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victorD3:
Rubbish journalism! How did PDP suffer set back if they can still bring the same witnesses within the 14days.

One witness practically supported the
case of the Petitioners, Mr. Umana Okon Umana and
the All Progressives Congress (APC), that there was no
election in the State.

ArodewilliamsT:
wetin this slave dey yarn? Abeg give way!

ret@rd you're the slave not me

PointB:
Ok, you've been noticed.

Now make way for far more intelligible inputs.

intelligent inputs on phoolish thread. keep waiting

clowns let them march they'll get tired and later loot shops and harass innocent traders in the south east like they always do.

another TANoid ranting. I thought asari said Nigeria will go up in flames if Jona looses? Buhari has been sworn in for over 100days now and you internet militants haven't been able to do anything.
Nothing will happen if rivers state goes to APC

PointB:
I am an artist; I draw words!

you have PhD in wailionogy
keep wailing and if Buhari wins again in 2019 you'll be a professor

anwo247:
No one is fighting corruption in nigeria because buhari is so corrupt and a chronic liar.


JP Morgan delisting? Okonjo Iweala's tireless efforts placed the Nigerian economy on a pedestal, kept us at constant growth, single digit inflation, got us into the bond index etc all under GEJ while the dullard body language or is it body odour has got us here. Where is the next position? No one knows. Even the gullible followers don't know nothing. No plans, no cabinet, no one is responsible, just him, his security aides, the 'YesSir' special advisers and his drivers..... we shd be talking about the largest economy in Africa if it will ever remain so

phool the process of delisting was initiated January when your hero was still president. go back read that news. ewu

ret@rd of this unprovoked attack on a sitting president makes the FP that means Nairaland has been compromised
you can write all the epistle you want. that man remains your president till 2019

chuna1985:
Why is s waste used to giving links from Wikipedia which is a site anyone in d world can edit

Yoruba r slaves to Bini people, arguing it shows grows stupidity.

Finally, Oduduwa story is a Myth n Legends, just like every tribe have theirs.

I hope u don't believe that oduduwa came from heaven with 2 coconut



Why is s waste used to giving links from Wikipedia which is a site anyone in d world can edit

Yoruba r slaves to Bini people, arguing it shows grows stupidity.

Finally, Oduduwa story is a Myth n Legends, just like every tribe have theirs.

I hope u don't believe that oduduwa came from heaven with 2 coconut

and what if I believe? I bet you believe Jesus rose up from the grave and ascended the heavens after 3days. at least oduduwas story didn't defy the law of gravity

chuna1985:
Ile ife is a conquered place owned by Bini people. It's their home.

where is ur own write up n references

if this doesn't cure your ignorance then it's hate

Oduduwa had sons, daughters, and a grandson who went
on to found their own kingdoms and empires, namely Ila
Orangun , Owu , Ketu , Sabe , Popo and Oyo. Oranmiyan ,
Oduduwa's last born, was one of his father's principal
ministers and overseer of the nascent Edo empire after
Oduduwa granted the plea of the Edo people for his
governance. When Oranmiyan decided to go back to Ile
Ife after a period of service in Benin, he left behind a child
named Eweka that he had in the interim with an
indigenous princess. The young boy went on to become
the first legitimate ruler of the second Edo dynasty that
has ruled what is now Benin from that day to this.
Oranmiyan later went on to found the Oyo Empire that
stretched at its height from the western banks of the river
Niger to the Eastern banks of the river Volta. It would
serve as one of the most powerful of Africa's medieval
states prior to its collapse in the 19th century.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ife

still waiting for you to tell me how and when Benin conquered all the way to Lagos

VickJames:
This guy don't seem to get it. You only defended a lost empire. Ibadan never grew more than a city state. Please get yourself together. The Fulanis didn't see any reason to drive very far to conquer you guys. You can still see the belittling eyes the Fulanis still give you guys.

No matter how you develop, the Fulanis will still see you guys as the people they conquered. A lost empire. The yoruba heritage was destroyed by Fulanis. And the pain will continue to hunt your people forever. The Fulanis sent your king packing. They ran for their lives from the old oyo-ile to ibadan. See the distance on foot coupled with the fear and tremble.

