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SirWere:
I honestly don't know anymore.

o boy u better get born again. Don't get left behind in these last days.

itstpia8:
in other words, you have no biblical backing for your claims.

haha u wanna provoke me to show u? Nah search d scriptures urself becos people interprete a verse of scripture differently(I don't want debate). Can u see the way I see Gods word?

itstpia8:
can we have references from the bible?

search for it sir(though am tempted to show u some). Read d scriptures 4rm Genesis to revelation slowly

SirWere:
Without one sliver of proof to support your hypothesis.

The ability of Sunday school teachers to brainwash kids is............amazing.

Easy bro ur second paragraph exposed u. Are u a christian or athiest?

Medicis:
A lot of people think they were naked in the garden. They were actually clothed with a covering of light and glory, such as the angels wear. While they lived in obedience to God, this circle of light enshrouded them. But when they sinned against God, they lost this covering of light and became totally unclad and hid themselve from God. Nice one op.

tnx bro. The devil has been lying to mankind 4 too long but we shall expose his sorry ass in these last days.

Blakjewelry:
Op you need more research

More research 4 u son. Some folks think Heaven will be boring. Do u know with our resurrected physical bodies we will be able to walk through physical walls? We will be able to move at lightening speed? We can eat physical food if we like and play with talking animals? NOTE THAT FAIRY TALES ON KIDDIES BOOKS IS ACTUALLY A CORRUPT IMMITATION OF HEAVENLY BLISS. n

I carried out a thorough study of Adam and the resurrected body of Jesus Christ and I came out with these findings: [sub][/sub]Adam had the ability to see angels and God clearly. Adam's body was covered with the glory of God(i.e he wasn't naked), Adam's body didn't need food or water to survive, Adams body could not sweat(the power of the sun could not afect him), Adam defeacating wasn't necessary, Adam's body could do tedious work all day without getting tired, Adam's body could not be burnt by fire or drowned by water, Adam's body couldn't receive pain, sickness or age, Adam had the ability to relate with wild and dangerous animals without them hurting him, In Eden there was no difference between day and night becos the place was always bright, the serpent once had four legs exactly like a cow before God cursed it.

WHERE DO THE DEMONS COME FROM?
This question is not answered anywhere in the Bible but the Book of Enoch does, even though Enoch is not scripture, but NT itself quotes Enoch(Jude1:14). What Enoch indicates is that the demons are the spirits of the nephilim released upon their death.

So where did these giants come from? The Bible does not directly tell us. One possibility is that the fallen angels repeated their sin to create more nephilim after the flood. This is possible because not all did this sin. Note in the passages of Jude and Peter above how the Bible says "those angels who sinned and those who kept not their first estate" this implies that not all the one third of the fallen angels who followed satan had sex with women(The Book of Enoch puts the number at only 200).

in fact, there are several races of giants listed in the OT after the flood :
1) Rephaim(Gen 14:5).
2) Anakim(Num 13:33).
3) Emim(Gen 14:5).
4) Zuzim(Gen 14:5).
5) Zamzummims(Deut2:20).
6) Zophims(Num 23:14)

By the way nephilims are not humans but humanoids so they are not entitled to salvation. This partly answers to what happens to a nephilim when it dies. Gen 6 shows how God destroyed the nephilims through the flood and saving only Noahs family. As for the wicked angels who parented them the Bible also describe their fate jude 1:6-8, 2pet2:4. The Bible shows in Gen 6:4 that there were still giants(nephilims) ater the flood. e.g Goliath and his four brothers(2sam 21:16-22 and 1chr 20:4-.

WHO ARE THE NEPHILIM?
The nephilim are one of the more mysterious and disturbing topics of the Bible, the word nephilim only appears twice in the Bible. Gen 6:1-4, Num13:32-33.
Nephilim literally means fallen ones. Early interpreters believed them them to be giants. The nephilims(giants) came as a result of angels mating with humans.

