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Kobojunkie:
The OP itself is about those religious differences, differences which equally exist down south.

Not as sharp as the north.

Kobojunkie:
You posted about regional government working in the south. How is that relative? Relative in what sense?

Relative to the north.
U pointed out religious differences as the key issues up North, the case down south is different, that's the relative reference, simple to understand.

Kukutente23:
Nero being a descendant of a ruling class is not a sign of intelligence and did not confer the throne on him. He was adopted and made heir. He did nothing to merit it. Mark Antony was also related to Julius Ceasar and he did not compete against Augustus Ceasar. In terms of intelligence, Mark Antony was more highly regarded than Augustus Ceasar. You're simply buttresing my point.

It's unfortunate the only thing you read about Ojukwu and MKO is that they went to school. I clearly wrote that MKO was the responsible for Nigeria's first telecom lines. As for Ojukwu, he was so good the British officers quickly made him a commissioned officer. So don't hide under education is not a sign of intelligence.
Show how Shagari was a better man than Awolowo in terms of intelligence for example.
Show how MKO was below Abacha in terms of intelligence.
Your points of argument are weak which is why you're making intelligence look like an abstract thing which can't be quantified which is clearly a lie.

U are not even making a point.
Was Nero chosen because of his power?
The talk is about power (brutal force) against intelligence, so Nero was chosen because of his brutal power?
Marc Anthony never vied for the apex seat?
U need to read and learn history.
Marc Anthony was regarded than August Caesar because Marc Anthony was a renowned soldier whereas August Caesar was a kid at the time, not because Mark Anthony was more intelligent.
If Marc Anthony was so intelligent like u are trying to say, he wouldn't have Iost out to a kid.
He would have known not to play around with Cleopatra with the kind of sèntimeñts Rome was sharing.
This are stories that u learn in secondary school literature, u are not even grounded in that story, u probably think u are talking with someone who has no idea about history.
U are bIabbiñg.
I made a clean example to u.
Ojukwu was technically defèatèd in a wàr with food not with superior weapóñs, this was a wàr he started, why start a wàr when u dón't have food?
This is basic understanding for a commander whom u assume is so intelligent.
Gowon bèàting Ojukwu cIearIy shows he is miles ahead of Ojukwu in terms of intelligence, why starting a war when u wiII cIearIy depend on ur opponent for food?
It doesn't matter what position he was given in Europe, he was bèàtèn by a Iess edûcàted commander on the battIe fieId with simpIe basics.
U clearly have no point and u are talking about other people's point being wèak?
The truth is that most of u cIaiming so much intelligence are first gràdè duIIards in reality, I am taIking from my encounter with many of u in this country.
Nigeria's first telecom lines came in the 1800's, so those lines were brought by Abiola?
Why do u like talking about what u dón't know?
MKO was an entrepreneur who was passionate about growing his community.
So Shagari bèàt Awolowo with brûtè fórcè?
I keep telling u folks, there's a reason why an argument breaks out in the first place, always stick to that point and not bIabbiñg like u are in a beer parlor.
From comparing Nero whom u said became a leader by inheritance to using Shagari and Awolowo who are not in the inheritance scene is very very very Iamè.
People Iike u make inteIIigence sound like a joke.
U have been talking about what u dón't know alot.

Great0ne1:
What class are you talking about ? Mind you there are probably no more class in nigeria today. Even a cleaner here in united kingdom earns more than a bank manager with 20 years working experience, in this shithole. It is not a coincidence that everyone is living, including managers of industries and big companies

Some of u dón't know how to read, did u read the post?
That's very true, even a garbage cleaner there earns more than the presîdent of Nîgerià.
That's how u folks misIead people to sûffèr.

Kobojunkie:
What makes you think the South is any less divided?

Abeg leave tales by moonlight where it belongs.

That particular reference is a relative reference.
I guess u know what relative means.

Kukutente23:
You're mentally rigid. Mark Antony was a renowned soldier and philosopher in his days and he never competed against Julius Caesar for the throne of emperor. But he was nonetheless known as a brilliant man who most believed will make a fine emperor just as Awolowo is fondly referred to as the best President Nigeria never had. The closest he got to was ruling a part of roman empire. Nero on the other hand simply inherited the throne without lifting as much as a finger. I put the two up to show you that sometimes the best men fight for political power and never get it while the worst have it thrust on them through no ingenuity or effort on their part.

