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swiz123:
Undisputed king of nostalgia.

There’s no metric when observed objectively doesn’t place Mbappe ahead of R9.. Mbappe is the player R9 failed to become.

WTF?

Mbappe has nothing on R9.

R9 - 94 WC final(bench)
R9 - 98 WC final(poisoned by French chef)
R9 - 02 WC final(won + golden boot)

nateevs:
Walahi. Stats don spoil football. You couldn't have watched Ronaldinho or R9 live and not have been overwhelmed by extreme awe .....at the sheer talent and ability these guys possessed.

This is true.

However, being the best player in the world at some point is the easiest part. Staying on top for close to 20 years is the hardest part. Had R10 & R9 stayed on top for 10 years or more, their names would be in the GOAT debates more often.

Ronaldinho only scored 33 goals for Brazil.
Ronaldo De Lima scored 62 goals for Brazil.

Cristiano has scored 145 goals for Portugal.
In other words, if you add up the 2Rs career for their national teams, they have scored way less than Cristiano.

Kids look at Wikipedia and instantly adopt CR7 as their GOAT. There’s no ample time to be checking for old clips on YouTube.

patrickmuf:
Martinez should do whatever it takes to stay fit throughout next season. His composure on the ball is as good as anything I have seen from a defender....

United couldn’t have won that game at the Emirates without him.

His line breaking passes from the deep is incredible. Dude can pass a Nike ball through the eye of a needle. He just needs to take care of himself to avoid niggling injuries that is threatening the longevity of his career.

He’s an amazing player.

Spy360:
How much has Man United and Chelsea spent? Why haven't they won the league?

It's been 13 years, 17 more years to go. So be patient and remember to stay alive 😂

Notice how you moved the goalpost.

I said Pep(one manager) spent €2 billion. You quickly changed your own question to how much clubs have spent on different projects via different managers.

You are a dishonest person.

maik99:
stats dont tell the whole story
he is a good player,definitely not 100m+ good
with the amount of reinforcements we need in midfield it will be unwise to spend that amount on one player

Leyqute:
I understand that he could be a great buy.

But I think you should look at the other side as well. What if he doesn’t click on as expected? We’ve made mistakes like this in the past so many times. Now is the time for caution. It’ll be crystal clear when the time comes for us to buy a £100m player.

Brighton slapped €120m on Baleba around this time last year, what calculus did INEOS consult that told them Anderson would cost less than Baleba?

Anderson is going to the WC.
Anderson will start for England.

Anderson was chosen ahead of European title winning players like Palmer & Foden.

Anderson was chosen ahead of the all conquering, European winning Crystal Palace’s Adam Wharton.

Somehow, INEOS still thought he would cost £50m?

maik99:
you speak like you are talking about prime Pogba
Anderson is a good player but not one that we cant afford to pass on, especially at that price

Ok.

Joezinho:
Baba we bam oo. Where you dey since na. Hope you are back for good 😃

I have been traveling a lot - I should be stable by the middle of next week.

dreamxhaser:
The thing is most players you think are elites are just above average at best. The difference is a good manager, system, and motivation (if the players are ready to give their all to the club).


Some players you think are elite under pep might flop and become mid under Amorim. We have seen examples here at united where players we thought were finished suddenly became better because Carricks system suits them and they were more motivated.


A squad that is made of above average players, with two or three elite players like bruno are capable of winning anything as long as the system suits them, and they are motivated.

This is the lie you people tell yourselves. The highest spending team usually wins the league. You might get one odd team winning it once in 10 years but I don’t rely on miracles.

Arteta has spent €1 billion. His victory came at a huge price, it’s not by accident.

Pep spent €2 billion. His dominance came at a very huge price, it’s not an accident.

You cannot win the PL with above average players and 3 elite players when your rivals have more than 3 elite players in your squad. If one of your elite players get injured(fixture congestion), your title dreams are over.

United need to be serious. It’s been 13 years without a PL title.

Leyqute:
While I agree that we should be buying elite players even if they’re expensive, I don’t think now is the time for that.

We’re in a phase of squad building where lavish outlays on a single player can be a costly mistake that will take years to correct. The only scenario where those kinds of expenses make sense is when they’re the last piece that completes the puzzle.

