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gatiano:
Thankyou too sir, and truely there is no need for arguments. However, I must state one more thing: There is no god but The Blackman and Blackwoman.
Most of the non-black elites have collided with other races grafted from them to take people away into some other places that they have called heaven. It is called rapture. Think about it Brother, Among all the prophets and messegers of all the books that there is, it was only one prophet that say of it whose name was Saul and later Paul, Who is not an apostle or disciple. Take a deep look into this and do not be raptured when it happens. Remember, only the meek whould inherit the earth. Check again what meek means.

Jesus Christ also spoke about rapture in matt24:38-40. I ve to be raptured becos I don't want to be here on earth to face Gods judgement of planet earth and satanic reign of the anti-christ which will come with unspeakable terror that will make Hitler, Stalin and Mao very small boys. After the rapture and Gods earth judgement comes the Return of Christ to earth to rule with an iron fist 4 a millenuim, The white throne judgement follows where sinners, satan and hell are thrown into the eternal lake of fire that stinks with sulfur, God burns up the earth with fervent heat, carries out a second recreation of earth and finally THE MEEK SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.

gatiano:
Some truths were not added, what does that mean? And who didn't add them? who wrote many versions of the bible? who publishes them? sho continues to retranslate them? was it in english language? what language did all these prophets speak, especially the man they called Jesus?
Thede books were intentionally removed, so that people can be enslaved. Knowledge shall increase means a lot of things, it meant technology and science.

The temple is nothing but Our Bodies. anything outside of that is all fake. That is why the body is called Temple.

I ve made researches and studies on the books that were not added and they all agree with the bible unlike ur strange black-gods stories. No need 4 more argument becos am not buying ur story. Am more concerned of ur salvation than ur racial origin.

gatiano:
The sun is only poisonous to those who are poisonous to nature and the earth and to those who live other than themselves. It is poisonous to the non-black/African skin, like what is currently happening in australia with the heatwave, and across europe.
If one sun is poisonous, what will happen when the other stars come closer together?

The Creators will never support incest, NEVER! Cain went to another people is what the bible wrote.
There are many Gods (Man and Woman), It is slightly shown in the bible, It is all over the Quran.
People (Black) are a direct descendant of the Originators. They didn't make us, They procreated us through man and woman sleeping together.
Other races are from us the children of the Originators.

How can God create a rat, then create a snake only to feed on the rat, does that make any sense? One creator created the rat, another creator created the snake. The rat's creator must always improve on the mechanism of his/her rat to balance the snakes, the snake's creator to would also improve his/her creation to be able to compete. This makes the creations into a perfect one which is a non-stop stuff.
Your Creator is different from Mine, your creator is different from your father's creator. Every Black person has a different Creator. The unity of all the Creators is what is called ONE GOD or ALLAH IS ONE.

Who are you? You are that creator having a human experience as a new personality. Your Creator will eternally be reincarnating Himself as new and fresh personalities all the time without end. We may discuss further on this if you are open minded.

God and those Angels are Men and Women (Humanbeings), The Angels are Gods too, and are no servants to nobody; But in our ancient cultures, tthe wisest is always the leader, which means the oldest is the leader.

I appreciate ur painstaking contribution to this thread but I can't accept ur explanation sir. Gods word is what I rely on and not words 4rm black gods, elders or ancestors.

cloudgoddess:
Either you've never read the bible or you've never taken a biology course.

I repeat no bible was re-written to suit science discoveries rather science discoveries affirms and testifies of what has always been in the bible for ages.

gatiano:
The sister was introduced in some chapters that is torned out of the bible, the bible should serve has truth, right? what is the bible then when it is been ripped apart? To be a punch of lies and where in it seem to be some truth in it, then those truth a allegory.

I am not punching your faith, do not get me wrong. You are Me, as I am You which is meant to push each other towards the truth, towards knowing the ledge which is knowledge.

don't make me laugh the bible is known as the book of different books which contains words of men, words of women, words of demons, words of satan and THE WORDS OF GOD ALMIGHTY. No book was torn out as u say but some books were not added to the book and these books were spoken about by characters in the bible that means they are 4 real. God said in these last days knowledge shall increase and the church is a part of the fulfilment of that prophecy. U are unique and I am unique so therefore we are not each other. I have the truth with me already.

gatiano:
God is omnipotent and omnipresent, I have no arguments about that. God is a magicians, He/She took His/Her time to build all the spheres that you see, by means of mathematics that you can also learn. Your purpose of creation is for you too to become God.
Have you ever seen a father/mother who donesn't want their children to grow more in knowledge than they are?

