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MaxInDHouse:
When it comes to reasoning nobody needs it for anything whatsoever other than to cohabit peacefully with our fellowman, that's why beasts don't reason since all they do is eat, mate and sleep.
Of course believers are a million times better as in far much better than atheists, the most intelligent atheist is a fool where a true believer stands. But since disguised atheists claiming believers has complicated issues you guys base your statistics on your fellow atheists deceiving themselves claiming believers!

I'm not an atheist. And the point of my comment is that a "foolish atheist" is faar better than anybody that is an adherant to any religious group from birth and does not question his doctrines and compare them with others is a child telling you that his mother prepares the best soup in the whole universe without even tasting his neighbour's food. And I place in high regard atheist people born chirstians and became muslims vise virsa

Heard that my grand father married a marmaid, that when she is around nobody expect him can see her. He was a sailor tho, and any ship he enters never had any single issue at sea. That he said if you enter the marine world, its very beautiful and if you look up its like looking at the sky, is it true? Made the man wealthy, but it kinda ended with him. Funny thing is the man gave birth to religious fanatics. chnbanc

They are still better than most of you, that remain in the religion of their birth without even, questioning the religion with the views of other religions. You people are just a typical case of: "na my mama soup sweet pass" without tasting your neighbour's soup.

Watin Tinubu do na see finish. He should have just been the respected king maker that he was, than comming out, he just demystified himself. Sotay people are calling him druggie. HE P.O would have gone to his house to have "consultations on nation building"(no insults intended)

A serious government would encourage this manufacturer by ensuring that all parastals have this car. This would further encourage private individuals to buy the brand. Competition would slowly creep in, government would then increase tarrif on imported cars. Competition would make local car manufacturers to start improving, our locally produced cars would start becoming export materials our GDP improves and all its multiplier effects.

FxMasterz:
Yes, since we don't know the force that gave the heavenly bodies their movement, we cannot dismiss the force that created the force. For instance, science says that gravity is created by energy momentum density, which is related to mass and its motion. That's clear.

Now, what force is moving the heavenly bodies? What is the source or the creator of that force?

If I get your analogy right, you're trying to prove that since we don't know the force that moves the universe, then a being can come to existence without a creator. Since the universe has a program/push/force/energy. Then the creator can't have all that power without a source of energy/push/force on its own accord. Since we all first agreed that: nothing can move on its accord, without something driving it.

FxMasterz:
Now, up till today, nobody knows.

That challenges us a lot. It means our logic is fallible because we believe that nothing can move without a force. Should we now say that since nobody knows what move the heavenly bodies, that means heavenly bodies are not moving. Scientists are liars? If we can believe the scientists to be speaking the truth, then our logic should go this way:

Since the heavenly bodies move without us knowing what's moving them. Something can exist without us knowing who created it.

If they can move without a force, then God can exist without a creator.

We need to conclude that there are mysteries beyond our reasoning capacity. Our logic is flawed because it is governed by our past experiences. But the universe does not submit to our experiences. Our experiences tell us that nothing can move without a force, now what do w

exactly since we don't know that force that gave God force, we can't dismiss the creator of the creator.

BlackkPegasus:
who tha Bleep is jeff?

Sorry, I used to have a friend(Jeffery) that goes by the same Pesudo: black pegasus, I thought it was him.

BATified2023:
if his village is in darkness for his 8 years of governance how will he improve d welfare of other peoples village when hes yet to do that of his village?

It’s like u igbos don’t like developing your home but will always want to develop other peoples home

U developed d world but your region is in shambles,u are telling us peter obi will turn Nigeria to dubai but his village no get light

oga jot down the following:
i. I am not ibo.
ii. Not every Obi supporter is ibo.
iii. Wike is hated by other tribes in Rivers State because he is only building roads in Ikwerre communites. And that mentality of I must do for my people first, is why we have agitations by minority groups. And in english its called nepotism.

FxMasterz:
Now, the heavenly bodies are constantly moving. Do you know the force moving them?

No

Evilblackman:
Yes a car can move without any external control example tesla
Haven’t you heard of programming?

