IngeniousLeez:
Cc itspreshh

Bleach is definitely popular...very popular...
Sure not as much as Naruto or One piece but there is a reason it's called BIG 3...
They were they top selling 3 mangas on the magazine at that time

Bleach return was number 1 trending Worldwide and you think it isn't popular enough?

It's just that Bleach is not as popular among NEWER anime fans compared to the rest of the Big 3...but it was definitely among the shows most anime fans watched back in the days with Naruto and One Piece

For Demon Slayer, I don't even know where the hype came from...I never heard of it before the anime adaptation...
Then all of a sudden it became very big and the manga started breaking record sales...
From what I hear, Demon Slayer sales was sparked by the anime

Kaycee7:

I don't argue numbers based on what I think but what I know and can prove. Peep the date

You can keep exaggerating MAPPA's influence.

this was a periodic iish...
That was it's peak...
I'm pretty sure it's not the only new gen to surpass One Piece at a point...
But One Piece has remained consistent at the top


I'm not saying CSM wasn't popular...
I'm pointing out that it wasn't as popular as mangas like Bleach, Demon Slayer and many top animanga or light novels like Fate...
Even JJK too was popular but you can't compare it's popularity to some of those...

Kaycee7:
CSM surpassed One Piece, a currently serializing Big 3 manga, in reads on Manga Plus and had 12 million copies in circulation before it even got an anime adaptation. This was in 2020 before TYBW's anime adaptation got announced in 2021. That's how big the fanbase was before the first trailer was even released. Before MAPPA came into the picture, CSM already had a multi-million strong fanbase.
I'm not denying MAPPA 's influence. I'm simply asking you not to exaggerate it.

CSM surpassed One Piece where? When?

As far as I know CSM was nowhere near One Piece before the anime announcement

Kaycee7:
Lol! MAPPA picked up a show that was already breaking the internet with the 3rd season and ruling manga charts and you want to credit the success of the 4th season to MAPPA.
Funny how both CSM and AoT both already had massive fanbases behind them before MAPPA picked them up but you want to claim it was "because of MAPPA's marketing".
Maybe next season, you'll also claim Vinland Saga's success will be due to MAPPA's marketing, even though we won't see that same success with Camping Cooking Isekai that will also air that same season.

Show us an actual unpopular title that MAPPA made famous

oga ...
AOT was very very popular before Mappa...but Mappa's marketing made it even more popular than it was...

For ChainsawMan...the I've given you a comparison of the fanbase...
It was not as big as you'd think...
It was nowhere as big as shows like Bleach but look at how big the anime has become now?

You cannot deny MAPPA'S influence

Another example of MAPPA promotion is Attack on Titan...
As big as AOT is, it didn't reach the levels of popularity it reached until MAPPA took over...


AOT spent 3 seasons from 2013-2019 under Wit studio but never did...but in it's first year under MAPPA, MAPPA did outstanding promotion


It can't be a coincidence honestly
So many non-anime fans began watching it...same way non-anime fans have started on Chainsawm Man

abduleez1:


LMFAO.... You just can't be using Marvel as an example in this argument.

Marvel have the biggest fanbase of any cinematic universe presently. No one comes close.
MCU has been wildly successful over the years and it's mostly due to its fans and not necessarily has to do with good marketing.
Marvel can make a movie about shitty characters with shitty scripts and ppl will still turn up to watch. Not about marketing.

Eg Despite the shitty trailers and complaints from fans didn't stop ppl from watching She-Hulk and Thor: Love and Thunder.

The fanbase that's why you'd see ppl flock more to Batman content over something like Black Adam that I feel was over marketed. Despite no Batman in Joker, no action, an unusual and unfamiliar story, and critics initially shitting on it, people still flocked theaters in 2019 and it delivered a banger.

MCU no doubt has a huge fanbase...bigger than DCEU but marketing also adds to it...
Look at the marketing of Black Panther, became like an anthem for Blacks around the world...


