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Christianity Etc › Re: How Would We Run An Atheist Church? by JackBizzle(op): 9:53pm On Jan 10, 2017
Born2Freak:
hehee! Why not nah?

Daddy GO Adeboye's shade got a whole chairman of FRCN fired. Church get swagg. Confam!

We atheist sef suppose get church too wey dey get money. cheesy


If there were anything like a secular church, I imagine that there should be a quick discussion about community issues and then there should be like a get-together afterwards. Just drink and chill after.....maybe some shisha too!!! cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
Great idea, babe. I was actually thinking of something similar. A quick discussion of current affairs, then drink and chill. Exchange contacts and socialize.
Christianity Etc › Re: How Would We Run An Atheist Church? by JackBizzle(op): 9:49pm On Jan 10, 2017
Geestarry:
Can you please not call it a Church. The word church is already peculiar to Christianity and you know that.
Temple?
Christianity Etc › Re: How Would We Run An Atheist Church? by JackBizzle(op): 9:49pm On Jan 10, 2017
Elkay3:
If it's a "church", then it's not for atheist. There should be another name, or coin it up.
We're open to ideas
Christianity Etc › Re: How Would We Run An Atheist Church? by JackBizzle(op): 9:48pm On Jan 10, 2017
hopefulLandlord:
I am a Pastafarian and I already have my church

Name: Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

God we adore: Flying Spaghetti Monster, the one true God that made the heavens and the earth with proof that's staring people in the face
Sharaap.

We need a Nigerian church. Your pastafarian crap wont work here. grin grin
Christianity Etc › How Would We Run An Atheist Church? by JackBizzle(op): 9:19pm On Jan 10, 2017
Point of correction- secular church and not atheist church

I am tired of the influence of religion in Nigerian politics. These churches have billions of Naira and wield a lot of power. A church can shut down traffic without suffering consequences. hmmph!


So, I want to start a secular church but i need good ideas. Be serious oo! We atheists too need that tax-free income. Let's make billions!!


1) What should we call the church?
Anointing Holy Nuclear Fire Ministries?
Humanist church of Nigeria?
Dawkins ministries of science and wonder?
Mountain of Evidence ministries?
Church of the Atom?


2) What would be our sunday programme?
Quick 20 mins sermon then family barbecue?
Debates and guest speakers on philosophy?
Marijuana parties and orgies?




Abeg, I need your ideas.


Plaetton, hahn, hopefullandlord, lepasharon, 4kings, oluwseyi000, jonbellion, hardmirror, mrmontella, deepsight, johnydon22, cloudgoddess.
Family › Re: Reason Why We Are All Slaves by JackBizzle: 4:54pm On Jan 10, 2017
Hello, I heard that you're a slave to mumu-ism
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 9:26am On Jan 10, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
By what standard is God being judged ? And who made that standard right ?
Even by God's own standard in the bible, he is a hypocrite.


1) Incest is bad. Bad guy Yahweh goes on to start the world twice with incest (Adam/Eve + Noah's family)
Some of his prophets/main men were even incestuous perverts- Abraham and his half sister

2) Thou shalt not kill. Bad guy Yahweh sends the isrealites to canaan to commit genocide. Bad guy Yahweh even floods the whole world and drowns almost everyone.


And many more
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 9:46pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Based on logic : communists wiped out 200 million people (ripple effect inclusive) because they thought these people will preclude their objectives and goals from being actualized .

These communists felt that their goals were the best for the advancement of humanity and that man not God determines what's right or wrong - with this perception you can commit whatever evil and claim its good . Just like the communists .

You can't have objective morality without God . Its impossible . grin
undecided


JackBizzle:
A God that you have never seen or heard from
A God that has a chosen race (isrealites) like a racist
A God that commands the slaughter of women and children
A God that tests his servant (Abraham) by telling him to sacrifice his son
A God that sends his only begotten son to die
A God that claims that he is a "jealous God"
A God that once flooded the earth and left an incestuous family (Noah's family) as an example.



God is not great. God is not good. God is not moral
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 9:31pm On Jan 09, 2017
skeendyke:
Pretty strong words or purely ignorant words. Show Biblical verses against unbelievers and show Biblical verses that are used to support black slavery as well as freedom of black slaves.

Show the world that you have actually read the bible and understand it to be able to confidently make these assertions.
grin

Google is your friend. Type "slavery in the bible". Tell us what you find.

