₦airaland Forum

PhockPhockMan:
They're all loyal to the man that appointed them, Buhari.

Actually, they appointed him and his Deputy.

Why do you lie so much?

Ikengawo:
Buhari is the entertainment of the week, which is fine jare. To be fair, should he get any of the proceeds? Should he even get 10%?

Let's ask IBB, after all GEJ just gave him an award and described him as his father, mentor and someone to be emulated.

Why is it that If someone doesn't steal from you guys you don't like him?

Truckpusher:
Of course extreme violence served in a subtle manner is part of the game,Mr Lai.






I bet these guys were expecting a warm handshake, when they go running their mouth anynow.

Then you run your mouth too, you don't attempt to kill your political opponent just because they made scathing remarks about you. Abhoring violence in all its ramifications is something that's always been hard to teach certain groups of Africans.

Ngwakwe:
I wouldn't have commented about Seuns retrogressive and oppressive input to gag Nairalanders freedom to protest by their choice of words on our politicians especially irresponsible ones.

I will fight any censorship to this effect even if Buhari happens to be elected in 2019 after GEJ and starts misbehaving as if Nigeria is Saudi Arabia according to his past antecedents.

See what African Human Right Fact File has on Buhari's Column




Chai, who wan leave cooking pot (GEJ) fall enter fire/burner (Buhari)?

Aren't you supposed to be a born again christian? Why do you hate others so much? Who hurt you as a boy?

explorer250:
Jonathan this,jonathan that. WHAT IS IT THAT JONATHAN HAS ACTUALLY DONE WRONG? Why are we nigerians filled with much hate for our dear president? Jonathan is the best president so far since the independence of Nigeria. Among all the heads of states and presidents that ruled nigeria so far, who among them can compete against jonathan in times infrastructure,power,food security,transparency,good governance and all other sectors of the economy?. Do we know that Nigeria cleared its debt from the world bank during jonathan administration?, do we know that power is more steady in Nigeria during his administration?, do we know that the price of petroleum products was most stable in jonathans administration compared to the previous

You need to stop doing drugs.

Collynzo29:
He only made matters worse in this so called apology by saying less than 2% of the group are APC members.
Those 2% I believe, sponsor the group and pay the other members.

He could've easily lied and said they didn't even have any members within the group. What he did was commendable, end of.

Commendable. This kind of attitude should be encouraged. Very civilized and unlike the usual "Nigerian braggadocio". Nigeria used to have fine gentlemen in its politics, but they are far and in-between now. Now Nigeria's politics is mostly filled with very unrefined men. I sincerely think a change in Government next year, and Nigeria will start to get it right again.

Seun:
Hello,

I'm working on a modification to our rules that will make it an offence to disrespect government officials and call them derogatory names on Nairaland. The objective is to prepare Nairaland for a time when the Nigerian Government may not be able to tolerate such things. Currently it's against our rules to deliberately insult a Nairaland member, so we will just be extending this rule to make it cover government officials too.

What are your comments on this? I promise to read all your comments, though I can't promise to reply all of them, of course.

Thanks!

Offensive? Yes! Derogatory? Yes! Sometimes threatening, sickening and belittling? Yes! Yes!! Yes!!! But in the end, people should be allowed to say what they want to and get it off their chest. In effect, what you're proposing is tantamount to asking people to ONLY praise Govt officials. Some people want to insult Buhari because they feel he deserves it, let them insult him all they want. If they feel like GEJ is the best thing to happen since slice bread---and Buhari supporters think GEJ has the I.Q of a crooked 3-legged table and the thieving skills of a hundred Maddoffs'--- for God's sake let everyone feel free to express their opinion. You want to make it fair? Then ban the praise of Govt officials too, so you can't praise or criticize them, and it'll all be balanced.

Doesn't make sense, right? Exactly!

Of course the Government (or Seun himself) can/should prohibit speech/writing that i.e: threatens physical arm, or leads to incitation resulting in violence against another. BUT IT SHOULD NOT BE SOLELY FOR PROTECTING GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS!!! Such law should be structured primarily to protect the ordinary citizens from everyday violence, physical and verbal abuse that they suffer in the hands of public law enforcement officials, teachers, bus drivers, everyday. Such a law will also protect the citizens---and in effect the whole country--- from polarizing figures like Asari Dokubo and Dr.Junaid Ibrahim. Theirs are the kinds of speech that needs to be stifled. When the citizens are safe, the Government is safe and doesn't have much to worry about and can even walk in the streets and nobody will notice them. But when the Govt doesn't carry out its primary duties of welfare and security for the citizens, of course it will fear free speech. A Govt that is taking care of business will not care about simple words to the extent that it will propose banning it.

