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Nigeria is not fighting a war with Niger, it's ECOWAS vs Niger, u Obidents should never forget this.

Posts like this are highly irrelevant but this is what Obidents has reduced campaign in Nigeria to, I won't be surprised others are following suit.

kings59:
If I say something right, they will tag me as an ipob supporter and Obidient.

Who did this to us?

Things are getting worse, and we are allowing 30k stipends nairaland bots to deceive us here.

You better make a change and start reasoning about your future children.


See Dubai today, see America, see China, see Egypt, see Japan, see Switzerland, Qatar, and Singapore. They all fought and look at where they are.


Many people are greedy, they are all concerned about themselves and not the future.

See Anambra and tell us if Obi has what it takes to deliver growth.
Make una rest with see China, see this one, see that one.

BLACKPRIEST:
The highlighted is the only useful part of your comment.

Sincerely, no! I and, I believe, many other Nigerians do not desire that our country fails because we have children.

I'm truly praying that Tinubu succeeds.

Nothing ever makes sense to Obi's followers actually.
The avèràge Obident seriously hopes Nigèria faiIs.
You know that.

kabillionaire:
Uranium which Niger has in abundance is one of the materials used in developing nuclear power.
It will interest you to know that, the most effective power generation known to man is from nuclear sources.
Cutting Niger's power source is actually telling them to use what they have to generate power and in so doing step up the game by using nuclear grade uranium to manufacture nuclear weapons.
This is something France, Europe, Asia and the West know.

Somehow u believe Niger is capable of handling radioactive elements.
Some of u who talk here sha.
Radioactive elements are no child's play, Niger lack the capacity to build and run a nuclear power plant.

Alusiizizi:
I cut the rest of your crap after reading these statements. At any rate, no point in arguing with an agbado munching baboon. Would be like reasoning with a brick wall. By the way, good luck with that 30k that you're being paid to promote your balabalu bruva motormouth.

When it hits so hard, it becomes "crap".
If I present to u a paper and a pen to demonstrate the working principle of a hydro power plant turbine in lay man English, u won't be able to write anything.
U think everything is politics, see this one want to teach me physics.
LOL.
U should have explained how competent Obi is from the narratives I gave to u.
Since those are so difficult to defend for ur "no shishi" Iienus, u call it crap.
Calling Obi "competent" is the biggest crap of the decade in this country.

Alusiizizi:
It seems that you need some brush-up lessons in physics, specifically, the difference between potential/kinetic energy and their conservation. If that river is dammed in the Niger then the available energy in the Kainji dam is much more reduced, which means much lower electricity output, along with all the attendant economic issues.



Sounds like pork to me.



This has nothing to do with Obi or the Obidient movement for that matter but rather why a sitting president would breath "military intervention" out loud without being absolutely sure that he can sustain such.



Actually we are not hoping for Nigeria to fall. We are hoping for a Nigeria where presidential elections are not determined by "Ghana must go", Bullion vans or a plate of indomie and a crummy tee shirt.

We are hoping for a Nigeria where it is impossible for a single individual to override the will of millions of citizens, selecting his choice of candidate as president instead.

We are hoping for a Nigeria where competent leaders that truly care for the progress of Nigeria are elected and not for the selection of one whose only ambition is to loot the national treasury dry, right before selling the entire country to western actors.

So you see, we are in fact hoping for the same Nigeria that you are hoping for.

P.S. We are working harder, in fact we have worked so hard that even your champion international motor-mouth put himself in a fix with his "military intervention" in some deluded notion that such an intervention would cement his shaky position as president.

