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HellVictorinho:
How can that help when there's no data to watch it??

Here's the summary.
1Pe 5:7 KJV Casting all your care upon him; for he careth for you.

It's the safest known, most guaranteed way out of your predicament.

HellVictorinho:
Life is absurd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVh9PeDaENc

HellVictorinho:
Are you in my head?


I said I don't think about what God can do or will do anymore

Ecc 9:4 KJV For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion.

Pelecius:
Now, your analogy just show your desperation in convincing yourself that I must be wrong.

Lol, not exactly though. He's not here to convince himself, he's here to convince you. His duty here is to sow doubts in your mind and make you think God is not that wise after all, just like Eden.

HellVictorinho:
Whatever that is supposed to mean

I know how I feel

But nobody has been able to explain how Jesus is related to anything


When I asked God to intervene in my family issues some years ago

It only got worse


Now I have questioned God out of my head

Errmmm, He's God remember, not your remote control. He's Sovereign.

1Sharon:
You want to pretend like Jesus and God have the same personality?

They are both God, welcome to life.

1Sharon:
Can't your god come and fight for himself?

He's coming, wait for it. Revelation 19 that is.

HellVictorinho:
Someone either convinced or encouraged or motivated him or something like that to find another person(Jesus) whose existence as the savior of humanity is only accounted for in a book that makes no sense to LordReed as he calls it a jumbo.


What else

Hello Victor, how are you feeling today. Jesus Christ still loves you too.

LordReed:
Where in what you screenshot did you mention divine nature? You wrote being and attributes, we now come to where his being and attributes have changed then you now introduce divine nature because the Jesus humanity clearly shows that this so called unchanging god actually changed according to your previous definition.

How have I shifted ground? It was you brought up the Jesus humanity not me. I asked you for places where the god's unchanging nature was mentioned and you listed verses. I treat what you wrote and then you start accusing me of shifting ground, that's so hilarious. May be next time don't write what you know will introduce holes to what you are saying.




You analogy does not correspond because according to you the one of the attributes of the god is agelessness and immortality, if Jesus aged and died then this was more than just adding a new part to an existing system. It will be more akin to removing the body of a brand new Mercedes sedan and replacing it with beat up old Volkswagen Beetle and then claiming no change occurred to the Mercedes when quite plainly you are no more looking at a Mercedes.

Adding humanity enabled him to negate at least 2 of his previous attributes but somehow to you it is not change and I am the one with the cognitive dissonance. LMAO!



I am quite willing to be proved wrong, you have not done so. I asked you what you meant by unchanging you pointed to ageless and immortal then also pointed to a place where he aged and died, you proved yourself wrong not me.

Maybe i'm not that experienced sha, but i've never seen anyone find Jesus this way. Maybe you'll be a first , who knows? Keep seeking all day.

LordReed:
It's cognitive dissonance plus being afraid to open that door, they can feel their faith quaking.

How on earth can someone with a living relationship with Jesus Christ have his faith quaking because you don't believe there's God? When will you realize that the man with an experience is not at the mercy of the man with a mere argument?

hahn:
With no tangible solution to any of the world's problems

Lol, saving souls and families, directing us to a glorious eternity. What more do you want? It comes with a complete package, do you need it to literally fly?

HardMirror:
The human male that thinks himself better than an animal, has lost his pride. He is a weakling; he seeks pity and want to procreate his weak genes. What a shame !

The Bible is fresher than tomorrow's newspaper. Jesus!

wirinet:
So it is possible to kill Your God.

Many other God's are said to be eternal - they were not created and cannot be killed. Not that I believe them though, but their own God makes more sense than yours that was killed by mere mortals.

Certainly, don't forget that He resurrected. Your more sense is selective i suppose, or they make more sense in every way?

wirinet:
Absolutely. I can conclude I don't know it's existence.

But can you conclude that it doesn't live forever, whatever your meaning of forever is.

wirinet:
All things are not possible (like nothing physical can travel faster than the speed of light), else the universe would be in a permanent state of chaos.


That itself is blasphemous, you cannot kill a God that created life and existence. It's sounds ridiculous.

i said "with God". With God, your impossibilities are possible.
Do you have an example of a God or have knowledge of one to know this as blasphemous or you are just relying on your auditory organs?

wirinet:
We both reason in diametrically opposite directions. You reason with absolute certainty of the religious mind that uses the God of the gaps to explain everything. I reason scientifically and logically, with the understanding that nothing is absolutely and everything is relative. Forever itself is a relative term, it depends on the time frames you are comparing.

