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Brendaniel:
You guys just lie anyhow to defend wicked leaders spoiling things in Nigeria because of tribe or religion, look at the stats, Nigeria did not even make the list in some cases or are the rock bottom in so many indices of a working system, in electricity alone all the countries you mentioned made the list of top 20 in Africa and Nigeria did even male the list...

I don't want to post too many stats here, but I will attach a few for you to see, except you want to say the stats are lying or you don't believe in stats like Tinubu your master, we can see the result if his non believe in stats in less than a year....

I keep wondering what you guys aim to achieve with all these evil, lies, deception, wickedness an all, what exactly do you people aim to achieve?

The police u are mentioning are not leaders, are they?
Sóuth Àfricà in the list of reliable electricity?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Calls for a good laugh.
Stats are great, ok, so u agree Nigeria has the best economy in Africa now because the stats say so right?
Many of u are so cóñfused u dón't know the difference between downgrading ur cóûñtry because u dón't have the slightest idea about other countries and demanding better from the government.
We all agreed the government has to do better down to LGA, because the LGAs do basically nothing throughout the whole federation.
Sóuth Àfrîcà is one of the ûñsafèst countries in the world, that's what the stats say even more ûñsafè than Nigerîà, I guess u agree with that stat?
Nigerià has the best economy in Africa, I guess u agree with that stat?
Stats never tell the whole story, when u travel, u will realize that many of those places are way wórsè than Nigerîà.
Travel

Brendaniel:
You guys just lie anyhow to defend wicked leaders spoiling things in Nigeria because of tribe or religion, look at the stats, Nigeria did not even make the list in some cases or are the rock bottom in so many indices of a working system, in electricity alone all the countries you mentioned made the list of top 20 in Africa and Nigeria did even male the list...

I don't want to post too many stats here, but I will attach a few for you to see, except you want to say the stats are lying or you don't believe in stats like Tinubu your master, we can see the result if his non believe in stats in less than a year....

I keep wondering what you guys aim to achieve with all these evil, lies, deception, wickedness an all, what exactly do you people aim to achieve?

The police u are mentioning are not leaders, are they?
Sóuth Àfricà in the list of reliable electricity?
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Calls for a good laugh.
Stats are great, ok, so u agree Nigeria has the best economy in Africa now because the stats say so right?
Many of u are so cóñfused u dón't know the difference between downgrading ur cóûñtry because u dón't have the slightest idea about other countries and demanding better from the government.
We all agreed the government has to do better down to LGA, because the LGAs do basically nothing throughout the whole federation.
Sóuth Àfrîcà is one of the ûñsafèst countries in the world, that's what the stats say even more ûñsafè than Nigerîà, I guess u agree with that stat?
Nigerià has the best economy in Africa, I guess u agree with that stat?
Stats never tell the whole story, when u travel, u will realize that many of those places are way wórsè than Nigerîà.
Travel.

[quote author=Brendaniel post=128371749][/quote]I don't remember mentioning Botswana, did I?

2tpick:
You cherrypicked my response to suit your narrative. I clearly told you that Tinubu and his save Nigeria group didn't allow Nigerians to reap any benefits from sure-p when they truncated the subsidy removal scheme. When are you joining the protest against the high cost of living?

I don't do protests compadre.
I always advice people to do what's good for them irrespective of whether u voted for the government or not.
Seems to u Obi followers that u cañ't fauIt a government provided u vote it?
Naaaa.
U can fauIt a government especially if u voted it if it's not meeting ur expectations.
I like the fact that people who are not satisfied are voicing out.
Back to ur statement of Sure-P.
Before saying it was not successful, u actually used it as example of programs that should come up when subsidy was removed, if u know it was not successful why suggesting it as a damàgè control?

Obi supporters have a probIem, the probIem with u foIks is that u make supporting a particular candidate about trîbè and reIigion whereas urs that's centred on tribe and religion is tagged patriotism, the Yorubas just like lgb0s, Hausa-Fulani, Urhobos, Ishekiris, ogoni, Tiv, Igala, idoma, Ibirom, etc etc etc all have their choice of candidate, the choice could be on any ground, u foIks dón't have the right to critîcize someone's eIse choice, this is the reason why the last election heated up so much, questioning other people's choices like urs is better.

Those of u who christened Obi as messiah after his disasterous 8 yrs rule, are u proud of urselves?

Brendaniel:
Tell me presently what Nigeria has better than these countries for an average person looking to live in a country that provides basic amenities for human beings...

1. Electricity

2. Security

3. Minimum wage in dollar value.

4. Ease of doing business without government corrupt extortions and multiple taxations both legal and illegal.

5. Police

Let me stop here, I may not have been to these countries but I have relatives and friends who have been and I have also had friends from some of these countries, so please among these things I listed kindly tell me which Nigeria is doing better than any of the countries you listed above....