1. Maybe u should attend a class on real life happenings before u talk about physics.
River don't have only one dame across it, your shallow physics just faiIed.
Niger has been building a dam across the river for years now.
2. Tinubu spoke as ECOWAS head, but seems this is rocket science for Obi supporters and saying every means possible means every means possible including military interventions, if u are so fixated on military interventions, maybe u should attend a language class not physics class.
3. If u are hoping for a Nîgerià where single individual cañ't override millions then you shouldn't be having an election or a president.
4. If u want a leader with competent leaders who truly care for the progress of Nigeria are elected then u shouldn't be supporting Obi.
A governor who is competent and wants the progress of the country should first and foremost follow the constitution by electing the third tier of government and that tier should operate fully as stipulated by the constitution, under Obi, LG leadership was not even existing before we talk about their functions, no competent leadership erase the third tier of government.
Competent leaders who love the people provide clean tap water for his people, we didn't see it with Obi.
Competent leaders provide good schools with very affordable and cheap fees, the opposite is the case with Obi.
Competent leaders build good roads, something we didn't see with Obi.
Competent leaders provide very affordable world class health systems for the people with Obi, it was not so.
Competent leaders don't let doctors strike for over a year.
Most importantly, a competent leader who loves his people lives with the people he leads not run away after spending 8 years in office because u can't live in ur incompetent work.
Referring to Peter Obi as a competent is a grave insult on the word "competent" and an aggressive abuse of same word.
A leader who loves the progress of his people don't import goods in large quantities but rather invest heavily in production of goods and services among the people he claims he love, with Obi, opposite is the case.
PS: 2027 will come and we will boot Obi out again.
U cañ't lie ur way into governance, u lied ur way into governance in Anambra for 8 years, u can't lie ur way into the presidency, even when u want to lie, doñ't lie to us like we are compound f00Is.
Obi is complete opposite of his campaign manifesto yet religîóus and tribàI foIks are trying to sell the Iie to satisfy religîón and tribàI inclination and all of a sudden, dress Obi in a robe he didn't earn in the 8 years he govèrñed Nigèria.
You Obi boys are making a huge mistake, same way Buhari campaigned in 2015 is same way Obi is campaigning, for the case of Buhari, most of the voters couldn't look back on his 2 year military rule for comparison, as for Obi, we can easily look back on his 8 years as a coIIosaI in Anambra which is evident in his inability to live in Anambra.
Obi and his followers will keep talking about "shaky position" till another election will come.

BLACKPRIEST:
The masquerade is yet to dance in the square. If things do not take a different turn, the real issues will play out after the dust is calm.

Firstly, BOLA Ahmed Tinubu took a thoughtless decision to cut electricity supply to Niger Republic, breaking the 1960 pact between the two countries. A forward thinking leadership will plan for the possibility of a retaliation from Niger Republic. But, it looks like the man is busy trying to make name for himself.

If the other country eventually decides to build a dam over the River Niger, it will have noticeable socio-economic impact on Nigeria.

Secondly, If Tinubu does not execute his treat of invasion, there will, undeniable, be a serious dent on his capacity, further diminishing the perceived image of Nigeria as the African giant. Also, this will also establish the narrative on the international scene that ECOWAS is a puppet of the west.

U don't build a dam by making nóísé online, a river that's dammed at one point can still be dammed at another point.
Moreover Tinubu said they will explore every means possible to restore democracy to Niger even military interventions.
How u Obi supporters turned it to a wàr event every blessed day is baffling.
U are all hoping and praying that Nigèria faiIs terribly then come 2027 u will tell us u want Nigèria to prosper, let's vote ur governor that can't live in the state he govèrñed.
U guys need to work harder.

Treasure17:
All the nominees will also react when Peter Obi take over.

You are not tired of this wet dreams?

Jostoman:
All eyes on judiciary

0bident eyes

gidgiddy:
You guys don't get it, what you are call8ng territorusl water us because Biafra is yet to be. Assuming tge South East becomes Biafra tomorrow, it will also have its territorial water

The thing about the South East is that is has many water ways, including the river Niget, that runs through it and some of them ate just a few miles to the sea

Another thing Nigerians dont understand is that if the South East becomes a seperate country, section 125 of UNCLOS comes into effect which will prevent Nigeria from denying Biafra access to the sea via its many water ways

No matter how close you are to the sea, the river u will use passes through the territory of SS, that River and the ocean around it becomes the territorial water of SS, no section in UN whatever grants u access through another countries boundaries like it's yours.
You will pay whatever you are charged and it's your responsibility to maintain peace with them.

gidgiddy:
Igbos dont actually need anyone, nobody own the international waterways, Rivers or oceans. The United nstions have designated them as "property of mankind"

You can on land land, but nobody ever owns oceans and Rivers

Same united nations designated waters as international waters as well as territorial waters.
The closest ocean to u are territorial waters of SS not international waters, if u leave the international waters, you will pass through territorial waters of SS before reaching Biafra.
You should stop misIeading urselves.
Since Ethiopia lost Eritrea, they have been dependent on neighboring countries for water ways, such as Djibouti.
The water u are depending on are not international waters.

AntiMarxist:
Why should they even consider dragging us with them in the first place?

If anything, they are not in a position to dictate for us as there is no single benefit from the perspective of a SS person to have the Ibos in one country.

It is this arrogance I just can't phantom.

You have nothing you are bringing to the table as to why SS must consider joining you in a seperate nation.

If anyone is to drag anyone with them it will be the SS and not the Ibo
.