Let people speak.


p.s: Also, if you're really serious about banning insults then refrain from posting articles or topics that would bring up such reaction in the first place. You can't expect people to think the same and agree on every topic, there will always be opposing views. So, either ban it all or accept it in its entirety with a few minor tweaks here and there.

mauriceju2:
The Muslim believe that they will rule the world in their foolishness(they will convert the whole world to Islam)

How many times have Muslims stopped you on the street or knocked at your door in attempts to convert you to their religion?

femilosh:
I am S/W christian....I lived a little bit in the north...GMB s seen as a religious leader, that is why he is generally accepted by the northern muslims.....so if APC is wise they should get someone that is generally accepted by southern christians....e.g E.A Adeboye....

How many of you voted for Pastor Tuned Bakare when was on the ticket?

SamIkenna:
I will cast my vote for GEJ is the choice is Buhari. But if APC fields Fashola, Ribadu, Utomi, Fayemi, etc - I will vote for APC. I will not vote for Muslim-Muslim ticket and certainly will not vote for any man that has openly supported the implementation of Sharia nation-wide.

You wouldn't even vote for a Jesus/John The Baptist combo if APC put them forward. Stop deceiving yourself. By now everyone on here knows you trick and sees through your scam. We know that your job here is to try and convince people who are still on the fence but leaning towards Buhari to insist that he should be ditched for a less popular candidate so that GEJ can have a free ride. You have failed! Buhari has a guaranteed 12million votes, plus millions of new converts. In contrast, it is clear to all that GEJ has lost support by the millions while barely gaining any new ones, so your continuous rants from thread to thread is kind of understandable.

I know you gotta eat, but I'd hate to be you right now. Your job seems to be a hard one and probably costs more than its really worth.

Every explosion--in the same Nigeria where tanks of Propane are kept in Kitchens and faulty+illegal electrical wirings are the norm--- is now being blamed on bombs.

Please, tell me something else more interesting than this because this story is boring.

Itydee:
Since he left office, the source said, Buhari has basically depended on hand outs from his friends and supporters.

Living on handouts from friends and driving a 450 million naira bullet proof SUV. Mtechheeeeeew

That armored SUV that saved is life:

1. Is provided to him by the Federal Government of Nigeria because of his title as ex-President of Nigeria.

2. Can be paid for by Buhari himself---if the Nigerian Government didn't provide him one--- his pensions alone could afford him one.

3. Is no where close to the figure you put up. Even level B-7 Protection for your car will cost you less than $100,000--- thats less than N15m.

I dont understand why y'all always feel the need to spread lies and rumors.

Agunnewi:
We must never forget to remember:
1. Sharia should be introduced in all the states of Nigeria
2. Jonathan is killing fulanis/northerners in the name of Boko haram
3. N2.8B oil wind fall missing under his watch.
4. 28 missing suitcases...(N20b) missing under his watch.

And many more, yet some say he is a 'saint".
Pathetic!!!

Your highest currency when Buhari was President was the N20 note, and that was even scarce as hell to see because your money had value back then. My question is how this super-crook named Buhari managed to fit N20billion naira in just 28 suitcases? Or do you want us to give you a little time to edit your post so you can change it to "28 40-Foot Containers" so your lies will be more believable?

All your 4 points are unfounded, thereby, calling your credibility---and overall sanity--- into serious question.

Mintayo:
Op,you ar only speaking for yourself,you are a christain,so am i,trust me,i won't vote for muslim/muslim come next year,not a bigot like Buhari!
And those saying that Fashola will not allow sharia,trust me,he will be pocketed by buhari!
Muslim/muslim is a no no for me!
The Op is talking like say the SW muslim will allow a christain/christain!

You write pretty well so I will not assume that you don't know how Governments operate in a democracy. As such, I will only attribute your rants against Buhari to that which you exhibited with your words: Hate, Discrimination and Bigotry... and, oh yeah, more hate.