All of them and more.
Whenever u foIks put in minimum wage value, also consider cost of goods and services.
Many of the stuffs u Iisted is what feIIow Nigerians do to each other on daily basis especially the córrûption part, but same Nigeriàñs will come online to çry about what they are doing.
Nigerians we all need to wake up and so personal check up.
Critîcizing aimIessIy wóñ't heIp anyone.

2tpick:
Please show me where I mentioned it was a successful program. Naso u dey do? You just dey talk make e be say the matter no end for my mouth. No be only Osborne tower.

Your repIies are not making señsè now.
U referred to programs like Sure-P that they should have been put in place since fuel subsidy is being removed, if Sure-P was not successful, why are u recommending it?

Agboriotejoye:
You mean you beg people to join politics based on how deep enough their pockets are for you to feed on? Shame!!


Well I am part of politics in Nigeria and I don't see how you became the rule maker for who has the right to speak on issues and who doesn't

I guess u begged Obi because he has enough pockets to feed on.
Ur opinions are actuaIIy worthIess, if u feel u are so great in reasoning, leading the people should be a walk in the park for u, but every 4 years u hide in ur room without running for a position.

Brendaniel:
I was actually expecting this response, I have received this kind of response from a lot of you Tinubu supporters here and it only happens when you are out of lies to tell, I know you have been telling a lot of lies but I wanted you to keep going because I know lies expire or get exhausted at some point but the truth will always stand and remain the same regardless of time....

It's basics, people leave because just like u, they believe countrîès like Togo, Benin, Cameroon etc are better than Nigerîà, it's simple basics, but someone who believes that the above listed countries are better than Nigerîà cañ't be heIped.

lastkingsman:
Go and treat malaria and typhoid biko

Is that ur aiIment?
I am really sorry to hear about that.

2tpick:
You are busy holding brief for someone who is chilling in France while the nation burns. Your statement that "Atiku and Obi wouldn't have implemented anything better than what we have on ground" is speculative and can never be presented as facts. Why will anybody gain anything from sure-p when the aftershocks of "occupy Nigeria" truncated the programme?

Sounds like u are going in circles now, u mentioned it as a successful program and now it's no longer successful?
Guess u are holding brief for Obi while he is chilling in Osborne Tower right?

2tpick:
I am sorry sir, u were actually the one who didn't follow the subsidy talk. Yes, all the frontline presidential candidates advocated scrapping subsidy but they didn't end there. They all had a plan towards its implementation and where the proceeds will be channelled to cushion the effects of its removal on the masses. A good policy can look bad if poorly implemented. Policy implementation is where the difference lies. When GEJ spoke about subsidy removal, there was something called SURE-P.

That being said, never u get bothered about any insults being thrown around here. Some of these guys cannot even stand in your presence to utter rubbish if they meet you in person.

Not a single one of them would have implemented anything better than it is now.
How many people gained anything meaningful from Sure-P?
The billions rolled out by Buhari, how many people gained anything from it?
Atiku and Obi wouldn't have implemented anything better than what we have on ground, that's a fact we are all shying away from, these men held leadership positions in time past, nothing transformative came out of it, to say today that would have done it better is misIeading.
lnsuIts here dón't bother me.

Brendaniel:
And with your traveling you haven't still given your own reason why people leave Nigeria to those countries......

If u cañ't spot basics, I cañ't help you.

vanbonattel:
Is this not already happening in the federal police, allow us handle it in states, only a mad man will be doing same things and enduring the bad results forever.

U have senators and HOR in ur zone right?
Channel this ur talk to them, I am not stopping u from having state police.

Agboriotejoye:
Well you used the word dumb first do I guess you're experience means you're actually dumb.
It does not matter whether the sultan joined in the chorus of subsidy removal.
What I'm saying and I stand by is that I've been proven right that subsidy removal is not good for the economy and your dumb politicians have flunked once again as they usually do.
Don't beg me to join politics. Beg your dumb politicians to stop being dumb.
Simple Dumbo

Nobody wiII bèg a Iow Iife to join poIitics, what I am telling u is to fem if u are not part of the politics.

lastkingsman:
Kperogi, stop running round the circles. You have tactically mentioned in your write up that even if PO or Atiku had won, the result would be the same. This is lies from the pit of hell, you know it and I know it but because you supported bulaba in the last election, you are trying to exonerate yourself from the calamity you foisted on Nigeria.

What has Tinubu done to reduce cost of governance? What has Tinubu done to increase our oil production? What has Tinubu done in employing the best hands to run key ministries? What has Tinubu done to unite the country? What has Tinubu done to improve insecurity? The man you supported is enjoying himself in France with a high level of "I don't care". This is who you are comparing to PO and Atiku lmao

Our GDP per Capita is projected to be 1000$ by 2025 (in comparison Vietnam is projected at 4000$). The implications is that an average Vietnamese will be 4 times more productive than a Nigerian, all thanks to intentional and effective leadership.