You cannot change history to boost your ego, sorry about that. The story is that Oyo empire was decimated by cattle rearers. I'm sorry it had to end like that. If only Uthman Dan Fodio had continued his conquest, your tribe would've been off the map.

Thank Olodumare for coming to the rescue by sending the better enemy from Lagos, the British.

ignoramus Ibadan fought the fulanis somewhere in osogbo and drove them out of Yoruba land. Ilorin went to the Fulani cos the people never fought for themselves. they converted to Islam. stop twisting history to suit your tribal hate.
Yoruba would have been off the map when Ibadan defeated the fulanis DECISIVELY? you need to be educated

The military sanctuary
expanded even further when refugees began arriving in
large numbers from northern Oyo following raids by
Fulani warriors. After losing the northern portion of their
region to the marauding Fulanis , many Oyo indigenes
retreated deeper into the Ibadan environs.
The Fulani Caliphate attempted to expand further into the
southern region of modern-day Nigeria, but was
decisively defeated by the armies of Ibadan in 1840

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadan

In 1840, Ibadan forces defeated Fulani
invaders from the north at the battle of Oshogbo , thus
protecting S Yorubaland from attack. The city came under
British protection in 1893, and was the capital of Nigeria's
former Western Region

www.infoplease.com/encyclopedia/world/ibadan.html

THE IBADAN EMPIRE
The Ibadan Expansionist Wars took place between 1840 -
1878. Emeritus Professor Akinjogbin in his "Wars in
Yorubaland, 1793 - 1893: An analytical categorisation" puts
it thus: "By 1865, Ibadan had grown to become the strongest
political force in Yorubaland. In those 25 years, virtually all
the Oyo speaking areas, the Ife Kingdom, the Ijesha
Kingdom, the whole of Ekiti, Akoko and Yagbe, came under
what has been called The Ibadan Empire from which the
Fulani invaders had been driven out".
So successful was Ibadan that the Ijebu Kingdom and the
Egba State constantly suspected, not without reason, that
Ibadan might want to take them over as well and become
"Master of the whole world". What an hyperbole!
How the Ibadan Empire, which for all practical purposes
succeeded the defunct Oyo Empire, has been scholarly
traced in three works: Samuel Johnson: History of the
Yorubas, J.F. Ade Ajayi and R. Smith: Yoruba Warfare and
Professor Bolanle Awe: Oxford PH.D. thesis (1964) - "The
Rise of the Ibadan Empire".
The leaders of Ibadan during these era, stemming the Fulani
calvary drive and their expansionist onslaught, were Oluyole
(Bashorun). Ibikunle, the (Balogun); Oderinlo, (the Balogun);
Ogunmola; (the Otun); and Oshundina, (the Osi).

www.segundawodu.com/akinjid1.htm

so for 38yrs after Ibadan defeated the Fulanis and sent them back to Ilorin where the people wanted them they couldn't defeat Ibadan. even during the 16yrs of Yoruba civil war Ibadan was fighting Ekiti parapo on one side, the egbas and ijebu on one side and still battling Fulanis from Ilorin in the north!!!

chuna1985:
Bini conquered s waste n converted Lagos to their war camp. They also instilled/installed Oba leadership to Yoruba people. So u really believe that oduduwa coming down from heaven to earth with coconut, lol. s wasters sha, we know u wella

lmao ret@rd. don't you find it funny that it's mostly you IBO humanoids that have made it a life time goal to propagate this falsehood? even the Benin people never made such claims. You completely avoided what I asked for. Back ur claims with verifiable history write ups with references. failure to do that makes you the phool I've always suspected you were.

BTW do you know any oba of Benin has to visit ile Ife before his coronation? do you know the late oba of Benin's head has to be buried in ile Ife the final resting place? that's simply because they have their origin from oranmiyan the son of oduduwa.

who cares? bunch of bitter clowns

who cares? bunch of bitter clowns

VickJames:
Please, next time, don't quote wordpress for me .

Please, I never said you guys didn't pull a stunt at one time. I've read your history more than I think you've read it. Ibadan only forestalled the expansion of the Fulanis with the help of the Ijebus, so calm down with the praises.

Internal squabbles? Have u forgotten that you guys didn't have an empire again and everyone were looking protection and none trusted the other. So, they created different city states.