Now for CSM...
Did CSM have a bigger fanbase than Bleach?
Yet the CSM trailer had far more views...
CSM opening on MAPPA channel has 31m views in 3 weeks...
Bleach opening is struggling with less than 2m views
CSM is one of the most promoted anime in recent time....
Posters everywhere, every channel talking about it...


You can't say it's cos it's a new anime...MAPPA definitely had something to do with it...
There is a reason MAPPA became one of the most popular anime studios recently

ChainsawMan Fanbase was never large enough to carry hype to that level... nowhere near Bleach fanbase...
Most anime fans grew up with Naruto, Bleach and One Piece

Kaycee7:
Marvel leases out Times Square's biggest billboard for their blockbusters, pay for various TV spots on prime time shows, have the lead cast appear on multiple talk shows and sports events.
Are you seeing the difference?

And even with all that still, the fanbase still plays an important role. Cos Marvel aren't the only studio that does all that. It's standard Hollywood marketing for big studios.

sure...Marvel spends way more...


For the Mappa iish, does CSM have a bigger fanbase than Bleach? Yet it drew as much hype or even more hype than Bleach...
Even the trailers had more views...
Each opening and closing song had more views than a bigger anime...


As popular as CSM is, it had nowhere near the Bleach popularity...
You can't deny MAPPA'S influence

Kaycee7:
That a studio released a trailer on a new anime no be hype. It's basic marketing.
I also didn't know about Eminence in Shadow until I came across the trailer. Does that make Nexus the king of hype?
Different anime studios have their trailers pop up on my feed. Should I also crown all them kings of hype?

Nobody said anime trailers don't help with hype. They're promotional materials afterall. But acting like they're the primary source of the hype? That's just disingenuous.
Who dey deny say MAPPA is good at marketing? It's the "king of hype" exaggeration that's being addressed here. Don't try to strawman.
MAPPA is just as good at marketing as other popular anime studio. There's nothing exceptional about their marketing. They make announcements and release trailers just like every other studio. Nothing out of the ordinary.

you can as well say Marvel are not specially good at marketing...
It's the fans, every studio can hype just as Marvel nah...

Using your logic

*Edited...okay you didn't deny that Mappa is good at marketing...so no problem

Kaycee7:
And the manga fanbase were the ones who generated the hype. 1 million views within an hour on YouTube while also trending on Twitter and garnering thousands of upvotes on Reddit. IN ONE HOUR
The fanbase was already waiting since the trailer release was announced and they started a hype roll that snowballed into the massive reception the anime is getting now.

Like I asked, has another trailer from MAPPA popped up on your feed? Of course not. Because they haven't released anything else with a big fanbase yet. You didn't get the trailer for Dance Dance Danseur and you're not going to have the trailer for the Campfire Cooking Isekai pop up on your feed because none of them are pulling a million views in an hour or 7 million in 11 hours. Dance Dance Danseur's trailer never got up to a million views up till now and the anime itself was well received when it was aired in the Spring season, but still remained underwatched.

Chainsaw Man wasn't as popular as some other manga? NAME THOSE MANGA. Let's see which of them are new.

What was the last new MAPPA anime with big hype? Jujutsu Kaisen. Another title that already had a big manga fanbase.

MAPPA are not the kings of hype. They don't contribute any more hype to a project than any other popular studio.

Mappa trailers have been popping on my feed bro...
No be today ..
Hell's Paradise, Takt OP etc...
I didn't know shii about all these before

MAPPA btw has dropped some of the best anime trailers of recent years...

Chainsaw Man Trailer 1 and 2
AOT trailer
JJK trailer
Idaten Deites trailer was good too

Yes those shows were popular beforehand but their trailers helped with the hype
Mappa are good at marketing, deny it all you want...


Ask most new gen anime fans their fav studio...
80% of them will choose MAPPA

Out for download

Kaycee7:
And do you think the trailer just happened to pop up on yours and 7 million feeds in 11 hours?

Why don't the trailers for other MAPPA show pull 7 million views in 11 hours if they're the "kings of hype"?

