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EpicNigerian: Back in the day for uni,one of our fellowship leaders dey always talk say "You can't have the spirit of god inside of you and still be humble."

Till today I never still know wetin dat guy mean.

He meant u can't have Gods spirit and remain quiet about d gospel or ur christian walk with God. A christian ought to burn like fire u know?

Titilayodeji13: www.vanguardngr.com/2014/09/man-god-pastor-chris-oyakhilome/

By Femi Aribisala

If our marriage breaks down, we must not fool ourselves and others by insisting we are standing
in the righteousness of God

Christian pastors have become demigods. Their word is law; no questions asked. As Jesus said,
they teach as doctrines the commandments of men. (Matthew 15:9). They come up with all
kinds of self-serving principles that turn scripture on its head; just in order to justify themselves
before men and control their lives. I want to discuss Pastor Chris Oyakhilome.

Man of God
Pastor Chris is going through a rough patch at the moment. His wife, Pastor Anita, has filed for
divorce, accusing him of having inappropriate relationships with female church members, among
other things. Instead of waiting for his day in court, Pastor Chris has resorted to bogus
interpretations of the scriptures; even proclaiming he is a “man of God” and therefore above sin.

Pastor Chris declared to his congregation through a live telecast: “There are preachers and there
are men of God. I am not a preacher; I am a man of God, and I go in the way I’m asked to go.
You have to understand something about a man of God. A man of God is not just someone who
worships God or preaches God. A man of God is handpicked by God, set on course by God. If
you study the scriptures, you will not find one man of God go against God, sinning against God.”
What nonsense! Who made Pastor Chris a man of God? From which school of theology did he
get his sinless distinction? John says: “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and
the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to
cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and
his word is not in us.” (1 John 1:8-10).

David was a “man of God.” (2 Chronicles 8:14). Yet he committed adultery with Bathsheba.
Balaam was a “man of God;” yet he became apostate. The “man of God” who came from Judah
was killed by a lion because he sinned against God. (1 Kings 13:23-26).

But listen to what Pastor Chris says about himself: “We are not working in sin and living in sin
and hoping that we can mix sin and righteousness together. We are the manifestation of his
righteousness.” This is standing logic on its head. If our marriage breaks down, we must not
fool ourselves and others by insisting like Pastor Chris that we are standing in the righteousness
of God. There is no righteousness in divorce.

False Christ
In the bid to justify himself, Pastor Chris is fabricating similarities between Jesus Christ and
himself. He said: “Jesus Christ was accused by many – a lot of frivolous charges. There will
always be those who would like for it to be true. But you know, in spite of the accusations
against Jesus, it didn’t change who he was.”

However, Pastor Chris is not Jesus. Many accusations were indeed leveled against Jesus, but
they were not made by his wife and they did not include inappropriate relationships with the
opposite sex.

In short, Pastor Chris might be whoever he likes, but he is certainly not Jesus. Jesus says: “If I
bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.” (John 5:31).

Yes, there are “men of God” in the Old Testament. However, Jesus created no such distinction in
the New Testament; we are all “children of God.” Jesus says: “Unless you are converted and
become as little children, you will by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 18:3).
Indeed, Jesus was implacably opposed to men like Pastor Chris, who sit on pedestals and claim
to be holier-than-thou. He says:

“Their lives are perpetual fashion shows, embroidered prayer shawls one day and flowery prayers
the next. They love to sit at the head table at church dinners, basking in the prominent positions,
preening in the radiance of public flattery, receiving honorary degrees, and getting called ‘Doctor’
and ‘Reverend’. Don’t let people do that to you, put you on a pedestal like that. You all have a
single Teacher, and you are all classmates.” (Matthew 23:5-.

Male chauvinism
While Oyakhilome was busy elevating himself, he was also snidely putting down his wife. He
said: “If you are married to a man of God, it doesn’t make you automatically mature. You can
make mistakes; you can do something that is wrong. But some people expect the wife of a
minister to definitely be at the level of that minister.”

This is an arrogant statement. What makes Oyakhilome more spiritually mature than his wife?
By what measure and by what criteria did he come to ascribe this superiority to himself? Anita
Oyakhilome was also a minister. She was a so-called pastor of a London branch of Christ
Embassy. So why should Pastor Chris presume himself more “minister” than her.

