₦airaland Forum

ChybuzzDD:
It seems you're one of those poorly taught Christians who claim to be Christians but don't know much about christianity.

There's no confused 'God' that'll work with both Christians and muslims at the same time, despite their different beliefs and practices.

The Christian God can't choose a Muslim who has no Christ in himself to rule over his chosen people, and the Muslim God can't choose a Christian who doesn't believe in Mohammed to preside over his people, the muslims.

You guys should stop deceiving yourselves with stupid religious correctness.

God doesn't play politics. He appoints whosoever He will, not pastors and prophets wish.

bentenny:
Ancestor I believe you must be the hunger stricken one because you don't even know what you are arguing about!
Please take your advise and take swallow to regain some lost brain matter!
At the risk of sounding like a broken record to some one as confused,benighted and prevaricated as you,whether you increase wages or not,it would impede inflation!
As for the strike,I have told you the reason behind the strike threat which so far has forced the FG headed by a deluded president to act accordingly!
Its that simple unless you want me to break it down for you in pidgin or your local dialect!
Since you claim to be an glorified ancestor with no working cerebrum,at least try for once to act your age!

What has the FG been forced to do? Come out of the Obi delusion, most of you seem to be buried in his feaces or something. Your lamba supporter nature is fully out, lol. You tried to hide it much in the beginning, perhaps out of shame. Don't be shy, stay focused.

KnownUnknown:
The dullest knife in the drawer is talking about sharpness.

SMH. i am not the knife in question here, what's the name of your school?

bentenny:
I have told you the best time to remove subsidy is after the most basic conditions which bothers on wage increment and palliatives for the poorest of the poor as demanded by the organised labour have been agreed and implemented!
Once that happens,subsidy can go!
The timeline depends how long they are able to bargain and when they are able to come to a consensus!
Your daddy balablu without putting up any palliatives in place or having a discus with the various unions made a reckless announcement without even a single consultation because he wanted to lick the mic!
The more you try to validate Peter Obi removal the more you make him popular!
Let's even assume Peter had insisted on an outright removal without communicating or consultation with anyone,does that imply that your dementia stricken paymaster must also copy such even if such measure was insensitive?
Try dey make use of your head!
Indeed a once respected image123 has allowed ordinary politics to becloud your sense of judgement!
What a pity!
Guy the finance minister said in explicit terms said that subsidy payment till 30 June,2023 was inputted in the 2023 budget!
Yes or no!
You want to believe one while denying another!
You cannot cherry pick the information that seems comfortable or convenient to you!
Like I said before,it either both are lying or both are not saying the complete truth!

LoLz, so you have no date in mind and your unserious self is here talking nonsense? Do you know how many years Buhari had this your retrogressive mindset for and achieved nothing? If you can't read and comprehend at your age, i will not help you.
We have 21 APC Governors;
We have 12 PDP Governors;
We have 1 NNPP Governor;
We have 1 APGA Governor;
We have 1 LP Governor.

All of them have thrown their weights behind Mr President’ s popular decision to #KickOutSubsidy to #SaveTheEconomy
Dey there dey play. Who your respect help? You think i am here looking for respect or validation? What respect is remaining for those of you that shamelessly supported the failure Obi and used God's name to do it?
Bros, you are free to go on a personal strike. i am with you on it.

bentenny:
Whether there is an increase of wages or not,the price of commodities will still increase once there is a hint of subsidy removal!
Hence it will be illogical for anyone to think there should not be an increase in their wages at least to ensure that they are able to afford the basic necessities!
This is common sense which you are finding so hard to comprehend!
So they should bear the cost while their current salary gets eroded by the inflation of their essential needs?
Abeg use your head ohh

Ohh I have seen you nah....the great nairaland ancestor of the 5th order!
Nonsense!