I think the Uthman Dan Fodios didn't see anything in expanding past his limits that's why he didn't launch a major assault on you guys.

Ibadan city state was not as big as Oyo empire, therefore they're no match for the Fulanis in the war front.

lol and the idiot tries to downplay the victory of the Ibadan against the Fulani again. why won't a blood thirsty Fulani man launch another campaign against the people that defeated him for 16yrs? the answer is simple. the Fulanis stood no chance. the area was hilly and their Calvary was useless. they had to come down from their horses and fight the Ibadan people who were determined to protect their freedom. don't make the victory look like a small one. ewu IBO. go and find out the meaning of the song below

Ogun o ko won ri
Ogun o ko won ri
Omo Ibadan i seru enikan
Ogun o ko won ri!!!

the Yoruba civil war was discussed sometimes on nairaland years ago. Ilorin which was now under the control of the fulanis was still fighting Ibadan all through the civil but Ibadan never lost!!!

www.nairaland.com/864525/yoruba-kiriji-wars-1877-1893

prove me wrong

chuna1985:
Lmao, One day, one story. Is the middle belt d only path to get to igbo land U Yoruba people know how to lie constantly. Bini empire didn't resist fulani,, But rather Bini empire conquered the Yoruba people completely. Take those ur useless fall stories to people who are uninformed.

For ur info, onitsha people are Bini settlers, so don't talk more carp.

hahahaha clown could you please give me the full story of how and when the Bini conquered Yoruba? I hope you know the son of the last born of Oduduwa was the first king of Benin? no king will ascend the throne in Benin without first coming to ile Ife. no matter what you clowns try to propagate. some of us will just laugh at your foolishness

Yujin:
My reference of Ibadan as disorganized was with respect to how the settlement was formed and not its military prowess. I want you to remember they fought only a small fraction of the fulani army. When the fulanis retreated to illorin they where preparing for a strong come back before the British intervened.

yeah yeah yeah strong come back that didn't come in 16yrs of Yoruba civil war after the defeat of the Fulanis. you are not Yoruba

VickJames:
I'm sorry you find history difficult to interprete. Please listen without arguing. The Oyo empire was much more bigger the size of Ibadan empire.

The ibadan empire was just the remnant of lost victory. Check the size of ibadan and maybe two other local governments and compare it with the whole yoruba land. Please think about what you say before saying it.

You guys only defeated the Fulanis when they were trying to expand more than their limits. You guys never grow passed your predecessors.

lmao what a load of crap. so now that I forced you to accept the important role Ibadan played in the defeat of those Oyo couldn't defeat you are trying to downplay the importance of Ibadan and it's victory against the fulanis. what a dolt!!! the fulanis would have been sent back as far as sokoto if not primarily for the internal squabbles amongst the chiefs and power brokers of the Oyo empire. no one was interested in fighting the fulanis

https://takeupanarm./2011/04/22/how-and-what-made-oyo-collapse/

Meanwhile, Fulani/Hausas were popularly used in
Yorubaland as cheap labors and servants, they were so
popular that looking down the nose upon the northerners
continued well into post-colonial years in Nigeria. So with
the call to arms, Hausa/Fulani laborers in the Oyo
underground economy swelled the ranks by fleeing to
Ilorin. Ojo, the only surviving son of Ga, along with the
Onikoyi of Ikoyi, which was then the largest provincial
town of Oyo hence marched against Ilorin.
The Ikoyi’s were the royal battalion of the imperial army
and were also known as Ikoyi-Eso (Guards Battalion).
When the war began and Hausa/Fulani ex-laborers
roamed the country pillaging and selling their former
Yoruba aristocratic masters as slaves to white slave
buyers (as happened to Ajayi Crowther and his mother
who were sold to Portuguese when their village was
sacked by the Muslims later in 1821: read earlier post of
Eshu and Christian Devil on this blog), Afonja became
displeased with this.
And since he was still suspected of being loyal to Yoruba
than Islam, Alimi had Afonja killed and his son, Abdul
Salami took Ilorin throne as emir, giving allegiance to the
Sokoto caliphate. Thus Ilorin became a part of the Sokoto
caliphate. There was no central authority anymore in Oyo
and a lot of the provinces kept breaking away and the
disunity did not give a common cause to the Yorubas to
fight and retake Ilorin.
Some Yorubas by this time living in Ilorin had also
accepted Islam and thus while Ilorin swelled with a
platform for its warriors to fight on in one cause, there
was no single cause the Yorubas stood for a united fight.
The center no longer held and things badly fallen apart.
There was no more cavalry for the Oyo army since
horses were before bought from northern trade routes
which were now closed because of the war against
Fulani/Hausa