If we are to accept Pastor Chris’ bogus self-appellation as a “man of God;” what disqualifies
Anita from also being called a “woman of God?” Are women inferior to men? Oyakhilome said:
“If a man of God is married, it doesn’t automatically mean that the wife of a man of God is
therefore a woman of God. That’s not the way it is in the Bible. That’s why you don’t really find
the wives of men of God mentioned in the Bible…. You never find their names.”

What poppycock! When one of the female pastors in his audience asked why the names of
wives of the men of God were not mentioned in the bible; Oyakhilome’s response was a classic.
He exclaimed: “Why? You ask God when you find him. Ask God when you find him!”

But it was not God who fabricated this theory that the wife of a man of God cannot also be a
woman of God simply because wives’ names are not mentioned in the bible. It was Chris
Oyakhilome. Therefore, it is up to Chris Oyakhilome to provide us with another bogus
explanation.

Pastor Chris ended his diatribe by saying: “When it comes to Reverend Anita, what I will say to
you is ‘pray for her.’” There is no doubt that, more than anybody else; it is Pastor Chris himself
that is greatly in need of prayer.

Its so funny when I see the femi aribasala's of nairaland getting angry with malice concerning Pastor Chris or CEC. We no send una, 2day our church attendance was full as usual. Keep bringing up more topics concerning Pastor. WE GO SEE WHO GO TIRE B4 DECEMBER!

bolaino: Greetings to my atheist brothers and sisters, Yes I am back, and I would love for us to discuss christianity, I want you to talk about the obvious faults in christianity, the christian practice of double standards, take the case of pastor chris oyakhilome divorcing his wife when clearly the bible does not support that, and also take the case of prophet TB joshua allowing workers to erect additional floors to a building (knowing fully well that the builders were not given permission to do so) that led to the death of over 80 persons, I would like us to scrutinize all the actions of christians in Nigeria, not forgetting our rapper pastor, pastor Ayo "bling" oritsejafor. His romance with corrupt politicians and other frivolous activities of his, let's dissect christian choices. I leave the floor open, logicboy01 I greet you. Good to have you back. And mind you, I am not an Atheist, I am just a confused spiritualist.

Who told u pastor chris divorced his wife? Ur brain must be filled with beniseed. Remember atheist are satanists or believers in God who consistently reject Him with malice. Quit bitterness!

BERNIMOORE: in just few weeks interval, some happenings revelations beyond normal comprehension were exposed, and the main characters just displayed a common character that leaves every good christian in awe!

Chris Oyakhilome alledgedly pronounced that he is a man of God, he boasts that being a wife of a man of God does not make 'Pastor Anita' a woman of God! he could not even in his oral defence in the church service he held in reaction to the divorce suit, he could NOT EVEN CALL HER 'MY WIFE' or even say pray for 'our marriage' but rather pray for Rev Anita, ...that attitude was shocking to most people, as pastor chris tries to make himself too important in this matter, this follows the submission Rev Anita made available to the court that they seem to be husband and wife but the truth is that 'nothing of such exist btw her and pastor chris for over 16 yrs' according to pastor Anita.


T.B joshua on his own part prediction and claims of performing miracles met a litmus test, when a guest building in his church alledgedly was previously 2 story building (with no evidence of additional structure approval collapse killing almost 80,and injured like 130 pple.

no other opportunity will make this man silence his critics than to 'even attempt to go to where the dead bodies are kept and at least 'try to do something' which if he can raise some of those certified death, and heal some of the wounded, all doubt will be cleared

but up till now pastor joshua 'did not even mention or admit of any death in his speach' but rather in his sunday sermon says 'im facing a hard time' even when no single member of his family was affected......he is just concerned about himself selfishly i think i may not be too correct

Ayo Oritsejafor on his own Alledgedly leased a 'church private jet' meant for evangelism only at least to reach far areas devoid of evangelism and to win soul for christ, but on a mission to south africa, it was nt to win soul for christ but to convey cash meant for black market purchase of aminition not meant for antelope or grasscutter but to kill fellow humans
even church members have always jump to defence of private jet by pastors, they tell you 'our God is a rich God' so why not?

when faced with the allegation Ayo orisejafor admitted, but start insulting and displaying manner that will make you start thinking why will he be CAN president in the first place

he justified himself so he is selfish


why i have to strike a parrallel with these MOGs there is that it contrast what old prophets like David did when confronted with his sin by Nathan, David tore his cloth in reaction and feel sobered and ask God for forgiveness

SO, can anyone notice these similarities, constructive comments are welcome

Envy na bastard. Control ur nerves son becos d Men of God are not aware u exist.

