₦airaland Forum

ityP:
You don't know shit about politics. This ameachi stuff don dey constitution since. The constitution supersedes the electoral act. If they fixed it into electoral act, it won't still be binding. What is there in resigning 6 months to the end of a tenure?

You're the Ignorant one here obviously.
When kayode fayemi was contesting for governor in Ekiti as minister of mines and solid minerals,he didn't resign until after the primaries. But now you have to resign well before the primary election. Go and read.

ityP:
You people should run the convention first let's see

Lol.........

Agbegbaorogboye:
Yes. And that political homogeneity is a deliberate one not spontaneous. It is borne out of the reality that they are better and stronger together and an all for one charter amongst their political elite. Look at what is happening with Buni now. The main govs antagonising him are from the same North. That shows the homogeneity is deliberate. Let the North be holding the short end of the political stick and you'll see all of them become one and speak with one voice and one purpose. The South needs to learn that.

The SW was the winning stroke. Yes. But at what cost? It led to rancour and bitterness. And you the SW "progressives" allowed it to foster thinking the North will pay you your wages as you put it. That's what I'm pointing out to you. The North did not share that sentiment. They had their eyes on the ball and did not entertain any appeal to sentiments. It's the fruit of it you're seeing now. Suddenly it's 1960s all over again. Learn from this. When you're going into alliance with power hungry sharks, always ensure your aim is well spelt between both parties and you don't destroy your base on your way to the alliance. It is always better to dine with the devil using a long spoon.
Besides, Tinubu alone can't claim sole credit for installing Buhari. Amaechi also did a lot. So also did Atiku. To give sole credit to Tinubu is just hero worshipping not grounded on any fact.

My mention of Tinubu was deliberate. I didn't need to mention the fact that other people contributed to buhari's victory as that's common sense. I stand to be corrected I don't think any single individual provided more arsenal than Tinubu in the south. Buhari flew in his jet around the country in 2015, the bullion van issue is still hanging on his neck till date,he deployed his men to work especially in the south west. How can I mention an Amaechi in that light when he couldn't win his state or any other state in his south south? Tinubu led the March in the south west to win all the states in the west except Ekiti in 2015 and Ondo in 2019. That's massive!

garfield1:
He received the letter

I'm not sure oo

fergie001:
No date for National Convention.

March 26 will be the Zonal Congress, they wanted to ambush INEC but this new Electoral Act has changed the dynamics.

Did you see the interview granted by the spokes person of the cecpc? It's a totally different narrative. Apc is a shame.

garfield1:
Bello will simply go ahead with the zonal congress and fix a new date for the main convention and NEC meet

Is Bello even aware of this? I doubt

fergie001:
What will take place on March 26 will be the Zonal Congress.

I just saw that now from your initial comment. How come nobody noticed this all this while? Meaning no date for national convention yet?
I can't believe my eyes. So why has everyone been talking about March 26? Whaaaat!

fergie001:
The letter that was conveyed signalling Buni's transfer of power to Sani Bello is fake and backdated.

Section 82(1) of the new Electoral Act 2022:
Every registered political party shall give the Commission at least 21 days' notice of any Convention, Congress, Conference or meeting convened for the purpose of "merger" and electing members of its executive committees, other governing bodies or nominating candidates for any of the elective offices specified under this Act.

The Black Law's dictionary defines "shall" as
"As used in statutes, contracts, or the like, this word is generally imperative or mandatory

The Supreme Court also defined the word "shall" means.

When the word “shall” is used in a statute it connotes the intendment of the (legislator) that what is contained therein must be done or complied with. It does not give room for manoeuvre of some sort, or evasiveness. Whatever the provision requires to be done must be done, and it is not at all negotiable…” (Muhammadu Buhari v INEC, 2008) per Aloma Mukhtar, JSC (at the time)


The APC CECPC had written to INEC on Feb 02 to hold its Convention on Feb 26, 2022. Due to certain issues, the same APC CECPC wrote to the same INEC on 21st February, 2022:

“Notice for the conduct of zonal congresses”

“This notice supersedes our earlier notice for the National Convention referenced APC/NHDQ/INEC/019/22/14. This is predicated on the evaluation of our party Constitution.”

“In furtherance to Article 85 of the Electoral Act, 2010 (as amended) and compliance with Section 12(6) of our party Constitution, we hereby write to notify the Commission that our great party, the All Progressives Congress has scheduled to hold its Zonal Congresses on Saturday, March 26, 2022.

“Kindly arrange for your officials to monitor the exercise accordingly. While hoping to receive your co-operation, please accept the assurances of our highest esteem,” the notification letter read.
https://dailytrust.com/breaking-apc-postpones-convention

When the issue of adjustment is brought forward, we then x-ray the meaning of supercedes:

The Black Law's dictionary (11th ed.) 2019 define supersedes as: “[t]o annul, make void, or repeal by taking the place of.”

The letter of Feb 02 has therefore been voided. (That counters the adjustment argument)

Let us see S82(5):
Failure of a political party to notify the Commission as stated in Section 82(1) shall render the Convention, Congress, conference or meeting invalid.