So it is scientific and logical to conclude on what you don't know it's existence?

wirinet:
Without using your indoctrinated mind instead of your reasoning mind, such statement is senseless. The four personalities (man/God/Son of God/Son of man) are mutually exclusive.

We God, all things are possible as seen biblically in the life of Jesus. It is part of why Jesus Christ was hated and killed. His declaration and person was senselessly blasphemous to the learned.

wirinet:
I did not read mischievously. It our difference in the understanding of the word neighbouring. To me neighbouring planets are planets in our solar system, just as neighbours are people on or street or immediate vicinity. A person living in a different country cannot be said to be my neighbour. A planet 50 light years away in my definition cannot be said to be a neighbouring planet.
Having said that, it is highly probable that life exists in some planets in other star systems in the galaxy.

The word "even" used in my statement was clear comparative. You didn't limit it to the solar system when you said "Nothing lives for ever". i was the one bringing you closer home that people have not finished concluding the life in our solar system. How did you now conclude about all life in the universe as dying? You concluded on what you don't know the existence.

wirinet:
Ok. Who is Jesus? Is he a man/God/son of god\son of man?

To me Jesus is not different from any superhero created to impress converts. Just like Hercules or Samson, Achilles, Odysseus, Thor, Songo, etc. He might have been a real person, but his followers put extraordinary embellishments in order to make him superhuman.

i wasn't asking you who Jesus is to you, i was asking if you are not the one being deceived? Jesus is man/God/Son of God/Son of man. It's all in the bible. He's everything to me actually.

wirinet:
You said neighbouring planets . Are planets outside the solar system neighbouring planets?

No. It is you that have searched the entire solar system and found life. Researchers have not found life.

If i have not known you for years, i will say you read mischievously. However, read what i said carefully, i mentioned that "even" researchers have not concluded that there is no life in neighbouring planets, but you affirmed for the whole universe from your bedroom.

LordReed:
Don't waste your time, not worth the effort.

Lol, i love this testimony. May the devil and his agents give up and be frustrated about all true servants of God. You see, i actually advised him to speak to you. Let's hope he listens, because it seems these new breed of religion urchins no dey listen.

Olaolufred:
My advice to you too is to go study the true word of God.

Give your life to Christ.

So that you and I will be able to inherit the kingdom of God.

Jesus is coming again. Either by individual's death or rapture.

Without salvation, all burning of fuel from Surulere, Apapa, Mushin, Ketu to Canaan land is a waste of life.

What shall it profit a man, if he gains the whole world and lose his soul?

Jesus told us to preach the word. You have read it.

You may use bold face today, but Christ will one day arrest you the same way he did to Saul on the road to Damascus.

When the scale has fallen of, you will see it the way it is.

Shalom.

Beware of the Pharisees and Sadducees, keep that warning like it's the Word of God.

Pelecius:
You are more brilliant than the gymnastics you are about to play on his behalf.

Serpents are wise and subtle, don't lose guard. It's like father like son.

LordReed:
What gymnastics? When people say god does not change are they referring to him changing his being or him changing his mind?

The one attempting gymnastics here is you.

Of course, it's not a reference to His mind. The same Bible refers to Him changing His mind, remember? He's the same yesterday, today and forever in His nature, power, position and holiness.

LordReed:
I am not arguing for Workch, I am stating my position as an atheist as a counter to your assertion in which you tried to lump all atheists together.

It's a reaping of your vain attempts to lump gods with God.

Olaolufred:
Jesus himself knows this title is not a sin against him.

Was Jesus A Failure Because Many Of His Disciples Left Him And Few Stayed?

How is this sensitive?

What made it sensitive?

NOTE:

The real problems is that the prophetic blessings and give and take messages has made many to be claiming Christians without "true" Bible knowledge or truths.

Let us do a bit of Bible Study of John 6: 48-70.

I know "winners" use the verses to take "communion". In contest, they needed verse 48-59 to prove that communion is eaten for life (healing of the body). Though there is an epidemic of the sickness of the spirit, because of eating the wrong food (polluted word of God).