Yujin:
The departure of the Oyos from katunga was not out of choice but from force and it was very recent. The end product is the formation of the disorganized Ibadan. Illorin remains a fulani territory(I'm not proud of it) and there's nothing you can do about it. The Yorubas there tried to challenge it during obj's era but failed when the new oba they installed died mysteriously. You can verify it through Google. And it was the fulanis that sacked old oyo not the small nupe.

you are not a Yoruba man if you had the courage to call Ibadan disorganized. Ibadan did what Oyo couldn't do. Ibadan defeated the Fulanis. please take a lesson in history. don't jump to conclusion.

VickJames:
Please tell that story to those who need ginger. The downfall of oyo empire marked the downfall of the yoruba kingdom. You guys started having different people with different heads.

The igbo never had a kingdom of some sort because they never saw its necessity because they were protected from all angles. And their immediate neighbours were more less friends.

The time the igbos went to war was with a formidable force which was the british army. A people of then not more than 3million fought the british army for close to 35years before they eventually did mago-mago and brought our leaders to a kangaroo court and sentenced them.

Do you know how many british captains were killed during ekumeku's war that spanned almost 15years? Let me make the whole thing simple for you. We were the reason the almagamation took them time to initiate. Because after the ekumeku's war, the whole Nigeria was under them.

The igbos don't bow down to no man, and most of all unscrupulous ones. We stand when we need to stand!

The igbos fought Biafran war with Nigerian soldiers with super-powers behind Nigeria. But you guys lost 500,000 soldiers. Can u imagine the number?

The problem u guys had and I have to tell you, you guys designated people to be soldiers and left some to be suckers. That's why when your soldiers are been dealt with, you guys will shrink. I am not insulting you but only saying the truth. Territories that were defeated then, using my knowledge of warfare, were the ones who had a defined army and when the armies were taken down. The remaining were weaklings.

But a region like the igbo region where no definite army, you don't know who to fight. And everyone fought for two reasons: for their families, and for their names. That's one thing you guys will never have.

"They're stubborn, they hardly bend to oppression, but they're progressive. If the europeans are not careful, they may overtake us."

idiot why do you people always claim to know Yoruba history more than us? it's simply because you are hell bent on propagating falsehood. the fall of the Oyo empire was the rise of Ibadan. people fled Oyo and took refuge in Ibadan. Ibadan defeated the Fulanis

Ibadan grew into an impressive
and sprawling urban center so much that by the end of
1829, Ibadan dominated the Yorùbá region militarily,
politically and economically . The military sanctuary
expanded even further when refugees began arriving in
large numbers from northern Oyo following raids by
Fulani warriors. After losing the northern portion of their
region to the marauding Fulanis , many Oyo indigenes
retreated deeper into the Ibadan environs.
The Fulani Caliphate attempted to expand further into the
southern region of modern-day Nigeria, but was
decisively defeated by the armies of Ibadan in 1840

Ibadan was never as great as the Oyo empire in terms of land mass but Ibadan never lost a war!!! In fact the armies of Ibadan stopped Fulani incursion down south
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibadan

VickJames:
The centre stopped being strong that's why the ibadan warriors had to fight to keep their lives rather than for the empire. If you have read psychology of warfare, you will have known that if the "oyo empire" wanted to regain its lands, it will want to get back his thrown which he left running. There was no strong person left after the onslaught, so stop making history look sweet for your people.

idiot so if the empire collapsed under it's own weight how then can you say that the fulanis brought an end to it? didn't you know the Ibadan kingdom emerged a regional power from the downfall of Oyo and stood strong against all invaders. now can you tell us about IBO history?

VickJames:
Someone said the athenians had an empire. What kind of biased and unread person will say that?

