European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:38pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Clubs and NT combined. That’s not true. Payet in 1.5 seasons scored 6 goals from direct free kick with West Ham. 3 in the PL and another 3 in domestic competitions. Eriksen doesn’t even come close. They have asked you to move to another category but your stubbornness and bruised ego won’t let you. Payet 1-0 Eriksen(Freekick)! Present the next attribute. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:31pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Conspire? Never
Eriksen has scored at least 20 direct freekicks. 20 in which league? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:20pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
The stats have conspired against Expert17. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:18pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: 1. He scored the worst set piece GK (DDG) how many?
2. Payet played all the set pieces, Eriksen shares the duty with Kane, Modric, Bale, etc But Payet scored 3 in 18 months(1.5 seasons) Eriksen has 8 in 8 PL seasons. Nobody cares how many people players Eriksen shares with. If he’s good at it, nobody would take it from him. Nobody takes it away from Ward-Prowse. Payet is 1000 times better at free kicks than Eriksen. BlaqFaze: Really? you dey watch ball sef.. I don’t think so. Payet that was banging in free kicks for France in 2016 Euros. Maybe De Gea was the opponent’s goalkeeper too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:10pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Oga, Eriksen is better.
DDG and ligue 1 goalkeepers (eg Mendy) who are naturally bad at set pieces helped him. Even Pepe was scoring free kicks there. Here we go again with Eriksen’s debut. It’s like you don’t know the basis of your stats. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:09pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Run? I go choke you with facts
 Choke? You made a list of attributes and Payet ate everything you listed and you want to choke me facts. Let it go. Payet in 18 months of PL scored from 3 direct free kicks. Eriksen in 8 seasons has 8 direct free kicks but you want to convince me Eriksen is the better set piece specialist? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 9:01pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Lol, he rejected United ? Even Timber rejected us. Look for another point.
Let's take it one step at a time.
Starting with Free kick/set pieces, who is better? Payet is better. That is one of his strongest attributes. Physics-defying free kick. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:55pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Englishisamust: They will always find one loopholes in the fact or if they see it is true they will ignore it  You don’t know Nigerians. They will keep finding loopholes. The argument started with Payet can only create chances in a farmer’s league. I showed him evidence of Payet’s outstanding season in the PL and it quickly changed to 15/16 was Eriksen’s worst season. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:53pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Ok, we are comparing Eriksen worst season in EPL with Payet's best season of his career.
Quick one, why is he stuck at Marseille?
Eriksen died, resurrected and signed for one of the biggest club in football. 
 But it was you who said he played in a farmer’s league. He came to the PL, strolled into the toughest league’s team of the season while playing for a mid-table team. Marseille saw what they were missing and quickly made the call. United ran after Payet but he snubbed Woodward. Payet didn’t want to be part of the Glazer douchebaggery. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:44pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17 don run. The facts are never comfortable.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:41pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Mention an AM attributes Payet has more than Erikssen.
Key passes Assists Goals Chances created Big chance Free kick goals 
Eriksen is competing with KDB not ligue 1 specialist Thanks for listing all these things cos Payet is better than Eriksen in all of them. If you are claiming farmer’s league, we can look comparatively in the one full season they had together. Payet left West Ham in January 2017. He had a half season in 16/17 so the only full season they had together was 15/16 in the PL and Eriksen played more minutes with better players around him. So let’s look at the attributes you have listed in 15/16. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:16pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: A player that was/is competing with prime Silva, Prime Hazard and Ozil
Who the fvck is Payet  Payet had 18 months in the PL, and got into the PFA team of the year, he was West Ham’s player of the season. Eriksen has only made PFA team of the year once in 7 seasons. There are levels to this ish. You don’t compare a total technician like Payet to Eriksen.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:11pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Who was Eriksen's finisher at Brentford?
I am sure West Ham had better players Eriksen played in Brentford for a year. He was at Spurs for most of his career and Payet taught him a lesson in playmaking. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:03pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: I will choke you with stats 
Goals from outside the box, technique full ground  Since Eriksen’s debut? 2007 23 goals from outside the box in 15 years What a talent. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:02pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: So AM is just goals and assists show me chances created, big chances created, through passes etc.
FYI, Payet was the PK/Set pieces taker for West Ham, Erikssen shared the duties. But Eriksen had Harry Kane, Dele and Son to finish off the chances. Who was Payet’s finisher at West Ham? Stop arguing, uncle. Payet’s left foot has achieved more than Eriksen. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 8:00pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Payet isn't close, Eriksen is just behind KDB.
Showing me stats in a league where Pepe and Giroud dominated  This is a dodgy stat. Chances created since Eriksen’s debut? Erik started playing in 2007 thereabout. If KDB didn’t start that year, how’s that an accurate comparative stat? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:58pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Suddenly League 1 is not a farmers league?