The mighty nephilim giants of Genesis are gone but Revelation describes their reappearance to play a major role in the end times. Despite this, few christians know anything about the nephilim. Many people view the Greek gods, titans, half-man half-animal and half-god half-man as myths but as a believer if you study your bible and other apocrypha books you would be forced to believe the Greek gods trully exists or existed. Understanding the nephilims will give a clearer understanding of the demonic locusts of revelation, antichrist/beast and false prophet and the abyss. It also may explain why there are persistent reports of UFOs and alien life in the world today.

Goodboiy:
That Historian that wrote that History need his head checked up.. I haven't heard of Such an Hilarious Word like the bolded

Evwreni and olomu clans are partly igbo. Do some research my goodboiy

MizJanet:
has anyone ever observe this crazy stuff regarding all this visions and hallucinations of hell .... They only claim to see popular people just to make publicity e.g saw an arch - bishop in hell , saw pope in hell , saw actress this and that in hell , saw Nigerian Actor this and that , saw a popular musician in Hell .


This kind of hallucinations quickly make news stories in the media since they involve popular people .

Have you also noticed ?

mama wouldn't it be wise to pretend hell is real? You ve nothing to loose in the after-life if u got there and saw dat hell is trully not real but YOU VE EVERYTHING TO LOOSE IF U DISCOVERED HELL IN THE AFTER-LIFE AND WEREN'T PREPARED! Are u born anew?

Phunmibi:
All you lots are talking about is a hall he built in AAU. its 1 billion we talking about here. OK it seems you don't get 1 billion equals to 1000 of a million naira. those rich guys don't need his donation. Well of course I understand he was only acting the script. "you give me a honorary I give you 1 billion".

I do understand that the government has a lot to do but we can't wait for the the government to do everything for us.

BTW, who told you the jerry curled man is a man of God? Misplaced definition I would say!

mama why are u frustrated on how d man of God spends his money? Or swallowing panadol on our "poverty stricken members"head? Are we complaining? Don't worry about us. I hope u are preparing to be raptured "madam genuine man of God detector"

Wouldn't it be wiser 2 prepare 4 a pre-trib rapture dan a post-trib rapture? Its only a fool dat chooses 2 go to hell to proove if hell is really eternal. Now in the rapture, the church departs d earth to meet christ in d clouds without a single battle(satan will be present on earth). In the second coming, Jesus returns with d church to battle d beast and false prophet (satan would be thrown into d bottomless pit so therefore he will be expelled 4rm earth) after d 1000 year reign of Christ, satan would be released and eventually defeated by God himself.

erico2k2:
You would care read about D.O Dafinone, then I'm sure you will swallow your own words.
Like I said, I don't care if my words are spelt wrongly,i dont need to proof read after all its Nairaland when its time 2 proof read i will.

this lady u ve been arguing with claimed to be itsekiri maybe dats why she doesn't know much on the stats of educated urhobos. In my own opinion urhobos are next to yorubas in terms of westernised education in Nigeria!

That guy had d opportunity of abdicating d throne in 2013 concerning the ogiame tittleship saga and practice his christianity as an ordinary man. I hope he made peace with God. Now concerning warri, the ijaws and urhobos would be watching 4rm d flanks for any wrong move 4rm d itsekiri.

Imortal001:
Wale, be very careful with obj oh

you must be an indomie generation to have said so. Go and read d history of wole soyinka and the millitary regime.

What many dullards on nairaland don't know is dat it takes very little effort to blow-up pipelines in the creeks to cripple nigerian economy. Guerilla warfare(hide and seek) is a very difficult war. SAY NO TO PIPELINE WAR!

Do not go to hell to find out if there's really fire everywhere!

The super-intelligence of the igbos concerning maths/physics/engineering raises my suspicion that they are blood descendants of israel.