My brother, this is the crucial moment INEOS should buying elite players. Carrick has a huge opportunity now to close the gap on the top teams. All the top six managers have changed managers in the last few months apart from Arteta(a serial bottler).

United have to give Carrick a chance here. If a talent like Anderson is available in the market, United should be showing real ambition to get him - to make a statement.
You just know that lad is destined for greatness. If United miss him & he moves to any of United’s direct rivals, it will be difficult to win the PL.

dreamxhaser:
I prefer we split that 120 million in three, then use it to get 3 average or slightly above average midfielders that will do same job as Anderson.

Yeah, like when United got Donny Van De Beek when Partey or Declan Rice was required. What eventually happened to Van De Beek? Sold at a loss.

Elite players win you elite trophies. It’s the reason City have been top for so long. If United want to compete for the PL next season while playing in Europe, they need quality players.

spillo1:
He was a key member of city treble winning team. He started every ucl knockout match, ucl final and the Fa cup final. Do you think Pep would trust and continue to start him if he wasn't delivering as expected?

He was a key member in delivering multiple titles and can never be a flop.

Grealish was a massive flop at Man City.

MRTA7:
EVen if he prefers United. We're not in the position to spend that type of money on 1 player.

Why aren’t United in that position? INEOS promised to bring in the best in class. They sacked Amorim because he asked for midfielders in January. They said they don’t want to buy half-baked players just for the sake of buying. They told everyone Anderson was the main target for the past 9 months.

Why are you guys letting INEOS get away with murder? United will never win the PL with this attitude in the market. Man City getting Anderson makes it more difficult for United to finish 1st because both clubs are competing in the same competition.

If United are going to lose him, let it be to the clubs outside the PL.

patrickmuf:
I read that he favors a move to our city rivals. So that could be the reason we are considering other options.

Please show me where the player has actually said he’s choosing City over United.

I need a direct quote from the player himself not what Mark Ogden or Fabrizio thinks. All those media hacks work for INEOS to control the narratives.

TrebleChamp:
Anderson prefers Mancity to us, plus he is no where near what Nottenham Forest are asking. City already had a £124m which include add-on rejected for him, United shouldn't be throwing that kind of money on a players who prefers joining our noisy neighbour..

He doesn’t! Everyone keeps saying this but the player hasn’t actually decided where he’s going.

This is INEOS drip-feeding their media hacks to make it look like the player made a decision and there was nothing they could do to get the player.

Nottingham Forest have a price on the asset. If United maych the price, they will get the player. INEOS don’t want to spend such a big fee on one player so they are using underhanded tactics to fool Man Utd fans.

When Semenyo chose Man City, we all saw the news before the transfer.

patrickmuf:
He wouldn't be a bad choice to be honest.

As for the midfield, we should be going all out for Tonali because it seems City are going to get Anderson.

Man Utd have had 12 months to sort out their abysmal midfield. They should be throwing everything at Anderson. He’s worth more than £120m.

When Arsenal signed Rice 3 years ago for £105m, Rice wasn’t this “Anderson” good. We have seen players like Caicedo and Enzo Fernandes with £100m+ fees many years ago. Why is INEOS reluctant to pay the top dollar for an amazing player?

Joezinho:
Hey bruhhh !!! Where have you been, bruh? Welcome back! 😄

You came back at just the right time, CR7 is about to win the World Cup!!! 😎

Joezinho, my G. 😎

How is it going?

What’s happening Brothers & Sisters?

Where’s Expert17, Joezinho & KingAlabi?

Expert17:
But after 2015, Eriksen transferred to Inter Milan - Brentford, and Man Utd while Creator Payet went from Lille to Nantes to Marseille

Payet loves France.

If he wanted a big money signing, he would have jumped at Woodward’s offer. Payet is not money hungry like Eriksen who left Spurs when the Pochettino’s ship began to sink.

No matter how you shake it, Payet is the better player.

Even whoscored know Payet is better.

Expert17:
Ok, but Fabio a LB started over Pogba in midfield at a very tender age.

Eriksen has played well in all his clubs - Ajax, Spurs, Inter, Brentford and Man utd. No blame was passed to club owners, lack of DM, Padlock etc

Pogba was 3 years younger than Fabio.

Pogba was 18, Fabio was 21.

