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lanrexlan:
Sorry bro,you aren't a reformist but a 'deformist'.No one can stood by you because your ideology is wack.You keep tagging people as orthodox muslims,extremists,rejecting you are a 'muslim' and at the same time,trying to portrait yourself as person that is an Islamic 'reformer'.
The only person that share your views is an hatetheist,he's your pen pal.

So, you chose to insult him rather than address his points.


Please, here is a thread on good islamic manners; https://www.nairaland.com/1943131/good-manners-islam

Read it, embrace it and practice it

Unfortunately, millions of muslims smoke in public.

Some see it as halal but i think many see it as haram

davien:
i am not sure why you instantly brought up "if the brain is just chemicals and matter..." yet still such a re-arrangement after death is impossible......
as biological beings that need to sustain ourselves with biochemical energy....we are constantly re-arranging cells(and destroying cells) as we age.....that is why you never look 100% the same as when you were 5.....that configuration of cells has been modified....and when you die....the process stops....the energy is then given back to the environment albeit in the conversion of the lifeless husk that was once you into useful energy by saprophytic organisms....

look at the bold in your comment.....how is such a rearrangement after death impossible?

What makes people unique? dna? What if people have the same dna? The same shape of brain etc? What really hinders reincarnation?


I'm sure you are one of those close minded atheists! Science without religion. Science without the wonder

davien:
so a thought can prove "everlasting life"?

if the brain is just chemicals and matter, who is to say that our chemicals and matter cant rearrange at another time? Reincarnation?


Heaven awaits

davien:
And you know this how?

Think about it.

The mind is stronger than the body.

Noooooooo.


Say no to ebola immigrants to Nigeria!!!!!!!!

neroflo:
y not.....i fart always during sex
so whatcha mean

One word for you-

"INCONTINENCE"

davien:
Among most if not all religions has come the promise of prolonged or everlasting life.....but how do we know this to be true?
how do we know with 100% accuracy that this is true?
For most people it is true because a book says so...
For others it is true because they can't fathom an only mortal life...
For the others still... they have convinced themselves of it being true...
Here lies the question.....when what you believe cannot be taken as true on its own merits but through unsourced and unfalsify-able ways and then passed on to others especially children as 100% accurate....is it indistinguishable from deceit?

What is wrong with everlasting life?

Death is only the beginning.

yazach:
Are you saying the following simple explanation given by Abdulsalam20 is not clear enough to make you shut up when the OP has already rest in an imperfect peace or you are deliberately being a denial of truth?
LET ME EXPLAIN IT FOR YOU
1. The Arabic word " ashidda " does not mean harsh or ruthless, but strong and firm. Ruthless or harsh is an unacceptable translation.

2. Also, the disbelievers being referred to in these verses are the those who persecuted and attacked the Muslims.
Shaykh Fawzee Al-Atharee said the following:
And similarly the disbeliever, if he has good character with us and good
manners with us and good way and treatment with us, then we have good
manners with him, good behaviour with him, good way with him and good
treatment of him. And if his manners are bad and his behaviour is bad [i.e.
abusive and cruel], then we treat him with accordance to how he is treating
us. This is something permissible in the legislation. But the Prophet s.a.w.s.
has indicated very clearly in all the narrations that have been brought and
throughout his life, that there must be a matter of balance and to be just. And
that is in dealing with the people of disbelief and also in dealing with those
who have faith.


3. The Muslims were commanded to stand up for their religion and defend themselves against the persecution of the
disbelievers. Again, if we examine the historical context, we also find that this is referring to those who attacked the
Muslims continuously. So verses apply in a situation similar to the historical context . Since this verse mentions the
companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and praises their path,

4 e very same day, Thumamah returned and declared his acceptance of Islam
to the Prophet Muhammad. So we find that the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his companions
displayed the best character and attitude towards all people and this is what drew so many people to Islam. As the
God says in the Qur'an:
3:159. And by the Mercy of God, you dealt with them gently. And had you been
severe and harsh-hearted, they would have ran away from about you; so
pass over (their faults), and ask (God's) Forgiveness for them; and consult
them in the affairs. Then when you have taken a decision, put your trust in All
‚h, certainly, All‚h loves those who put their trust (in Him).


5. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was commanded by God to bring people to the teachings of Islam
through the beautiful character that Muslims must show. The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) conveyed
this message to others by saying:
He who is not merciful to others, will not be treated mercifully. (Muslim,
Volume 8, Book 73, Number 42)


The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) always displayed tolerance and compassion in his dealings with
people, including Non-Muslims. Dr. M. Hamidullah explains the following points:
When the Prophet Mohammed settled down in Medina, he found there
complete anarchy, the region having never known before either a State or a
king to unite the tribes torn by internecine feuds. In just a few weeks, he
succeeded in rallying all the inhabitants of the region into order. He
constituted a city state, in which Muslims, Jews, pagan Arabs and also
probably a small number of Christians, all entered into a statal organism by
means of a social contract. The constitutional law of this first 'Muslim' State -
which was the confederacy as a sequence of the multiplicity of the population
groups - has come down to us in toto, and we read therein not only in clause
25: "to Muslims their religion, and to Jews their religion," or, "that there would
be benevolence and justice," but even the unexpected passage in the same
clause 25: "the Jews . . . are a community (in alliance) with - according Ibn
Hisham and in the version of Abu-'Ubaid, a community (forming part) of - the
believers (i.e., Muslims)." The very fact that, at the time of the constitution of
this city-state, the autonomous Jewish villages acceded of their free will to the
confederal State, and recognized Muhammad as their supreme political head,
implies in our opinion that the non-Muslim subjects possessed the right of
votes in the election of the head of the Muslim State, at least in so far as the
political life of the country was concerned. (Hamidullah, Introduction to Islam ,
paragraphs 414-416)



6.DONT MISQOTE THE QURAN AGAIN....YOU CAN CHECK FOR THIS IN THE BIBLE

www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/terrorinthebible.htm


QURAN DID NOT CONTAIN ANY VERSE OF TERROR OR UNJUST PUISHMENT

okay oooo!

Abdulsalam20:
MR MAN WHY MISUOTING THE QURAN?

LET ME EXPLAIN IT FOR YOU
1. The Arabic word " ashidda " does not mean harsh or ruthless, but strong and firm. Ruthless or harsh is an unacceptable translation.



QURAN DID NOT CONTAIN ANY VERSE OF TERROR OR UNJUST PUISHMENT

Sahih International
Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.



Muhsin Khan
Muhammad (SAW) is the Messenger of Allah, and those who are with him are severe against disbelievers, and merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and falling down prostrate (in prayer), seeking Bounty from Allah and (His) Good Pleasure. The mark of them (i.e. of their Faith) is on their faces (foreheads) from the traces of (their) prostration (during prayers). This is their description in the Taurat (Torah). But their description in the Injeel (Gospel) is like a (sown) seed which sends forth its shoot, then makes it strong, it then becomes thick, and it stands straight on its stem, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the disbelievers with them. Allah has promised those among them who believe (i.e. all those who follow Islamic Monotheism, the religion of Prophet Muhammad SAW till the Day of Resurrection) and do righteous good deeds, forgiveness and a mighty reward (i.e. Paradise).



Pickthall
Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel - like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers - that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.



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1) I put three official quranic English translations of the passage and they all use harsh words against the unbelievers

2) The opposite of "merciful" is "merciless" and not "firm"