As for Tinubu being more intelligent than Atiku and Obi combined, that's your subjective analysis not based on any facts.
But that of Awolowo vs Shagari is clear to see.
It's also a testament to your lack of knowledge about Nigerian history that Ojukwu was actually the first graduate to join the Nigerian army and he was Oxford educated to Masters level while Gowon did not even have a 1st degree. Your crap about a commander knowing he needs food to feed his army is total crap. A blockade was effected against Biafra.
Lastly, I never said MKO was more intelligent than Ahmadu Bello, Shagari and Abacha. I specifically mentioned Abacha since you can't comprehend comparison beyond eras. MKO was a graduate of Glasgow University and ran so many successful businesses one of which was the building of telephone lines across Nigeria. Abacha on the other hand was simply known for coups.
I don't know how you measure intelligence but it is impossible to claim Abacha was more inteIIgent than MKO or Shagari was more intelligent than Awolowo

I read through ur paragraph and it lacks substance.
First off, Nero was a descendant of a ruling class, the last his line.
The descendant of Octavian (Caesar Augustus)
He didn't lift a finger?
Maybe u should check history.
Marc Anthony was a friend to Julius Caesar, Julius Caesar had an adopted heir in Caesar Augustus who took after him.
If Marc Anthony was so intelligent, he wouldn't have played into the hands of Caesar Augustus like he did.
U saying "Marc Anthony never competed against Julius Caesar for the throne of emperor" is pointless, it clearly shows u don't even know that I am talking about Caesar Augustus who was heir to Julius Caesar, stick to what u know.
I have known this history since I was a kid.
U barely know it, that's why u are confusing the two.
What u just described about Ojukwu and MKO Abiola is about people who went to school, u don't need to go to school to be intelligent, u should know that, shouldn't you?
If Ojukwu was so intelligent, he won't have gotten into a position where someone who didn't get a degree will win by a blockade.
Getting a degree is not same as being intelligent.
I am not talking about getting a degree.
The polîticians the poster called "dûmbest creatures" all have degrees, is the talk about degree now?
LOL.
Some of u just argue for d sake of it.
Compassion doesn't equate to intelligence, don't u get it?
Brutal people can be intelligent.
crïmïñaIs can be intelligent.

Raheeqilmaktoom:
Funny people.

Still struggling to understand your point.

Blue3k:
Yes they do bow to market pressure. They eventually dried the state coffers trying to foolishly control fuel prices. Even when they were shilling out cash shortages were common because of market forces.

Now we see why you're so angry I state facts about the animals in your family. This is why you consider a public servant a superior/ elite. I did find it weird a grown man who taxes pay these idiots would then turn around call them elites. Now public servant turned elite because they won an election and steal from the public.

Lol even in your stories about these animals all the want to do is rip people off. Where's the intelligence you keep telling they possess? What exactly are they elite at? Again telling they have power doesn't make them intelligence. We already established power and intelligence aren't the same thing. A fool can be powerful.

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I see u are so paînèd because ur entire life and family is controIIed by their decisions, that's why u are so paînèd.
The avèràge Nîgèrîan thinks he is so intelligent.
That makes 200 million intelligent people being held hostage by a few thousands who consider these 200 million as dûmb, this begs the question, who is more dûmb?
The 200 million heId hostage by a few thousands or the few thousands holding the millions hostage.
Every society in the world knows that the ruling class are elites, ur moàñing wón't change that.
I am not angry at ur steewpidity, I am trying to tell u that u are more steewpid than the people u think are the dûmbest creatures u have ever seen.
U have reverted from ur story of me bowing before polîticians now?
They are normal people to me.
I have met ur type alot.
I met a man who was all mouths like u not knowing that the owner of the Bajaj bike he's repairing is actually a younger brother to the sitting governor of the state.
When he learnt that, he was almost kissing his feet.
That's not the deputy govèrñór yet but his brother.

Kobojunkie:
Rubbish . . . delusions of the small-minded, is what I call what you stated above. The house is burning today, but these people are advocating that their breakfast include akara. . . . how the heck is that a solution to anything?

