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petra1:
True word



Power doesn't come through fasting
power comes by being filled with the Holy spirit

Acts 1:8 (KJV)
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Jo, you have come against abi? There are different types and levels of power. You even receive power by receiving Jesus according to John 1v12 so don't worry, i know what i refer to. Just stay on your lane or learn.

Mat 17:21 KJV Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Luk 4:6 KJV And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them: for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it.

Colehn1800:
Learn about Scientific Method,
How scientific theories are approved and also learn about critical thinking.

What scientific method makes one say that a piece of bone is 70million years old, ate bread and tea and was killed by herdsmen?

BeLookingIDIOT:
...but,you would have believed if stone age goat herders,like the ones who wrote your bible,had told you so
"Okay, so the name "science" makes it logical"– Go check out what science entails.
A myriad of methods exists which they use in dating these fossils e.g radiometric dating.

Nope, you are equivocating. Stand well well and explain logically how a piece of bone is found to be 70million years, loved bread and tea and was killed by herdmen. Is it dating that says all these? Can you logically explain how?

richmond500:
the same way they can tell how a foetus is 8days old, 7weeks old and 5months old and they are 98% accurate

Lol, definitely not the same way. Except "same" has a new meaning. You are throwing a strawman it seems.

Hammyaladin:
Keep quiet!! Listen to your self. If so much hate science, you can throw your phone, get yourself some loin cloths and go into wilderness. Religion is not ultimate. God more scientific than been religious. Take a look @ his creation!!!!!!!! Does it look like something tied to praise and worship

Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt.

Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

Be wise.

NewSoul:
I know some people here have done 21 days on just water alone. I'm being led to undertake one (first 3 days dry and the remaining 18 days on just water only). I'm not fat, I weigh 62KG at 5ft 8 inches. I just need anyone with experience to brief me.

And please I'm not doing this to chase clout or showoff, many things are not going well at the moment for me, It seems I'm just hovering about at a spot in life, like I need solution and a blueprint for my life from God. Thank you

You don't need to punish yourself for physical things. If you need spiritual power, fine. But if it's poverty or joblessness, this is not what you need to do. In fact, this is not what you need to do at all. Know God first.

HardMirror:
lol! yeah, i am a "bad" guy, but i an never dishonest. i did not lose because of dishonesty per se, i am a risk taker. that aside, porn and masturbation aint bad things. go figure. i would choose being an atheist over deceiving myself as a christian believing in a made up god.
you dont have to be an atheist like myself, you can be honest, you can choose not to masturbate and watch porn, you can choose not to be a gambler, these "bad" habits dont come with atheism... you grab?.

Lol, just like Adam, man keeps making the same mistake. He didn't do wrong, he has a reason and of course, others are at fault and worse. You need the Lord Jesus. All things become new.

BeLookingIDIOT:
It's called science.
Simply answer the question and stop fooling around. Your kind would have been the one to scream impossible and absurd when they hear that people at the same time could talk to one another thousands of miles apart.

Okay, so the name "science" makes it logical. Interesting. Well, i don't find that enough for this bone to be 70million years old, know it's best food and the herdsman that killed it. Very similar to some people giving God as an explanation for everything they don't know.
Why is this here? God.
Why is this here? Science.

Do better my intelligent fella.

HardMirror:
so tell me why are you still a christian?

i am still a christian for many reasons but i will just state few. Because since i became a christian, my life took a dramatic change for the better. i became free and full of the love for others, freedom from uncontrollable anger and seething, unspeakable joy, bubbling peace, light and life from reading the Word of God, incredible fellowship with fellow children of sin, deliverance from guilt and forgiveness with God, a conscience void of offence towards God and fellow men, a succourer to many under the shackle of fear, freedom from many issues that sinners face as a result of sin etc.

HardMirror:
as ridiculous as this seems, you are actually right, pride is a factor. the Japanese hold the record for suicides and they are very proud (not arrogant though). i realized that i am also proud and would rather commit suicide than go though some situations. people i know to have committed suicide also showed signs of pride too. having a high sense of dignity actually contributes to suicide for real

Pride goes before a fall literally. Pride is satanic.

kingxsamz:
Oh, but you believe that man was made from dust and woman made from bone. But na 70 million years dey choke you.
Kids, Learn not to be like this adult here who sits in his parlour to decide which Archaeologist is lying and which one is telling the truth

Confused Samuel, are you reading me today? You keep feeling proud of not reading me
Belief is supernatural, are your findings supernatural? Always think carefully before talking.

