₦airaland Forum

LordReed:
LoLz. The problem is it doesn't fit YOUR definition of the god. That's what makes it so funny. How can you claim that there is a loving god (do you disspute this claim?) but people disagree so much on what he says to the point of killing one another yet this so called loving god DOES NOTHING. Exactly what you'd expect from a nonexistent mythical thing.

What stops God from permitting division or differences? No such thing in the Bible that claims there's a God. But you that claim there's no God have definition and specifications for who you claim doesn't exist. That's hilarious like i said.
God is not just a loving God, God is love. So again, He beats you to it by defining love.
Whether people kill themselves or not, people still die. Even much more than the number of people killing themselves over God. So your point is moot in the big scheme. As regards difference and diversity, you'd notice how creation itself is diverse. All humans unique, all planets different. Even the gospel accounts come from different angles. God is too much to be in the box dear.

richmond500:
please the pH refinery did not work for over 6months, first flare was December last year, with some insiders saying it was not actually working but blending.
Around May, it was closed for maintenance and that was the end of it.
Btw, u asked for proof and I attached a picture.
Also please I am not expecting Tinubu to solve all problems in two years but at least he should solve the once he promised to solve in his first term.
I am not expecting the 1tr dollar economy now so I didn't even talk about it

https://www.arise.tv/after-years-of-neglect-port-harcourt-refinery-begins-operations-at-60000-bpd/

began Operations November 24 2024

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2025/05/breaking-nnpc-announces-port-harcourt-refinery-shutdown/

This May 24. So about 6 months operation after years of neglect. Tinubu rejigged NNPC’s board: Bayo Ojulari now serves as GCEO and he says sale is not out of the options due to underperformance. It's different from Kyari that kept insisting it must work. Like i said, let's see how it goes. To me, it's pontless spending so much and more just to prove a point when better things can be achieved.

In the link you gave or screenshot, someone countered the claims with the exact words "In his remarks, Shetima said he never heard Tinubu during the electioneering campaigns promised to bring exchange rate one dollar to N200." It's same thing with me, i followed the campaigns a bit, i didn't hear that and i know of course that will be a ridiculous thing to say in the 2023 campaigns. Here is your link, you can go through it.
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2023/07/foreign-exchange-rate-reps-urge-support-for-tinubus-gov/

As for the first term, it still has about two years. Plus there's been setbacks which is normal. Biggest setback being the tax reforms but at least at all at all na him bad pass. The tax reform bills and the national single window are KEY to economic recovery that will reach everybody. They are just going to kick off in the first quarter of 2026 due to democratic processes. But it's much better than previous governments who would probably take 10 years or 20 to achieve it. Let's keep watching and assessing.

richmond500:
Tinubu said he understands the problem of Nigeria and he understands what he will face before he made those promises in his manifesto.
I did not make those things up, they are on the internet.
You can't ask me what he would have done with those resources when he said it himself that he understood what is involved.

Please this is not about being positive bias towards Tinubu, he has performed beyong average

He's on good course.

Tinubu said his plan was to keep the naira at 500 first then over the next two years, he will reduce it to 300 to a dollar.

Kindly provide proof of this.

He said Nigeria will produce 2m barrels per day, till today we are still hovering around 1.5m

i don't know if there's any proof of this but we're making progress. It's not an ice block industry.

He said he will revive Ajaoku steel, where is the steel?

i know work is ongoing. We that support him didn't expect decades of problems and neglect to be solved in 2 years. We campaigned for a visionary not a magician.

The PH refinery worked for over 6 months, are you aware? Let's watch the next move, if it's better to sell or abandon. i am personally not very keen on the refineries working just for working sake. If there's a better deal, it's open.

He said the poor will breath, today rent is 1m and average wage is N150k.

The poor will breath. Patience and hardwork. It's a democracy, not an autocracy.