Until that game against Blackburn on New Year’s Eve in 2011, Pogba hadn’t played a PL game and not selecting him on that day lost United 3 precious points.

Those points could be blamed as one of the reasons City won the PL title on goals difference in 11/12. Had United won or drawn that game at the very least, City wouldn’t have won the PL.

It was Fergie’s loss.

Expert17:
Good, so Son is a better goal scorer than Ronaldo.

Can you tell me why Payet hasn't sign for a big club @ 35?

Last season, Son was a better goal scorer than Ronaldo. Statistics don’t lie.

In 2015/16, Payet was the better creator than Eriksen.

Last season, Payet was still the better creator than Eriksen.

Matter of fact, from 2015 till date, Payet is still the better creator than Eriksen despite the fact that he’s 35 and he should be on the wane right now.

At his old age, he’s still shitting on Eriksen.

PAYET 10-0 Eriksen.

Expert17:
Hatred for a player because he replaced your MCM -Fraudgba

Pogba is the better player.

Pogba will never play for Brentford at a tender age of 29.

Expert17:
No age, numbers, IFs in your logic.

When Son and Ronaldo met in EPL, Son conquered and that makes him the better goal scorer.

No need to shalaye

And that’s fine.

The only problem is that Ronaldo was already 37 when he met Son in the PL and it’s for that reason he gets benched by Rashford these days.

However, Eriksen wasn’t 37 when Payet came to the PL. Eriksen was actually the younger player and he was only 23 years of age(at the peak of his career).

So can you tell us why Eriksen got cooked in his prime by someone from a Farmer’s league?

Expert17:
King of creativity my foot little wonder he hasn't played for a big club @ 35

No need to continue this argument, looking at their CVs ( trophies, clubs, individual awards, records, statistics, etc) we all know the better player.

At 35, Payet is causing mayhem for defenders.

Eriksen wasn’t even analyzed amongst the group of primary creators and my very much loved and respected Bruno Fernandes is nowhere near the elite primary creators of Europe.

Once again, the stats have conspired against you.

PAYET 10-0 ERIKSEN.

Game
Set
Match!!!!

Expert17:
Just like the moment Son and Ronaldo played together in EPL last season, using your logic, Son is better

There is reason why one played for Ajax, Inter Milan, Manchester United and Spurs and the other can't get a move to any decent club, he rejected all the big clubs in Europe

At least you have accepted that Eriksen is better in free kicks, let's move to goals and assists.

This isn’t my logic as Ronaldo was 37 in the season you were trying to compare him to Heung Son.

When Son scores 42 goals in the England in one season, you can compare him to Ronaldo.

In every metric that matters, Payet fed Eriksen with cow dung and nowhere did I accept Eriksen is the better FK taker.

Payet took him to the cleaners in the only full season they had together in the toughest league in Europe in free kick expertise.

Expert17:
Just like the moment Son and Ronaldo played together in EPL last season, usng your logic, Son is better

There is reason why one played for Ajax, Inter Milan, Manchester United and Spurs and the other can't get a move to any decent club, he rejected all the big clubs in Europe

At least you have accepted that Eriksen is better in free kicks, let's move to goals and assists.

You shot yourself in the foot, my friend.

You were the one that claimed PAYET’s goals in Ligue 1 cannot be taken seriously cos it’s a farmer’s league.

The only where else he’s played is the PL and the stats I posted were over 2 seasons(15/16 & 16/17) - not a one off season.

Payet shat on Eriksen wherever league you want to compare.

He’s the king of creativity.

Expert17:
-Goals from Ligue 1 but we can't use freekicks scored in Ligue 1

- Eriksen played with goal machines Ronaldo, Bruno, Lukaku, Kane, Son, Martinez, Bale and scored 115. Your creative plug played with farmers in league 1 with just 138 goals.

- Payet is the penalty taker for his clubs

- scoring/assiting every 148 minutes in Seria A and EPL is GREATER/BETTER than scoring/assisting every 146 minutes in Ligue 1.

Stay away from numbers, I will finish you

I heard Payet rejected Man Utd, Mancity and Real Madrid in favor of Lille, Nantes and Le Havre

Scoring/assisting every 148 mins in Serie A Is better than scoring 146 mins in Ligue 1 but the moment Payet stepped into the PL, he fed Eriksen with cow-dung in a team that had no Harry Kane or Heung-Min Son that would have racked up his PL assists.

