Eriksen.
PhonesRe: iOS 15: Share Your Experience After the Update by Illimitable: 5:56pm On Sep 21, 2022
Auskyd:
5H SOT is what you are happy about? Lol bro.
What are you talking about?

I had it on for only 5 hours yesterday cos I got it very late in the evening last night. The battery on 14PM is actually one of the best around.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:50pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Ok, so show us their career statistics grin grin grin

Who scored more free-kicks?

Who played more games?

Who played against better team's/GKs?

grin
We don’t care about career statistics.

Your narrative started with Payet always played in Ligue 1(farmer’s league) barring 18 months in the toughest league in Europe.

While he was in the PL, he scored more from direct FK goals from fewer shots than Eriksen. There’s nothing more to add since we have been able to establish that.

Someone said the best way to compare the two is the actual number of free kicks they had taken when they were together in the same league and I agree with that theory.

It’s illogical to look at career stats when we don’t know how many FK shots were taken in those years by each player. We know the stats in the PL and those stats say Payet is more accurate at scoring from direct FKs than Eriksen.

QED!!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:46pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno played PK while CR7 was on the field AND CR7 did same while Bruno was on the field.

Messi allowed Suarez, Neymar and even Sanches take some freekick.

In summary, it was shared with other freekick expert not just anybody.




Kane, Modric, Bale etc all played and scored Freekick at Tottenham. He shared it with them.



AGE
======
Payet 35
Eriksen 30


Club Games
===========
Payet 569
Eriksen 399

Game-winning freekick
===================
Payet 3
Eriksen 5


Take your L in peace cheesy cheesy
Now it has become a game winning free kick? cheesy grin

How can your idol take 22 different direct free kicks in a 16/17 season and scored 0 goals? The annoying thing is you tried to blame it on sharing.

What has sharing gotta do with 0/22 hit rate in 16/17? cheesy
PhonesRe: iOS 15: Share Your Experience After the Update by Illimitable: 5:12pm On Sep 21, 2022
Auskyd:
Apple go cash out for your head lol
iPhone 14 Pro Max is too good.

Apple can have all my money. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 5:06pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain cheesy

Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games.

Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD.
Older
Healthier
Farmers
No competition
More games.

None of these disproves why Eriksen scored way less from direct free kicks than Payet when both were in the PL.

Payet spent only 18 months in the PL and scored way more against PL opponents. He went back to France in the second half of 16/17 and still didn’t miss a step.

I so much love statistics. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:55pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
Bruno is one of the best PK taker in the world but he shares the duties with CR7....oya explain cheesy

Payet is older, healthier, played 97% of his career against farmers, had no competition, and played more games.

Eriksen is the better free kick taker. EOD.
Ronaldo is better than Bruno and Cristiano is the better taker. In the two games Bruno got the ball, the manager(Ten Hag) wanted it so to help Bruno’s poor form as at then.

Your cognitive dissonance is what is being brought to question here. After lying for 3 days that Eriksen shared his free kick duties with 40 different players, statistics have actually revealed he took more direct FK shots than Payet but scored way less than Payet. cheesy grin

In 15/16 & 16/17, Eriksen scored 2 miserable direct FKs from 46 direct FK shots in the PL. Payet scored 3 direct FKs from 34 direct FK in the PL.

You are about the only football fan who thinks 2/46 is a higher rate and a higher accuracy than 3/34.

Choke who with stats? cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:30pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
You used 3+ days to come up with these points that are weaker than a penis that just ejaculated. grin

30 year old Eriksen has 20 Freekicks goals playing in the best leagues alongside great set pieces takers while 35 year old Payet played 98% of his football in farmers league as the only set piece taker for his clubs.


Eriksen >>>>>> Payet
Like I don’t have things to do outside this godforsaken place?

You have been parroting this lie that Eriksen shared free kicks with other players but that’s not true.

There are two problems with that theory. The first one is if he’s so good at it, he wouldn’t need to share and again, it depends on which side of the pitch the free kick is situated viz-a-viz his weak foot.

I like how the facts always manage to conspire against you and destroy your narrative.

See for yourself. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 3:10pm On Sep 21, 2022
Expert17:
I will choke you with facts/stats grin grin

AGE
Eriksen 30
Payet 35

LEAGUE STRENGTH
Eriksen - Dutch league, EPL and Serie A
Payet - French league and EPL (just 18 months)

FREE-KICK DUTIES SHARED WITH
Payet - Error 404
Eriksen - Kane, Modric, Bale, Dier, Perisic, Martinez, Barella, Bruno, Ronaldo


CLUB FREEKICK GOALS
Payet - 14
Eriksen -16

FREE-KICK GOALS FOR COUNTRY
Payet- 2
Eriksen - 4


Can we move to the next AM attribute? grin grin
But in those 18 months in England, Payet scored free kicks against Man Utd and Liverpool(two top teams).