[quote author=OLAADEGBU][/quote]People like Olaadegbu would be quick to lick Pastor Chris shoes if he ever gets close to d Man of God but starts hating 4rm a distance. PASTOR CHRIS DIDN'T SEE OR READ UR POST SO U ARE KIND OF IRRELEVANT/NON-EXISTENT TO HIM!

atlwireles: Who are you? where do I know you from. Delta ko, delta ni. NL deltans are unknown to me. Carry your madness somewhere else

Of a truth u don't know me becos i hardly comment on issues. Concerning Delta, i usually see ur comments filled with hypocricy. You criticize Uduaghan when talking with ur kinsmen but quickly praise him when talking with a perceived outsider.

This funny merry go-round thread is still on? CEC haters don't u think its time we end dis thread? Joagbaje, mbaemeka and Gombs pls let's stop replying those knucke-heads

Olekumaster: I just dont want to be rich, i want to change lives for better. I want to live a life of meaning. So help me God

Don't be selfish bro becos u need to have enough money to make ur life meaningful and give ur neighbours life a meaning.

atlwireles: Bloody liar, your lies are dismissed.

Atlwireles stop embarassing me with ur silly comments as an advocate 4 Uduaghan. Uduaghan is a chronic failure and u know. Am a PDP fan just like you and u are not more Delta than us. REMEMBER OUR DELTA REMAINS A RURAL STATE IRRESPECTIVE OF THE HUGE REVENUE ALLOCATIONS!

stingbreed: The United Nations finally has some good news about the climate. Well, sort of.

According to a report released by U.N. scientists on Wednesday, the ozone layer, which has been thinning since the late 1970's, is showing signs of recovery.

Scientists say that the implementation of the U.N.'s 1987 Montreal Protocol has contributed to a statistically significant increase in the stratospheric ozone layer, the thin layer of gas that protects the earth from U.V. rays linked with skin cancer. Thanks to the reduction of chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) found in refrigerants and aerosol cans the ozone is predicted to return to 1980 levels by mid-century.

This will prevent 2 million additional cases of skin cancer a year starting in 2030.

U.N. Under-Secretary-General Achim Steiner heralded the monumental success.

The Montreal Protocol - one of the world's most successful environmental treaties - has protected the stratospheric ozone layer and avoided enhanced UV radiation reaching the earth's surface."
Chemist Mario Molina, one of the co-authors of a 1974 study predicting ozone depletion, echoed this sentiment in an interview with the Associated Press.

It's a victory for diplomacy and for science and for the fact that we were able to work together."
Okay, so it looks like a strong scientific consensus coupled with worldwide action can have an important effect on reducing negative effects on the planet, right?

Ironically, it turns out that the substances being used to replace ozone-harming CFCs are contributing to global warming, MIT scientist Susan Solomon told the AP. Greenhouse gases are repairing the ozone layer while simultaneously serving as one of the major causes of global climate change.

Fixing global climate problems is a two steps forward, one step back affair.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/ozone-layer-growing-back-172216682.html

I doubt if the ozone layer was ever destroyed b4 now. United Nations and scientists are known 4 lies and conspiracies.

daverebranded: not gonna say anything baud this man but when one CE guy told my junior sis that he can commit fornication with her and still make heaven coz he's a child of God mehn I can never go there to hear messages that will make me reason this way

Story up there could be fabricated by u. But just incase dat guy really said it, then he must be among the evil tares(the judas) planted amongst d good crops by satan(which some of u haters are guilty of) to try and twist Pastors messages and Gods word to commit sin. REMEMBER, WE DON'T MIX SIN AND RIGHTEOUSNESS TOGETHER!

kjhova: Hey Jared, no I am not waiting for god to fall on his knees as I am surprised that he/she has knees at all or actually possess the capacity to fall. Then the idea of him/her begging me to come back? That's just gross.