Were we disputing the correctness of increase in wage or STRIKE? You probably need to eat, you are starting to be hazy in thought. i have consistently asked you for the practicality. WHO will increase wages, whose wages will be increased? We can't all strike needlessly, die needlessly, suffer more needlessly for FG workers including the presidency to have a 500% salary increase. We DON'T need a strike for that. Get the point. Any GenZ with access to internet could have been on internet and on NL as long as i have been. Don't get yourself into a fix over it.

ChybuzzDD:
Which of the God: Christian or Muslim God??

God.

bentenny:
Guy your tales by moonlight script is dead on arrival!
Any administration knows subsidy removal will instantly inflate prices of good and services hence the need to reach out to everyone according to their peculiar needs!
Salaries will definitely increase whether some states or private sector decide to increase theirs is left for unions to act on!
This epistle of image123 is getting stale!
Stop acting like you care about the masses!

There is no amount of 'reaching out" that will stop inflated price of goods and services. Any day pump price is increased or there is strike, inflation follows in Nigeria. A man that cares about the masses but is in a cocoon thinking school proprietors and contractors will increase minimum wage to 200k because of labour union. It seems you have never had working experience or you have never experienced poverty that's why you are in a bubble.
So states, LGs and private sectors are on their own for the increase, but they should all go on a needless headless strike ba? Schools, Universities, Hospitals, Factories, Restaurants, Banks etc should close down, people should die needlessly due to neglect and lack of services because Obi is not calling the shots. Nonsense. Strikes affect the poor people the most. Leave your ballon and go to a GHospital during a strike for example. All these Genz people that have only seen life on tiktok.

bentenny:
Stop being evasive or trying hard to be Clever by 3quarter!
Did the former minister of finance say budget for subsidy was made till the end of June?
Yes or no!
Which subsidy was used from January to may 2023 or were you the one that paid the subsidy?
If was president who was really elected by the same people I want to lead,I would first be doing what the FG is currently doing with organised labour and TUC and once all the conditions discussed have been ironed out and agreed on with an immediate implementation of such conditions, then subsidy will go as soon as possible!

You are the evasive one here. You have evaded my questions many times. Here they are again in bold. When is the time to remove subsidy if you were president? Any date in mind? As soon as possible is no date, Tinubu removed it also as soon as possible. Your uncle also said immediately from Day 1.
The former minister of finance was reported to have said budget for subsidy was made till the end of June. i said that already when i said there were many contradictory reports only. That is why Kyari CLARIFIED recently. It is on reuters also. Kyari said although there was provision for the subsidy in the 2023 budget up to June 30, there was no money to fund it.
From here again.

contrary to speculations, the immediate past government did not make provisions for petroleum subsidy in the 2023 budget.
“There was a subsidy in 2022, but in 2023, not a single naira was provided for the purpose of financing the subsidy."

There is a 2.8 trillion naira debt already on ground for this year subsidy.

Here's your friend the former minister of Finance telling us we are borrowing to pay subsidy.

She, however, said that the challenge was how to go about removing the subsidy.

“First, we have to engage. We have already engaged with the states and the public before it was approved as part of the medium-term plan.

January to May is debt UNPAID yet.

KnownUnknown:
Mealy mouth Bleep. Like I said earlier, you don’t get to present your usual shenanigans then pretend as if you didn’t. Are you sane now?

Try to make sense, sentences make sense. Don't tell me that you are high already. Do you know the meaning of shenanigans or you just heard it online and you started using it? i did not trick you in any way, you can re-read. i asked "Ever heard of how biography and autobiography works? ". You said that i called your allusion to a Bible passage an autobiography. You were the one who said something, i did not. Don't play with knives, they are sharp.

ChybuzzDD:
As long as Nigeria is concerned, don't make any promise to anymore based on any proposed/implemented policy.

No policy in Nigeria has ever yielded the expected result(s).

Experience will teach you better, when you realize petrol price will still be high in 2030.

This time, joy is coming. i feel strongly that God has at last heard our prayers for sensible leaders.