That ether is the reason why we can see the stars up there, The ether is the substance that binds all thing together in the universe. Which is the most binding element in the bible? Carbon. what is carbon? it is simply 666. I want you to find out why.

whatever scientists call their discovery of ether still remains a mystery to them. Study well becos in reality Gods word binds the massive earth and universe together. Take it or leave it.

gatiano:
How can something in its pureness as the sun be poisonous? It is very hot, anybody will get burnt if they are too close to it, that is why the earth is at a perfect position in relationship with the sun. Other planets are not, that is not to say there aren't beings on them.
Secondly, I mentioned about polarity. The sun has it positive and it negative. The covering that you mention is the interaction between both magnetic field of the earth which is now failing. It was made by The Creators and it wasn't supernatural, it is merely mathematics.

Are you saying you are a product of inbreeding? I know that about the caucasian white people, now the African/Blacks are now copying it just like I told you and the black people do that in close doors, caucasian do it openly.

Men and people come from the vagina of a woman, we have all experienced that. No one has see woman come from man's ribs.
What that theology means is that, there is no man without a woman and no woman without a man. man is not complete without a woman. polarity.

The only reason why we take protective suit in space is because there is no air, and withour air there can be no sound. and on the moon, the suit is to protect human from loosing water since the moon has a great attractive affinity for water.

All the angels you mentioned are also Humanbeings (Blacks) born of a woman, That God their Brother, their leader is also a Blackman born out of another woman, He has a Father too just like you and I.

I stand by my statement that d sun is poisonous to body terrestrial but God's protective providence covers us 4rm exposure to burns and radiation. Common sense should tell u dat inbreeding was necessary 4 the first man on earth(adam) to marry someone 4rm his own in order to populate the earth. How can u populate the earth without early inbreeding? People of old lived longer years in order to populate the earth and God also permitted polygamy 4 population growth. Is that necessary now? Nope. Those angels are no humans my guy.

oglalasioux:
Can you go through my post again? Do it slowly this time. I hope you understand it this time.

maybe u should challenge my comment becos am not repenting 4rm wat I wrote against evolution except the evolution occured after the time of noah. e

oglalasioux:
Don't believe that annunaki crap. Evolution is the only explanation for the origin of all life on earth. Annunaki genetically engineering us doesn't stand up due to the changes over the years. The only tangible explanation is Evolution. If there is a God that created life then He did it through process of evolution.

Evolution is crap too unless u telling us that all races of the world evolved 4rm Noahs 3 sons.

gatiano:
who was his sister? so you love a god that support incest? that god could also be a gay (rudeness not intended Brother).

his sister was indicated in one of the non-canonica books of the bible(many books were excluded 4rm the bible e.g enoch, jubilees etc). Try and read about the "Forgotten books of Eden"

gatiano:
And the earth is not hanging on nothing, is within the space which is something, a substances like a coal called ether. just like a tyre roll gripping on a tied road so its swame thing how the earth rolls gripping on ether. Even the sun is rolling and gripping on the same ether. It is this ether that is the skin of every Black person.

hahaha and the massive weighty earth is held in place by this ether? My brother u must clap 4 Gods Omnipotence.

gatiano:
Children Exposed To Religion Have Difficulty Distinguishing Fact From Fiction, Study Finds
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/21/children-religion-fact-fiction_n_5607009.html

Sun is poisonous? You have given the atheists on nairaland (your family) something to brag and dance about for a whole week. Without sun, you won't grow, the earth would not move, rotate or revolve. infact without the sun, there would not be THIS earth, because at onetime several eons ago, the earth spinned out of the sun, other planets in this solar system is formed in the same manner. The sun is not poisonous to no Black person that lives his/her life accordingly like a black person. I can't say for other races especially the caucasians, the sun is poisonous to them. If the inner earth is has hot as the sun, why is some places cold with ice. If you are serious about the spirit of the god you profess, make a video showing put your hand in a fire or holding a charcoal directly from fire, then I would believe you 1%.

God, who are the hosts then? tell please.

so u don't know the sun rays is poisonous in its pureness? The supernatural power of God has provided a covering and filter to protect us 4rm the ultra-violet rays. Can u take a trip to space without protective suit? There's no such thing as icy earth core. We only ve ice core in antarctica, greenland etc which actually talks about the centre of glacier. Yes inbreeding was encouraged by God for the population of the earth in early times. Adam married eve who actually came 4rm his own body. Angel Michael, Angel Raphael and Angel Gabriel are examples of heavenly hosts and they look like God.