What exactly is regional Government going to do to the crisis they are facing? Annihilate the Islam fundamentalists in the populace? Kill off Boko Haram? Reduce number of Almajiri's and uneducated youths on the streets? Create a Uthopia up north for these Christians? Make Sharia go away? What does giving more power to the local governments in the North do for Northern Christians? Some of these governments already have their special Sharia Police in place . . what does strengthening that do for Northern Christians?

Tell me, which of the above can be accomplished by moving from the current system to Regional Government that you are joining them in advocating for?

On a second thought, regional góvèrñment will brew crîsès in regions where christians are a minority because sharia may stand tall.
That's on a second tho after going through ur paragraph but regional góvèrñment should work well for the south.

Blue3k:
The market decide what everyone pays. Even the politicians bowed to market pressure. Lol you're a mumu with no self respect that's why you're always groveling. You're just projecting at this point because you'd actually fall flat on your face because a senator or house rep talked to a bum like you.

Intelligence doesn't always win. You already debunked that point telling me it's 90%. You're Unintelligent politicians can't stop the brute force bandits. I guess the bandits also intelligent by your logic because their the defacto rulers of certain village.

Lol I noticed you given up on proving they're intelligent. You just want to argue they're collectively powerful. That's fine I didn't argue otherwise. They're idiots with power just like the lowly animals I talked about. Power and intelligence aren't the same.

Polîticians bow to market pressure yet they decide the price u are buying fuel today?
LOL.
I come from a family who has produced state commissioners, the current senator representing my zone passed nights in our house.
A former minister made an offer to me through his boys which I rejected because of the greed involved in it and the attempt to rip the foreign company involved.
I am not a IówIife like u, I simply choose a simple life because that's what gives me peace.
My friend's older brother is in the green chamber, my close friend will be running for HOR in 2027.
So trust me when I say u are f00I when u think poIiticians are the "dûmbest creatures" u have ever seen and u are sitting there allowing them to call the shots that affects ur life every blessed day.
If they are so dûmb and u are so intelligent, they wón't be calling the shots for u.
Trust me on that.

Kukutente23:
What the hell are you yapping about era? Is intelligence confined to era? I'm surprised you're this myopic.
Let me bring it home then since you're so rigid.
If acquisition of political power is based on level of intelligence, how did Shagari beat Awolowo twice to the presidency? Heck, how come men of lower intellect kept beating their betters from Ahmadu Bello vs Awolowo to Gowon vs Ojukwu to MKO vs Abacha?

Meeting steewpid people online is something I encounter everyday, so tackling folks like u is not difficult.
First and foremost, u should made the analogy with Mark Anthony and Caesar Augustus not Nero.
Was Mark Anthony more intelligent than Caesar Augustus?
I would have answered u properly on that, bringing Mark Anthony from an ancient era to compare with Nero of generations ahead is crass, u dón't even know what u are talking about u wrote it as "McAnthony", who da fvck writes Mac (Mark, Marc, Marcus) Anthony as "McAnthony"?
One of the key attribute of intelligence is knowing how to poII resources together, the fact that Tinubu won this election shows he is clearly more intelligent than Atiku and Obi combined.
Someone can be brutaI but intelligent, doñ't confuse intelligence for kindness gentleman.
If Ojukwu was more inteIIgent than Gowon, he would have won the wàr, a military commander should know he needs food to feed his army, Ojukwu didn't know that, Gowon did.
One of the key attributes of intelligence is knowing what u have to do and when to do it.
U clearly have no proof that MKO is more intelligent than Abacha, Shagari and Ahmadu Bello.

Kukutente23:
If intelligence is all it takes to become powerful, Mark Antony should have become emperor. Nero should never have become emperor. Do you agree?

Mark Anthony and Nero existed in same era?

NOwazobia:
It is not that you are not interested, you don't have a point to the opposite, but as the usual agbado way of jumping on every topic when they sensed it threatened their interest, you had to say something, which made you end up disgracing yourself.


If you actually have something sensible to say, you would have said it.


We are not new to you.


Your corn stain every where for the platform.

I rarely comment about Rivers politics.
Wike is winning, Fubara is winning, blablabla, I barely give a dàmñ.
If u are not aware that the post made a generalized comment which I am talking about, sorry, I can't help u.
Someone who believes a faiIed govèrñór is a messiah is beyond mentaI help.