I'm tired of posting the same verses over and over again. Moreover, you are more likely to see the truth when you search for it in person
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 9:29pm On Jan 09, 2017
Anas09:
Am shocked you could still post this as your lifeline for this arguement.

What you posted here stands against you.

Why are they apologising if what they did was commanded by the one whom they claimed to serve?
This is why i call you Mr illogical.

In Christianity there's what we call repentance. It means to have a recourse, a change of heart concerning a way or pattern of living which wasn't in line with the stipulated rules and regulations of a certain society or organization.

The West used their might to prey on the weak, now they know they were wrong and apologizing for it, yet you still brought it up.

Logicboy, na waa.

You came up telling me that Christianity took slaves by using the Bible, i said proof it, you threw in Western Church's apologies for disobeying Christ by taking slaves of their fellow men?
There is slavery in the bible. Many other atheists have posted the verses.

I cant do this again for the thousandth time. Please, remain ignorant abeg. I cant be bothered wasting good arguments on you anymore
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 9:27pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Wetin ?

You don't understand the post ?

I have objective morality that's why I can (though I have not ) say that something is bad or good .

But the atheists have subjective morality , good or bad is from a personal perspective - this means , it makes no sense condemning another person because that which he has done is good from his own personal perspective .

Comprende ?
All atheists are the same abi?

The humanists
The buddhists
The rationalists
The confucianists


They all have the same morality abi?


FYI, humanists follow an objective morality based on logic.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 7:25pm On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
grin how typical, when atheists get cornered, they immediately try to change the topic to the bible while ignoring the part of ur post where u challenged their views.

And u still confused, u hold on to subjective morality, basically u can't criticize anything without being inconsistent, racism isn't evil on atheism, u just disapprove of it becuz u live in a society that disproves of it. If lived in a society where it was accept, u be condemning anyone who wasn't a racist. Because on ur worldview there's nothing objectively wrong with racism. Remember what dawkins said?

"Justin Brierley: Ultimately, your belief that rape is wrong is as arbitrary as the fact that we've evolved five fingers rather than six.

Richard Dawkins: You could say that, yeah."
......says the dumbo that knows nothing about humanist philosophy.


What fruitful discussion is there to be had with you that knows nothing about morality from another religion? Like a myopic fool, you only see morality from one religion when there are thousands of religions? How can one discuss morality with you? You are ignorant and proud of that ignorance
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 7:00pm On Jan 09, 2017
KingEbukasBlog:
Richard Dawkins epitomizes the foolishness of atheism . If you claim morality is subjective , why condemn another person's moral values ?
undecided

Dawkins is an atheist pastor abi?

Please, let me see the quote for your claims.....where did Dawkins say such? You know that we cant trust you based on your lying history?
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 6:59pm On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
Lol nope, morality is grounded in the God.
A God that you have never seen or heard from
A God that has a chosen race (isrealites) like a racist
A God that commands the slaughter of women and children
A God that tests his servant (Abraham) by telling him to sacrifice his son
A God that sends his only begotten son to die
A God that claims that he is a "jealous God"
A God that once flooded the earth and left an incestuous family (Noah's family) as an example.



God is not great. God is not good. God is not moral
Christianity Etc › Re: Adeboye Blasts FG Over Laws Against Christians, Tells RCCG To Prepare For 2019 by JackBizzle: 3:47pm On Jan 09, 2017
KahlDrogo:
These so called pastors and GOs are just pained they are being asked to give back to the society a little fraction of what they steal from the same society.

As a matter of fact, if i am made the president today, i would ensure all churches and mosques, no matter how small, are charged exactly the same way normal businesses are; tbese people make more money combined, than telecoms. angry
Sir, you'll have my vote

wink
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 3:32pm On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
I'm talking about deluding urself by thinking objective morality is possible with atheism, Sam Harris for example believed in that delusion. All christians believe morality is objective, but that doesn't mean they must always be right in their moral judgments.
Humanism.

Secular humanism. That is where many atheist derive their moral philosophy from.


Go and read bro.

By definition, christianity is actually subjective morality.

If you favour a certain race of people, you are not objective because you are subjective and biased towards the people (Isrealites)
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 12:48pm On Jan 09, 2017
Anas09:
Okay, start by giving examples.