Body of Christ and his flesh are to be taken as a remembrance of the spiritual connection every truly-born again Christian (carrying his cross daily) have with the man who gave all for our salvation on the cross of Calvary. This thing is not supposed to be what tom, dick and harry jumps at. It must only be done understanding the true value of the cross.
Which eternal life is in a fornicator that is leading praise and worship on the altar of the big church?. What eternal life are we remembering? The one we don't even know?

Reducing it to healing of the body that is going to fizzle in few years (60-100, or less) is heresy.
We know that healing can happen by faith in Jesus Christ, but not because of the communion, but Jesus and faith in him.
So, the eternal life communion brings is that indept spiritual understanding of the price paid on the cross that keeps you in that relationship with Christ till the day of his coming. This is where multitudes are lacking.

If Jesus showed up today to tell them in that big auditorium that his death is not for the meaning they are giving it, they will stone him.

How many messages do they even preach about this eternal life? You hear Eternal life when it is read in the bible on the road to making another points that is not dealing with eternal life. That is how bad it is. Important tenets of Jesus teachings relegated to passive reading.

IT WAS A HARD TEACHING THEN. But do you know that it is no longer a hard teaching today because it has been reduced to a bodily healing meal that every unrepentant sinners can take for healing.

Many who found the true teaching of Christ hard went away from him. and he asked his disciples, won't you go away too? (vs 67)
Peter answered in a captivating way (Vs 68-69). Simon Peter answered him, “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and to know that you are the Holy One of God.”

So from this passage, how is the topic sensitive?

It will only be sensitive to those who truly don't know Christ Jesus.

It will only be sensitive to those who truly don't know the word of God.

It will only be sensitive to the Church-going almanjiris who fights for their own God (Jesus is happy with Jesusjnr anyway).

I know that anytime they use the passage to eat and drink the blood, it is always from verse 48-58. No member cares to ask more questions that will make them hunger for more truths about the whole John Chapter 6.

IF CHRIST COMES TO THAT AUDITORIUM TO TELL THEM THEY ARE TAKING IN HERESIES, THEY WILL STONE HIM FOR CONTRADICTING PAPA.

Jesusjnr, continue to serve the master in truth and in HOLINESS, without which no man shall see the LORD.

Quite a long talk for such a "sensitive" short alarm. My advice to you is to focus on Jesus Christ and stop your seeming obsession with "winners". Chasing shadows don't help the Christian.

jesusjnr2020:
That's why I said it's only the spiritually blind as the false disciples that won't be able to comprehend the spiritual importance of this message and the purpose of the title.

You should try and understand that the fact that you're many, doesn't mean that you're everyone else as you're deceived to think, because there are yet few that are spiritually sound as the disciples of Jesus that remained.

Even on this thread, you'd see that your idea that you're everyone has been proven false.

I told you that if Jesus were here you'd do the same to Him because you're carnally minded and reason no differently from those of the world.

Next time, don't try to judge things that transcend beyond the scope of your level of understanding, so you don't start what you can't finish.

As for the mod, I don't know what you're speaking of, except it's your fellow carnally-minded person, who came here to speak blindly as you did, who I mentioned just twice so she could see what she was too blind to see, for her own good.

jesusjnr2020:
So, how did that now translate into your idea that this thread was created based on the 40?

That's must be your imagination fabricating things not what I said.

Of course, it must be my imagination. Just that everyone else on the thread knows and has the same imagination, plus you've been shamelessly calling on the mod to read about the man that sacked the imaginable. Like i said, maybe i should beseech, let's not even start. You need to enjoy don't you think?

wirinet:
Researchers don't rely on God of the Gaps to explain the unknown. They rely on real data from their researches.

Life has not be found on any neighbouring planet. The possibility of any other planet in our solar system harbouring life is extremely remote, as all other planets are outside the habitable zone ( the zone where water can exist in all 3 states).

Forever is a meaningless term. Nothing can exist forever. The whole universe itself will collapse someday.

And there's nothing outside your solar system right? You've searched our solar system completely right?

wirinet:
What makes you think that you are not the one being deceived?

Ever asked yourself that question sincerely? For me, it's a Who not a what. Jesus is the Who.

byinks:
Sir, I really hope you're right and she's wrong

What she is saying is not the gospel, neither is it found in the Bible. Jesus Christ doesn't tell tales about 5G.
Live your life prepared for the coming of the Lord, don't live in fear, take precautions against disease and rejoice in the Lord always.