God is wonderful I knew you would come with this angle but fortunately for you, I have receipt for this too. Or the PL is a farmer’s league too? SMH.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:53pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: So Payet and Erikssen retired after 2015/2016?
From what you shared, they both scored 4/8.
The only football attribute Payet beats Eriksen is dribbling. At that point, Eriksen had 24 apps to Payet’s 20 apps. Payet is clear. He created the most chances in the top 5 leagues of Europe for a decade. Not KDB, not David Silva and not the midget in PSG. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:51pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Lol,
Passing - Eriksen Assisting - Eriksen Goals - Eriksen Set pieces - Eriksen Chances creation - Eriksen
But Payet is better, okay  Where is Eriksen on this list?  I rest my case.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:45pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Lol,
Passing - Eriksen Assisting - Eriksen Goals - Eriksen Set pieces - Eriksen Chances creation - Eriksen
But Payet is better, okay  You probably didn’t watch Payet at West Ham. He was a bigger influence to the Hammers than Bruno was for us and Bruno was huge. This was their head to head stats in 2015/16 for context. You know I always have receipt for this type of discourse. There you go….. 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:34pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Yeah, and Matuidi played with 8/10 CM at PSG/Juventus/France.
He's currently struggling in MLS. He’s 35. Where should he be? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:32pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Payet better than Eriksen?
Shaku shaku with no output, Eriksen beats him in everything.
Matuidi?  Payet is better than Eriksen.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:31pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Englishisamust: Why do you think Brighton and Brentford give us wotowoto. They wouldn’t acknowledge this point. Eriksen did not win any PL game with Maguire/Shaw but Pogba is a flop when all he had throughout were those clowns? How football fans cannot put context in their argument makes me laugh. They are the same people that said Ronaldo was the reason United finished 6th last season. Without him, United would have won the PL at a canter. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:17pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Englishisamust: Who did he want to bench there?? . Despite pogba injury Deschamps still dey chase pogba for world cup. The last Euros was when I raised my hands and gave up Pogba is truly world class. The kind of passes he was spraying from deep, KDB couldn’t reach that level of ingenuity. He was too good. Profligacy in front of goal killed France. Pogba was the star of that competition. Expert17: But Matuidi,Payet and Rabiot made the team.
 Matuidi/Payet are better than Eriksen. Rabiot was left out in their 2018 World Cup team, placed on a reserve list and he took himself out of it. In 2020 Euros, Rabiot only made the squad cos it was increased to 26 players(COVID reasons) and he only played as a left back after France’s 2 left backs got injured. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:12pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Brendan Rodgers could get sacked on Monday. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:08pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Pogba was great for Juventus and France and not Man Utd.
In our books, he's behind Herrera and Bruno. Eriksen won’t make the French squad. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:01pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Son Heung-min.
What a goal!!!!! |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 7:00pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
odizeey: You look at some claims here and begin to laugh.
Same people that are expecting Martial to cook under Ten Hag are talking trash about Pogba. To them management was the problem of Martial. "He was run down" A lot of people here use their personal issues to rank players. I can hate a player but acknowledge his talents. They are two different issues. Over here, if they don’t like a certain player. Everything about him must be bad. There are MESSI fans here who think Elanga is better than Ronaldo.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:52pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Herrera carried Pogba, In fact Herrera and Romero were better in that competition.
Bruno won all his awards on the pitch not by votes, goals scored, assists, etc.
After Maguire, Pogba is our worst signing Herrera carried Pogba in 2017 Europa but it was Pogba that won 5 MOTMs in the competition. Once again, the jokes write itself. Bruno won all his awards on the pitch but he couldn’t get past the farmers of Villareal in 120 minutes of football. Pogba, however, scored against a very good Ajax side in a final to win the first Europa competition for Man Utd. There are levels to greatness. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:42pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: But Ander Herrera was our best midfielder and player of the season 2016/2017.
I will take Herrera at Manchester over Flogba
 I said Pogba won the Europa trophy and he was the best player of that competition. Bruno didn’t win Europa and he was never considered the best player in Europa - he’s played in it twice. Pogba is the better player. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:31pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Expert17: Bruno flopped in Europa?
The same person that won
Highest goal scorer Team of the season x3 2nd best player X2
 Bruno didn’t win the cup Bruno wasn’t the best player - Pogba won everything in 16/17 and half of the first team were on crutches.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Illimitable: 6:06pm On Sep 17, 2022 |
Leyqute: How often was Pogba injured when Mourinho signed him?
Inconsistency was the reason he was played all over the pitch. And he failed to excel in all those roles. He was one of our best players under Mourinho. Inconsistency wasn’t the reason he was played all over the pitch. The lack of quality players was why Pogba was moved round to compensate for the weakness in the team. Englishisamust: I forgot add uefa Europa best player of the year 2016/2017 playing with mediocre players.
Let give some respect to pogba abeg. Bruno and Eriksen have played in this competition many many times with a much better squad, they all flopped. Meanwhile, Pogba……
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