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Faslite:I think it's easier waiting for crosses and scoring against Ajax and Athletico Than Liverpool. . Everyone here supporting Ronaldo are all basically saying he's going to score against this or he'll score against that. At least, that confirms the fact he's only close or comparable to Messi when you talk about Scoring. He's not better oh, just comparable. Otherwise, he's pretty basic in other abilities some footballers are excellent at. Of course, in all the indices that constitutes attacking play, Messi is the best of his generation. |
naturalwaves:I cannot choose a match to make a point about Messi's ability. You've said Alot about Chelsea, Pique, Barcelona, tactical superiority, but still, no word about how Ronaldo is a better football player in comparison to Messi. None. Stick to the argument and tell us apart from scoring 40 goals in a season, what Ronaldo does differently from say Suarez or Aguero, or Lewandowski or Kane? What? |
chrisj2:Ronaldo rarely goes missing because what's expected of him is that he scores. what's expected of Messi is that he scores and also assist others to also score. And also assist others to assist someone else to score. I wonder how many MAN OF The MATCh awards Ronaldo has actually won without him scoring! probably fewer than his BALLON DO'RS I think. JUST. A. GOALSCORER. |
naturalwaves:Next time, try to dispute disputable points or milestones. In a paragraph where I used the first person pronoun "I" numerous times, I think it's folly to try and "see" what it was I actually saw. Maybe, for the sake of argument, you saw a not have a shot on target. But what I saw was a team of 11 players camped just outside their penalty box while instructing a full-back, a central midfielder, and a central back to prevent ONE PLAYER, a certain 20-21 years old, from playing his best game. I think, from where most people with fairness stand, fashioning a carefully and strictly followed gameplan by a team boasting the Lampards, and Ballacks, and Esseins, and Terrys, and the Drogbas, just to stifle the influence of ONE 20 year old, that has to count for something when we are talking about the best. Don't it? Perspective |
I've watched football long enough to know that someone is just trying to be diplomatic. There are many football notables who have waged in on the Messi, Ronaldo debate. If we make a list of them and create two columns one each for Ronaldo and Messi, I'm sure people who understand and truly follow football will know which columns will be filled pretty quickly, and with the most notable and respected personalities of the game (I see you Le professor) ![]() I raved about Ronaldo to my brothers earlier on around 07, 08, 09 as both a Barca fans. ( I gat take some shots ) Mind no, I was no Man Utd fan. They keep saying: you never watch Messi! I have watched Messi, but I just didn't understand what they were trying to let me see. But my eyes became clear 09. As a Chelsea fan, I really got to see Messi for what he truly was when Barca played Chelsea 2009(fvck ovrebo sha For the next few years, Messi became better at all what I saw in that game. Ronaldo all but became a GOAL MACHINE. The Messi - Ronaldo story is parallel now because of their identical achievements. However, if you're more concerned about the Football that this two play, they're both very different players. In my personal opinion, they're so different that it's actually unbelievable people still think it's fair comparing their true footballing ability. What do I mean? [b] In football, there are roles. Players (attacking) are actually defined by their ability to perform these roles like goalscoring, playmaking, creating, dribbling, awareness, vision and so on. There are many great attackers in the game presently and in history. But you normally find them having good ability of most of the above roles while being excellent in one or at most two of the above-mentioned roles. Ronaldo is, undoubtedly one of the greatest goalscorers of all time. And as said earlier, he has good grasps of most of the roles involved in attacking play. But that's it. As expected, and following trends already established by players past and present, you can be the best in everything. Or, can you? Yes. You. Can. If. You're. MESSI. In this generation, Messi is the best passer of the ball, the best creator, the best playmaker, the best dribbler, has the awareness, has the best vision, the best and most insane technique, and of course, still the best goalscorer of this Generation (games to goal ratio a truer stats here) I hope you can now see why I find it hard to understand the comparisons between this two totally different football players in many ramifications. [/b] |
Benekruku:Even Pogba won't click in Manchester United. Such crap of a club with crappy players. Nobody with a brain would go to Manchester United with Jones and smalling and Young and lingard the most experienced players there. |
Guapismo:This statement removed from this forum for it's criminal! David Luiz is poor man's defender. We don't need a central back who creates assists. Lawd. We need a central back who is first and foremost, a defender. Luiz is a scam. Sarri's biggest problem is that he has not realized how unreliable Luiz is as a defender. The only reason we played 120 minutes with Frankfort was because of his PlayStation defending. If not for our ban, why the fork we are not going for de ligt? Or Koulibaly? The jury is still out on Rudiger but I think he's far better than Luiz. Get a decent partner for that guy and let's stop conceding goals from the very first attack we face during matches we dominate for long periods. And bros, Luiz is not nearly as import as Cesar azpilicueta talk less of Kante, then Hazard. Why mention them in same sentence talking about importance? |