It’s abundantly clear that you have been buried.

In the period Payet was around in the PL,

Payet scored/assisted 29 goals in 4084 PL minutes
Eriksen scored/assisted 42 goals in 6102 PL minutes

Payet scored/assisted a goal every 141 PL mins
Eriksen scored/assisted a goal in every 145 PL mins.

PAYET wins again. .

What’s your excuse now? West Ham were a better team than Spurs or PAYET scored 28 penalty kicks?

Give up, you have been thoroughly dismembered

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Expert17:
Wow, Payet retired in the 90s.


The truth shall set you free. I provide facts/stats, not empty words.

>Payet is the biggest name in all his clubs.
>Payet is the no 1 freekick taker in all his clubs.
>Payet is 5 years older and played 200 games more than Eriksen.

Freekicks goals: Eriksen 20 - Payet - 16





No numbers, age, or IFs in the theory. Son is better than Ronaldo




They were after him like a rash, but none signed him, right? He preferred top clubs like Le Havre, Lille and Nantes





History teacher, but but but Eriksen later played for Inter Milan and Manchester united.

Mention just 1 top club that signed Payet




Lol, per minute kor per seconds ni





Mourinho is always right bro, Pogba is a virus and a flop. Finir




Ironically, he died, resurrected and successfully replaced Pogba Juju-gba.



Oga Analyst, DeGea is not even close to VDS. 52 years old VDS will walk into that Spain team.

De Gea and Van Der Sar, WTF I have to start doubting your football knowledge.




History Teacher, no player will pick Marseille over Spurs.

Small clubs in EPL will poach Marseille's Best players. (e.g West Ham signing Payet etc.)

Newly promoted Nottingham Forrest has a higher wage bill and will beat them to signings.




Payet has more market value? another lie

Per minutes,lmfao; there is nothing LLLL cannot do.

Goals and assists/Games: Eriksen
Chances created/Games: Eriksen
Big chances created/Games: Eriksen
Freekick goals: Eriksen
Trophies: Eriksen
Individual Awards: Eriksen
Market Value : Eriksen

Eriksen >>>>>>>>> Payet

The facts don’t agree with you….. ; D

Career total.

Eriksen has 115 goals, 165 assists in 41,383 minutes of club football.

Payet has 138 goals, 182 minutes in 46,981 minutes of club football.

In terms of minutes per goal…..

Eriksen scored one club goal every 360 mins
Payet scored one club goal every 340 mins.

PAYET wins goalscoring

In terms of general creativity(goals + assists)

Eriksen assisted/scored a club goal every 148 mins
Payet assisted/scored a club goal every 146 mins.

PAYET wins creativity


In every metric of creativity that matters, PAYET always came on top. Eriksen(whom you claimed has always had better players in his team) has less creativity than PAYET(whom you said was always the best player in all his teams).

Another shot in the foot!

Give up Expert17, you are starting to sound like an amateur. .

Karleb:
Brentford is actually a good team. Don't wish them bad.

A championship team will fit Maguire.

The idiot is so egoistic. Look at that foolish apology he rendered on social media.

These English boys don't even care if anything is at stake.

They have friends in the media who protect them but Maguire has become so bad that even the protection is starting to wane.

All the mistakes he kept making at United and the media were blaming the other defenders for finally came to fruition during this international break.

Maguire’s mistakes led directly to the two goals Germany scored from last night. He’s been making those type of mistakes for 3 seasons straight but his media friends blamed De Gea, Lindelof and Bailly for those mistakes.

Fortunately for people like us who have been shouting about Maguire for 3 seasons, the media had no DDG to blame last night. It was clear for everyone to see that there are women in the Lioness team that are better defenders than Maguire.

Expert17:
So Eriksen even played a season without a freekick? Tottenham weren't awarded any free kick that season or what? you are even making my points. Show me a season where Payet didn't take a free kick.

Such stats didn’t exist when Payet broke through.

Expert17:
You can't even analyze information to generate statistics. It is simple, use what you have to get the data:
>Payet is the biggest name in all his clubs.
>Payet is the no 1 freekick taker in all his clubs.
>Payet is 5 years older and played 200 games more than Eriksen.