BTW tossing words like malice, hate, envy, lies etc at me without addressing my post just gives you away as a vain fellow with little human feeling. You should try having polio or any other debilitating illness & then only would you have an idea what my sis has had to endure in her life. Better for my family to reach closure than be led on a never ending search for miracles.

am not actually here to prove points or convince anyone to believe in pastor chris or God ...AM HERE TO LAUGH TO SCORN HATERS OF GOD AND PASTOR CHRIS WHO CAN'T SIMPLY MIND THEIR BUSINESS. U CAN'T STOP GODS WORK DON'T U UNDERSTAND??

Freksy: Your comment begs the following questions:

Which church?

Who is a preacher, one that lacks divine revelation?

If one is not a man of God, he is a man of who?

I was talking about d church of jesus. God gave divine revelations to prophets of old concerning the coming messiah and his glorious body-the church. A preacher doesn't receive such visions/revelations concerning the body of christ. I hope ur last question has been answered?

kjhova: I drove my younger sister to Healing School daily for 2 months back in 2001 when they were still at the old site in Oregun (just behind Alausa). She is wheelchair bound due to polio attack when she was just 3yrs old.

Yes we paid moneys regularly for one thing or another, yes they had many sermons & video watching sessions, yes there were selection dates, yes my sister was never selected once to meet the pastor, yes we watched many students (miracle seekers) come & go without healing, yes we saw a few who were "healed", yes these healed people were always the types that you really didn't consider as very ill in the 1st place, yes my family strongly believed in the pastor & the power of healing, yes we also left the healing school after 2 futile months of very costly commuting...YES my sis is still wheelchair bound but now a fairly successful make up artist after graduating from Oprah Benson School of Beauticology at Sabo, Lagos.


I found the ladies at the HS rather too young or appeared too loose to be able to handle something of such spiritual magnitude, or so I thought. I also felt the whole ordeal was unkind to both the ill & their family as the programe coordinators didn't seem to realise the material & physical costs of daily attendance without provision of lodging in a city like Lagos.

For full disclosure, I am a grown up atheist & have been so for a long time. But back then, I did retain the hope that CE Healing School would prove me wrong & that my folks would be right after all. Well, I wasn't proved wrong.

Mr Atheist I hope u aren't waiting 4 God to fall on his knees and beg u to come back to him? Ur malice and hate towards God and his servants won't change anything. Quit hate/malice/envy/lies!

kolinz: in the light of d foregoin, no one has been able to
sufficiently counter this op.

Until somebody does, there is no need cursing who is only trying
to relate his first hand experience.

Fyi, this op guy has done his assignment wel just incase u want to claim anything here and his offer is stil open

yea no one has been able to counter the OP according to ur view. Don't speak 4 all of us because we all have different views, afterall the saducees didn't view jesus as the messiah.

morbid: I haven't been this confused in my life.

don't be confused son. Let me simplify/add to what he said: a man of God is someone who receives divine revelation concerning d church.

mrceo63: God save ur children...
To all CEC members as far as u guys claim that self service isnt a sin....There is nothing in these world that will mk me blive... i v heard of deliverance done on pple who were possesed by d sprit of masturbation.. tell me if it werent a sin/demonic why dey d deliverance nd there as d person never did it again...@mbaemeka md Gombs

We don't need u to believe. Haven't u read in d scriptures dat people would still not believe in God after d rapture? Even after Jesus reign on earth for a thousand years, many people would still rebel against Him. THE PHARISEES CAN NEVER BE CONVINCED!

Macelliot: 1. Only in recent years has
science discovered thateverything we see iscomposed of invisible atoms. Here, Scripture tells us that the "things which are seen were not made of things which do
appear."
2. Medical science has only recently discovered that blood-clotting in a newborn reaches its peak on the eighth day, then drops. The Bible consistently says that a baby must be circumcised on the eighth day.

3. At a time when it was believed that the earth sat on a large animal or a giant (1500 B.C.), the Bible spoke of the earth’s free float in space: "HE hangs the earth upon
nothing" (Job 26:7).


