ivolt:

Don't mind the poser.
I was shocked that many people agreed with him even though he doesn't
understand the problem he is trying to solve.

Nigeria is practically a socialist economy and we don't even make the top 100 capitalist country.
Almost every sector is under one subsidy or the other with people demanding for more freebies.

Well, he has some pictures of fancy houses to be magically built by willing communist slaves.
And he is damn sure that having such structures is the height of development.

Do you even understand the Nigerian problem?
Do you deny that 80% of Nigerians are Poor, lacking in the most basic necessities of life?

How is Nigeria Socialist? So because this government that previously claimed subsidy is a scam are now saying they pay subsidy. Does that mean we are a Socialist state?

Pray tell me what makes a society developed if not the amenities/structures within?

joyandfaith:


How can we achieve socialism in multi-cultural society like Nigeria?

The answer is simple but painful... As painful as removing a decaying tooth.

All cultures have to be collapsed into a NATIONAL CULTURE.

Cultures/ peoples who refuse to merge with other people will be left alone to forge their separate path.

Chyjoey:


You are unrealistically idealistic in your thinking of the problem.
Let’s assume the manpower is available and are willing to work without pay (ignoring the fact that this is tantamount to slavery),
the physical resources for achieving those goals still have to be sourced, some imported, foreign exchange is needed as well as international cooperation.

The pyramids were built by slaves of a wealthy great civilization.
Ancient Egypt was not surviving on world bank loans.

If by Physical resources you mean granite, sand, cement, steel rods, steel beams, steel pipes, wires, cables, pvc, bitumen, aluminium/ slate roofing sheets, I don't think I need to answer that as I'm sure you know we don't have to import any of those.

If you mean machinery, repairs, spares and fabricating new ones, we just need use what is available and to get our best hands to make ours the way Germans did.

As to your comments of slavery... Who is a slave?

1. Someone forced by internal or external forces to work to make a living for himself and his family?
Or
2. Someone put to work for free without any consideration?

If you're answer is the former, then we are all slaves.
If the answer is the latter, then I don't know of any slave in history because even the slaves of Egypt were housed clothed and fed. The difference is that they had no freewill to decline not to work.

Chyjoey:


“From whence do you anticipate the funds for implementation of these socialist/communist policies will come from?”

Your country is borrowing to survive, and you risk alienating the west by leaning towards socio-communist systems..

You are also part of the reason why we are this backward. Believing we have to borrow to survive...

Let me ask you Chyjoey,
Why do we need to borrow to build a building, or two buildings or a 1000 units of buildings or roads or drainages?
What aspect of these things can't be built by Nigerians using Nigerian material

BSsniffer:
Nigeria only needs restructuring and investment in human development before building useless flyovers and white elephant projects. Your solution for a communist dictatorship is actually stupid...in a communist dictatorship you're practically a property of the government.

That you don't agree with someone doesn't mean his idea is stupid.. since you are not able to make a better idea, I think the joke is on you..

If I ask you restructuring to what? States? Regional powers or what?
Did the regional systems really work in the 60's? It only ended up creating regional power brokers..

Have state creation solved anything? Think my man

@FEB11, I don't know what prompted this idea in you but I say kudos.

If only we could get it past merely wishing for it and actually putting it into a well developed outline... Then it can be acceptable to many of us sick of living like animals in a jungle.

Rugaria:

The Chinese model is the Best. Especially under the command of a benevolent dictator..

The Chinese model is socialist.

In

Rugaria:
I have always believed that for a developing country struggling to quickly catch up with fast moving nations, the best route to take is urbanization. What urbanization does is to provide your citizens living in a given neighborhood with everything they need to live the kind of life witnessed in far more developed climes. ..

What you have just described above is the same thing the OP is propagating... Social structure.

Sermwell:

I'm not Igbo but you really sound foolish for nut knowing the reason for water scarcity in places like Enugu! Go and get some education!

My dear, you are Igbo. And there is no justifiable reason why Enugu has no potable water supply. When places like Jos, Maiduguri, Kaduna, Benin City have water available.
Is Enugu the only place coal is found in it's soil?
Your state Leaders are crooks and you've kept recycling them.
Or was it Delta people or 'Afonjas' from Lagos and Ibadan tht came to vote in your Leaders?