Secondly, Cain married his blood sister and started corrupting his race with fallen angels.

gatiano:
There is nothing burning in the earth's core escept of magnetic field passing through from both south and north poles which is responsible for the earth rotation on its axis in relationship with the sun's magnetic field. The sun is about 93 million miles away, yet feel its heat. now the middle of the earth is just below 4000 miles, our feet are not burning yet, why?

I told you to show me a Blackman's sin that He did not copy, that He did all by himself.
You say it came from adam, who is adam? what race was he?
after cain murdered his brother Abel, we were made to understand that cain married into other people. Who are these people? did cain sleep with hie mother?

It iss written "let us make man in our own image" and not "let me make man in my image"

Ur scientists discovered that the earths core is as hot as the surface of the sun. The wonder of God should explain why the earth isn't burning our feet, the poisonous sun not corrupting our skin and the massive earth hanging and rotating on nothing. "Let us make man in our own image" God was talking to his heavenly hosts(his word, his spirit and his angels).

macof:
Are you really cool? You call yourself son of Abraham and live without the knowledge of your ancestors and you say you're cool. don't delude yourself like this

Just take a look at your op, you can't even get the origin of races from the list of hebrew ancestors. ..and you don't think why. .. where does black africans like yourself fit? How about the mongoloid Asians? Or Aryans?

Tell me ur own ancestors and stop blabbing about mine.

cloudgoddess:
No. Just, no. But the religious will always try & rewrite the bible to fit with what science discovers. It's the epitome of cognitive dissonance at work.

re-write the bible? Haba don't be unfair to christians. It is scientists that fit into what has always been in the bible.

Revelation15:
I think god created Adam a black dude and Eve a white girl or may be a chinese.

I don't think Adam is the real issue now but Noah.

gatiano:
Positive and negative is always contained in any given matter or object. Every atom has thede polarity. cold and hot are polarity of one entity only different in degrees; they are both degrees of temperature.

The Self created Black people made themselves up of Characters/Morality. This characters are of polarities. Good-Bad, Hardworking-laziness etc. The Black people ensured that the weak characters are locked in deep within their own temple(Body) as such they could not commit evil or sin; They were sinless.
They knew of evil but never commited them because it was impossible, It was impossible because of the good moral conduct and rituals taught from parent to child and from community to its people.
They knew of evil but have never experienced it. So they thought why not check it out, God is fearless afterall.
They decided to bring out that evil gene out of themselves through a very long process of devolving and denegrating themselves so that that evil recessive gene can come to the surface. Even at that, they couldn't do evil. So they brought out the evil recessive gene and turned it into people, the other races, till they reach the last possible most recessive which is blond haired abd blue eyed. They are wicked and evil. (to prove my point, Black people have both the dominant and the recessive gene, the black albinoes too. But other races only have the recessive genes, one just more closer to their Black parent that the other) Blacks can birth all races, other races can never bore a Black baby.

We learnt wickedness and evil from them, few amongst them have learnt righteousness from us. After we learn these wickedness and partake in it, we must be washed up, to cleanse ourselves of all the terror and evil we have experienced. The place to do that is what the modern people call hell. Even Jesus passed through hell before he could ascend into heaven.

And on the fact that we learnt evil from other races, show me one evil committed by a Black Person that it is not copied or a derivative.

wow what a detailed explanation. If I was not a christian and grounded in scriptures u would ve converted me. Blacks are not gods or capable of creating races. Their sin nature came 4rm adam(that's what Gods word says). Hell is a spiritual place of torment beneath the earths surface. Molten magma boiling at the earths core(barysphere) physically testifies of THE SPIRITUAL HELL.

gatiano:
You did not read it before you made your conclusion. There is no where it was stated that Blacks are condemned to hell. There is no hell physically, it is just a state of mind.

I read it and indeed there is no where it was stated that blacks are condemned to hell. I made that statement becos u isolated the blacks lineage 4rm Adam. Sin came by Adam. Are u telling me blacks are sinless since they aren't descendants of adam? There is a burning hell and if I were u, I won't think of going there to find out if its for real.

gatiano:
https://www.nairaland.com/2163386/african-blackroots-science-religion-science

If what u posted is true it means blacks are condemned to hell and Jesus didn't die 4 them. By the way am aware that our earth is very old which was inhabited by a species of pre-adamite race but am not comfortable with ur facts.

macof:
Keep letting "Abraham's descendants" deceive you that they are ur natural superiors. Is it not what they claim? Did they prove it? What civilization did they have? How did they show that all humans are beneath them by God?