Their desperation in yoking the SS into another revamped Biafra exposes that they need us desperately.

And given the sordid history of Ibo oppression and marginalisation of the minority peoples during the eastern region and their madness in dragging us without even pretending to do any form of consultation , shows their arrogance has not abated despite the humongous suffering they incurred during the war.

Greed is truly a powerful drug.

lgb0s or Biafra need SS far far more than SS will ever need them.
Forming of any other other country now should be by dialogue, we dialogue why we want you and you want us.
Biafra will need the SS access to the ocean, they will need oil etc.
But it should be an alliance of equal members in this day not forcing the union.
The way I think it, NC and some NE/NW like Taraba and Southern Kaduna should make an alliance with people of SS, this way, they can stand a better chance as united front for agitation.
These people are all minor trîbès and it will benefit them both better, they will get SS access to the ocean and their arable land will help to make up for the damaged lands in SS in terms of agriculture.
That's way better than NC or some part of SS going here and there.
I don't know much about Ijaw nation like some people are saying but this is from my perspective is ok.
Yorubas to their tent, lgb0s alike and Hausa-Fulani.
But lgb0s forcing SS into them is a major setback in their quest already.
That was the reason Biafra was not actualized with Ojukwu.
But seems greed knows no bounds.

KGBKremlin:
Biafra is five states all Igbo elders and politicians know that

There are other smaller lgb0 settlements that are not part of the 5 states that will want to join Biafra too.
But all in all, they are just 5 states.

AntiMarxist:
Their madness was driven by their false claims to Jewry and the superstition of Jewish invisibility and divine powers.

Just as they are now claiming falsely they are Jews and stealing Jewish heritage as theirs, so also did they appropriate civilized norms and customs from the SS tribes.

We did not however teach them to feed on their fellow man.

They learnt that shit on their own.

LOL.
Let lgb0s breathe.
The world has gone beyond forcing SS into Biafra now.
The only thing that will function is a referendum, with that, SS won't go with SE.

isan:
USA will never allow us sell fuel in naira

It's high time u all stop over magnifying the west and focus on our selves.

AntiMarxist:
It has always been about the oil in the SS and the coastal lands .

We have nothing in common with the Ibo.

Whatever similarities in culture we in the Niger Delta share with the Ibo, they borrowed or rather appropriated from us .

We are not one.

Our temperament and Gentile ways shows we are as opposite as day from night.

It has always been so.
lgb0s wanted to force Benue into Biafra before they pulled out too.

Biafra seperation is not based on marginalization, the marginalization story is faIse and a chroñîc propaganda by the lgb0s.
The only real justification for Biafra is the sharp cultural and religîóus differences that have existed in Nigeria since it's formation which makes it impossible for integration of the people as one nation.
That's the only drive for Biafra, the key difference between SE and SW in their relation to the North is that SW has a huge Muslim population which can easily align with the north on religîóus grounds but there still exists cultural shocks for a typical Yoruba who travels to the core north, vice-versa.
The NC and SS are a population also agitating for secession but for their case, they are different tribes who are greatly marginalized far far more than the lgb0s yet they keep quiet and cañ't form a formidable movement because of lack of a unified leadership.
As for Biafra, their secession agenda is justified because of stark differences in way of life etc but NEVER on marginalization, that's a cock and buII story.
In future, with a unified leadership in SS and NC, Biafra will be used to cause a breakaway but when this breakaway happens, 5 states will stand alone as Biafra and the Biafran dreams will start looking like a nightmare, but it will definitely be too late to turn back.

Dafresh:
That's business

You are crîtîcîziñg same place u go to do business?
Whereas u can't do same business on your soil?

tsdarkside:
exactly....why should nigeria be bothered that they kicked france out....
we are even happy for them....

ecowas didnt achieved it,they achieved it themselves....
mali and bukina faso did the same....is nigeria botherin them....??

ecowas will make a bit noise and then forget about it....
the niger people will still want civilian rule anyways....

The noise here is made more by Nigèrians.
ECOWAS is simply taking a stand, we don't tolerate coup and that's done with.
The rest are noise.

RuggedBiafran:
But you approve SHARIA in the North and you claim that Western materials are Haram, but you troop to the South? Why can't you stay in the North and practice your religious beliefs without disturbing everyone with Boko Haram?

Chinese and Lebanese are everywhere doing business. Even when BIAFRA is attained, BIAFRANs will still do business everywhere. So those threats don't move anybody. Tell your people.

The fact you have made baseless assumptions about my religîón and region shows u lack what it takes to carry on with a discussion.

engrchykae:
you must be a road safety officer to be checking igbos on the road.