Eriksen in close to 8 seasons in England has never scored a free kick against a top 6 side.

As for international free kick goals scored, Eriksen has played 8,700+ minutes for Denmark with 4 direct free kick goals scored. He scored in friendlies against low ranked teams like Scotland and Georgia & Poland. The only free kick goal he scored in a proper football game was against 92nd ranked Armenia.

Payet has played 2100+ minutes for France with 2 direct free kick goals against Russia and Cameroon. Payet’s persistent injuries has kept him away from his national side that is way more talented than Eriksen’s Denmark. We aren’t even sure Eriksen would make the French squad in his prime.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal in every 2,200 minutes for Denmark

Payet scored a direct free kick goal in every 1050 minutes for France.

As for club football in England(non farmer’s league)

Payet has scored 6 direct free kick goals in 4,981 mins in England.

Eriksen has 11 direct free kick goals in 25,713 mins in England.

In conclusion, Eriksen scored a direct free kick goal every 2,338 minutes in England.

Payet scored a direct free kick goal every 830 minutes in England.

I hereby rest my case. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 4:34pm On Sep 18, 2022
Expert17:
Lol, links to his Denmark freekick goals

https://www.givemesport.com/1139125-christian-eriksens-incredible-35yard-free-kick-beauty-for-denmark


https://www.skysports.com/football/news/17248/11020560/christian-eriksen-scores-stunning-free-kick-for-denmark-against-armenia


In 2014, he scored 9 free kicks in 9 months


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lCayxmIrI

Payet is a learner cheesy
This Expert17 is a fraud like Maguire.

80% of these free kicks were when Eriksen was in Ajax.

You wouldn’t accept Payet’s free kick records in Marseille(a bigger league than Dutch league) but you would accept Ajax free kicks as evidence of superiority.

If I post Payet’s free kick compilation, you would faint. cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 10:07pm On Sep 17, 2022
odizeey:
Comparing someone that scored a final goal. And had one of the best performances in that final to someone who's on the bench almost throughout.

Omo. Nawa cheesy
Agenda must agend.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:58pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
U17 and U19?? How many? grin

I just shared a short video where you can see all his free kicks, no need to argue.

Watch and enjoy
I saw the video, none of the international goals was for a senior team. The video even showed corner free kicks that he didn’t mean to score but had an awkward bounce.

This was the direct free kick he scored against De Gea. No goalkeeper in the world is catching it. He placed the ball perfectly and this was peak De Gea(15/16) - the PFA De Gea.

https://twitter.com/muzungu4/status/709069832399020032?s=46&t=_dC1QDCJmNTY1Lv483zNzA
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:48pm On Sep 17, 2022
Leyqute:
The right metric should be no of free kicks taken vs free kicks on target vs free kicks scored. Just like shot conversion rate.

That’s the objective way to approach it.
Payet more than doubled Eriksen’s shot conversion rate in the PL.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:47pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
You tube video showing Eriksen 20 freekick goals

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=eriksen+freekicks+goals&view=detail&mid=59E1D0CA984F3C01CB0E59E1D0CA984F3C01CB0E&FORM=VIRE&PC=EMMX01

Eriksen shared the duty with Berbatov, Modric, Bale, Kane, Son, Dier, Perisic, Martinez, Bruno, Etc

Mention 1 player Payet shared the duty with.
About half of those goals were under-19 and under-17 competitions and Ajax(a bigger farmer’s league) than Ligue1.

I can’t remember Eriksen scoring directly from a free kick for the senior national team.

If you have any game, present the evidence.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:38pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Clubs and NT combined.
That’s not true.

Payet in 1.5 seasons scored 6 goals from direct free kick with West Ham.

3 in the PL and another 3 in domestic competitions.

Eriksen doesn’t even come close.

They have asked you to move to another category but your stubbornness and bruised ego won’t let you.

Payet 1-0 Eriksen(Freekick)!

Present the next attribute.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:31pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Conspire? Never

Eriksen has scored at least 20 direct freekicks.
20 in which league?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2022
The stats have conspired against Expert17.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:18pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
1. He scored the worst set piece GK (DDG) how many?

2. Payet played all the set pieces, Eriksen shares the duty with Kane, Modric, Bale, etc
But Payet scored 3 in 18 months(1.5 seasons)

Eriksen has 8 in 8 PL seasons.