U don't need to ask me that, I don't need u to leave one just to jump to another. . I'm saying you should inform urself about your own ancestors and what they believed

Don't worry about me am kul. I just told u who my ancestors are and I know what they believe.

eposho:
I think the world is a better place once we can accommodate oda pipps opinion, u say I need Jesus, fine by me .I am quite sure u will be highly offended if I say u need Allah/IFA/ Sri muja/. U c wat I mean.
Jesus doesn't exist so I wouldn't need him.
My tot.. I respect yours seriously, OK.

Tanks 4 ur contribution sir

eposho:
Sorry brov, I am not the seed of Abraham. From the fouth realm to the third, wondering when u r coming down to earth. This where we all live tho not the fifth realm.

when I created this thread I was expecting to reason with my fellow believers on the races of man and not debating with unbelievers and atheists full of hate and malice towards God. You need Jesus bro.

eposho:
Like the use of EVEN IF, that's admission of fact. at the end Jesus linking u to Abraham BY faith.
Guy u lost me by faith right there.

Faith functions 4rm the supernatural and spirit realm(fourth dimension) to the natural realm(3rd dimension)that's why ur feelings,mind or reasoning can not understand it. Gods word is bigger than ur mind so His word will remain foolishness to a carnal mind until such a mind is put into subjection by faith to allow the wisdom of God to be revealed. Through acceptance of Jesus into my heart I became THE SEED OF ABRAHAM

macof:
Africans taking Semetic mythology over their indigenous knowledge. So Adam and Eve that ur ancestors never heard of are the origin of humanity? I weep for you op

Abrahams descendants were chosen above every other races to relate with God and gain insights and inspirations about their ancestors(Adam and Eve and Noah) before the coming of Christ. Now we in Christ have knowledge about Adam and Noah. Even if we are not descendants of Abraham biologically, the death and ressurection of Jesus Christ made us sons of Abraham by faith. My dear Macof if ur ancestors don't know Adam and eve, tell me who ur ancestors know?

Secondly I couldn't find a verse of scripture that shows leprosy is a curse rather in Num12:9-12 when Aaron and Miriam murmured against Moses, Gods glory of protection departed 4rm Aaron and Miriam and Miriam became leprous. Sicknesses come as a result of germs and demons so I don't know why u try to twist scriptures.

cloudgoddess:
So please explain to me what the difference is between god creating light and god letting light be? what essentially would he be doing differently in either case? seems like you're just trying to derail the conversation with an irrelevant semantics argument.

i don't think you really said anything meaningful here.. my point still stands. stars are the SOURCE of light in the universe. until stars are created, there can be no light. light is a consequence of stars. so for someone to say they created light (or "let it be", verse 3), and THEN created stars after (verse 14), does not make any sense.

and giant lizards are not dinosaurs... dinosaurs are a separate species of reptile. as shown here, they have their own classification system separate from that of lizards:
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v450/NightimeShadow/Picture1-17.png

again i don't see what point you're making.. we have proof that leprosy is not caused by curses because we can examine the source of the bacterium, locate where the person contracted the bacterium, see the bacterium proliferating in a person's bodily tissues with microscopes. nothing supernatural about that. and why do i need to provide a verse talking about leprosy. curses when you already know the bible talks about leprosy curses?

To answer ur debate about the source of light in Genesis let's take a walk: Gen1:3 And God said "let there be light" and there was light. "Let there be in Hebrew lexicons means to appear or be made visible with already existed things. The sun was not created in day 1 of genesis rather God caused the Sun light to shine and heat up the earth and the face of the waters that were already frozen as a result of the Ice-Age. Verse 6 will give u a clearer picture that the heated waters formed vapours which God separated 4rm the waters below to form clouds. These was the second day. Day 4 shows God re-establishing the sun and other light-bearers to shine and penetrate the cloud formed in day 2 which was initially blocking the sunrays to do the work they used to do before lucifers fall. ALWAYS READ SCRIPTURES IN CONTEXT MA

ifenes:
Is that your reply despite the amount of mind shaking points I gave you? You see,its no use debating with a creationist.

Am not a creationist but a believer in Gods word. I don't know what other reply u were expecting. Maybe u should ask me one question at a time. Am typing 4rm a fone.