According to renewed economist, Paul Alaje, who predicted this naira at 1500N/$ by April '24 last year, he has come up with another prediction that if Bulaba doesn't sit up the country is going under.

My own is this is Emilokan and Awa lokan and we have 7 years and 4months to go. Ciao

CC: JagabanB

I am telling u directly that if Obi or Atiku had won, we wouId be way wórsè than this.
So projections are important now?
LOL.
When they projected positive stuffs, u rebuffed it, but the negative ones are correct?

IkeOnyia:
State police is not advisable. Governors will use them with impunity to stiffle every opposition in their states. Also inter-state police coordination will be difficult and criminals will be the better for it. Imagine if someone from Kano commits a serious crime in Akwa Ibom and runs back to his state and the police in Kano shields him because they think his crime is backed up by sharia law or because Akwa Ibom has a rival political party there. The idea of state police must be jettisoned because it is a recipe for total collapse of the security of the nation.

They won't agree with you now because in thèîr myópic minds, they cañ't see it happening.
There are states that don't pay salaries, what will happen when those states don't pay police?
The police will literally arrest anyone on the street for any reason just to generate money for themselves and their families, they will aid crîmînaIs provided they get their share.
These people are waiting for it to start happening and they will start criticizing again.

The good thing about Nigeria is that someone who's not in government is always very competent and has solution to everything.
They are only like that before they get into government and after they are out of government.

Brendaniel:
Because they currently have a system that is working better than Nigeria...

I have always thought that people dón't need to travel to gain experience, but interacting with Nigeriàñs, I realize travelling and more importantly, travelling with open mind is very important.
Travel to Togo, Cameroon, Benin etc to confirm what u are saying.
When people from these countries see this ur particular statement, they wiII be shocked to their bones.

Lastmessenger2:
have you been to the south east?

I am talking from experience.

Agboriotejoye:
Lol. So you are as ignorant and dumb at the same time

Maybe you have not been following the propaganda by govt apologists who claimed subsidy removal will bring about much needed investments that will bring down prices. If you knew this level of suffering and misery will be unleashed by subsidy removal and still went ahead to support govt to implement it, then you are nothing but a sadist.
I'm sure even Tinubu never expected it to be this bad. They all brought the Western hogwash that investments will be attracted by subsidy removal. They were wrong.
You are as ignorant as you are dumb.

From life experiences, i have realized that people who are quick to call others "dûmb and îgñorant" are actually dûmb so they are quick to accûsè others with their dèfects.
U probably didn't follow the subsidy talk, every politician who had the chance of winning said they were scrapping it.
If u are so smart, I advocate u get into politics and transform ur immediate society, ur smartness on Nairaland won't help anybody.

ClearFlair:
Form an alliance of failure. A very African interpretation of a disastrous situation. Africans need to evolve

But some people formed alliance of religion?

VaselineCrew:
If I get paid for work and I get dollars transferred to my dom, how is that a bad thing for Nigeria?

Doesn't it reduce pressure on FX as if I want to buy something from abroad, I wouldn't have to stress CBN to find me dollars when I can use what I earned.

If I decide to change some to naira, isn't that also beneficial in the sense that the dollar would be useful to the banks after I change it?

The only issue is how banks sometimes don't change dollar and you have to go to aboki to change it.


So what if I go empty my dom and take it to another country, how does that help Nigeria?


Some APC supporter on that CBN thread was already threatening Nigerians with doms, saying they would forcefully convert it and there is nothing we can do, that if we complain, we will be shot, wow!

That is fucking scary!

Are u talking based on the fàke news or based on another thing?

Brendaniel:
If all these things you mentioned are actually real then why are these country citizens not running into Nigeria to come and hustle and enjoy the safety that is better than theirs? why is the reverse the case?

So u dón't even know that all these things are real?
LOL.
Why are Togolese not running to Nigerîà like Nigerians are running to Togo?
Can u tell me?
Why are those from Benin republic not running to Nigerîà like Nigerîàns are running to their country?
Can u tell me?
Why are Camèróónians not coming to Nigerîà like Nigerîàns are running to Cameroon?
If u answer these questions, u have ur answers.

Agboriotejoye:
Obviously!!
Even I knew that subsidy removal will lead to structural issues in our economy. Or were you part of the zombie bandwagon who thought removing subsidy was a good idea?