StaffofOrayan:
And who is supposed to do that when you have all become Muslims and Christians?
For example who is supposed to grow local football league when everyone watches premier League?
The African mind is too weird!

There was a time Muslims drank Camel urine to cure themselves from illness but they realized Mohammed might have been saying jackkk hehehe

Supposed to do what? Nothing wrong with watching a good thing or buying a good thing from outside. It's not mutually exclusive to build yours in the process. Have you seen the Saudi league, the South African league, or the South American leagues? Do you think they hide in hole and not watch the European leagues? Does this stop them from having better leagues than yours. Why blame others for your own failures? Change is permanent, get that into your understanding instead of fighting blindly for smoke.

richmond500:
Tinubu said his plan was to keep the naira at 500 first then over the next two years, he will reduce it to 300 to a dollar.
He said Nigeria will produce 2m barrels per day, till today we are still hovering around 1.5m
He said he will revive Ajaoku steel, where is the steel?
He said PH refinery will work but it was all politics.
He said the poor will breath, today rent is 1m and average wage is N150k.

What are we really celebrating in this country pls?

Well, there's always a plan until you get hit in the face. That's reality. While i doubt your claims about what Tinubu said or promised, the reality and practicality is better to discuss. Everyone gets promised an airplane or mansion in life. Look closer at the resources and what's being done with them. What could be done better, and what is being done well. That's constructive criticism, not just bandying needless negativity.

Blackman7:
How much is Nigeria owing china ?

China debt comes with lower interest rate, IMF is double. It also comes with longer tenor and grace period. Also usually tied to projects.

malali:
These kind of news is designed to deceive the public.

Why dont you list all the other places that we owe ?

The IMF debt was the least of our Debts ?

We owe world bank ? We owe Chinese Bank ?

Kindly supply the figures.

richmond500:
Ok, subsidy was removed 2yrs ago.
And till this day, the average Nigerian hasnt seen the benefits.
Just paper economics and voodoo accounting.

i used that to remind you why the value of naira is where it is. What are the benefits you want to see as an average Nigerian. Let's see some realistic views.

You go beg las las, PDP. The cruel set of people that should have proved clearly that democracy is better than military rule.

Domyresearch:
Okay, compare the cost of living between now and then as well.

Compare the cost of living with what would have been if subsidy was not removed from fuel and forex. Can you?

richmond500:
compare this to the value of naira.
Let's see if we made progress

Errm, subsidy was removed from the naira. Recall?

We were not tired of you when you were made super minister. Rest

StaffofOrayan:
But you can do that for Islam?

When you discard killing, beating, and other humiliation. Allow others also discard burial. Simple.

dayo8080:
I disagree with this Oba. When in Rome, one must behave like a Roman. The Oba is the custodian of the traditions and gods of the land.
If you cannot act as the custodian of the gods, you should never become an Oba; the same applies to tradition.

In Rome, they used to have barbaric games and entertainments. It has now been replaced by the common and modern Olympics. They don't continue barbaric behavior to 'behave like Romans'. They once had a "Christian Constantine Caesar" who christainized his whole kingdom.

Max24:
So, our own is idols according to white man indoctrination but their own is true God. Use your sense, pal. Whites and Arabs branded their God as the true God and called yours the fake God and you still accepted it even after giving you education. You need to emancipate yourself.

Are you okay at all? Is emancipation the worship of trees, rivers and statues you and your neighbors made? Why are you using phone and internet by the white man? You should have emancipated yourself by using the town crier still.

StaffofOrayan:
That is ur own idea not mine!
You mean when you hear 'African culture ' this is what comes to ur mind?

It's part of it except you're not realistic but lying to yourself. You can't discard the one that doesn't suit you and insist others don't discard their own. When you discard killing, beating, and other humiliation. Allow others also discard burial. Simple.

izombie:
They have been borrowing money from day one but i don't see what the money is being used for. What happened to the subsidy money? I have no project to show you because they don't exist.