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The level of Mancity in the EPL is definitely rubbing off on others in Europe, especially Liverpool. Mancity has so raised the Bar that teams like Liverpool are too much for other clubs when they'll meet in Europe. I think with Ronaldo leaving Madrid and Barcelona looking average without Messi's extra terrestrial efforts, La liga would find it more difficult having teams in the finals unlike past years. I'm expecting a more even playing field going forward or EPL slightly dominating with Man City and Liverpool for the time been. I know Man City haven't had the expected success in the CL. But if you watch Alot of football, you'll see that at their best, their level is above everyone else. The strength of the first eleven and the bench is unmatched anywhere in the world. They will eventually win it with Pep. Guadiola just have to let them attack teams away from home and not try to change his tried and tested philosophy because of the opposition. Or perhaps, he's just gat to pray to avoid EPL teams since over familiarity they work against them. |
I predicted an all English Final after the quarter final draws were made with Man City and Liverpool since they were both separated from each other until the final. As it happened, Spurs knocked them out. But after seeing Ajax removed juventus, I still maintained that Spurs instead would take the place of Man City. Before the Semis, I could bet that Liverpool are better than Barca definitely. And a complete Spurs side is actually better than this Ajax, no matter how beautiful they look when you watch them. Obviously, the Liverpool lost the first leg harshly. Their performance did not deserved a 3-0 loss. They didn't deserve to lose infact. Spurs also lost 1 nil at home to compound matters. Honestly, I didn't think Liverpool would turn their tie around and qualify. When realize Salah and firmino ain't playing, only a miracle can see them through. Alais! Miracle indeed it was. ![]() But I really believed Spurs would turn theirs around. With sissoko and Son playing from the start. After going two down, I knew it's going to be difficult but I still had a nagging feeling they would at least make the tie closer by scoring a goal or two. The rest is history as they say. My prediction finally came to pass: Liverpool Vs Tottenham Hotspur (Wanda metropolitano This is one of the best Champions League season in a long time. |
athaboi:I hate it when a football team losses and people resort to the experience cliche. They are out simple. The captain is 19 years doesn't negate the fact he's one of the top performing defenders in the world. Mbappe is a youngster but still one of the best players in the world. Experience is overrated. Ask Madrid and juventus. |
iamezekwesiri:You'll start hearing nonsensical rumblings. "Never build your team around one person" if you hear this, you'll think teams that have built around many persons has been winning the CL for the past 7-8 in succession. People would kill to have what Barca have been enjoying by building the team around Messi. They have won the most trophies in the past decade! What lessons are you sharing again? You're effectively saying: Barça, don't make it obvious Messi is the best player in the team. Nonsense. Messi makes Barca play better. It's not as if Barca is filled with average players. Busquet is the best DM in the world. Alba one of the best Left backs. Stergen one of the Best goalkeepers. Pique one of the best CB. So, how do they build around everyone? By selling messi to Liverpool? Messi is the greatest of all time and would turn any team he's in into a one man team. From a Chelsea fan who supported Liverpool last night. |
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sexiestharam:You're absolutely right. I'm a Chelsea fan but I know arsenal would be difficult for us to play because of over familiarity. I'd prefer Valencia. I think Ajax would be a better opponent for Liverpool. They are not in the same level with Barça and they play similar style but Liverpool's intensity is unbearable for most teams. But Spurs, they are very unpredictable and the coach changes formation and tactics very often. If Spurs where complete with Kane and all, Ajax would have been clear underdogs. The best teams don't always win the CL because it's a sprint. If it where to be a marathon, in my opinion, Man city should be playing the final already because they are the best football team at the moment. |
drmikeadams:Bros it will take monumental luck for Ajax to beat Liverpool. At the best, Ajax is Barcelona without Messi. |
drmikeadams:Because spurs were missing multiple players and still missing them, you think they are better than spur and have already qualified? I think Liverpool will even prefer to face Ajax. Spurs fit do over familiarity with Liverpool just as they did with Man city. If Ajax meet Liverpool with Salah and Firmino in the side, it will be the most one sided final in a long time you'll see. Ajax won't be able to cope with Liverpools intensity for 90 minutes. |