Say, Mr A did this bad thing and this is the verse of the Bible he used as a yardstick.
And, Mr B, did that bad thing, and went agaisnt this verse of the Bible to do it.
Common, lets go.

This is one of the reasons i kepp from responding to you, you are so lite.

So, accodring to you the Bible enjoined the west to take slaves of Africans? But what about the Jews, the very choosen people of God being enslaved over and over again by nations around them? the Bible commanded that too?

Okay, for once lets go, bring out this slavery passages from the Bible lets trash them and see if what the Bible calls slave s is what the Wast or Arabs did to Africans.
The christian American slave-holders used the bible to justify the slavery of blacks. This is well known fact. American churches even apologised for their role in slavery. Typican african guy like you would prefer to live in denial
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2006/feb/09/religion.world
http://www.christianitytoday.com/gleanings/2016/june/pca-apologizes-for-new-and-old-racism.html



This is a simple example of bad christianity
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 11:11am On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
Atheists can delude themselves all they want with those principles and philosophies, u still not going to get objective morality.
Hypocrite!

Christians can delude themselves all they want with those principles and philosophies from different denominations.

MFM guys dont drink

Jehovah's witnesses wont give blood to a dying patient

Seven day adventists are vegetarians..



mtcheww.....as if christianity is any cornerstone on morality!
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 10:28am On Jan 09, 2017
Nigayoyo:
It's dangerous to openly identify as an atheist in the bible belt of the US (i.e. southern US)..Thank God I'm an atheist in the Midwestern US!
Trump is coming for you! grin
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 10:14am On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
Atheism implies moral relativism, which u probably hold to right? So calling other people wicked doesn't really mean anything much.
There are atheists who follow humanist philosophy on morality

Some atheist follow buddhist principles

Some follow secular rationalist principles


etc...


My guy, get some sense
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 9:46am On Jan 09, 2017
Anas09:
What do mean by "Bad Christians?"
Christians who use the bible/religion to do bad things

Or

Christians who go against the bible to do bad things.


The bible has so many verses against unbelievers, which you should know. The same bible that was used to free black slaves was also used to enslave the blacks in the first place
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:59am On Jan 09, 2017
HardMirror:
Was "from pastor to atheist" a fake story?

Read between the lines, you all have been well played. You think those who came to debunk the dead brothers segment did not know the authenticity of the story? Why was the focus only on the brother's death? Did you fail to see the comments where one talked about his dad being the one refered to in the outreach to Ajabuto village and I asked him to ask about the Brother who was the Co-minister that the crusade (which was me) and he has refused to reply till date?
Or did you miss when one also can claiming he is a member of Life Oasis Church, the church where I ended as an atheist and he claimed that when I was there I was only after titles?

The christians where communicating off nairaland and all worked together to shift everyone's attention from the facts of the story to an aspect that was not personal to me, the dead brother was indeed a sketchy part and I honestly don't have much details to support it, but what about the rest of the story?
Yes, the christians, in their dubious nature, ganged up against you from behind the scenes.

It was hilarious.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:45am On Jan 09, 2017
HardMirror:
Nice one op. There are no worse people than christians precisely. They are self righteous, claim to love so much but wish for nothing than that other people suffer so as to promote their own righteousness. A people that believe they would have joy in heaven while many burn in hell, which wld include members of their own family, friends, neighbors etc. Yes, they would be singing and rejoicing happy they were among the few that made it. They celebrate the delusion that only a few people will make heaven while majority would burn in hell.
They wld rather give offerings and tithes than help those who really need money.

They rich come to church to show off how much they have that others don't have.

Testimonies are actually subtle ways of showing off. Yeah you go a job with CBN, you must rush to church to show off in the guise of giving testimony.

You were in an accident, 20 people die and only you survive, you must run to church and show off. You are so special, god needs you live, you have a purpose, that is why you are alive. those that died are useless

Do I have christians? I absolutely do without apology. They are the worst set of hypocrites
Well said.

Good to see you back on form.