Will Buhari just wave a magic wand and declare sharia? Or is Nigeria now a Monarchy in which the states--- almost half of which have an overwhelming majority Christian Senators and Reps. representing them in the National Assembly---have no rights?

Stop spreading fear and unsubstantiated information just because of the hate that resides in your heart.

pazienza:
Now, on the topic. If GEJ loses the election come 2015, it would be end game for the Niger delta, for many reasons, i don't think the Niger delta can hold a Nigeria under the control of an Extremist like Buhari with Odua support, with Ndiigbo beautifully playing the spectator role, to ransome.

GEJ must win come 2015, he has no other option, he has the Nigerian money under control, and INEC under his control. He should spread the money to win the support of all the strong men accross the country, everyone has a price. Remove Jega and put a suitable puppete if need be, sign any agreement if need be and make any promise if required, deploy the EFCC to silence those proving too sturborn, we all know that all Nigerian politicians are thieves with many skeletons in their cupboards.

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You just showed yourself to be a criminal of immense proportions. Your kind is why Nigeria is messed up. You're the exact reason why change is needed in that country, urgently!

zicoraads:
You know, I asked this question before but neva got a good answer. Barcanista and co...is it that you work from home, are jobless or you guys get paid for this? The amount of time and energy being put into this 'cause' is baffling.

Secondly, I doubt any of this has achieved or will ever achieve anything. I believe that going back and forth with accusations and counter-accusations online can achieve nothing.

Buhari's tenure as President also had serious failings. Its amazing that some of you can't pick up a good book to read or have just resolved to ignore the truth. I was one of those who actually wanted the APC to pick Kwankwaso, I would have voted for him and then convinced every person I come across to do same. The man has done wonderfully well and would have been a formidable candidate.

Buhari deserves a rest, if not for the greedy nature of Nigerian politicians, he should have endorsed Kwankwaso and thrown his full weight behind him.

A Kwankwaso-Fashola ticket would have been unbeatable, not so sure about Buhari's chances. Most of us are tired of seeing his face on the ballot paper every four years.

A Kwankwaso-Fashola ticket would have been unbeatable, yes, but all you're going to get in that regards is corruption by a different clique, (maybe) on a smaller--but still significant--- scale. I do not doubt that they are good administrators, I just fear that the duo will not SINCERELY tackle corruption. Tell me, what has been their record in stamping out corruption, indiscipline, physical abuse, assault, violent crimes etc in the various states they've governed? Thats what I want to know. What Nigeria needs is a sharp drop in corruption and creating a safe, business friendly environment which will in turn lead to development. Corruption will never let Nigeria rise!

Imagine a Nigeria where cops don't demand and ask for bribes, are properly funded and compensated for their jobs, properly equipped and trained in modern crime prevention and detection techniques etc. Imagine a Nigeria where red tapism is minimal or non existent. Or one where workers' right are protected in the court of law. Imagine a Nigeria where you can't just assault, hit or even slap someone in the face without facing consequences in a court. A Nigeria where even spitting on someone is considered assault? A Nigeria where the people act civilized and behave in a disciplined and orderly manner. I don't think you understand how much corruption and indiscipline has destroyed basically every facet of Nigerian society. Your country is a jungle and until some kind of sanity and order is restored, all you'll keep having is paper development which will never resonate in the life of the common man.

ican2020:
[size=14pt]The God of the Christians is different from that of the Muslims.
John 3 vs 16 says, Christ is the only son of God but that of the Muslims see him as a prophet.
Christ is the only way to God so says the bible but the Muslims disagrees.
For the very fact that some Church leaders in other to be seen as friends of the world and decided to go to mosque and pray with the Muslims does not change what the Bible clearly stated that, a friend with the world is an enmity with God.
So Christians that keep on thinking wrongly should read their Bible to understand God's mind
And any religion that did not preach and recognize Jesus Christ as the Son of God must be avoided by Christians at all cost.
Sorry to those who may be offended, but I prefer to please Baba God than men.[/size]

You just showed the world that you're intolerant of others' beliefs and that you're a religious extremist in thoughts, and probably, action too.