One very important thing to help is to know that subsidy is gone for good. Don't blame Tinubu or your village people. Endure, joy comes in the morning not some unserious Obikererenke lamba.

KnownUnknown:
you are not amongst your ilk so you shouldn’t try the usual disingenuous behavior and lies. He brings up biography and autobiography then claims that he didn’t. You mealy mouthed Bleep.
Psalms 14vwhatever is more nonsense that you fools quote as if the words of some ancient assholes are infallible. Talking about tantrums and spasms, your god is a perfect example.

i asked "Ever heard of how biography and autobiography works? ". You said that i called your allusion to a Bible passage an autobiography. Are you more sober now? Wash that face.

bentenny:
I guess when you pulled up that link you also forgot the one below where the former finance minister declared subsidy payment was made in the budget till the end of June,2023!




Its either the former minister of finance is lying or the NNPC boss is not saying the truth!
But let's assume without conceding that there was no provision for subsidy in the budget,so which subsidy was used from January to may?
Unfortunately, you are not a dentist or even a surgeon hence the careless speech to justify your points!
A surgeon knows that before an operation occurs,there is a medication procedure to ensure the patient doesn't feel much pain during the process just the same way a dentist will administer a local anaesthesia to reduce the pain around the tooth before removal!
Operating without laid down medical procedure will kill the patient!

Link:
www dot channelstv dot com/2023/01/04/fg-to-stop-payment-of-fuel-subsidy-by-end-of-june-2023/amp/

As usual, you didn't read to understand but to reply. You need to check up the meaning of the word "clarify". Clarification should help provide you some clarity. The former report didn't clarify but it was obvious in the report that money was being owed already.
There's no money to fund the budget. There's already a $6.1billion outstanding debt for subsidy. Or is the money in your account?

You clearly forgot to help out with this question, so here it is again. When is the time to remove subsidy if you were president? Any date in mind?

bentenny:
I humbly declined to answer your fruitless questions because they were unfortunately riddled with a hint of hypocrisy!
If you agree that Nigerians are now currently living below 50 cents due to the effect of subsidy removal, why then did you support the president's outright removal without first putting in place amelioration procedures to cushion the humongous effect on the same people you are trying to act sympathetic towards?
Please don't act all sentimental as if you care!
Without a threat of strike,the FG as usual would have left everyone to their fate while deciding when to provide palliatives or measures that can reduce the pain of an average Nigerian!

They were not fruitless or hypocritical but practical. i guess you just learned some adjectives so you had to release them without much thought. Here are practical questions you can't answer and keep your position.

1. Who's going to mandate that they be paid this 200k or 100k?
2. How many state governments have complied with the current 30k minimum wage?
3. How many people are going to get this minimum wage again? FG workers including political class. How many are they?
4. How many factory workers, typists, private school teachers, mechanics, receptionists, helps etc are being paid above 30k?
5. Who will increase their salaries or even collect the ones they are being owed?

5 questions that clearly show you that strike and the clamor for minimum wage increase are the real hypocrisy, waste of time and wickedness. BTW, i didn't agree to Nigerians living below 50cents. You said it, and i stated that both 50c and $1 are poverty.
Your political bias towards the loser Obi is very clear in your categorical assertions over a government that is barely 1week old. This is a government that has hinted on salary increase, subsidy removal, parallel FX, stopped health workers strike in just a week. It's a government with a plan. Kindly shelve your political sword and give the government a good chance to work. A good chance is at least 6months. Your wailings will of course change nothing but you and your ilk. BTW, the FG is still in the driver's seat deciding when to provide anything. The NLC and TUC obviously looked overwhelmed by the FG team in that meeting.

KnownUnknown:
You obviously haven’t heard of how biography or autobiography works otherwise you wouldn’t call that an autobiography. The vile hebrew who wrote psalm 14v1 was jerk and who’s more corrupt than a greedy Hebrew or the Europeans that call themselves Jews. Maybe the morons like you who place them on a pedestal. Regardless, you can think whatever you want in your heart or liver if you want. His god should have at least told him that the heart doesn’t think.