BeLookingIDIOT:
Can you simply provide a logical explanation of exactly why you find an unearthed bone 70 million years aged absurd?

After you. Provide a logical explanation of exactly why you find this bone to be 70million years old, know it's best food and the herdsman that killed it.

HardMirror:
chai! these guys just keep wishing evil things befall Atheists

i do not wish you or anyone else evil. The word "maybe" is a mere possibility or probability, not a wish. i believe you understand english to that point. It has not been proven otherwise. Sinners are not far from trouble like you have shown. Who knows maybe he's even the one you put in trouble. Anyway, welcome back. You seem more matured by life's experiences in your current interactions. Keep it up and better.

kingxsamz:
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When the research challenges their belief, they call it lies. But when it aligns, they agree that it's true. These are the same archeologists you people call liars o. Make una tell una sef the truth for once.

Research findings is different from silly unprovable theories and speculations. One day, Samuel will have sense in Jesus name.
"the discovery proves the ancient city of Jerusalem was surrounded by an impressive, fortified wall." They unearthed material in square meters. No need for private propaganda. When you unearth a bone, no one has a problem with it.The problem arises when you begin to scope us that this tiny bone is 70million years old, it's best food was bread and tea and it died of herdsman crises. Receive sense dear.

kingxsamz:
Wait, I want to ask you something.
So if out of all your family members and friends, only you makes it to heaven, you'd be in heaven rejoicing and dancing knowing fully well that all the people you ever loved through out your life are being tortured gruesomely in the most unpleasant manner? So you'd live such life in happiness forever with the thought that your loved ones are suffering? Really? That's messed up.

Do you ever think before you talk? Do you know the meaning and implication of "all the people you ever loved through out your life"? Do you know that true Christians have thousands of people you ever loved through out your life. Sorry, we are not alone like you, we are surrounded by a cloud of brethren. Our conversation is in Heaven.

kingxsamz:
Most of them don't have tolerance.
The Muslims will kill and terrorize you for criticizing Islam, while the Christians will fantasize about the Muslims terrorizing you for criticizing Christianity.
Religion breeds people to have terrorists mindsets, lowkey.

You that has tolerance already promised not to tolerate religion for your unborn kids. Stop fooling around Samuel.

kingxsamz:
Lol, how much of your Salary does he collect as tithe from you?

Think my man Samuel, don't you know the basic thing like tithe is ten percent? BTW, people don't influence lives for money only, cure yourself of this myopic mindset.

kingxsamz:
Long story short.
All you have said is, you guys would be robots in your heaven, your memory wiped off and your loved ones forgotten. That's not a place any reasonable person would want to be while others are being tortured.
It's like a horror movie sef.
People dressed in white in a gathering, worshipping some invisible being who feeds off their worship for unknown reasons, while in another section, kids, men and women are being burnt and ripped to pieces by disgusting beings. Omo, you guys are messed up. My kids won't get to be taught such rubbish. Good day.

You're free to stay in the another section, Samuel. Even your mom no go count you as pikin for yonder. See him asking for freedom but vowing no freedom for his future children. Hypocrite.

Judolisco:
I don't have any problem with numbers... I'm an usher at my local church and we count every Sunday... My problem is sacking them after a year considering the pandemic, some were sent to Christian dominated areas like ekiti or benue I served in ekiti there's nothing u can do that people will leave their cac, Catholic, seven days, Anglican and come to winners except u are sharing food every Sunday... Even wen we did nysc rural rugged they were reluctant to come out until we started sharing things and giving free medical check up and drugs... Bishop made mention of fruitfulness.. Luke 13 talked about a master that wanted to destroy his vineyard after 3 Yrs of lack of productivity, but the servant asked him to be patient for one more year so he can tender it and if it still remains d same it can cut it off... Patience
It's God that increases it's church no amount of evangelism can bring people 1 Corinthians 3:6

Seems we are comparing apples and oranges here. A parable for one is not taken literally. You don't need 3 literal years to sack a non performer. They are not sacked from the kingdom of God or from church or from the earth. From the news, about 7000 local churches were established. If 40 or so are not performing and are "blatant failures" like was described, there is no need to tie them down there. Let others try, it is not personal property or government tenure where you leave non-performer and even vote them in again. God commands His children to go and evangelise. If it was useless like you imply, i am certain God will not command it. Churches record new converts and new members everywhere there is life and the true gospel preached.