P.S: And just so you know: YOU'RE A MERE MORTAL, YOU CAN NEVER UNDERSTAND GOD'S "MIND"!

Mogidi:
Bros am not Igbo am from Edo state and as for being hateful, you couldn't be more wrong. Stating how marginalised the SW Christians are can hardly be described as hateful. You will recall I said in my post that Muslims wouldn't agree to a Christian/Christian ticket. Whats good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Still doesn't mean you're not filled with hate. Im going through our convo and I don't see where I accused you of being Ibo. I see how you could have construed it as such though... I also see how a non-ibo would've taken it how I REALLY meant it,so, honestly, this puts your claimed ethnicity in doubt.

In any event, I honestly don't see why I should be discussing with someone that made the type of comment below.

Mogidi:
Anenih's sagacity is renown in Nigeria but more so in Edo state.

It was through working with Anenih that the courts overturned Osunbor's reign, thus making Oshiomhole our governor.

Anenih has the staying power of Awolowo, the manipulative strenght of Babangida and best of all, the oral skills of Obama, you really need to be in his presence.

Anenih has surpassed Anthony Enahoro (the man who moved the motion for independence) as the greatest politician ever to come from Edo state.

There is no one like Anenih, he's a rare breed, Baba Anenih I hail O0oo.

According to Anenih, if only one person votes next year, that vote will be PDPs, let me not say too much.

Watch this space.

https://www.nairaland.com/mogidi/posts/10

Your mentality is way different from mine, and to you corruption means sagacity so I doubt we'll be seeing eye to eye on this topic.

anonimi:
Why is your ARITHMETIC so deficient
Jonathan has been president for five years

BTW, why stop with Jona and OBJoke when Nigeria has been in existence for 54 years?

54 years and Christians had no hand in its rot?

The biggest problem with yall Nigerians is your hypocrisy. Lies, burying your head in the sand and ignoring truth are your expertise.

Kinkale:
Laffing in spanish!! Seriously trow the recycled trash away.. Am from the south but won't object to a fashola and any oda southerner or easterner.. Let the north go and die.

You are from the East! Saying "I'm from the South" means you're saying you've got something in common with areas like Yoruba land and Edo land when in reality you've got nothing in common with them. The North might go and die, but stop trying to form fake alliances just for the sake of politics.

saintneo:
Let's stop deceiving ourselves.
Why can't we have Fashola contest for presidency? Why can't APC field a "performer" rather than a "pretender"?
If Buhari is genuine, then he should retire to the background just like other elderstatesmen; Gowon, Obasanjo, et al. APC should not impose Buhari on the people.

Promise him 10million votes from Iboland, and I bet APC won't hesitate to put him forward as its Presidential candidate.

emmasege:
I perfectly agree wt fashola as VP but not as him pairing up wt a northern muslim. The last time I checked Nigeria still had 19 northern states. Why is it so difficult to get a northern christian as d flag bearer? Simply because it's not about power returning to f north but to a Muslim.
Save for Gowons era, it's always been a Muslim anytime a northener is in power & a Christian anytime a southerner is in same position. For once, I'd like to see a northern Christian as president and a southern Muslim as VP. Nigeria belongs to all of us!

If Nigeria truly belongs to you all, you currently have a Christian President that's been there for 5yrs, before that, you had OBJ that was there for 8yrs...

It's starting to seem to me that Nigerian Christians are actually more intolerant than their Muslim counterparts than I previously thought.

Mogidi:
I don't think folks in SS/SE will contemplate having two muslim rulers. Why not two Christian rulers and then watch as dozen new boko haram movements spring up. The Northern/Muslim hegemony has been broken and long may it remain so.

The only people suffering are ordinary, poor people. Your fight should be against the Northern Political elite. What you're doing is like ordinary Ibos being punished for the since of Andy Uba, Nzeribe, Peter Obi etc

You need to stop being so hateful.

SamIkenna:
In the nutshell you're saying SW will vote for a ticket that has one of their sons in it - that is: if a ticket has their son they vote for it but if it doesn't .... they vote objectively. Now, you see why 2015 is 'the' year of reckoning? I guess I'm loving the stalemate: who will win, who will be declared, and who will lose.....This, indeed, will make a blockbuster.

Isn't that the only reason Ibos are standing behind Ebele Jonathan?