NB: This Section 82(5) was not in the old Electoral Act 2010, that was why parties did it the way they liked.

In the old Electoral Act, there is no punishment when you don't inform INEC...in this Electoral Act, Section 82(5) has been added.


My submission..... indispensable85

I think Buni and his co-travellers are clearly upto something. Buhari is just too dull to sense anything. He's too dull for my liking. They're just tossing him left and right. They know he's not intelligent. The same people that plotted the removal of oshiomhole are desperately cooking a poisonous challice. Is March 26 zonal congress?

Buhari should be held responsible for this madness. The oshiomhole issue was an easy one but he was deceived to dissolve the EXCO instead of resolving the issue and allow their tenure to run fully.

They continue the deceit of the old man 6months became 2yrs.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Is the North really homogenous? The North is made of more tribes than the South. However, they easily align their interest when it comes to politics, something we in the South will be forming too politically correct and educated to do.
It is not true to say the average northerner will not vote for an Igbo man, or that an average northerner trusts a Yoruba or Niger Deltan more than an Igbo. They see all as same thing. A possible threat that needs to be subdued. For example. The pioneer of northern hegemony, Ahmadu Bello accused the Igbo of a domineering agenda. Yet, he easily worked with them to the detriment of the SW. He then decimated the SW using Akintola. When Niger Delta threatened to secede, Adaka Boro was decimated by Ojukwu. Same Adaka Boro was granted amnesty by Gowon on the eve of the Civil war while Awolowo was also released and made a commissioner in the Federal Cabinet after being locked up for treason by Tafawa Balewa's govt. Shagari had an Igbo Vice while Awolowo had a northern Vice. They chose an Igbo vice over a Yoruba man.

My point is the North do not really trust any southerner with power be it Yoruba, Igbo or Niger Delta. That's why a Tinubu who sacrificed all to get Buhari elected and re-elected can be treated shabbily despite being a Yoruba. What exactly is stopping Buhari from handing over to Tinubu or Osinbajo at least let me ask? What do you think he has against both of them?

I was actually referring to being politically homogeneous.

As for your last sentence and question,to be honest I think the South West was the winning stroke in 2015,2019 for the APC. If a workman truly deserves his wages, Tinubu for me deserves to be given the APC presidential ticket. That's my take.

garfield1:
It means nothing after all apga flouted similar laws in anambra...inec has no business in how party runs their affaiirrs till primmaries

How certain are you?

fergie001:
That 21 days was voided by Buni.

O boy........!
Dem for just leave oshiomhole dat time oo

garfield1:
Why can't it hold when buni already gave them a 21 day notice as of february.?

Is there a law that says you must issue a fresh 21days notice for every postponment? It makes common sense to do a follow up letter to the initial one already sent if there's a postponment.

However, I'm amazed that Buni didn't think it wise to do the needful since the last time it was postponed. I'm beginning to believe those who said Buni and his committee never wanted a convention.

fergie001:
INEC can't be present.

Thank you.
One idiot nor allow me rest o

Truthisunique2:
lol we don't need court

Your position is already non and void when ever you reach the end of your wide goose chase

They would all come to inec table and be trashed

Bloody illiterate you've got to return to high school if you ever attended any.
Let me school you a little:
It's NULL AND VOID not NON AND VOID.
It's WILD GOOSE CHASE not WIDE GOOSE CHASE.
It's THRASHED not TRASHED.

Useless semi-illiterate block head. Go and read your books. I'm not in your class.

Truthisunique2:
pains

Talking like a kid as if law na biscuit you price for aluko

Law is law there is nothing just about it, you don't kill someone and tell the judge it's just a kid you killed nothing special

You must have inec present any where there is election or "just decision to assign temporal executive to go shit for 2 second

Pain no let u dey reason like normal person again. Since dem national assembly nack ur Amaechi akpako u nor well again. Painment... LoL

fergie001:
Ok


garfield1 vicdom kahal29 penguin2 indispensable85 ejimatic

Fergie na to catch cruise ooo

tempest01:
Even if we were to conceed that it is an "adjustment" and adjustment is legal, Notice of adjustment signed by illegals?

Don't worry Buni will send it

Truthisunique2:
Lol, dog when wan loss

This is good news for buni because they have agreed to go on with tomorrow proclamation with an illegal secretary not recognized by INEC

Once this is done we would get a sharp court injunction pausing the illegal convention till buni further notice

Who's WE?
LOSERS CLUB

PrinceOfLagos:
No single regard for rule of law by this leaders

Too bad

Go to court

cktheluckyman:
but Sani Bello claimed yesterday that he did not see any letter.Now Buni can conveniently claim it was forged

Hahahahahahahaha.....his signatures are there.

Truthisunique2:
pains

Talking like a kid as if law na biscuit you price for aluko

Law is law there is nothing just about it, you don't kill someone and tell the judge it's just a kid you killed nothing special

U be mumu. If e pain u , go to court.

ogododo:
The ruling All Progressives Congress APC has dismissed a letter written to it by the Independent National Electoral Commission (INEC) on the need to give the Commission a 21-day notice for its national convention slated for March 26.