Do you see that you are not sober enough to see that i didn't call it anything?
Psalms 14v1 grade is not reversible except via repentance. Throwing tantrums and spasms will not help much.

KnownUnknown:
God was on his way then he got distracted by god who took him to a gathering of gods where god and god resolved their confiict. Then gods got drunk and cursed Canaan because he saw them naked.

It's coming.

bentenny:
A full blooded Nigerian!
Ohh you know 82 million Nigerians live on less than a dollar and yet you are asking that they endure a subsidy removal that will ultimately put them below 50 cents a day?
Nice job mate....U are so empathic!
That is left for the governors to decide!
Why are you taking panadol for another person's headache as if you even cared?
Guy no matter who benefits from it,the point is that there will be an increment which will ensure there is enough cash to stimulate the economy!

As is becoming your norm, you avoided all the questions and appealed to sentiments and emotions instead. People living below $1 or below 50cent is same poverty. Poverty has no twin brother. Of course, there should be increment of salary, how i wish every Nigerian salary can be increased all over the world. It remains a wish, different from a blackmail strike. A senseless strike against removal of subsidy doesn't work for any of those poor millions. Instead, they are the ones that will suffer lack of health care, education etc. that are hampered by strikes. Presidency will still receive their full salary. The heads of NLC will probably call of the strike after some days or weeks and perhaps after some increased bank balances. All the people who suffer the strike will not enjoy the fruit. Because subsidy is still GONE. FG plans to increase salaries anyway, strike or not. So why disrupt people's lives and play politics of strike when there are other medium of dialogue? When FG wins case in Industrial court for no work, no pay. What will you do? You'll pay Nigerians from your pocket?

bentenny:
Government is a continuum!
Whatever was done with the previous administration is carried over to the current one and besides they are of the same party!
It will be ridiculous and evasive to exonerate the current administration from the former!
Ofcourse there was an act which must be adhered to and it is also bound on the current administration to obey such which ends by june,2023!
There was a budget of over 3trillion for subsidy which expires on 30 june,2023 as stated by the former minister of finance!
This is well known and accessible online!
If you dont know make enquiries instead doing a guesswork just to expose your blind partisanship for the current administration!
I ask again do you need Obi's input on subsidy removal to validate that of your paymaster?
If you had a bad tooth and it had to go,does the dentist instantly remove or yanks off the affected tooth or does he/she apply a 'procedure' that ensures the pain reduces while pulling off the tooth? Your response will answer your last question/questions!

The same reports say that there's no money to fund the budget. There's already a $6.1billion outstanding debt for subsidy. Or is the money in your account?
In the words of Reuters

Kyari said although there was provision for the subsidy in the 2023 budget up to June 30, there was no money to fund it.

Unfortunately, you'll read different contradictions online as was characterized by the largely "unaware" Buhari administration so i cannot blindly and completely tie the current administration to the former.
You clearly forgot to help out with this question, so here it is again. When is the time to remove subsidy if you were president? Any date in mind? The best time for a dentist to remove a bad tooth or cancer is now. The careless patient can postpone and give excuses and promises.

KnownUnknown:
I wonder if Jesus and the devil noticed the narrator spying on them and frantically jotting in his notebook or “notescroll”:

Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And when He had fasted forty days and forty nights, afterward He was hungry. 3 Now when the tempter came to Him, he said, “If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread.”

4 But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”

5 Then the devil took Him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, 6 and said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down. For it is written:

‘He shall give His angels charge over you,’
and,

‘In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’ ”
7 Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not [a]tempt the Lord your God.’ ”

8 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.”

10 Then Jesus said to him, [b]“Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”

11 Then the devil left Him, and behold, angels came and ministered to Him.

SMH. Ever heard of how biography and autobiography works? You don't have to be a total jerk just because you are a Psalms 14v1 Grade fool.