A fact you cañ't dispute.

Lovelive:
You tell lies till they become part of you.

2027 will come and Obi will Iósè again.

Dafresh:
They buses that carried them to SW comes back empty abi. You're funny like Tinubu

Definitely bringing some home who will still go back immediately.
Everyone knows that the quantity of lgb0s in every far far supercedes the number of the people of those region in lgb0 Iand especially SW.

Dafresh:
You mean Benue is safer than Enugu

Ask the lgb0s migrating to Benue to answer your question, I can't measure the two.

Creeper:
South Africa today isn’t a western puppet and the history of South Africa is different from the rest of Sub-Saharan Africa. South Africa was developed because white people never thought they would lose out in the power play in the country (basically what Israel is doing to Palestine) and most of Southern Africa and the country was meant to be the Australia and New Zealand of Africa. However, the war in Angola and the fall out from that war broke the back of apartheid all over Southern Africa (read about the Angolan civil war and how it changed the history of Southern Africa). Cubans with the backing of the Soviet Union played a major role in how most of Southern Africa became black countries hence they still wave Cuban flags in that region.

The same thing is playing out in the Sahel right now albeit with different actors and it’s bigger than Nigeria. Hence Nigeria needs to stay out of it.

Algeria isn’t a puppet of France and the country has the most vile anti-French sentiment on the planet. Macron went there last year to improve relations between the two countries and he was pelted with water. Algeria is mostly a Russian ally albeit it has cordial relations with the US. Algeria is also one of the biggest buyers of Russian weapons and it gets some Russian weapons even before the Russian army (that’s how deep the relationship is).

I don’t think you read that much if you think Africans lack the brain power to use the resources on the continent to their advantage. Ile Ife made glass beads in isolation in the rain forest at a time when no empire or kingdom in the world was doing it, at an industrial scale and turned it into currency. The British Industrial Revolution had its genesis in white slave masters learning iron smelting from African slaves. (Read it here: https://amp.theguardian.com/science/2023/jul/05/industrial-revolution-iron-method-taken-from-jamaica-briton). African slaves from Sahel taught Europeans rice farming, etc. What makes you think a race of people who exhibited this ingenuity in the past can’t do the same thing today?

Africa’s biggest problem is neo-colonialism. Even China didn’t rise under it was cut away from the west and was under sanctions and embargo. And that was when it had to look inwards. And when the west came back to use the country for cheap labour - it cheated the system and used it to its advantage. Or was the exploited Opium Wars China able to build anything?

Like I said in my previous post: it’s not as simplistic as a lot of you think it’s. Africa will rise in a world where there’s a level playing field and no neo-colonialism. That’s the truth and it’s evident in how a lot of west Africans in diaspora outperform their white counterparts in all walks of life.

Most of your analysis are more on history than present day, I read alot of history, I did history and philosophy of science alot in undergraduate days, so I know all the history you are dishing out.
We are talking about present day, how is neocolonialism existing if the problem is not from within?
You don't subject yourself to neocolonialism, you won't be under it.
I gave an example with our agriculture, our agricultural sector is so bastardized that we always run into food crîsès, if westerners had been farming on our lands, we would have blamed them for it.
In ancient times, Nigèria was great in Agriculture, are we great now?
What changed, people's mindset.
What about the silica sand, we made glasses ages ago, are we making glasses now?
We have the resources to make glasses but we can't.
Same relations you are talking about has been existing between Nigèria and Russia, Russians built things for Nîgeriàns, Incase you don't remember ALSCON was sold under disguise to a Russian company.
We in NIGÈRIA don't like the west as it is, is that the stance of our government?
The Moroccans and Algerians always go head to head because of Algeria's relationship with France.
I keep saying this, neocolonialism exists because we allow it to exist, the day we wake up, neocolonialism is too meagre to hold us, a Nigerian who has gone to stay in America will troII other Nîgeriàns living for living in Nigeria and we think neocolonialism is the problem?
It's not.
We are the problem, the west only use because they see that we are easy to use and we are a people with direction.
South has the EFF struggling so much for black dominance even in their own country, I do agree with u that most of their development is owed to whites, still, in us lies the problem not without.

tsdarkside:
why the hell would a black man be interested in Uranium....??
for what....??
fact remains its under our feets and we should be accordingly paid for it....
because you are not usin your bicycle doesnt mean the neighbor has the right to steal it from you....

you make no sense....