PervyByNature:
Very soon he'll dissapear just like the others. Something tells me that the cure to this virus has long been found but some people are really doing their best to put a lid on it. There have been several claims to a cure but once you hear of them, they dissapear. Mr. Man u berra go into hiding oo. #Nuffsaid

you are right. There's a possible cure but evil globalist don't want it released. HIV is a biological weapon manufactured to put in check the growth of world population!

Haba is it not too early to start suspecting okowa? To me I think okowa even intends prospering the urhobos so that they won't fight him viciously like they did to uduaghan and to secure victory if there is a re-run election.

Igbo why na?

20pounds:
We shall soon find out that it was Tunde Idiagbon that was a no-nonsense disciplinarian and not Buhari.


We are watching and waiting.

that's right. Tunde was eliminated in prison by someone very powerful(probably ibb but not 100percent sure). Buhari is just a figure-head that's why the northern ruling cabals allowed him to win.

midolian:
The victory of the All Progressives Congress, APC, and its candidate, Muhammadu Buhari, in the March 28 presidential election may force some leaders of the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, into retirement from politics.

Goodluck Jonathan of the PDP became the first incumbent Nigerian president to lose re-election after he lost to Mr. Buhari on March 28. The latter was sworn in as president on May 29.

Some of the PDP leaders have given indications they would play very minimal role politically in Nigeria in the aftermath of the elections, while for others, the demystification of their relevance politically may influence their retirement.

Among those that could retire or lose political relevance are Tony Anenih, Ibrahim Babangida, and Edwin Clark.

Tony Anenih

Governor Adams Oshiomhole of Edo state was the first to declare that it was time to retire some “godfathers” in the PDP. According to the APC governor, recent elections have demystified the PDP leaders.
One of those Mr. Oshiomhole was referring to is the immediate past chairman of the Board of Trustees of the PDP, Tony Anenih.
It can be said that the governors’ prophecy has come to pass, because following Mr. Buhari’s victory, Mr. Anenih resigned as chairman of his party’s BoT.

Mr. Anenih’s foray into mainstream politics can be traced back to 1981, when as the chairman of the ruling National Party of Nigeria, NPN, in the old Bendel State, he saw to the victory of Samuel Ogbemudia as governor of the state. He was also the national chairman of the Social Democratic Party, SDP in 1992/93 when late Moshood Abiola was elected as President in the June 12, 1993 election.

In the PDP, the Esan chief was always in the thick of things whenever a need arose to “fix” an endemic problem and he has consistently delivered until recent times when he was apparently demystified, first by Mr. Oshiomhole in Edo State and finally by the 2015 general elections.

Since its defeat in the 2015 general elections, leaders of the PDP hardly mention Mr. Anenih’s name as they go about trying to rebuild their party ahead the next elections.

IBB

Another major casualty of Mr. Buhari’s victory is former Head of State, Ibrahim Babangida, often referred to as IBB. The gap-toothed retired General has been a member of the PDP since inception in 1998 and has tried to run for the office of President under the platform of the party on three different occasions – 2003, 2007 and 2011.
Although IBB has failed to get the ticket of the PDP each time he tried, he remained an influential member of the PDP and retained influence on persons elected on its platform.

From Mr. Obasanjo to late Umaru Yar’adua and then Mr. Jonathan, all presidents elected under the PDP found it easy to “work” with IBB because he presented himself as a party member without leaning to any known faction or group within the party.

When Mr. Obasanjo was in office, IBB never publicly criticized him even during the third-term debacle. He was also a confidant of President Goodluck Jonathan and sources at the State House say the President often “runs” to IBB whenever a matter was giving him “serious headache”.
IBB led the coup that ousted Mr. Buhari as president in 1985 and although both men seem to have resolved their differences, the former is not expected to wield any influence on Mr. Buhari’s presidency.

Edwin Clark

Another prominent member of the PDP who could retire from politics is a former Federal Commissioner of Information, Edwin Clark. Apart from the fact that age is not on the side of the Ijaw chief, who is over 80 years already, his fanatical support of the candidature of Mr. Jonathan means that for him it was all or nothing.