But please, no more fake stories grin grin
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:44am On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
Your atheistic lying tendencies are kicking in, no wer did I say or even imply that there aren't bad christians, you made that up. I also don't evens know what the hell it means to called christians immoral on atheism, there's no such thing as evil or good on atheism.
Just look at the nonsense you typed in bold. Is atheism a religion or moral system? Ode.
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:40am On Jan 09, 2017
HardMirror:
How is the story fake? So one information was wrong that made the story fake? Tell me something I don't know cos it seems you know more than I do.
You didnt admit your exaggerations early enough. Your story made sense though
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:01am On Jan 09, 2017
Omudia11:
Atheism is a mental illness. The only cure is Jesus!
As if there are not mad christians that eat grass for their pastors
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 8:00am On Jan 09, 2017
Richirich713:
Get real, that thread about that women assaulting a disabled person was more interested in promoting atheism while criticizing religion, same like most atheist threads. Christians who posted there condemned her actions since it was opposed to what Jesus taught, but that didn't interested u atheists at all, you guys are more interested finding controversial comments so that u can open a thread like this criticizing religion, take some shots about religious people by saying lots of them are psychopaths and most importantly promote atheism while u at it and finally take some shots at KingEbukasBlog grin, since he's obviously giving some of u atheists sleepless nights. Some of u guys go so far to promote atheism that u create fake monikers to tell ur fake stories of conversion grin - some of which has been exposed, it's more like atheists lying for atheism.
HardMirror's fake story? grin

But let's be honest. There are a lot of mad christians in Nigeria and the world.

There are christians ready to disown their children if they become atheists.

There are christians who even maltreat other christians from different denominations.

There are christians that would like to see atheists locked up in asylums.


Your religious madness won't allow you to admit that there are bad christians
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 7:54am On Jan 09, 2017
Anas09:
kiss
You can't help yourself right the illogical Logicboy?

You can't help but keep lying to yourself. You're so dense that you can't differentiate between Muslims who hurt anf kill for their religion, and Christians who get hurt and killed for their religion.

Did the Op mention that the accused was a Christian? And if yes, Can you sincerely say the culprite was acting based on what Our Master, The Lord Jesus, commanded us Christians to do?

Sometimes i wonder why you refused to grow. How many years ago, i signed in here, you were exactly like this, now years later, you are even denser(if there's a word like that).

You seek to group Islam and Christianity so that you justify your foolishness. I wonder why you and the Op are not shouting about tje killing of above a thousand Christians killed in Kaduna some few days back.

You talk about a burglary, a merciless thief who attacked a disable man, with that you find grounds to yap nonsense.

Its a new year Logicboy, try to be logical a tiny little bit.
Your religious madness won't allow you to admit that there are some bad christians
Christianity Etc › Re: Woman Assaults Disabled Man For Not Believing In God (Photo) by JackBizzle: 7:45am On Jan 09, 2017
Anas09:
Cc: Lalasticlala. This guy here just personal. The issue in discourse here is not personal but this person wants to go personal. Pls take not.
Lol....turn the other (ass) CHEEK and take a joke!
Christianity Etc › Re: A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 10:46pm On Jan 08, 2017
oluwaseyi000:
the simple fact is that: most theists do not even truly care for each other talkless of atheists.

they only have artificial/online (care) of 'I don't want you to go to hell' when in reality they don't give a fv^k
Well said.
Christianity Etc › A Lot Of Christians/muslims Are Just Psychopaths Covering With Religion by JackBizzle(op): 9:30pm On Jan 08, 2017
I seriously believe that a lot of religious people we see in life are just mad people using religion to cover their madness. There are only a few good christians/muslims compared to the many that are wicked to the core.


For a long time, I started reserving my comments and taking a more observatory role on the religion section or religion in general. What I find is that many religious people do not really care about the well-being of the unbelievers.

-When an islamic terrorist kills hundreds in Europe, some muslims are more concerned about the backlash of being labelled "terrorists" (or the image of islam) rather than show empathy towards those that lost their lives.

-When a christian hurts an atheist (eg A christian woman recently shot an atheist to death), some christians just avoid the thread covering such news while others post off-topic things and derail such threads.


There was a case over a year back where an atheist (Mr Bala) was put in an asylum by his family just because he was an atheist. Some christians were happy with what happened and were arguing that it was not because Bala was an atheist but because he was truly mad. The facts came out that Bala was very sane and I told about 4 christians to apologise for calling Bala insane. None of them did. Rather, those christians ended up abusing me and atheism.


There is also the case of consistent lying against atheism or lying for the religion. We all know KingEbuka, a well known king of lies. He is a very great example of this- such a guy can tell any lie against atheism just to put it in a negative light. He knows that he is lying and so do many people but he still does it. Is this not madness?



I just tire for this wickedness. It is depressing.

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