Spokesman of the party’s Caretaker Extraordinary Convention Planning Committee CECPC, Barr. Ismaila Ahmed disclosed this at a news conference Friday in Abuja.


He said the party had earlier intimated the commission of its intent to conduct its national convention on February 26 and that what is now required for its new date of March 26 is simply a notice of an adjustment and not a fresh 21-day notice.


https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/03/apc-dares-inec-vows-to-go-ahead-with-march-26-convention/

Oh.....ok I get it now. I was arguing regarding NEC.
I think the party is in order here. An adjustment of date is not a fresh notice.
Go to court if you are not satisfied.

Truthisunique2:
number one no be letter or notice to INEC the constitution stated.

It said INEC must be involved through representative in the meeting of such magnitude (change of officers, assigning of position)

There are three events INEC must be physically present at to observe and sign

(1) party convention

(2) party congress

(3) Party change of officers, assignment of position)

Oga it's not an election or nomination of EXCO. It's just to inform INEC he's out of town and Sani Bello has been delegated powers to as acting chairman.

DMerciful:
Oshiomhole was removed by a court of competent jurisdiction

Forget dat matter. We know wetin play

Truthisunique2:
bumi is the NEC chairman of apc, if he must transmit his powers to anybody whether in acting capacity he must get the permission of INEC, the constitution is clear as day not defined by your emotions

Whether Bello acts on buni behalf it doesn't change the fact that he would be excersing all the powers of the Chairman including his secretary if he was also legal

You forgot that Buni has already sent a letter to INEC informing them of his transfer of powers to Sani Bello. That was 28th of February.

Truthisunique2:
ignorance is a crime

Section 82 (2-3) of the Electoral Act 2022 (as amended) makes it mandatory for all registered POLITICAL PARTIES IN NIGERIA TO INVOLVE INEC IN ANY MEETING, congress or convention WHERE elections or DECISIONS TO NOMINATE EXECUTIVES or governing bodies OF THE PARTY SHALL BE TAKEN.

None of this was carried out before buni assigned power to bello, therefore any meeting Bello is holding is non and void

Your problem is comprehension. Buni didn't need the permission of INEC to delegate power to Bello. His position is not substantive but acting in the absence of Buni.

The NEC meeting is not for nominating executives so INEC is not needed neither were they supposed to be notified abinitio.

fergie001:
Ok


garfield1 vicdom kahal29 penguin2 indispensable85 ejimatic

Is there anywhere in the constitution that makes it mandatory for parties to inform INEC before a NEC meeting?
Does INEC need to be present in a party's NEC meeting? Are they NEC members?

Wahala promax. Lol...

Agbegbaorogboye:
He can if the South learn to play politics like the north. The only reason PDP is not already zoning its ticket to the south is not necessarily because Igbos can't win like you guys taunt them. Rather, it is because the South is easily dividable. So they are taking the SE for granted by believing they should suck up to the North and then get divided votes from the South. If tables were turned, I bet you PDP will not try such with the North.

So the South need to learn to be a balancing force to the Northern hegemony. The SW can't do it alone as events in APC have proven. Neither can the SE or the SS. It has to be the South as one entity.
That's when Southerners will have real political value in this country. Imagine Tinubu as consummate and successful as he is as a politician being played like a ball by some inconsequential Buni and Malami. Not because they measure up to him in anyway but because they see the leverage they have over the South. Nnamdi Azikiwe realized this late. Go and read his speech of Jan 1, 1966. The North needs to be balanced politically by the South else, or best minds will never rule this country.
For example, the biggest opposition to both TInubu and Obi is coming from where again?

Lol..... valid points. But can we ever have a homogeneous south? Almost impossible!
I think the PDP and APC are scared of the consequential backlash from the north that's why they're afraid of zoning to the south east. The average northerner will not vote for an ibo man. The only solution is if the both parties agree to zone to the south east. By so doing the north will have no option.

Hahahahahahahaha........where are you operating from sir?

Penguin2:
Lol!

Don’t be so pissed.

The Tinubu project is a failed project.

Court order is court order hope you're seeing what is happening in Ebonyi sha?

Agbegbaorogboye:
Exactly. You Tinubu supporters need to realize that APC for the northerners was a vehicle to get back what they believed they lost unfairly through Yar'adua. The truth is, the north were really not anti-PDP like you ACN guys. They were rather anti-south. An easy pointer for this is the fact that by 2019, Boko haram was still alive and kicking and insecurity had worsened in the North with bandits. Also, APC corruption was personified by Ganduje. These are the two main pillars the north claimed they booted GEJ out for. Instead, Buhari got almost 95% votes in 2019.
They really don't care about APC especially now that they will be playing second fiddle there by 2023. And Buhari is ALWAYS pro-North

Interesting.......
Let's see sha

Penguin2:
Lol!

Don’t be so pissed.

The Tinubu project is a failed project.

Nor worry I'll mention you in due time. Let's get this convention out of the way first. I can assure you that nobody can defeat Tinubu in the APC presidential primary election.