Physician, heal thyself!

Man has been able to conquer whatever encumbrance nature put in his path and a hill of less than 1000 feet shouldn't be an exception.
We are in 2021 for crying out loud!

Israel and Dubai are in the middle of the desert but have piped water.

Enugu state government has no excuse

Reminds me of the day I drove through Enugu and encountered engine overheating.

I took a keg intending to fetch water from nearby houses/shops/filling stations.

Omo, the way they were looking at me like I was asking for some precious stone baffled me!

Like play, I couldn't get water anywhere, i had to drive it like that till I got to a supermarket and bought bottles of water to fill the radiator.

I got to appreciate my Niger Delta where water can never be a commodity hoarded by anyone...

And they come online to chest beat all the time .

Such gross incompetence.

And they had to use Buhari's name in this gaffe...
Jonathan was not born on the 17th.

To show you how jobless they are over there at the villa...
Just sit around thinking of who next to send birthday wishes to....
Or express shock at their demise.

bigpriik:
It pains me how these guys have brought shame to igboland they have made us look like land grabbers...
I prefer biafra with aniomas ( 50% accept theyr Igbo origin ),obigbos and opobo they rest are irrelevant,

News flash bruv, You and all your Ilk are land Grabbers!

TooNoisy:


The center was led by NPC with Tafawa Balewa as Prime Minister and Nnamdi Azikiwe as ceremonial president..

Aguiyi Ironsi took over and never punished the coup plotters. Essentially, Ironsi's Igbo led government would now control all the resources of the country.

They would taunt the notherners that the Igbos are now in charge and they could do as they liked.
Let's tell the complete story. .

This dominating attitude is why no one wants to see them as president.

The reason for Azikiwe forming alliance with the North rather than with Awolowo was because they assumed they would be able to Lord and dominate Balewa.
When they realized it was a pipe dream and the name of president was only a name and nothing much else, they had to seize power through the back door.

Always about selfish interests.

Look at their Biafra agitation, at the center of it all is their desire to dominate the Niger Delta oil.

They think theyre the only ones with sense

Reflect7:


You're 1000% spot on.

Until they abandon that MAD DREAM based on RAW GREED and SELFISHNESS, one of their own will never be allowed to lead the Federal Republic, and Nigerians will continue to regard them with deep suspicion.

These two PRIMARY traits are the reason they are kept at arm's length. it's the reason for the pogroms against igbos in the North, and they've still refused to learn to change, or, if change is impossible, at least mask it a bit.

.

Whats going on in this country. Are we at war

BKayy:
The man that warned us is "dead"
Though times ahead

or what? Someone

Demigod22:
I was my grandma's favorite child before her death last year. Since her death I am the only one seeing her in my dream. She always visit with gifts and bunch of money and always advising me to be strong.

Since her death I don't go to her house again, last time she visited me in my dream complaining how I don't visit her house again,

My dear Demigod22, why are you neglecting something your grandma left for you.
She so wants you to have this thing but you have to conciously draw near to her ...

It may not be physical money but something that'll be of immense value to you and your own life in the very near future but you've got to make her house your second home for now.

When she's finally transferred this 'gift' to you, I assure you her soul will finally be at peace.

So many gifted people passed on without transferring their abilities to others. Maybe because they found non worthy.
Be grateful she found you worthy.

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To answer your questions objectively.

1. There's no best way to stop existing because death is not the end of existence, merely a transition to another plane... (For instance, you finish secondary school and leave,
your teachers, and former students fondly remember you for one thing or the other.
Doesn't mean you are no more, you just moved on to another phase of life) ...
That's the best description for death I can come up with...

2. Painless way to end a life? Non really... But I may say, carbon monoxide poisoning.

3. Yes, there is definitely a Hell, just not the way you have a preconceived notion about hell. As with most things in existence, it's never ever how we think it'll be.

E.g You see pictures of foreign country and imagine it's all a paradise on Earth. Until you get there you find out, its not as you imagined.