Someone said the igbos lived in hamlets, oh! I've lived in the yorubaland for ages, I can't find any form of civilisation in their ancient buildings except mud which has low binding capacity.

The yorubas couldn't have attacked the igbos because they'll have to cross the Niger river. So, let me tell you something, can your "empire" win that kind of war? What sort of madness will that be?

Only 1/20th of the igbo population were staying at the other side of Niger. So, claiming u defeated and enslaved those people isn't much of a question. Let me draw a similar scenario here, the roman and persian empire were taking each others territory without major onslaught from the capital. The only time they'll attack u back is when u try to moved beyond ur boundary limit.

Going back to the igbos, the igbos had democracy in their heads and hated oppression. You will never cross the major rivers and go back victorious. I swear it. You don't dare.

All the yoruba chanters, I am very sorry. You guys were the easiest to beat. They even sent your kings on exile. Your thrown empty. Someone even lied that they just relocated the thrown? For what? Give me one good reason why you should relocate your throne?

The only plausible reason you can give is that Uthman Dan Fodio sacked you guys from your capital. And your ibadan warrior had to stop them from moving further. That did not mean that you guys chased them away. The sacking of Oyo-ile led to different disgruntled houses to renege on the throne and fight for their independence. That's why we have different obas today.

Mr. Man stop concocting lies from the pit of hell to help your tribe look strong okay. Uthman Dan Fodio was a stronger soldier than your sophisticated warlords who tremble in the site of real attacks.

stop ranting like a deranged person. back your claims up with verifiable links and references. the truth is that the Oyo empire collapsed due to internal squabbles. if you have a different view prove it

pazienza:
History revisionism from Yorubas as usual.

Historical facts remains that the mud house infested weak Oyo village empire was invaded, conquered and ransacked by gallant Nupe warriors, Oyo Ile was captured and forever lost, while the Yorubas were forced to move down south to their present location.


On the Ilorin front, the end of the matter was that Ilorin was captured by the Gambaris with the aid of a treacherous Yoruba man, and all attempts by Oyo to recapture Ilorin failed, cos let's face it, they were no match to the Gambaris.

The Yoruba citizens of Ilorin were then turned to subjects, with a Gambaris Emir put on throne, the Gambaris as with conquering minorities, had over the centuries to yorubanize by marrying Yoruba subjects, to keep their Yoruba subjects pacified and to avoid uprising.

idiot even after giving you links with references you still choose to propagate falsehood. even if Oyo was defeated we can at least boast of an empire and a strong political system before the coming of the white man. what can you ibos boast of? running after hyenas barefooted and dancing round a fire before proceeding to sleep in caves at night?

lmao the erosion in the sw is a joke compared to that of the south east.

VonBismark:
IGNORAMUS, so having empires is now a criteria for greatness. Now listen the Igbos love being free and that is why the igbos have autonomous communities even till today the empire thing is not the way we flow we have no need for one. We dnt believe we are under any human being we believe in God that is why we will always have problem with Nigeria which is a white mans creation. The only time we came close to forming what looked like an empire, the entire Nigeria couldn't defeat us and had to invite the so called white men to intervene and even at that they didn't find it easy and the civil war ended no Victor no Vanquished which was just words put together to oil the ego of the so called nigerians because they where heavily beaten. Yes we may hv appeared weak and chased bush meat, but then have ever heard the saying never touch the tail of a lion whether its dead or alive. Well I dnt expect u or any of ur cohorts to understand and as usual u pple are going to select certain areas of my comment to make ur vituperative utterances. But I realised that u pple do so cos u re used to lies and those utterances are the only things u can tell yourselves so as to cure or calm ur insomnia

slowpoke an empire and a political system like that of the Oyo empire long before the colonial era is a sign of civilization. I know you hate to admit it but the Oyo empire had a system of king, king maker, war chiefs and law makers long before the colonial era. if that is not greatness to you then I now understand why ibos don't have such history

CSTR2:
I refuse to reply you because your source was bogus.
Wikipedia is not a credible source. It was probably written by a yoruba revisionist.
And no, oyo kingdom was not an empire. it had no foreign territories of note. Infact it lost it own territories.
And yes, you guys are cowards. The only credible threat that came via colonialism saw you guys prostrating like insects even before they landed.
Just thank your stars the oyo kingdom did not extend its madness down east. We would have treated your fucckups.

lmao was there anything like foreign in the west Africa of 17th century? it's not an empire but it covered 150,000 square km. are you more knowledgeable than those that called it the oyo empire? so the wikipedia link i gave you doesn't have references? have you verified all the references before trashing the link? you really are dumber than I thought

chuna1985:
So out of the whole igbo land, only small pocket(delta state) was conquered by all mighty Bini empire

Why didn't they conquer igbo land since we are weaklings.