HedwigesMaduro:
Ok. He counted them. And you read...where... he said those were souls won?

Yep, read Acts 2.

byinks:
Give your cogent reasons why ?

Jesus does not talk like this, simple. Anyone who you know, you will recognise when he/she is speaking. There is no need for "cogent" reasons for you not to know that it's not your mum speaking to you on phone.

Judolisco:
u did not answer my question.. At that time there was only one church... D disciples were still 2geda... If I go out for soul winning and God converted someone through me can't d person go to another church?

It is not a forced thing for CONVERTS to be in one particular denomination. It is however important for converts to be in a Bible believing church for proper growth and nourishment. The early disciples gathered together and they were numbered and increased as shown. Do you have a problem with the numbering or the increase?

Judolisco:
when u go out for evangelism are looking to win souls to Christ or lure souls to your church? D number of people in your church doesn't mean all of them are born again.. Some people followed jesus for food

Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. 2:42 And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. 2:46 And they, continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, 2:47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.

darealbabe:
Lol. You wouldn't keep blatant failures. What an intelligent declaration that tells the true nature of you and your god.

Good to hear that.

Judolisco:
my question exactly

Read up Acts 2 and learn how.

darealbabe:
Nobody is a blatant failure. Nobody is a failure!

If the most important resources are available, anyone can be successful with time. That is anyone who so cares to be whatever you call successful.

When you say don't remain as you are, what do you even mean?

Don't remain as you are is that, you can learn to wear the mask of a 'serious Christian' but it is okay to be an entirely different and questionable personality behind the scene? ...just wear the mask so that we can boast that our 'god' has changed you and is working through you. What a miraculous wonder!

Infact please educate me, WHO IS A BLATANT FAILURE?

Why do you have to wear a mask when you can be a serious/genuine Christian.
Oyedepo said they are blatant failures, we should be asking him. i wouldn't keep a blatant failure though. They can come and meet you, you seem to have the patience required for blatant failure.

ensamy:
Thank you very much. Bishop Oyedepo was supposed to turn them to be profitable servant no matter how bad there are. God doesn't give up on his servants. That's why Jesus is the Good sherpherd he never gives up on anyone.

Lol, they are not sacked from the kingdom of God or from the church, are they? They are replaced. They can go ahead and improve. Jesus replaced many people in the Bible.

Angelawhite:
My brother, this your question will remain unanswered for a very long time

It's there in Acts 2.

darealbabe:
Everything he wrote corroborates the accusations from those sacked pastors.

And I'm ashamed that this man is lying! Gosh!

You wrote in details about money and said nothing about 'souls' and you still claim it was not about money? This man must think he is talking to dunces!

You tell people to come as they are, but see you literally calling your pastors failures! Rubbish.

Come as you are, but don't remain as you are. Why should anyone remain a blatant failure?

HedwigesMaduro:
How do they quantify how many souls won? By the number of people in the church?

It's a good human benchmark. Are souls not people? Did Jesus Christ not count people present?

They no go hear oh, itching ears have already heard what they want to hear. No room for blatant failure.

HedwigesMaduro:
So, which fruits are you expected to bear? Mangoes and oranges?

Asides the fruit of the Spirit, God says to us right from Genesis to be fruitful and multiply. Just a cursory look at the NT, it tells us to bear fruit meet for repentance, good fruit, fruit after our kind Luke 6v34, fruit of understanding and maturity(Matt 13v23), fruit of the kingdom(Matthew 21v43), fruit of the Word of God as seen in the parable of the sower, fruit of the womb, fruit of eternal life, fruit from going out after ordination, fruit of Christlikeness, fruit of working among others Romans 1v13, fruit unto holiness, fruit of the vineyard 1Cor 9v7, fruit of our labour, fruit of all goodness, fruitfulness in every good work, fruit of the earth, and of course the fruit of the tree of life bearing twelve manner of fruits.
Making disciples of all men is a mandate for fruit bearing. The early Christians didn't just sit in Galilee bearing fruit of the Spirit. Grow up please.