You said that they have been borrowing money for projects, but now you can't point to the projects that you falsely accused them of borrowing money for? Please stop the lazy lies and generalizations. It's better not to say anything than to say what you don't know.

StaffofOrayan:
Where does that happen if not in Nollywood?

Interesting. Seems you are naive or you think traditionalist is only your hometown? i speak of traditionalists across the country and their diverse 'traditions'

How low is this for God's sake? Is sharing food and party stickers now the great hallmarks of leadership and vision?

FreeStuffsNG:
It's about integrity. You can do your thing as a private citizen but when you have signed up , you can quit now before it's too late.

Many of you are not even qualified for the roles you signed up for in the first place. You can be King to your wife and children but King to a traditional community is on a whole new scale. Don't do it if you can't do it.

Let those who can carry the burden do it. These guys are not your mate

Who are the you guys that are not Awujale's mate? By what metrics? So any riff raff that claim traditionalist is suddenly above every one in his village, because the majority have seen and lived with better enlightenment? Do you know how many are actually cajoled, begged or even sometimes threatened to come and be chief or king in their villages?

Expanse2020:
So pastor in Ogbomosho too na eru abi..
Why don't you advice the pastor that it's only traditional people entitled to oba position in yoruba land .. or did you condemned him as a Christian

Many of them are actually begged or sometimes forced and coerced to be traditional rulers. The traditionalists usually can't find someone competent, rich or powerful enough among themselves.

StaffofOrayan:
Because institutions beats the single desire of a man!
This is common sense!

It's not institution and it's not a good one if you insist. Let them go and do institution with government or constitution if they get mind. Kill three virgins, shave innocent people's head and make them sleep with dead is not institution but backwardness.

[quote author=StaffofOrayan post=136202208][/quote]So killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades are your idea of African culture. Interesting.

StaffofOrayan:
Nobody wants to be African
Not Black Americans, not even Africans!
We hate our hair, skin, names, language, every damn thing, so ur comments are not in the least surprising!

Sorry for your self hate but that's not what this is about. It's about freedom from needless and useless practices. A full grown man can't choose how he wants to be buried because?

DolapoX:
Only in Nigeria we see things like this

Is it necessary we modernize our culture

No, let's continue killing twins, taking over any female the king desires, killing virgins, killing women that see masquerades and so on so that we don't modernize our culture.

BeginsAtHome:
Deacons and deaconesses can be chosen from the ranks of Ifa worshippers as well.

Obaship is a TRADITIONAL institution and MUST remain so!!!

The king is actually right and logical. Things have changed and backward traditions and cultures should also change. Backwardness is not an heritage. i would have suggested that they pick traditionalists only to rule, but that is also not inclusive except they only want to rule over traditionalists like themselves.

Na wa oh. These APC defections no dey get season. The 2027 APC victory will be very loud. i fear for the anti APC, the last time Tinubu beat them silly, they've since lost it completely. You hear them and sigh in pity, they can't process or reason like humans again, i'm really genuinely afraid for what happens to them after this loss. Our psycho wards can't take them all, we'll need private investors.
It's not funny at all, i know what i'm saying.

VBCampaign:
The Damnable Errors of Arome Osayi and Jerry Eze

By: Deji Yesufu

I am a civil servant. For the past fifteen years, my morning revolves around preparing children for school; dropping them off early to make their school assembly; and then reporting to the office before 8 am which is the official resumption date for workers in many Nigerian institutions. This particular morning, I complete the circuit early enough and then I drove into our parking lot around twenty minutes past seven. Because I had forty minutes to spare, I wound down the car glasses and tried to inhale and exhale the morning cold breeze. As I did this, somehow my attention was drawn to the two vehicles to my right and left. There were two ladies in these cars, who had the windows of their vehicles wound up. They were praying. As I watched the motion of their mouths, they were obviously listening to prayer session emitting from their phones. I could tell that they were both listening to the same prayer channel from one of these YouTube prayer pastors – either Jerry Eze or Arome Osayi. I found it strange and fortuitous that in a public place, two women who do not know themselves, will be tuned to the same prayer channel, and will be uttering the same “amen” in the same location thousands of kilometers from the individual leading the prayer. I considered it both the magic of the internet and the deception of the prosperity gospel. It is the errors behind the latter that I wish to shed light on in this article.