4. The prophet Isaiah also tells us that the earth is round: "It is he that sits upon the circle of the earth" (Isaiah 40:22). This
is not a reference to a flat disk, as some skeptic maintain, but to a sphere.
Secular man discovered this 2,400 years later. At a time when science believed that the earth was flat, is was the Scriptures that inspired Christopher Columbus to sail around the world (see
Proverbs 3:6 footnote).


5. God told Job in 1500 B.C.: "Can you send lightnings, that they may go, and say to you, Here we are?" (Job 38:35). The
Bible here is making what appears to be a
scientifically ludicrous
statement—that light can be sent, and then
manifest itself in speech.
But did you know that
radio waves travel at the speed of light? This is why you can have instantaneous wireless communication with
someone on the other
side of the earth. Science didn’t discover this until
1864 when "British
scientist James Clerk
Maxwell suggested that electricity and light waves were two forms of the same thing" (Modern Century Illustrated
Encyclopedia).


6. Job 38:19 asks, "Where
is the way where light
dwells?" Modern man has only recently discovered that light
(electromagnetic
radiation) has a "way," traveling at 186,000 miles per second.


7. Science has discovered that stars emit radio waves, which are received
on earth as a high pitch.
God mentioned this in Job 38:7: "When the morning stars sang together..."


8. "Most cosmologists
(scientists who study the structures and evolution of the universe) agree
that the Genesis account of creation, in imagining an initial void, may be uncannily close to the
truth" (Time, Dec. 1976).


9. Solomon described a
"cycle" of air currents two thousand years before scientists "discovered" them. "The wind goes toward the south, and
turns about unto the
north; it whirls about
continually, and the wind returns again according to his
circuits" (Ecclesiastes 1:6).


10. Science expresses the
universe in five terms:
time, space, matter,
power, and motion.
Genesis 1:1,2 revealed
such truths to the
Hebrews in 1450 B.C.: " In the beginning [time] God
created [power] the
heaven [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And the Spirit of God moved [motion] upon the face of the waters." The first thing God tells man is that He controls of all aspects of the universe.


11. The great biological truth concerning the
importance of blood in our body’s mechanism
has been fully
comprehended only in
recent years. Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled," and many died because of the
practice. If you lose your blood, you lose your life.
Yet Leviticus 17:11,
written 3,000 years ago, declared that blood is the source of life: "For the life
of the flesh is in the
blood."


12. All things were made by Him (see John 1:3),
including dinosaurs. Why then did the dinosaur disappear? The answer may be in Job 40:15–24.
In this passage, God
speaks about a great
creature called "behemoth." Some
commentators think this was a hippopotamus.
However, the hippo’s tail isn’t like a large tree, but a small twig. Following are the characteristics of
this huge animal: It was the largest of all the creatures God made; was plant-eating (herbivorous); had its strength in its hips and a tail like a large tree. It had very strong bones, lived among the trees, drank massive amounts of water, and was not disturbed by a raging river. He appears impervious to attack because his nose could pierce through snares, but
Scripture says, "He that made him can make his sword to approach unto
him." In other words, God caused this, the largest of all the creatures He had
made, to become extinct.


14. Luke 17:34–36 says
the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ will occur
while some are asleep at night and others are working at daytime activities in the field. This
is a clear indication of arevolving earth, with day and night at the same time.
http://www.livingwaters.com/witnessingtool/scientificfactsintheBible.shtml

The correlation between science and religion is much more dan these. Kudos bro. There's no such thing as atheism. Atheist are simply confessed satanists or believers in God who have consistently rejected Him with malice. That's why dey always talk bitter about Him.

WinsomeX: I resist the temptation of trading words with you. But let me draw your attention to one minute detail here:



Compare with...



Final verdict from a Christ Embassy member:



We know where you learnt your trade from.

Did I not predict this?



They did not disappoint.

The rest of what you wrote is not worth a response.

And, em... I can predict the next yabis from your limited vocabulary. If its not inane... it will idiocy... or neophyte... or pseudo intellectual. You could even borrow some from your idol, Chris, crazy... silly ... stup-id...

So much for words of grace from supposed saints.

I dare you to say something different.



I am done with you on this thread.

Ur knowledge of scripture is poor. Why didn't u condem John the Baptist for calling the pharisees "Brood Of Vipers" or our Lord Jesus for calling king herod a Fox?