Has any other MAPPA trailer popped up on your feed since then?

I'm talking about the first trailer.
It generated a lot of hype and drew in more manga readers including me.

The 2nd trailer multiplied the hype
I'm not denying the fact that ChainsawMan manga was popular before but it wasn't even as popular as some others before the anime was announced

All my accounts getting banned randomly is funny sha

Kaycee7:
What made you watch the trailer?

cos it's Mappa and it popped up?

Same Mappa making AOT final season...
So I obviously watched and loved it...
I even downloaded the trailer song

Kaycee7:
MAPPA no be kings of any hype. CSM manga was already big before the anime announcement even dropped. The fanbase drove the hype, not MAPPA.

the fanbase was big but nowhere near as big as the hype grew for the anime...
MAPPA are damn good with hype...

I didn't give a f about CSM before I saw the trailer...
Then I binged the manga in a day and half

nkiliuzo:
na only you and this so called people liked bleach starting from the 16th episode, me loved it from episode 1 and bro jjk first three episode over csm own anytime, anyday! you had gojo vs sukuna in 1st epi, then that fight scene in episode 3, you don't know wetin u dey talk! whatever tho, everyone to their own cup of tea

Bleach was definitely boring until episode 16...
They spent the first 15 episodes with character introductions and fighting random hollows...
It wasn't until Byakuya and Renji appeared that the show kicked off...

30 seconds fight between Gojo and Sakuna?
What epic fight in episode 3?
Nobara fight against a curse?


Again my point stands that you hated CSM even before you saw episode 1...cos you saw the hype...

MAPPA are kings of hype...plus they have some of the best trailers for anime...
CSM fans can be annoying just like most anime fans...

Anime fans must compare...
Even one on this group said Black Lagoon is better than Attack on Titan...
I did not hate Black Lagoon because of what he said

All Quiet on the Western Front....7/10

Movie does well to show the futility of war and it's tragedy and how the govt toyed with the life of soldiers
However I personally struggle with character appearances and looks in German movies and series and it happened here again...
I can barely recognize or differentiate the looks of characters.

Also the movie imo doesn't do enough to focus on the characters...instead it's focusing on the broader picture and the war so much that it feels more like a documentary...

I personally still prefer war movies like 71: Into the Fire which focused on characters and helped the audience empathize with them.

Someone people were overhyping it here...
I almost fell for the hype...till I did research and discovered it was mid af...

Good thing I didn't waste my time watching it

nkiliuzo:
rest! I have watched other shows where by the first or three episodes blew me away! jujutsu kaisen for one, demon slayer etc, so don't be misyarning there, probably CSM will get better but to me it has been mid so far! emphasis on the "so far", it's been almost a decade since I last watched bleach but even someone watching it for the first time would be impressed! am only basing my argument on only the anime since that's the only one I've seen, stop using the manga lingo of CSM to argue with me.

again...it's only mid to you cos you obviously hated it even before you even watched it...
Based on your statement about fans hyping it over Bleach I can infer that...

And it's a well know fact that Bleach didn't get good until episode 16 lol ..
Bleach was my 2nd anime after Naruto and it's still one of my fav but it took 16 episodes to get into...
Most people agree it wasn't until episode 16 it got good...

And you can't tell me Jujutsu Kaisen had a better first 3 episodes than CSM...
That's not possible...I love JJK but no way it's first 3 are better...there was barely any backstory or anything by episode 3...
Episode 3 was where Nobara was introduced...I watch reaction videos of JJK so I remember it well

abduleez1:
Almost shed tears earlier this morning....

1Gig of data just vanish on top YouTube.
I used a VPN on YouTube and thing just unlinked all my downloaded videos. I knew it might react that way cos It has happened some years back (2018) but didn't anticipate the shït I saw.
I thought things might have changed but e be like YouTube brain no dey change.