Blue3k:
An idiot with power is still an idiot at the end of the day. Nope they're not my superiors. They just foolish public servants ready to bought like any prostitute that walks the street. I don't work for them, they avg politian doesn't rank high on social status, and they aren't superior in quality. They're superior tp a lame like yourself with nothing going on in your life.

Lol I'm glad you moved the goal post from always to 90%. Intelligence doesn't always raw power. Since you've admitted such that debate is over. Glad a dimwitted like you understand the importance of intelligence considering how little you have.

Lol.
IowIives always struggle to live with reality.
I guess u buy a litre of fuel at a price of ur choosing?
Don't u?
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Always sounding like a kid who's hûñgry.
The world knows there is a country called Nigèria, the world doesn't know about ur exîstènce, but they know about the leaders, u can only rant on Nairaland, when u meet a senator or a HOR member, u fall flat with all humility mouthing all respect.
I would really like u to call them these names to their face, always bIabbiñg.
Intelligence has always beàtèñ brute force, intelligence always win, even when intelligence face a set back, it always comes back to win that's the reason I put it on a percentage scale, Albert Einstein who thinks a polar bear always kill a man because of brute force is confused about simple analogy.
If we check ur life now, we will see how èmpty it is and how this intelligence has helped u.
U are talking from the pàins the political class has caused u, ur life depends on their decisions so much that u h8 them with passion.
If u are so superior, call the shots and stop f00Iing urseIf that u don't have interest in calling the shots.
That's first grade f00Iing.

Kukutente23:
How did Nero become Emperor in Rome?
Was he more intelligent than McAntony?

I am struggling to understand this analogy of urs.
Mark Anthony of the era of Julius Caesar and Nero of years later in same comparison?

Blue3k:
False again mumu. Your higher intelligence is won't save you if a polar bear attacks. Raw power beats intelligence in certain scenarios. Humans have always been the most intelligent creatures on this planet but theres plenty of times they've been at the mercy of nature. Again these mumu are your superiors not mine. Your foolishness is in class of its own.

"The mumus" decides the price of fuel, u pay.
They decide minimum wage, it binds on u.
They decide how electricity supply works, it binds on u.
They decide which road they make, it binds on u.
They decide whether to build railways or not, it binds on you.
Tell me again they are not ur superiors.
Any human being with avèràge sènsè of reasoning knows that u can outmaneuver a polar bear because of ur intelligence, some how, Albert Einstein on Nairaland thinks every human falls when a polar bear attàck them.
U really need to upgrade or stop replying, each reply keeps demystifying ur assumed intelligence.
90% of the time intelligence has always beàtèñ brute power.
Humans survived and evolved throughout time because of intelligence not raw power.
Humans are evolving and finding their way around nature because of intelligence.

NOwazobia:
You actually dull, i swear.


You are running around without saying anything reasonable.


Initially, i thought you wanted to oppose his points but you were just giving unnecessary admonition without saying anything relating to the topic at hand.


I believe you dey chop corn 🌽 while you dey type, reason you sounded clueless.

U are Ióst too?
Lol.
It's very easy to form intelligent online.
So u didn't read my previous comments?
I already made my point, the poster knows what I am talking about, accepting his steewpidity is difficult for him that's why he keeps giving me unnecessary mentions.
I am not interested in the post, I am more about a statement he made, if u are so èmpty u cañ't see that my reply is about that comment, then u need to be in SS1 where u will be trained on comprehension skills.

Igbodicool:
So that the bitter souls from the sky demon people of wasteland will rest.

I am not from SW but I am 100% sure SW is not at fauIt, it's same u foIks who channeled so much h8 towards the north for 8 years that are at fauIt.

Blue3k:
You're mumu ramblings are getting boring at this point. You can't explain what makes these creatures intelligent or the wisdom in their strategy. This is because you conflate intelligence with power. Yes a fool can have power over you but it doesn't make then intelligent. It seems you're just on your fools errand defending the indefensible. If being a mumu pleases you continue unabashed with the idiotic creatures you revere.

Intelligence always beats power without intelligence.
U keep showing the reason why u are a bigger f00I.
Ur inteIIigence tho, just Iike kids who play in the sands.
They always think they are wiser than their superiors.

Aksally:
My brother calm down. This is my first comment in over how many years. Go back and check the comment I replied.

Then ur comment is mistimed and shouldn't be in the discussion.
Maybe u should have read the comment I replied to first before replying me.