Nobody cares how many people players Eriksen shares with. If he’s good at it, nobody would take it from him. Nobody takes it away from Ward-Prowse.

Payet is 1000 times better at free kicks than Eriksen.


BlaqFaze:
Really? you dey watch ball sef..
I don’t think so. Payet that was banging in free kicks for France in 2016 Euros. Maybe De Gea was the opponent’s goalkeeper too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:10pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Oga, Eriksen is better.

DDG and ligue 1 goalkeepers (eg Mendy) who are naturally bad at set pieces helped him. Even Pepe was scoring free kicks there.
Here we go again with Eriksen’s debut.

It’s like you don’t know the basis of your stats.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:09pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Run? I go choke you with facts

grin
Choke?

You made a list of attributes and Payet ate everything you listed and you want to choke me facts.

Let it go.

Payet in 18 months of PL scored from 3 direct free kicks.

Eriksen in 8 seasons has 8 direct free kicks but you want to convince me Eriksen is the better set piece specialist?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:01pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Lol, he rejected United ? Even Timber rejected us. Look for another point.

Let's take it one step at a time.

Starting with Free kick/set pieces, who is better?
Payet is better. That is one of his strongest attributes.




Physics-defying free kick.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:55pm On Sep 17, 2022
Englishisamust:
They will always find one loopholes in the fact or if they see it is true they will ignore it grin grin
You don’t know Nigerians.

They will keep finding loopholes.

The argument started with Payet can only create chances in a farmer’s league. I showed him evidence of Payet’s outstanding season in the PL and it quickly changed to 15/16 was Eriksen’s worst season.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:53pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Ok, we are comparing Eriksen worst season in EPL with Payet's best season of his career.

Quick one, why is he stuck at Marseille?

Eriksen died, resurrected and signed for one of the biggest club in football. grin

grin grin
But it was you who said he played in a farmer’s league.

He came to the PL, strolled into the toughest league’s team of the season while playing for a mid-table team.

Marseille saw what they were missing and quickly made the call. United ran after Payet but he snubbed Woodward.

Payet didn’t want to be part of the Glazer douchebaggery. cheesy grin

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:44pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17 don run.

The facts are never comfortable. cheesy grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:41pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Mention an AM attributes Payet has more than Erikssen.

Key passes
Assists
Goals
Chances created
Big chance
Free kick goals
grin grin

Eriksen is competing with KDB not ligue 1 specialist
Thanks for listing all these things cos Payet is better than Eriksen in all of them.

If you are claiming farmer’s league, we can look comparatively in the one full season they had together.

Payet left West Ham in January 2017. He had a half season in 16/17 so the only full season they had together was 15/16 in the PL and Eriksen played more minutes with better players around him.

So let’s look at the attributes you have listed in 15/16. cheesy

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:16pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
A player that was/is competing with prime Silva, Prime Hazard and Ozil

Who the fvck is Payet cheesy
Payet had 18 months in the PL, and got into the PFA team of the year, he was West Ham’s player of the season.

Eriksen has only made PFA team of the year once in 7 seasons. There are levels to this ish. You don’t compare a total technician like Payet to Eriksen.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:11pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Who was Eriksen's finisher at Brentford?

I am sure West Ham had better players
Eriksen played in Brentford for a year.

He was at Spurs for most of his career and Payet taught him a lesson in playmaking.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:03pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
I will choke you with stats cheesy

Goals from outside the box, technique full ground grin
Since Eriksen’s debut? 2007

23 goals from outside the box in 15 years

What a talent.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:02pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
So AM is just goals and assists cheesy cheesy show me chances created, big chances created, through passes etc.

FYI, Payet was the PK/Set pieces taker for West Ham, Erikssen shared the duties.
But Eriksen had Harry Kane, Dele and Son to finish off the chances.

Who was Payet’s finisher at West Ham?

Stop arguing, uncle.

Payet’s left foot has achieved more than Eriksen.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:00pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Payet isn't close, Eriksen is just behind KDB.

Showing me stats in a league where Pepe and Giroud dominated grin grin
This is a dodgy stat.

Chances created since Eriksen’s debut?

Erik started playing in 2007 thereabout.

If KDB didn’t start that year, how’s that an accurate comparative stat?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga)Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:58pm On Sep 17, 2022
Expert17:
Suddenly League 1 is not a farmers league? cheesy

God is wonderful
I knew you would come with this angle but fortunately for you, I have receipt for this too.

Or the PL is a farmer’s league too?

SMH.

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