WinsomeX: Please do and he also should come and explain how homosexuals and sexual immorals are the ones that support his kind of Christianity. Is this not the moral bankruptcy we are talking about?

Next thing we will be hearing power, results. Power ko, powder ni.

don't be silly winsomeX the pharisee. The gospel and d church is to convert a sinner and not a holier than thou hypocrate like u. Do not dwell on d past deeds of yooguyz. Do u know if he has repented? Yooguyz my advice is dat u change ur nairaland monicker.

My concluding remark 4 dis post is dat pastorkun, and co demonic attacks on CEC has helped in even strengthening our unity just like Boko haram is giving Nigerians a sense of unity. END!

Gombs: http://nationaldailyng.com/editorial/guest-columnist/906-the-coat-of-many-colours

my brother last sunday we even had many first-timers at our branch. If people/media weren't persecuting pastor chris, his christianity would be questionable. When people fight a Man of God dat is busy minding his business. Its a sign of envy.

uzolexis: akagaba ...my heart bleeds for you,ur case is beyond repair,you have truly been brainwashed.

its only natural to criticize my pastor becos he's very important. Don't worry 4 her becos u shall also face d maker. A washed brain is far better dan a brain dat is very dirty.

remsonik: Pls before you start playing pastor chris advocate here, I wanna ask you a few questions.
Why do your pastor bleach and curls his hair??
Why don't they live together after 16 years of marriage and the church doesn't request that of him??
Don't you think if they have lived together she would ve understand his vision better and be able to carry forth the vision of the ministry??
Why didn't pastor chris address the issue rather he took time to throw jabs at his wife in this post??
He would ve kept quiet afterall the church is incorporated and its his personal business so he doesn't owe you guys an apology.
I only pity the followers,you guys have been molested,raped and wounded. A woman have needs and so a man but if you deny eachother of your needs when u are married then you are an infidel.

don't worry 4 us maam. Allow us do d crying or worrying.

akagaba: Isnt it funny how anything that concerns Pst Chris attracts so much interest, publicity, discussions and attention. This simply implies that there is something special and dignifying about ths man that the world cannot comprehend!! So people of d world are on d look out for any small or trivial thing to use against ths very prestigeous man!!! But i have ths to say to d world- the man called Pst chris Oyak is way way too great to be dissuaded by scandal, allegations, abuses, name callings and all sort of thrash! As a matter of fact, he is immuned to all these and times like ths strengthen and fortify him, it caterpaults and skyrockets him to a greater level!!! Great things happen in his ministry so my dear nairalanders, we in christ Embassy welcome times like ths with our hands widely open cus we know how to deal with it and turn it for our good!!!! Why not sit back, tighten ur seat belt and hear what ths very saga will generate to!!! dont forget we know who we are! We always win!!!!

we even recorded many first-timers at our local branch yesterday. The attack is a sign dat we are christians.

Caseless2: Na oyibo people you go warn. Wetin wan take me enta sea go swim? Wetin concern blackman with going to the sea to swim? Left to us all wild animals (both on land and sea) should be killed and none left to be filmed for animal documentary on NATGEO WILD.

poor mindset. Some of these animals contain chemical compounds dat can be used medically 4 humans. Change ur mindset.

owabor: Proudly Delta...Senator Okowa for Governor come 2015

fantastic dream. Mark my word becos he won't even get pdp ticket talk more of becoming governor.

Lagos as a place is more popular dan warri. Warri peeps are more popular 4 mouth matter but they are very bold and aggressive and not cowardly like lagosians.

alotofgrace: what's the need for all these sef? they are all vanity

anyway i did not see raski mono, baba frayo, daddy showky and pasu wonder and saidon P

guy u better reject poverty and start enjoying. Must u suffer lack b4 u reach heaven?

kayboy4y: Rubbish. People are suffering in their sorroundings they cant help them with token and they are buying fleet of expensive cars..... All I will say is..... Dias God ooo...

put away ur poverty mentality. Who told u they are not helping people? How many people ve u helped with d little u have?

IGNORANCE- including spiritual deficiency

All haters of Tb joshua keep hating until strange things start happening to u. Can't u leave men of God alone?