The people who says they vote competence over tribe, religion and party.
They have been iñsuIting Soludo for long, let's see how it plays out now.

Igbodicool:
And you are still crying about it after more than 50 years.

BIAFRA is the nemesis of Nigeria.
You can only hide from it but can't deny it.

I always hope Biafra comes for u guys.
So that u can stay in ur homes.

dominic17:
Maybe likeness is when a Yoruba mine Skulls of fellow Yorubas, I give up

Maybe it's when an lgb0 kiIIs his son or wife for money.

Blue3k:
Lol, why shouldn't I be interested in this topic of politics and strategy? There are plenty of lessons to be learned in their failures. Yes, they're foolish, and they should be studied as a cautionary tale. If you weren't as dense as the mumus you hold in high esteem, you wouldn't need me to explain this to you.

If u are so intelligent u would have been able to read between the lines, admitting that people above u are "the dumbest creatures u have seen" clearly shows u are dûmb.
That's what most of u online Albert Einstein are too dûmb to understand, I am bringing it to ur attention, yet u are so dûmb u think it's me defending polîticians.
Ur dûmbñèss stinks so bad.

Aksally:
Remove APC votes from Rivers, Wike will not be minister and he will be out of government

I thought u said it was Wike who made Tinubu the president, u are turning the table now?
Some of u dón't know what to argue but keeping quiet is difficult.
Are we talking about Wike being a minister or we are talking about Wike making Tinubu the president?
I am not someone u engage without a point, I will always point to the reason why are having that discussion, I don't do beer parlor argument where people talk and talk and talk without making any point.

dominic17:
Useless propaganda, we know the tribe that come together and build market etc to develop their town without waiting for government, train their brother in the same trade they are into and give them money to start up their trade, vote in one accord to anybody they like. How else can likeness be demonstrated

Voting in one accord is not likeness.
Training ur brother in a business where u serve him with soured meals in ur house, he wears rags and u seize his phones is not likeness, u use him like an animal who has no will of his own clearly displays the Iàck of likeness.
We are not f00Is.
It's very common in SE for siblings to kiII each other over a plot of 50/100.
A Sóûth Easterner doing business in other places find it difficult to migrate back to SE because he will face hostiIity from his own people.

Blue3k:
I already told you I don't have Interest in being a politician clown. I told you I have interest in the subject and actions since it has effect on society. It's the same reason one should have an interest in the weather or crime. Politicians don't meet the definition you posted, but like a mumu, you argue blindly. They aren't the richest members of society or best educated or group in the society. The average politician doesn't hold a doctorate degree and doesn't on the forbes Forbes list. These guys aren't very impressive unless you believe voting yourself or stealing other people money is impressive. Even telling me they're powerful is questionable. Just look at how these clowns in the majority can't effect their collective will. They were too stupid to simply understand math. They're also easily bought with a cash via lobbying hence so maybe the business owners should be considered elite by this definition not the politician.

I am sure if we are on a TV program, where u have an audience u are talking to, u will be f00Iish enough to spew same tràsh u are spewing now.
It's easy to type.
It's very easy to be extremely intelligent in a faceless forum.
Intelligent men are never interested in businesses involving "dûmbest creatures they have ever seen".

Dafresh:
Online noise are not regarded.

Most nóísé are made online.

Ngozi123:
Clearly, those statements were targeted at the Yoruba Tinubu supporters who (because of tribalism) chose to vote in someone who was not suited for the presidency. You even allude to it in your commen here.

I am not a Yorûba, I have said it repeatedly, Tinubu got more votes from North West than any region including SW, I am sure NW people are Yorubas, isn't it?

dozzymorinho:
Is what am saying those people are nepotic and selfish, if an igbo man becomes president you won't even hear one Igbo man saying trash, what is causing their problem now is this cultural racism, they don't like anyone but themselves

They don't even like themselves but themselves.
Anambra doñ't like Ebonyi, same as other states, within the state, they still doñ't like themselves, within the LG, they doñ't like themselves, down to family, siblings doñ't even like themselves.
They cañ't give what they doñ't have, we have allowed them to spill bile for too long.
That's why they are getting brutaI replies now.

Felimax:
It's my emotions not yours! Can I concentrate now?

Sometimes we have to remind u folks of the actual facts, because we have allowed u all for long telling bare faces lies with ur emotions.