FRANCISTOWN:
I'm up already, about to collect my money.

Elon Musk doesn't go around parading himself as an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent or omnibenevolent god who's all perfect and can never be wrong.

Elon is just a human like me and he's ruled by human desires and emotions.

Okay! That being said, god on the hand is a merciful father, is it not? wait for it.

Billions of people are calling on him, yeah?
Don't give me vague response, now tell me two areas where your god matters and you
will win this argument.

Exactly why you should see your irrelevance in making demands. Seeing you can't lace Musk's shoes, who is a mere and ruled human like you. You should be able to calculate that you don't make demands on the One who claims to be greater. You must have learned ratio and proportion in primary 4.
Billions of people are calling on God, that's the reality you have realized this morning. Thanks to God, don't mention me. Does it matter that billions of people are doing something?

KnownUnknown:
Not only a fleet of fiery chariots, he also has a whole stable of unicorns and a herd of capricorns. How can god have a cure for sanity when he is locked away in the insane asylum located in the Elysian Fields? His insanity is as high as battalion, forget about legion.
Anyway, you descendants of Ham have been relegated to field work in the kingdom of heaven. There is no hope in your reality.

Read through your posts when you're sober, help is on your way from God.

KnownUnknown:
Sorry, it’s not Abraham that lives in a mansion it’s Elijah. Elijah also has a fleet of fiery chariots and lives in a golden castle. What level of insanity are you attempting to gauge? Is god the highest level of this insanity?

Do you believe or you selectively believe? You seem to believe Elijah is alive and has a fleet of fiery chariots and lives in a golden castle or you don't? God has a cure to your insanity, it can't be as high as legion, right?

Billions of people profess a lot of nonsense but the large number doesn’t validate their delusions.

You are getting close to reality, there is hope.

KnownUnknown:
Comedy is your religion when it meets reality. Besides, the extortion racket set him up nicely and he now lives in a mansion made of solid gold.

Reality is that billions of people profess to believe in God, wake up. Besides, do you believe or you selectively believe? You seem to believe Abraham is alive and now lives in a mansion made of solid gold or you don't? Let's gauge the level of insanity here.

bentenny:
I am happy you for once admitted it was ill-advised or better still a premature announcement that has put the country in this state!
However, saying is the best decision is hilarious!
Everyone already knew subsidy was no longer sustainable and was definitely going by the end of June,hence praising the current president sounds funny!
More like taking credit for another person's decision!

And no Sir, you are absolutely wrong!
The appropriation act that was signed on 2021 made provision for subsidy until the end of June,2023!
You can confirm that on the internet!
Of course there should gave been a consultation on the removal of subsidy!
You can't just take it out instantly without putting in place an amelioration process that is meant to cushion the effect of the subsidy removal!
If the effect doesn't affect you,it will definitely affect millions of businesses and individuals who depend on PMS for their everyday life!
Stop being insensitive!


Do you really need the speech of the presidential candidate of LP to actually buttress or validate the president's need to remove subsidy?

At the risk of sounding like a broken record,everyone whether fully or grudgingly have accepted that subsidy is a scam and can't be sustainable hence the need for it to go!
What people are against is the outright removal without even providing a single process that can reduce the sufferings of Nigerians!
If you have a tooth ache and the affected tooth has to go,the dentist must first administer a drug that ensures the pain of the removal is reduced...an outright removal could cause severe pain to the point of death!

i clearly said it's not ill advised, please re-read. You are trying to say that the president doesn't have the power to continue subsidy? Did the previous administration ever postpone subsidy removal? If yes, does this administration have the power to remove it? So why are you making it seem like a law or constitution that the current government can do nothing about, yet turn to blame them for doing something about?
BTW, subsidy didn't go by the end of June, it left already. i clearly said there's no BUDGET or money for subsidy for this year. It has been taken out. There's no way or time that the removal will not have an effect, it's like a painful injection. On Obi, he also said he'll remove it from DAY 1. i don't need what he said, you do as his supporter.
Now help me out, when is the time to remove subsidy if you were president? Any date in mind?