It took the colonial masters 35 years to conquer igbo land, that should show u why no one dared to attack d weak igbos.

lmao you jokers should thank the middle belt for resisting Fulani incursion to your territory from the north and also thank the Binis for resisting the Oyo empire from the west. Oyo empire extended all the way the port novo in the west. it would have extended all the way to IBO land if not for the resistance of the Bini people

CSTR2:
You are a tout and a slowpoke.
The greeks are no way superior to the igbo nation. Of course, they are probably superior to the cowardly yoruba nation afflicted with a serious case of herd mentality.

cow you refused to reply mentions since I bursted your bubble and schooled you earlier. cowards don't establish an empire. yorubas had empires before the white man came. what did Igbos have? ibos were busy chasing bush meat and dancing round a fire unclad.

pazienza:
Oyo village empire was defeated and ransacked by Nupe warriors and her Oyo ile capital seized. Forcing Oyo to move down south.

Again Oyo was defeated by the Fulanis and her Ilorin border seized and converted to an Emirate with a sitting Gambari Emir, with Ilorin Yoruba citizens converted to eternal slaves that have been gradually " Hausa- fulanized" over the decades.

You should bow down your head in shame.

It took the intervention of Britain and USSR and ceding of Bakassi to Cameroun to Bring the Biafrans down.

I don't know why you ediots try to tarnish other people's history just because of the hate you have for them. you really are a phool. now read this

Afonja’s influence thus began to grow. Afonja tried to
become emperor, but some chiefs opposed this. Thus in
1817, he declared Ilorin also independent just as other
provinces were also doing. Afonja had a Fulani adviser,
Mallam Alimi, and he encouraged dan Fodio jihadists
warriors to support Afonja.
Meanwhile, Fulani/Hausas were popularly used in
Yorubaland as cheap labors and servants, they were so
popular that looking down the nose upon the northerners
continued well into post-colonial years in Nigeria. So with
the call to arms, Hausa/Fulani laborers in the Oyo
underground economy swelled the ranks by fleeing to
Ilorin. Ojo, the only surviving son of Ga, along with the
Onikoyi of Ikoyi, which was then the largest provincial
town of Oyo hence marched against Ilorin.
The Ikoyi’s were the royal battalion of the imperial army
and were also known as Ikoyi-Eso (Guards Battalion).
When the war began and Hausa/Fulani ex-laborers
roamed the country pillaging and selling their former
Yoruba aristocratic masters as slaves to white slave
buyers (as happened to Ajayi Crowther and his mother
who were sold to Portuguese when their village was
sacked by the Muslims later in 1821: read earlier post of
Eshu and Christian Devil on this blog), Afonja became
displeased with this.
And since he was still suspected of being loyal to Yoruba
than Islam, Alimi had Afonja killed and his son, Abdul
Salami took Ilorin throne as emir, giving allegiance to the
Sokoto caliphate. Thus Ilorin became a part of the Sokoto
caliphate. There was no central authority anymore in Oyo
and a lot of the provinces kept breaking away and the
disunity did not give a common cause to the Yorubas to
fight and retake Ilorin

I understand you ibos never had anything close to civilization before the coming of the white man. don't try to change history

https://takeupanarm./2011/04/22/how-and-what-made-oyo-collapse/

ibotic:
Haaaaaaaaa.........is it radio station we are going to use........to get our Biafra.......I think our problem is the shape of our heads........it is very flat........we must change this to be able to think like normal people......

hahahaha wicked

liberty300:
the same method china used to conquer the world....they started the same way

bunch of jokers

Uba scamed Jonathan. He got capital oil back. TAN is pointless now