I get you are trying to say We humans need something to make us move and other actions

If you understand self consciousness and vulnerability you know not all things need an external force

Now my own question is if everything needs something to make them move according to your question, then why is God different?

I hope you understand the question

Boss you rush fast, I wan follow am slowly i been suspect say na there e dy go. I want make e cary e own gun shoot im leg.

FxMasterz:
This question is for you and imiski:
Can anything move without anything driving it?
This question above would systematically lead to the answer you're seeking.
I'll be waiting for your answer.

Sure! there must be a force pushing it.

lhordspy:
Rallies 100 people across 12 states.

Mathematically, that will generate only 1200 votes

national census comission i hail you sah. Na you be statistics.

If his village had steady power supply, you would scream nepotism, he use government funds for selfish purpose while in government. Is Obi incharge of electricity? The other day Legislators had to call it a day because of power failure, you should as well blame Obi.

If his village had steady power supply, you would scream nepotism, he use government funds for selfish purpose. Is Obi incharge of electricity?

Oga I'm currently in the South East and there is no agog here. Why do Ibos like agbada I thought belongs to "Afonja's" and the "uncircumsied people".

Dtruthspeaker:
Which all ends after their lie is bursted and blown and then the dying begins."shake,shake"

I no want.



My Wise Friend always tells me that living is not a problem but Dying is the problem

my people we meet again LOL

Evilblackman:
No matter how we dread it , its our past and our future
No one has an answer to how the earth was created but I’m very sure its not the bible or other holy books

All holy books so far aviod that question. Maybe it would be among the mystries.

Heroicvic:
You need to see how they were dealth with today... I think you're one of them

I'm not a cultist, but believe me if you grew up in very rough areas espically where no force man be you who dares enter, you will learn how to relate with them and not be bullied. That is why I told you to learn to be street smart. Not everybody has money to call police.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is how dumb his question is also.

oga his "dumb question" has created phlilosphers, theist, atheist, agnostics. Stop trying to defend what you don't know, simply pass or go and research more.

Evilblackman:
I was on the internet doing my research about [/b]why God can’t show himself[b]

And i came across this question and article
Who created God ?

We ask, "If all things have a creator, then who created God?" Actually, only created things have a creator, so it's improper to lump God with his creation. God has revealed himself to us in the Bible as having always existed. Atheists counter that there is no reason to assume the universe was created.


, although I’ve been thinking about this same question , when i ask I don’t get any answers back.

I remenberd asking my dad this question, as a child and he told me that: "maybe in God's kindom we would know". Even atheist theory of the big bang does no justice to the topic since, the volcano like bang could have aslo had a begininng/creation. So I Just came with my own conclusion that: as far as it has nothing to do with where I would lay my head or what I would wear or eat. Not my bussiness.

Dtruthspeaker:
Can your phone or car or even bed
or pot know who manufactured you?

The most dumbest answer in the history of dumb answers.

In Tinubu's Lagos? Unpossible!!

BlackkPegasus:
she means she has PERMANENT HEAD DAMAGE

Jeff?

In english: over familiarity breeds contempt. In pigin: see finish

Heroicvic:
Their lives isn't anything to write home about
I'm not interested thanks

your answer shows that your not street smart. That is why you got beat up and will collect again, police/army is not always the answer, (the police way u call go still go, and their cartel still dy the street way you dey) and the people you call police for dey learn cultism, if you call police for marine base boys for p.h you go know say diff dey between six and half a dozen. Learn to be street smart.

faithsurvey:
And Yoruba people have a proverb:

"A boy who has never get to another man's farm will think that his father has the biggest farm'

Lol

Wordsfrombimpe:
Impressive

impressive, right now, I feel like I left late.

These are the kind of people I like to learn/discuss religion. Not the type that was born and breed in a particular religion and know nothing about another religion, then would still argue that his own is the way(you they talk say your mama soup na the sweetest when you never eat your neighbour mama soup).

I officially moved out at 22. I think I'll give this one tho the Ibo's, some leave as early as 15, no wonder they make money on time.

Patrioticbreed9:
Nyerisi nda!

Nwonda!

woke nde osimini.

If i No love you.. Who!?

Nwenne meka!