Tom Ikimi

Unless he decides to retrace his steps to the APC, a party he helped form, former National Chairman of the defunct National Republican Convention, NRC, Tom Ikimi, may have seen his best days in politics.
Mr. Ikimi was the chairman of the merger planning committee when the defunct Action Congress of
Nigeria, ACN, All Nigeria Peoples Party, ANPP, and the Congress for Progressive Change, CPC, decided to dissolve and form the APC. He even hosted most of the meetings of the group in his personal residence in Abuja.

However, he parted ways with the APC after failing to get the nod of the party to emerge as the national chairman. He subsequently rejoined the PDP, but has been quiet since then.

The outspoken former Minister of Foreign Affairs is not likely to be relevant politically unless he returns to the APC.

Tanko Yakassai

At a period most of the leaders of the north turned their back on ex-president Jonathan, the controversial Kano politician, Tanko Yakassai, chose to support his re-election bid.

To achieve his aim, Mr. Yakassai sought to break the ranks of the Northern Elders Forum, NEF, who had been acting as the platform to aggregate the position of northern elders on national issues, by forming the Northern Elders Council, NEC.

Mr. Yakassai has been in politics since the first republic as a member of the radical group, Northern Elements Progressive Union, NEPU. However, Mr. Buhari’s emergence coupled with Mr. Yakassai’s age could mean the latter could cease to be relevant politically.

Ibrahim Shekarau

The immediate past Minister of Education and former governor of Kano State successful broke the jinx of failure to win a second term in the state when he won re-election in 2007 under the ANPP.
Mr. Shekarau became governor in his fist attempt largely on the back of the popularity of Mr. Buhari who was the ANPP presidential candidate in 2003.

However, he fell out with Mr. Buhari and was one of the people who forced the president to leave the ANPP and form his own party, the CPC.

The former governor and Mr. Buhari again found themselves on the same side in the APC after he chaired ANPP’s merger committee and played a prominent role in the formation of the new party.
However, problems arose for Mr. Shekarau after Governor Rabiu Kwankwaso and four other governors dumped the PDP and joined the APC in 2013.

With Mr. Kwankwaso’s arrival to the APC and instantly becoming the leader of the party in Kano, Mr. Shekarau found it difficult to stay and moved in opposite direction to the PDP which saw him picking a ministerial slot from the state.

Apart from the PDP’s loss in the presidential election in the state, Mr. Shekarau’s preferred governorship candidate, Sagir Takai, lost his bid to be Kano governor in the last election. The swearing-in of Mr. Buhari on Friday may be the final nail to Mr. Shekarau’s political coffin, unless he chooses to return to the APC.

Bamanga Tukur

Bamanga Tukur is one of the founding members of the PDP and was elected its national chairman in 2012.
He was, however, forced to resign from office after he fell out with most of the PDP governors who found his style autocratic. His feud with the governors led to the departure of the famous five governors who eventually found themselves in the APC.

Political commentators often ascribe the defection of the five governors as one of the strongest reasons why PDP lost the 2015 election.
By the time the next election holds in 2019, Mr. Tukur would be 84 years old and opposition politics is expected to be the last thing occupying his time.

Alex Ekwueme

The former Vice President in the Second Republic is also one of the founders of the PDP.
Although often sidelined in the affairs of the party, its leaders at various times run to the octogenarian whenever they fail to overcome one crisis or another.

With the failure of the PDP in the last election, Mr. Ekwueme is effectively shut out of national politics and is expected to retire from active politics

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/184085-pdp-leaders-who-may-retire-from-politics-following-buharis-emergence.html

Mr op u are wrong concerning IBB. IBB and OBJ are the brain behind Buharis success. U don't know the man called Ibb. Ibb is one of the owners of Nigeria. He controls Nigeria behind the curtain, he is a spy fronting for the western countries and takes part in key decisions affecting Nigeria and international politics.

Abiola and Tinubu were drug barons. General Sani Abacha! ...a man who was misunderstood.