Hell is a place of judgment/reward. Depends on what you sowed.
Many get sent back here or to worst planes for punishment...

Taking your own life won't end your conciousness. Nor will it provide an escape route.. but don't take my word for it. You can try it out

NGpatriot:


Non-igbo people own properties in igboland? Are they mad. Why? For some ipob terrorists of unknown gunmen to burn it down?

I don't know of any Non Igbo with property in Igbo land. Ordinary poultry a friend of mine establish in Ebonyi, the indigens burnt it to the ground with close to 1000 birds.
Even in the local Igbo market in your own state, you dare not go and rent a shop there to be competing with them. You'll meet with unforseen disaster

Jomonix:


But the Chinese are even more remote to Nigeria than the Igbo who is capable of delivering to the same scale as the Chinese if not more. What we are asking Nigerians is for them to be fare to the Igbo even as much as they have been to other non Nigerians including the Chinese. Will you dare to touch a Chinese property in Nigeria?

Either you fail to understand or choose not to understand,

Wether dare or not, A Chinaman cannot cross into NIGERIA and start building a house just like that.
There are laws in place to ensure that doesn't happen.
Whatever factory you see a Chinese own is either on lease for certain number of years or bought by real or corporate persons Indigenous to Nigeria

Jomonix:


A positive mind will welcome the industrious spirit that produced those properties so for more development. Separation should not be seen as quarrel but as a way to better the lives of all parts of Nigeria.

How more industrious can you be than the Chinese? Does that change the fact their still aliens in Nigeria?
So we should allow the Chinese,and Indians unrestricted access into Nigeria because they're "industrious minds"?

Come on, be logical dude.
Can the people of Southern Cameroon Saunter across the border to come and start claiming rights? Afterall, they were formerly in Nigeria?

Modified

The bolded is the key word. Betterment of Nigeria.

Tell me why will NIGERIA pursue the betterment of Biafran people's interest than bettering her citizens?

Rossiminku:



ABSOLUTE HORSE SHIIT.

Fact is Igbos would turn persona non grata in Nigeria.

I mean, you'll be foreigners. Illegal aliens needing to show your papers the minute you cross that Niger Bridge in Onitsha.

You would have nothing like the rights you hold today in Nigeria.

Dot com people.

Tell them.. A real dot com.
I mean, who in his right mind will fight his neighbors on every side knowing he has a population overload that his resources (if they have any) can't cater for?

They Erroneously assume taking Asaba, Aboh, Agbor (The Anioma region) will give them any inroad into the Niger Delta Lol.

News flash, you are still landlocked without direct assess to the sea!

Breaking news, you still won't have the oil you seek in any significant amount.

Headline news. Your people will no longer be tolerated selling cheap Chinese items at every street corner, Traffic jam or market.

Your big transportation businessmen will go broke because their luxurious buses can't go beyond the borders of Biafra.
You can no longer hold the legal tender of Nigeria.
Banks, Electricity services, Airports etc that the Nigerian state ensures gets to Igbo land will be suspended.

Enjoy your dream

gidgiddy:


This all shows you how fake and pointless "one Nigeria" is, and has always been.

Argue with valid facts now!
He has shown you in clear terms the treatment your people should be prepared for.
Do you now see how suicidal your quest is?
But like the proverbial tortoise, too proud to admit that you have been misled by a British naturalized jobless schizophrenic.

gidgiddy:


Only someone with slave mentality will still be talking about 50×50, property and residency when people are talking about their own independent country

Answer the question and stop trying to be clever-by-half.
1. Have you ever counted your hard earned money to buy Land? Anywhere, no matter how small even if 50×50?

2. In what ways have the destiny of your people been caged?

gidgiddy:


Bro, no amount of property or residency is worth we Igbos having our own independent country where we are in control of our destiny.

I ask you again? Have you ever bought a plot of land Anywhere? Even if it's 50×50? .