But your fear for LLLL won't make you say the truth

If your submission has any logic in them, you would know being a number 1 free kick taker means nothing. Even at West Ham where Payet was number one FK taker, Eriksen still took more PL FKs but it was Payet that scored more.

Payet scored 6 FK goals in total in the 15/16 season. 3 in the PL, 3 in cup competitions. A haul Eriksen has never achieved before in the toughest league in Europe. Just because you share doesn’t mean you cannot take more FKs than a favorite FK taker.

Once again, simple logic has defeated your argument.

Expert17:
Save yourself from shalayes.

No IFs or age in your theory/logic. "Son is better than Ronaldo because he outscored him last season"

That would be true when Son scores 31 PL goals in one season? Has Son achieved that? No

Has Eriksen ever scored 6 FK goals in one season? No

You shot yourself in the foot with the Ronaldo analogy.

Expert17:
Marseille players will go on strike to force a move to Brentford.

Payet is creative but no top club has ever submitted a bid.

Man City
Man Utd
Chelsea
Arsenal

They were all after him like a rash after coming to the PL to teach your creative players a lesson in ultra creativity. Payet from the trenches of Marseille came to West Ham(a mid-table team) and walked into the PFA team of the season in his first attempt.

Eriksen didn’t get into one until his 4th season in England and that was his only time ever. Nobody rates Eriksen. Bale, Carrick, Modric, etc were poached from Spurs in their prime but nobody took a look at Eriksen.

Expert17:
Chances Created/ Game Eriksen beats him, so rest

Chances created/game is not an accurate stats. The true stats is chances created/minute

Expert17:
Mourinho is always right, Pogba is a flop and needs world-class players around him to perform.

Pogba win Ballon d'or ? you and your useless takes the same way you told us De Gea is better than Van der sar

Mourinho is always right. He said Pogba was a virus in terms of his party playboy lifestyle. He has never said Pogba isn’t a world class player. It was Mourinho that brought Pogba to the PL - so go and review history before you open your mouth like an alcoholic.

Pogba walked the FIFPRO stage with the elite - same as De Gea. Pogba won a World Cup. Pogba scored in a World Cup final. If Eriksen dies and reincarnates back as a football player, he would never walk the stages Pogba has been.

De Gea is a better GK than Van Der Sar. DDG is the most decorated Man Utd player in their history. How many player of the season awards does he have?

DDG has more PFA team of the season entries than John Terry, Van Der Sar, Petr Cech, Gareth Bale, Harry Kane, Mohammed Salah, De Bruyne, Sadio Mane, etc

If all these players are considered legends and elite players for their clubs, why won’t you consider DDG as one? Do you know what it means for DDG(who only won 1 PL title) to have more PFA team entries than KDB that has won 4 PL titles?

You talk a lot of rubbish for a United fan.

Expert17:
Best Teams - Man Utd, Inter Milan, and Ajax. And no player will pick Marseille over Spurs.

At least he has signed for top clubs, mention 1 big club Bad-yet played for?

Marseille is better than Spurs.
Marseille have one UCL trophy in their cabinet.

Marseille have won their domestic league 9 times
Spurs have won what?

Like I said, you talk a lot of rubbish for a United fan. It’s like you have been sleeping with Chelsea fans.

Expert17:
All the top clubs were after him, but no bid was submitted or rejected. Ride on bro.

He went back to France Farmer's league where he belongs - trenches.

Which applies to your idol - Messi.

Goals and assists/Games: Eriksen
Chances created/Games: Eriksen
Big chances created/Games: Eriksen
Freekick goals: Eriksen
Trophies: Eriksen
Individual Awards: Eriksen
Market Value : Eriksen

Eriksen >>>>>>>>> Payet

Payet has more goals/assists per minute
Payet has more created chances per minute
Payet has more big chances created per minute
Payet has more free kick accuracy
Payet has more meaningful individual awards

Payet has more market value.

And the recent stats have shown Payet is 40 tiers above Eriksen in creativity.

nelxxy:
I think Maguire constant criticism are overboard and too harsh or extreme.

Maguire is shït.

The criticism isn’t enough. He should be criticized until he begs to be sold to Brentford.

Auskyd:
Lol yes daddy. I’m gone now.

Olodo say A13 is stronger than A15 lmao.

So dense.

Go to your tecno section. This zone is for iOS users.

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