It's easy to spot all the probIems when u are sitting in pew, when u are brought on stage, that's when u will realize u dón't know anything.
If u feel like a genius knowing that subsidy removal was going to generate probIems, then it clearly shows how dû......mb u are.
The poIiticîàñs saying they were going to remove all taIked about the issues it was going to cause, the àvèragè secondary school kid who knows what "subsidy" means knew it was going to come down hard on the people, so if u knowing makes u feel like a genius, then I see where u beIong.

Agboriotejoye:
Kperoogi is not smart na abi

The politicians are not smart now abi?

Brendaniel:
If there is anyone who brings in politics into everything it is you APC,Tinubu supporters, you were the one who brought in the Lagos/ Anambra comparison, you were still the one who started talking about Peter Obi.....

So with your travel and exposure, in summary what you are trying to say is that Nigeria is safer and has a better economy for its citizens than America, Ghana and South-Africa and that Nigeria delivers justice like America or better than America?

Obi talks about others, if he doesn't want others to talk about him, he should fem!!!
Nigerià provides everything far far far better for it's citizens than Ghaña.
The key difference between South Africa and Nigerîà is the infrastructural gap, Nigerîà stalled on infrastructural development in the last 40 years, that was when Sóuth Àfrica caught up, right now, they are decIining, from electricity to water to uñempIoymènt, they are facing a high unemployment rate and their employers will tell u that their graduates are not fit for employment in SA, this is a first hand experience in SA.
Before 2013, we barely have any functional train in Nigeria, right now we have trains that can compare with north Africa which are the most advanced.
If u faiI to understand that what I have been trying to correct is ur warped ideology that the American system works to deliver justice to everyone, then there's no explanation I can give to aid ur understanding.
No single system in the world works to give justice to everyone, none!!!
Nigerià is ñót sàfe, but Sóuth Àfrica is among the top 10 ûñsafèst countries in the world not Nigerià.
America is not as sàfe as u are meant to believe.
U should understand my point now, else I can't help u anymore

Brendaniel:
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So the killings happening in Katsina and the ones that happened in the Church in Ondo state or the one that happened bandits killed people in a mosque is what? What has been done about them?

Oga tell me another joke jare...

I know you will bring up the Lagos Anambra issue to defend Tinubu, I laugh each time you guys do this....

This is what I call the Lagos scam, that if you at your level can fall for the scam it speaks a lot about you....

If you want me to explain the Lagos scam I will do that, but I will tell you the worst governor that has ever governed the entire south east is better than Tinubu.....

LOL.
U are trying to bend the story to Anambra/Lagos.
To u obidents, everything is about politics, there's life first before politics and after politics, there's still life, learn to live so u dón't become mîsèràbIe.
U are sounding mîsèràbIe already, the Peter Obi u are defending with all ur might collected money from u foIks and bettered his life while he keeps giving u audio promises he didn't actualize as governor, not even a single one did he actualize.
U are trying to deflect from ur initial talk that there world systems that "works to give everyone Justice", I cited an example already, u defended it because it is in the US, would have defended it if it happened in Nigerîà?
The answer is NO!!!
I can cite more examples.
Ur statement was that places like America have a system that works to give everyone Justice, clearly shows u haven't travelled, travel is very important in life, it illuminates ur mind and free u from deIusions like these, just like the delusions that sold that ghana had "10 years of no bIack outs", just like some people are stiII believing that Sóuth Àfrîcà is a heaven on earth that it's government is superb, this is what Iack of traveIIing has done to so many of u and come to talk about these stuffs online, those of us who travel and tell u it's not so are accused of being political, that's why I am telling you to live.
I dón't hold a grudge against anyone because of political affiliation, but Obidents will online to shàmè anyone who asks them for assistance because the person supported BAT, we dón't do that because we know there's life outside politics.

Gerrard59:
Don't you think you should spend time advocating for Emi Lokan to tackle the menace of Fulani herdsmen and grow the economy?

Does ur comment tally with whatever we are saying?

Agboriotejoye:
Will nairalanda1 agree


JagabanB will say Kperoogi is hating the political class because they are smarter than him

If u think u are smarter than the political class, prove it by getting into politics and making the difference, when u sitting and u are talking, it's easy to do.

Aonkuuse:
Which politicians How you people hang everything on few individuals buffles me..... Forget politicians, we are just very wicked to ourselves, tribalism, religion and hate for one another is killing Nigerians... Those people Abroad, who took them there?? You think poor man dey travel If you carry over 5, million naira to travel abroad when if you concentrate, you can make it here with that amount to travel, then you deserve whatever you get over there..

Some use 30m to travel and the moment they land there, they will start posting how u should leave Nigerîà, they will tell u that picking dirts from the street is better, we oppose, they clap for them and àttàck us, when news like this comes up, they come çryîñg.
30m is enough to start a good business that will help u and others but nooo.
They are aII dèsèrvè what they get wherever they are.