Lucifer who was in charge of the heavens of the earthly realm rebelled against God and was thrown down to earth. God blocked the sun and the stars 4rm shinning on the earth and sent a flood. The fall of lucifer and the flood wiped out the dinosaurs and the ape-like men 4rm the earth. Lack of sun rays on the earth ushered in the ICE-AGE. Due to millions of years of desolate earth, fossil fuels were being formed 4rm the remains of dead pre-historic plants, animals and ape-men. Others were preserved in solid ice. These are the events that occured b4 RE-CREATION OF THE EARTH IN GENESIS!

cloudgoddess:
the bible doesn't have any answers, and actually contradicts most of the answers humanity has discovered through science. the two are incompatible.

for example, the bible states the stars were created before light was. does not make any sense since the stars are the only source of light. bible says humans and animals have coexisted since the beginning. false again since modern humans did not evolve until 200,000 years ago, and all manner of species were thriving on earth far, far before then (like the dinosaurs, which we know did not coexist with humans). bible says leprosy is a curse cast on people, false again. leprosy is a disease contracted when a person comes in contact with the bacterial species Mycobacterium leprae.

believing in the bible will inevitably result in a complete lack of understanding of the natural world.

Hmmmmm godess can't u see u know nothing about scriptures. Let me educate u a little. Gen1:1 clearly shows the begining of Gods creation of Heaven and earth. This creation of Earth could be up to Billions of years ago but something happened to Earth in verse 2. What made the Earth to be formless? Now b4 Earth became formless God created some species of men(homo habilis, homo erectus, australopithecines)etc. These men were not created in the image and likeness of God. God also created the Dinosaurs to roam the earth but something happened...

cloudgoddess:
exactly.

christians are confused about these issues because the bible lacks real answers and only offers chidlike & misguided primitive explanations. here is a real answer for OP if you are indeed interested in reality (from University of California: Santa Barbara website, http://scienceline.ucsb.edu/getkey.php?key=1138):

"The human species is indeed very diverse, resulting from its global distribution. Before the mass global migrations of people during the last 500 years, populations were geographically separated and were reproductively isolated. For over 100,000 years this has caused different populations of humanity to evolve in different directions, developing distinctive genetic traits and characteristics. The common name used to refer to the genetically different populations of humans is "race although the term subspecies" is more accurate.

Genetic evidence from DNA obtained from fossils shows that the modern human species originated in sub-Saharan Africa, where it began diverging into different populations 180,000 years ago. By 100,000 years ago some of these populations had migrated out of sub-Saharan Africa and dispersed across Eurasia and North Africa. By 40,000 years ago the divergent evolutionary branching of the human species had produced five subspecies. The different races are often defined and named by skin color, but this system is based on only one genetic difference, when actually thousands are involved. In the more accurate system of racial classification, names assigned to the various races are based on geographical regions that are at center of their area of evolutionary development and origin.

1.The Congoid of southern Africa
2.The Capoid of sub-Saharan Africa
3. The Australoid of India, Southeast Asia, Indonesia, New Guinea and Australia
4. The Mongoloid of Northeast
5. The Caucasoid of Europe, North Africa and West Asia.

The diverse races of the human species all have their own geographical territory. Between most of these territories are clinal zones -- areas of contact between different racial territories. These areas of interracial contact create racially mixed populations."

the geographical location of dispersed humans which then evolved certain unique traits, explains why, for example, whites have such pale skin (the cold weather & lack of harsh sunlight in the northern hemisphere did not require large amounts of melanin), and why blacks have coarse hair (harsh sunlight near the equator made scalp protection from harsh rays a necessity for survival). also explains why many blacks still have high rates of lactose intolerance - ability to digest lactose after infancy was not originally innate to the human species. whites developed it from years and years of drinking cows milk into adulthood, while blacks only were introduced to such habits much later.

Thanks becos u just confirmed that Gen 10:25 is the exact period that races of the world were divided and God altered their bodies to adapt to their geographical locations. Science always agrees with the word of God but some lying scientists always try to resist.

ifenes:
You could give me the reply on here. The bible god was clearly not a spirit,do name examples of where it appeared to be a spirit in the bible? And there are no clue(I do not like to use the word "evidence)the bible gods created science. Science is a natural phenomenon. It's like saying someone created Love,Happiness etc

there are many spiritual realities that will elude u if u don't give ur heart to christ. Ur mind is limited to the natural world. John 4:24 and 2corinthians 3:17 clearly shows God is a spirit. My guy the natural was created by the supernatural or spiritual (romans 1:20).