projet:They can. Trust me I'm no Barça fan but they can. With Messi, they'll always be in contention. |
dochenaj:Congratulations my brother. I'm not a Liverpool fan but I know a proper team when I see one. It's just a shame that this team is coming up against Man city in the EPL. You guys deserve something after the last 18 months you've had. |
Harjibode:Don't mind him. The hash one-sided scoreline blinded the fact that without Messi, Barça won't have a chance against Liverpool. For them to have lost after Firmino missed both games and salah this one shows how strong Liverpool are as a team. Such a shame they're coming up against a monster in the EPL in the form of Man City. |
I predicted an all English Final after mancity and Liverpool were separated. People slated me. Man city went out against Tottenham but they still remain an English team. Maybe Barça deserved to win the first leg at camp nou but NOT BY 3 GOALS. Haba! Luck was on their side while Liverpool had none. It was hard to believe a comeback will happen but you never say never. Especially where Liverpool and Champions League are concerned. Barca fans should admit it. Liverpool were the better team across two legs. I don't think Barça are a better football team right now compared to Liverpool. Across the two legs, MESSI WAS BARCA AND BARCA WAS MESSI. in essence, they are average without Messi. But Liverpool played without the irrepressible firmino in both legs and salah in this one. Barca won't score a goal without Messi and Jordi Alba. If Tottenham qualifies tomorrow, I would have wanted them to win the final. But after seen this night, after bearing witness to the Legend of Anfield, it's impossible not to want Liverpool to win as a neutral. You'll never walk alone YNWA Welcome to the drama of the Champions League. |
And you tell me the BLACK MAN is like every other Man? When I read news like this, I'm totally disheartened. I wish I was the president today or police IGP, I would have hunted the perpetrators of this barbaric act to the ends of the earth. It will never stop unless a publicised man hunt is made for people like this. Jail those beast for life and make them work in farms till they die. Sh!t hole is better than a majority of people living in this country. |
Personally, I don't think unfaithfulness is the gravest unforgivable thing a partner or wife can do to me. There are a few other things I dread of marriage than a cheating partner. The deed has been done. Looking forward, you don't EVEN KNOW what it is that you want. That's the real problem I see. You still want your BLOW buddy! And you still want your husband and marriage! But I don't think you can have them both. At least, it's not fair on your husband to keeping banging another guy while you're still married to him without his knowledge. So, Marbella003. What do you want? Blissful Sex with this guy who may or may not have all the GOOD QUALITIES you've mentioned above OR A blissful marriage with husband and all the goods that come with him, bar the bedroom prowess? Besides, have you ever come to think of the possibility that you have not been satisfying your husband sexually too? How are you sure you yourself is good in bed? Who knows? He might be complaining about your lack of sexual adventure to some of his buddies. Saying his wife seem too dignified and holy and educated to try CRAZY THINGZ with. As for his physical traits, you have no complaints there as you saw him with your two eyes before marrying him. He didn't create himself. I'm sure he didn't look like Christiano Ronaldo before you married him, why do you now expect him to start looking like Anthony Joshua? I just hope you've maintained your original body shape from the first day you met him to this day otherwise we may as well add hypocrisy to your list of shortcomings. Apparently, sexual fulfilment is an important component of marriage where you stand and I have no problem with that. It sucks you believe your husband can't guarantee that you. I'll only encourage you to list out other good things you have with him. If you think ALL those good things are BASIC and every Tom, Dick and Harry can give them to you? Then it's settled. You have GOTTEN YOUR PRIORITIES STRAIGHT. What's remaining is just the small matter of following the direction that leads you to them ( your priorities). Las Las, if not for the sake of the kids in a marriage, I don't have no problem with divorce. Heck, I intend to use it if I have to when I'm married. However, if you have any, don't forget to take their welfare and happiness into consideration too. I'm sure they trust mommy too do right by them, Do right by daddy, and THEN do right by herself. Good luck! |
Nigerians are something sha. Personally, I don't know if I'll encourage a marriage with such massive age difference but seeing every Tom, Dick and Harry take advantage of the situation to start labelling her mother a failure is sickening. All those self-appointed advisors looks bitter and pained to me. They are actually taking it personal like they are the ones going into the marriage. As long as she was not forced into it, it was her decision, and no law was broken, e no concern anybody again! |