I do not know Arome Osayi and Jerry Eze in person and it will be impossible for me to comment on who these men are. I draw my judgement on them simply from the content of their preaching and prayers which is all over the internet. I would also naturally not have responded to these men, except that I find their content in the public space, and since I am a religious public commentator, I felt I should share my thoughts with the public too. It might help one or two persons. I will be writing on three essential points about these men: their false prosperity gospel; their endless and meaningless tales; and their “many” deceived followers.

Theologically, there are a few errors that Christians peddle that one cannot consider as damnable. Some of these errors are products of traditional practices in a place that might have influenced the teaching of the Bible in those places; there are other errors that exhume from a faulty interpretation of the scripture. For example, I consider the practice of “speaking in tongues” among Pentecostals as an error but it is not a damnable error. I think that one can be speaking in tongues and still be a conscientious Christian who does not deny the tenets of the Christian faith. The trouble however with these endless prayer sessions, led by the likes of Arome Osayi and Jerry Eze, is that at the root of it is the damnable heresy of the prosperity gospel. The reason why the adherents of these teaching spend morning, afternoon, and night praying, is so that God might bring them into some prosperity and blessing, and so that they might have some liberation from a health challenge. This is not the Christian gospel.

As I write this, the local church that I am pastoring is looking at the life of Jesus as it is recorded in the gospels of John. In chapter eighteen of that book, Jesus Christ is brough before Pilate and the Jews are recommending to the Roman leader that Jesus should be executed. Pilate is confused. He makes it clear to the Jews that he finds no faults in Jesus. In fact, by the turn of the next chapter, the Jews begin to recommend that Jesus be crucified. And Pilate is wondering why the Jews will recommend a capital punishment to a man who had done no offence. When he enquired further from the Jews who this Jesus really was, they respond and said that Jesus had called himself the Son of God. Pilate, a bullish Roman warrior, was scared. He asked Jesus “who are you?” Jesus did not respond. The heart of my point here is however in the final verses of Chapter eighteen, Pilate gives the Jews an option: take Jesus or take Barrabas – Barrabas was an insurrectionist and a murderer. The Jews took Barrabas. In other words, since Jesus did not have an offence, they took the sins of Barrabas and put it on Jesus, while they declared Barrabas free. That, my friends, is the gospel.

The gospel is about God’s gracious work in Christ Jesus – where he took the sins of the world and put it on his Son. Then God brought the whole gamut of his wrath on his Son, and killed him on the cross because of the weight of the sin of the elect that Christ bore. The story did not end there. Jesus, however, rose from the dead after three days. In other words, while the wages of sin is death – Christ defeated death by rising from the dead. Therefore, whoever believes in Jesus, they can trust that Christ has taken away their sin; Christ have forgiven their sins; and Christ has brought them into newness of life in the Holy Spirit. Our duty as Christians, is not to spend the rest of our lives, looking for breakthroughs of prosperity and deliverance from demonic influences; but to simply repent of our sins, believe in Christ as Saviour, and then live the rest of our lives bringing the positive influences of the gospel on our societies. The pastor continues to remind his community of the gospel, and press gospel demands on sinners to repent; the civil servants bringing the effects of the gospel to his community – serving the civil populace at work; the Christian politician bringing gospel light to leadership – showing the world that there are still Daniels and Josephs in our day and time; etc. There is simply nothing Christian in what Arome Osayi, Jerry Eze, and the likes are doing on the internet!