KnownUnknown:
Lying can take you far. I once told Abraham to lie that his sister wasn’t his wife in order to p!mp her out to some wealthy fellas. Afterwards, my assistant threatened to kill the wealthy men unless they gave Abraham goats, sheep, and other things a greedy nomad would want.
We called these episodes The Immaculate Extortion.

Didn't take him very far if your reading and comprehension didn't fail you so miserably. You think making comedy will aid your escape from reality? No, reality is waiting patiently.

bentenny:
The minimum wage is for both public and private enterprise!
It also cascades to the Federal and state plus LGA!
Its supposed to be for everyone!

SMH. Supposed to. Are you a Nigerian at all? Are you aware that more than 82 million Nigerians live on less than $1 a day? In other words, they don't have up to 30,000naira a month. Who's going to mandate that they be paid this 200k or 100k? How many state governments have complied with the current 30k minimum wage? Again, How many people are going to get this minimum wage again? FG workers including political class. How many are they? How many factory workers, typists, private school teachers, mechanics, receptionists, helps etc are being paid above 30k? Who will increase their salaries or even collect the ones they are being owed? Tinubu or NLC?

FRANCISTOWN:
When you say people don't matter,
I just laugh within me.
See, everybody matters.
People may not matter to you,
but they certainly matter to others.

Saying people do not really matter
is a very unwise statement, they have
relatives, they have landlords who they
pay rents. They work for someone
they may feed or being fed by someone.

But where does your God matter?
Amputees? He can't do shit.
Cancer? Still can't do shit
Famine ? Can't do shit
Natural disasters? Can't do shit
I could go on and on.
Now tell me one area where your
god matters?

Oops, that seems to have touched you the wrong way i didn't mean to. i don't say/mean that you don't matter in life or to people. i meant that in the scheme of making demands on God/Jesus, you don't matter because you are less than a pawn. Actually, we all are/were if that helps you.
In the reality/context of the "story", we're the ones that need God. It's like you making demands on say Elon Musk without being employed by him or paying him. You need the job/money, you submit to his requirements and offer. Of course, being a Ps 14 grade fool,you don't understand the reality/context and expect to be convinced in this case "why you should even work or be paid. SMH.

God matters in eternity, you'll wish you knew Him. God matters for billions of people all over the world who believe and are believing Him. They pray to God every other second, wake up.

FRANCISTOWN:
Go and study the Odu Ifa and you'll
see the appointment letters from Orunmila,
Ajala Mori, Obatala, Ajalagere, Aronimaja,
Ajaniworan and others.

Of all reasonable things to believe in
life. Me, I'll believe in the Bible? A book
of fairy tales written to amuse kids 🤣🤣🤣

Get your acts together, i didn't ask you to believe in the Bible, i asked if you have one. Don't get overexcited, i am not your long lost love. What is Odu Ifa?

KnownUnknown:
You get your genealogy wrong child because I’m the father of the devil.

Be smart and reasonable, lying takes you nowhere.

KnownUnknown:
I’m approximately 130 years old give or take 10 years.

You must be full of lies like your father the devil.

KnownUnknown:
Last Thursday.

Are you less than 13years old?

bentenny:
See whether you like it or not subsidy removal will ultimately inflate prices of goods and services whether we increase minimum wage or not!
Its inevitable!
However,in other for cash to flow in the system and possibly give the economy a slight lift, the FG needs willing spenders and that can only occur when there is an increase in the salary of a worker!
Its that simple!
As for the amount that they will arrive at,my speculation is between 100k to 120k but it will reduce based on the GL of the worker!

How many people are going to get this minimum wage again? FG workers including political class. How many are they?