Mogidi:
Christians in the SW may have been trampled upon but Christians in the North Central SS/SE have not been subjugated as the ones in the SW.
A Buhari/Fashola is a hint the SW and the North wants full sharia. We will not be part of it.

Why do you hate so much? What happened in your childhood that made you so filled with hate as an adult?

Justcash:
It's okay, your view is respected. I guess you under-estimate the consequences of a PDP politicians' backed MEND group. I pray it doesn't come to that.

Not if the full might of the Nigerian Govt is used to counter them and defend the Nation, they don't stand a chance in hell.

A serious President that wont stand by and watch as his Army chiefs steal money meant for the soldiers won't be one scared to visit any part of his own territory, nor will he be one to allow PDP wreck havoc on his country.
Nigeria's only problem is corruption, eliminate that and watch all these criminal elements you seem to fear so much, disappear.

Rexxie:
you all know the victory the govt is claiming over the bh can be attributed to one fact: the bh suddenly found themselves in some bigger river and took or mistook themselves to be crocs and declared a caliphate and territory and that gave the na the egde..the bh do not have the capacity to stand the na on a convectional warfare,even the dogs know that,but when it comes to playing the insurgency and terrorist card,then you got a different ball game. Don't pray for that. Yes theres nothing wrong in the govt of whoever crushing insurgency and militancy,but theres everything wrong in the govt trampling on ppl's rights and marginalising and neglecting regions,especially the region of the golden eggs laying goose..
Like i said earlier,if buhari somehow someway finds his arsse at the villa,hessure gonna screw up the amnesty program and n.delta dedicated ministries and agencies someway and am saying this based on his past expressions he couldnt bottle up when having a press conference time back and things certainly gonna fall apart..
Buhari cant belong to the usual wicked school of thought that the poverty and insurgency in the north is attributable to money allocated to the n.delta,hell, and does something about and against it and expect to party. He cant afford that.
Now pay attention and make no mistakes over this two facts..
1. That gej,a n.deltan,is president does'nt mean the degradation,denigration,exploitation and pollution of the n.delta is now a thing of the past. The n.deltans,including your so called fat frogs ex militants,know that..and
2. #GEJ TILL'19

We are both on the same page with everything thing you said, unless, of course, the "#GEJ Till '19" part. I can assure you this: if Buhari is President of Nigeria, the Niger-Delta will have it better than they presently have it. Money will be spent for exactly what is budgeted for and won't end up in someone's Swiss Bank Account a la Ibori, Alams and co.

netoc65:
note DAT asari was tried even when obasanjo was president and what happened he is still free today

That's true. But note this, if by providence a change in government happens in Nigeria there will be a significant change in how a lot of things happen. And it just means that Nigerians now demand higher standards from their Govt and you know what that portends? Nigerians are tired of criminal elements like Asari Dokubo and will keep mum if the law takes its course.

If Nigerians reject GEJ, it just means that Nigerians have finally realized the power of their votes and want to move in the same group as the rest of the successful parts of the world.

Say Nigerians reject GEJ, a (probable) Buhari and Fashola Govt will have no choice but to set a better standard than the previous Govt. The Govt after them (Buhari/Fashola) will now also be forced to set better standards than that of their predecessors...and so on and so forth. And who wins in this scenario? The Nigerian people!

So, unless the Nigerian people accept mediocrity next February, then, yes, Dokubo will still remain a free man. But, if the elements that control the universe have decided that enough is enough and that it's time the sufferings of Nigerians is alleviated, there is no doubt in my mind that before the end of 2015 either of these three things will happen:

1. Asari will be in jail.

2. Asari will start singing the praises of the new Govt.

3. Asari will flee Nigeria.


Change means change, and I think Nigerians want change and they will demand--and get it--next year.

JoshuaKay:
I rather prefer Fashola/Okorocha pairing. Buhari is just an old dog that can never learn new tricks.

How many of your family members will vote for them?

Asoozy:
Adams is Muslim too.

From a Muslim family. He's Christian.

Gabbysky:
I don't think the new MEND will wage a war against the NA, it'll be against Oil and Gas Production,.

If you blow up anything---and you weren't legally authorized to do so--- you've effectively waged war against Nigeria, and in effect, against the Nigerian Army.