Normally, back then it'd just refresh the thumbnails and make the vids available to you after you switch off the VPN and use a normal connection. Takes little data.
I had forgotten I had amassed a large library of offline videos in YouTube over time. I had like 304 vids. I Underestimated the size of my library.
Instead of it to just refresh my videos back to normal, it started redownloading them from ground up despite having the core file in its memory.

I had to delete several videos permanently make e no consume my data finish. I lost some videos I would have loved to keep a little longer. From 300+ vids to now 108 videos.

For this Naija wey data price don hike na en YouTube do me this strong thing. Life no balance. E be like say na to start the pain of downloading my YouTube content permanently into my phone instead of YouTube's app.

Make I just use the 2GB+ of entertainment wey I download console myself.

I use an external YouTube downloader called VIDMATE so I cannot relate ...

But sorry ehn...next time use an external downloader or a site

ChainsawMan episode 4 preview

ChainsawMan episode 4 preview

No way these aren't personal

No way these aren't personal

The Simpsons did a Death Note crossover

I believe this is a snippet
Funny af...
The deaths were very creative



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNmDZCQ3eIY

The Simpsons did a Death Note crossover

I believe this is a snippet
Funny af...
The deaths were very creative



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNmDZCQ3eIY

Imagine a Bleach fan complaining about 3 episodes of a show..

Bleach that almost bored me out the first 16 episodes...until the appearance of Byakuya and Renji

Even Naruto didn't get good till episode 20

It took me about 150 episodes to get into One Piece...

But criticizing a show that has one of the best pilot episodes I've seen this year in anime after just 3 episodes...wtf

nkiliuzo:
don't know what you are on about but this is how bleach animation tends to be, it's the plot that normally carries the show and once in a while depending on how massive the fight scene is, they tend to up the budget and animation for that particular episode... am not being toxic more like defensive, a lot of CSM fans were going on about how the show was going to blow bleach away, so far so good, I haven't been impressed! the fight scenes sef tend to annoy me cos I cant see the rawness of the fight, the chainsaw just slices through and boom the villain is dead! and there's blood everywhere, it's not like jujutsu kaisen where you get to see a fight scene in all its glory and plot is dumb so far, the dude motivation is to touch a girl boob! not doing it for me tho, sh!t, I like boochi the rock and the new gundam more than CSM

my issue with the new bleach animation is how colourful it is ...
Especially how Hueco Mundo looks and how the characters look ...
That's a personal issue as most people like it anyway...


For CSM...all you're saying is blind hate...
We've seen Denji's backstory and understand why he is that way...besides he will start growing and learning probably in today's episode sef...
I've read the manga so I know what's to come...
Unfair when you're using a character flaw to judge an entire show...even other characters acknowledge how Denji is...u can see how easily Power used him as a result of him being naive...
He will grow

Does CSM have peak story? No
But the manga is damn good...the imagery, visual storytelling and characters...and of course the craziness

Season 1 will probably end with the Katana arc ...a pretty crazy arc but still nowhere near the arcs that are to come in later seasons


And finally, stop comparing Bleach that had 366 episodes to get us into characters and so needs no new character introduction...to another show that is just beginning with 3 episodes out


I love bleach but if we compare the first 3 episodes of Bleach to CSM you know CSM blows it out of the water...
Bleach didn't get good until episode 16

ChainsawMan Episode 4 preview

Kobeni is finally making an appearance



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVded854VYs

ChainsawMan Episode 4 preview

Kobeni is finally making an appearance



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVded854VYs

My Life as Inukai-san's Dog TV anime for broadcast January 6, 2023..


As someone who read part of the manga....
Holy shiit Peak Fiction!!!




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ID_gMmbBaUw

nkiliuzo:
mehn, this season of bleach is goated!! like wtf! best anime so far for me this year, people were now saying chainsaw man will be better... anime that has been mid so far

both shows are great...
Stop being toxic like most anime fans that shiit on one show because they like another
I've read the manga for both


For me I'm not a fan of the new bleach animation style tho ...I prefer the old style like the one used in Fullbring Arc and Fake Kurakura Town Arc