tourplanet84:Firstly, don't assume anybody will take your e-collated figures as fact. I can only believe any electronic register if it came from INEC, or an independent audit firm. Secondly, I think you're the one trying to skew reality. People who actually went out to vote didn't testify to a situation where the turnout was MASSIVE. I listened to TV analyst on political programs and read newspapers, even feelers from people here you went out to vote. They all came with one feedback: LOW TURNOUTS. The last minute postponing didn't help matters. If people who went around during the election and took notice categorically said the turnout was unimpressive, how do you want me to reasonably believe that BOTH PDP and APC where systematically shortchanged with close to 7 million votes? Going by your initial analysis? Thirdly, it is mostly Borno, Yobe, and Adamawa that's under serious threat of insurgency. Not the NORTHEAST as a region. Historical, the North has always recorded significant voter turnout because they view their PVCs for what it is: Voting. And they realize that what actually counts is by talking with it on election day and not all over the internet before, during, and after the elections like the average southerner. |
tourplanet84:Now, this is funny In essence, after you've applied all the Data analytic techniques you could, you have concluded that the figures from INEC couldn't have been true because there was unreasonable turnouts of voters in the insecure Northeast while the supposedly safer ( I dey laff. It's clear that the amount of violence recorded in the last elections in the south south alone was more than double the amount in the entire North ) South recorded low turnout. Well, since you're a self-professed statistician, I'm not going to argue with your 3 million votes and 2 millions votes for Atiku. Or the Zero million votes for Buhari. I'm definitely not going to engage you in Server THIS. Server That. ( even though from where I stand, if some online rogues hack into my databases, we really should be talking about catching them criminals )However, since your arguments is largely based on voters turnout, lemme ask: is that peculiar to this election or just conforming to trends establish from previous elections? I'm sorry your Statistics, Elementary Algebra, Ratios, Percentages and Proportions expertise won't help you here. I suggest you add some HISTORY to your repertoire too. There is no manipulating HISTORY BECAUSE IT HAPPENS BEFORE OUR VERY OWN EYES. Southerners don't and didn't vote. Simple! |
Drsavage:Two seasons ago you said. What about now? Sevilla will probably not play Liverpool for a long time since they won't be coming up against each other in the Europa league anytime soon. Lets see how Barça fare instead. That will be more even don't you think? |
I know this will turn into a Laliga Vs EPL fracas. ![]() It's clear that Laliga has been dominant these decade. But football will always be a circle. As long as money is in the EPL, their teams will remain competitive. I think much of Laliga CL dominance has been because of Ronaldo and Messi. They both gave Madrid and Barcelona enormous advantage over other teams when push comes to shove. But Ronaldo is gone now. Messi will too soon. As for Europa league, if the smaller teams like, Watford, Leicester, West Ham take it seriously, they will be battling relegation as a result. But I think EPL will dominate the Europa league henceforth because their are only 4 spots for the Big Six. The two who misses out( I see you Man Utd and Arsenal ) this season will definitely take the seriously next season. Arsenal and Chelsea barely played their full strength team this season but are already in the semi final. Hazard has started only two games in the Europa league this season to be precise. We all know both of them will be in the final. |
freemanbubble:Of course it's overrated. That's why Liverpool has never won it for close to 30 years ![]() |
searchlight:That reply was constructed that way because he played the ethnic and religious card. In my opinion, that's an apt reply for that. As for your List, since you came up with it, you tell me your theory of why you think they are free men and women. Which card do you want to play? |
Make I no lie, I dey fear Emery and Arsenal for final oh. |
Ugosample:That's just the only thing Buhari needs to realize. There is nothing else for him to lose |
Ugosample:Good to know you actually DGAF. We are a long way from what obtains in other country. These countries are at a stage where they are actually flying while we are just about learning how to crawl. If you study the history of some of these countries who remarkably change their story from rag to riches, you would find out the leaders who were at the heart of such changes did SOMETHINGS that will look extreme or unacceptable today. (I'm not suggesting underhand tactics) I can imagine 80% of top government officials are corrupt. It will be unthinkable to believe half of them will become honest without no external influence. Our best bet will be to have THAT ONE LEADER (preferably a president) who will pull majority of our public officials, willingly or otherwise, into a zone of honest. If you prefer to discard any slight progress we make because it won't pass the MORAL TEST, then we won't make any progress whatsoever. We know there is some cherry picking going on. But we don't ask them to stop. Never. Instead, after every cherry they collect, we should request they extend their scope to even more and bigger ones. Naija is ours to collectively build. Thanks. |
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