I didn't start the uranium analysis, did I?
Before u reply a comment, try to understand and learn, don't rush to reply simply because you don't pay for typing.
It will help u more.
In the last few days, I have wasted my time replying many of u who has nothing to say just thinking everything should be about argument and proving a point with fouI languages, when u learn to engage properly, I will give u the next reply.

RuggedBiafran:
They are even running to NIGER REPUBLIC.....


No need to disturb yourself about them. Did they ask you for food?

useless unity beggar..spits

Of course, I know alot of lgb0s who are in Niger selling tyres and other stuffs.
The unity beggars are the ones who want a country but can't stay in their homes.
U want independence but u come to me food and shelter, who is the unity beggar?

leokid866:
lol you think Tinubu would actually send soldiers into Niger? Wetin concern us concern them, if they want to live under the Military that's their business.....all the talk is just make them no talk say we abandoned them when they finally decide to have sense....the one wey funny pass na Mali wey dey talk, someone that is just holding on by a thread, he should ask his brethren in Chad howfar.....🤣🤣😅

We all know Tinubu is trying to prove a point, I sincerely doubt he would send even a van of soldiers to Niger, Nîgeriàns are talking too much about it.
As head of ECOWAS, he needs to say something, at least to show that coup is not welcomed in West Africa.

DesChyko:
I understand you're quite pained Niger reserved no regard for Tinubu. I am not bringing you solace either. It is true that Burkina Faso and Mali pledged support for Niger and it is also true that an Igbo man knew that before you did and brought you the news. Own that L with your full chest, bruvs 😎

We don't care about Niger, it's same u lgb0s that are making a news out of it.
Meanwhile that's a big win for u, LOL.
Mediocrity runs deep.

RuggedBiafran:
They are not crying for palliatives.
They are not fleeing to anywhere.
They fought BIAFRA war and they are still in charge of their lands.
Fulani slap your forefathers and you gave them ILORIN.

I know u won't agree but I'm not a Yorûba, just reminding you the reality on ground, so many Sóûth easterners are entering night buses heading for SW now in search of greener pastures, some are running to Benue so they can afford food, some to Kogi, some to Nasarawa etc, this is the reality of SE but u all come online to day the opposite.

Creeper:
It’s not as simplistic as a lot of you think it’s. The western world’s survival when it comes to global domination is dependent on the exploitation of African countries and cheap resources from Africa hence Africa is utter poor and underdeveloped.

Africa’s biggest problem is neither corruption (the west is more corrupt than the most corrupt countries in Africa) nor inability to use its vast resources (African ancestors built great civilisations with these resources in isolation, so the ingenuity is there) to its advantage - it’s neocolonialism.

Francophone countries still pay colonial tax in 2023 and they don’t even have independent currencies. They’re all basically still France’s satellite colonies. So, something has to give and since these men have decided to change their reality - they’re brave men and the spirit of Thomas Sankara will guide them.

The coups are mostly geopolitical - Nigeria has nothing to worry about. It’s not going to get to Nigeria - so Tinubu needs to stay out of it and tell Lagbaja to watch his boys.

Paul Biya has ruled Cameroon (Nigeria’s neighbour in the BH axis) for 40yrs and Quattara has ruled Ivory Coast for almost a decade or more. Those are the dictators that Nigeria should be looking for a way to oust from power. But it won’t because those 2 clowns are French puppets.

Western countries need to either do the right thing by paying the market price for these resources or get the Bleep out of the continent.

You have valid points, South Africa is a western puppet yet it's more developed than these countries, same as Algeria who is a puppet to France.
The major problem lies with us.
We can send them out all we want (which is necessary) but it doesn't solve even half the problem.
How much do we really want to develop ourselves.
Africàñs especially Nîgeriàns go through schools and teachers (who speak out against slavery) makes it look like a crîmè if the student doñ't know the capital of UK, capital of france, Germany etc.
Yet the citizens of those countries can't even name a single city in the whole of Africa.
The problem is more from within than without.
Tinubu is trying to show that Nigèria is a powerful country, which I don't support, but to think that sending the West out will solve our problem is delusions of the highest degree.
About 23 states in Nigeria has good deposit of silica sand, how many glass industries do we have, we still import most of our glasses, our lands are good for agriculture yet Nigèria keep finding itself in food crîsès every now and then.
The west are not involved in these two, yet we can't make good use of them.
I'm sure if the west didn't come for our oil, we wouldn't have done anything with it just like so many minerals being wasted in our country.
Lithium is here in Nigeria but we haven't done anything with yet.
Tesla is requesting to come and take raw lithium away and Nigèria is insisting that they use it here within the country, aside that, we haven't done anything with it.
We have more problem within than without.