The doctrine that underlines these men’s preaching is called the prosperity gospel, and I can say with biblical authority that anyone who believes their message will not go to heaven. The prosperity gospel is damnable heresy because it teaches that Jesus Christ died to make us healthy and wealthy. It has gone a little further in the Nigerian animist environment, where there is an ingrained belief that there are forces of good and evil forever at war in the “spiritual realm”. They then teach their followers that those who can pray enough; fast enough; give to church enough; etc, are those who will possess the powers to defeat the devil and all of his evil machinations in the spiritual realm. They reduce Christianity to give and take. The whole element of grace in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is lost. Everything is contingent on what you do. If you want results, do the things that these men are asking you to do and you will see results. This is why these prayer sessions are inundated with “testimony sessions”. The testimonies lend credence to the fact that what the man is preaching is true. Osayi and Eze have simply taken over from the false gospel that their fathers in the faith, the like of Oyedepo, Adeboye, and the late Benson Idahosa have taught for years now. They are the new kids on the Charismatic bloc, and they are reaping a fortune in the process.

Again, these men’s “products” are in the public space and no one is using my money to purchase their rubbish. But the time comes when it becomes necessary to put a word of caution for all to read. There is one word that concerns me when it comes to deception in the religious communities. That word is “many”. Jesus used it in Matthew 24 when he spoke about the signs of the end, and what will happen when he is about to return. He said “many” will be deceived by false teachers and false prophets. Similarly, Peter used the same word in his second epistle – the second chapter. He talked about how many false teachers will deceive many in those days. The days when “many” will be deceived is today. And Nigeria has so cultured the environment to allow for these deceivers to flourish in our day and time.

For those who may still have ears to hear, let me say it again: there is no redemption in what Arome Osayi and Jerry Eze are teaching. They are simply repackaging an old heresy: it is the teaching of Balaam who was deceived by the gains he sought to get from ministry. Jesus Christ did not die for anyone to be healthy and wealthy. Jesus died to save you and I from our sins. When we repent of our sins, and trust Jesus as Lord and Saviour, he begins to bring the fruit of righteousness to bear on all that we do. It might please God to make a Christian wealthy. Such a person should understand that God demands that he uses his wealth to further kingdom purposes. It might please God to give you and I a lengthy and healthy life. We should understand that God will demand from us what we used every moment of our health for. For some other Christian, they may never know wealth or enjoy good health all their days. For such, the Lord has given them little and the Lord will still demand to know what they do with the little that they had. Please renounce the gospel of prosperity. Stop listening to Arome Osayi, Jerry Eze, and their likes. I know that my words will fall on “many” deaf ears. But if one person has ability to hear the warning in these words, the effort in writing all these would have been worth it.

Deji Yesufu is the pastor of Providence Reformed Baptist Church Ibadan. He is the author of HUMANITY. He can be reached on naijareformed@gmail.com

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Deji Deji, asking God for help or blessing is different from redemption and forgiveness of sins.

LordReed:
How can you believe there is a loving god that permits this kind of division? LoLz.

As usual, God doesn't fit into your definition, therefore there's no God. Your consistent attempts to make God in some image is hilarious. What stops God from permitting division or differences. It's still people like you that castigate God as narrow when He insists on one way.

izombie:
Stop talking trash. How many times have they borrowed for projects we never see? If i can drive from lagos to onitsha on a very good road, guess what, i will be very happy to pay toll gate on the route. Same goes for everything. We don't pay tax because we know the money will be looted . I bet you, there will be nothing to show for this money they are borrowing now

You that is not talking thrash, mention 5 times the current administration borrowed for projects you didn't see. No need to bet, just make effort to think.

Kukutente23:
Hahaha 😆
Cornfused soul
Commissioning 30km uncompleted road is no wrong abi
When the corn enter body 🌽 🌽

Wrong for you, i don't have to agree with you. It's not a mob here.

Aregbe talk oaks this