What part of your destiny is not under your control?
Because the last time I checked, the Igbos have enjoyed a free hand to establish their businesses anywhere they deem and succeed.
The Nigerian state made that possible. So I ask again, how is your destiny caged?

gidgiddy:


While you're talking about Edo/delta, just know that we Igbos do not intend to leave any of us behind. A typical example is the city of Asaba, capital of Delta state. Asaba indigenes are proud Igbos, Asaba is an Igbo city. When we leave, they leaving with us

I have told all my Asaba friends for more than 10 years to hurry up and leave Delta State for us.
We were cheated out of the capital initially.
They can cut themselves out to join the south east, no problem.
It's time Warri reclaim back it's lost Glory as the true capital of Delta State.

But don't expect to see another Kobo of Delta money to further develop Asaba

gidgiddy:


A visitor visa to go to Nigeria is a very small price for one to pay to have their own independent country

However, the issue here are the properties one has legitimately, but is no longer a citizen. Whatever laws that the Lebanese, Indians, Chinese and other foreigners have used to retain control of their properties in Nigeria is what the Biafrans will use to also keep their own

Your stupidity is legendary. You think granting you a visiting visa is the right of the visitor?
Your host may refuse to grant you a visiting visa and he is well within his rights despite whatever fee he charges you for the Visa

Besides, you don't get to own and hold property before you get a residency permit. Not a visiting visa

Ruggman:
Your major headache is another man's property , don't kill yourself for noting .
The Igbos are not worried about the properties because we are capable of acquiring better and more glorious properties given the right atmosphere and opportunities .
After the Biafran war it took Igbos little time and little resources to recover, while other tribes are still struggling and marvelling at the magnitude of wealth the Igbos posses.
Igbo people are a wonder to the world.
Watch out for them anywhere in the world and you will see their imprint on the sands of time.
CERTAINLY THE GLORY OF THE LATTER HOUSE SHALL BE GREATER THAN THE FORMER.

See this one still eating "Daddy Thank you", yapping about building.

Swear, Have you ever bought a bag of cement in your life? Talk more of granite?

I don't think so, else you'll know why the Igbos in the North have consistently dissociated themselves from your poverty driven biafla. .
Those who have something to lose are more cautious about their utterances. Not these online children with 100MB free data

gidgiddy:


Are you this Ignorant? You honestly believe that people are not allowed to own property anywhere in the world other than their home country?

If that is so, why would any foreign investor come to Nigeria? He is not allowed to buy land, build factories(since he cant own the building)

You are the ignorant one here sir.
I am not concerned with what goes on in Malabu or Zurich. Our focus here is current Nigeria Land ownership laws.
Go through the land use Act 1978.
Go through your constitution.

Yes a foreigner can come here and get property on LEASEHOLD for 25, 50 or 99 years. That is permissible.

You won't know this because you all semi illiterate advocates will rather hurl insults than learn to be strategic.

The simple solution I have advised you people is to build alliances with your neighbors, do some horse trading... That way you secure your businesses, and assess to the sea and trade.

But No! You'll rather insult the Yorubas , and claim lordship over the Niger Delta including Edo/Delta that was never a part of your old East.

As I always say, Come and claim Edo/Delta na, that's when you'll know why the two states are named the Heart beat/Big Heart states.

gidgiddy:


Nothing, there are many houses owned by foreigners in Nigeria. The street I used to live in Apapa, Lagos, all the houses on that street were owned by Lebanese men.

If Igbos get there own country, international and domestic laws will come into effect, and they will be protected.

Infact, owning a house or property in a foreign country is a good thing because it almost assures you of residency rights in that country

Sir, go and check well. Those houses either were bought with the Identity of Nigerians fronting for them
Or they have lived here long enough to get citizenship

Kindly name the international instrument that allows an alien own land in another sovereign state?

LagosInter:
What becomes of properties owned by Igbos/Biafrans outside Igbo land, should Nigeria disintegrate?

This is a difficult and bitter answer, but I have to say it.

According to the laws of Nigeria, non citizens cannot own property in Nigeria.

It's either the property owner, rejects Biafra and pledge loyalty to Nigeria or they lose everything. Not just real property but businesses, enterprises etc.

It will be economic suicide on their part.