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dazzlingd:
how ve I attempted to run down the kingdom?

Look at this scenario:

Paul says, if meat is offered to you that has been given offered to idols in the presence of a weak Christian, do not eat.

Why?

Because that weak Christians faith could be hampered and him not having sufficient knowledge might think its okay to offer things to Idols.

Does eating meat offered to idols have any effect?
No, Paul says. For Idols are nothing but for the sake of a baby Christian he would rather not eat it.

Now, there could be atheists here who could just be on the verge of believing. But comments as such could hamper them from entering in.

Because then again, You carry that person back to the realm of logic. And many Christians do foolish things like that on NL.

For we walk by faith not by sight.

Even though I am not a Catholic,

I think his message was misunderstood. He was encouraging unity and fellowship with the brethren. And he discouraged the notion that one can do without the fellowship and communion of the assembly.

Even the bible speaks on the issue of not forsaking the assembly of beleivers.

I stand for the truth always even though I don't agree with most of their practice's.

sochima1989:
Because Na gnld

dazzlingd:
I have nothing more to say....I can see your heart despise knowledge.

btw, I'm a believer.....

A believer that doesn't take into cognisance how the atheists will react to his comment.

Instead of promoting the kingdom you try to run it down.

BTW, I am scientist.

HOLYSEE:
i love jesus but not his followers because the only christian i know died on the cross 2015 years ago...christian of this generation are so myopic and biblically manipulative...what if you were in the church you now criticize or you were born into it...what do you think your view will be...let he who think his church will aid him rapture be the first to cast the stone

Hmmm. I have to agree with you my friend.

Like I told some from your camp. They beleive what they do because of how they grew up.

We must be willing to accept change my friend. But most are afraid.

So even when the truth comes, they show forth a cold and stony heart.

I once beleived in some wrong doctrines, but my Lord and Saviour by His Holy Spirit showed me the light. For He is the Spirit of Truth.

Embrace the Spirit of God all ye saints and be free from destructive doctrines.

HOLYSEE:
i love your response, you have a pure heart. jerome and his likes are so scared of asking not knowing that GOD made us like that so that we can ask to know what we know and what we should know...

So you join an unbeliever just to spite me.

Do not be insecure but knowledgeable.

dazzlingd:
every blood line has a beginning, whites giving birth to blacks and vice versa can be traced to their ancestors who have had their blood line interfered with by the other race.....

but I'm asking of the origin of these bloodlines.....

you perhaps are the one that needs enlightenment for you have condemned ursef not to seek knowledge and rather too lazy or too scared to ask questions and seek for answers.

when you don't have answers u immediately call it religion, and that which u can explain, u call it science

Ah! But such knowledge is lofty for thy petite mind.

For reasons such as this do many forsake their own mercy. The great King offers you wisdom. For the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Embrace wisdom, for she crieth out to you in a loud voice.

Repent! For judgement is coming to this perverse world.

Beware of religion but seek the great King.

Aizenosa:
Abeg abeg abeg pls park one side u protestants should go and get roots and stop being like chaff in the wind, 1st the bible is a guide and doesn't know everything, secondly it states so and 3rdly what makes you to cast judgment when u not God,
Hope you know dat ur kinds are like d Israelites of old always wanting a sign of miracle be careful cuz d bible itself has predicted dat signs and wonders lucifer will perform and people will be wowed.
The Catholic church is going to stand and when ever it turns from God, God in His mercies will see us back but as for this issues u protestants have to claim, u read bible literally and beat your chests saying you know all, now let me tell you d bible itself is a source of light and also a source of destruction, always read with wisdom and the guild of the Holy Spirit so dat u will not be led astray else u twist it and end up asking for destruction.

Shalom

First error: The bible does not know everything. I.e The bible is not enough for our salvation, bitt whatever the council adds to the bible is also accepted.

That is to say you agree most of what you practice is not in the scriptures. GOOD!

Second error: You talk of signs and wonders.

But yet you guys are quick to use a false apparition of Mary to validate your beliefs. So is the devil deceiving with the signs?.

Thirdly: I have not seen any one anywhere that has been told by God's Spirit to build statues and use a rosary.

Repent and be born again! And you shall receive God's Spirit. For then can the scriptures be unveiled to you.

CaptainJune and misreal.. Come read this guy post abeg.

dazzlingd:
why can't you make your points without threats of damnation and catastrophe. I never threatened you in anyway.

anyway, if adam and eve were white, itz understandable why Jesus a descendant is depicted as white in your pix. But my question remained unsawered, then why are u black, where did u blacks come from? Your ancestors were never white, were they?

why is it that adam and eve aren't black in your pictorial depictions?

And that is what they are, just pictorial depictions.

Adam Could have been white and Eve black for all we know. Or the reverse.

Its also possible they were whites but somewhere along the lineage, black children could have been born. "For with God, nothing is impossible."

There are cases of whites giving birth to blacks or even blacks giving birth to whites.

Be enlightened.

HOLYSEE:
my friend you sound like the pharisees of old so its the catholic church that always manipulate the scripture abi, just because i gave you biblical backings did you even read the scriptures i gave or you just jump to conclusion as far its catholic its of the devil...your self righteousness is too much are you God to know the true church...you call people to repentance ignorantly without wisdom you say catholic don't have bible backing to their doctrine and now its given yet you reject same bible you tend to uphold..be wise and not end up like the pharisees

Ah! But the Pharisees are the one who make up man made doctrines and practice's.

But as I said previously, the scriptures you quoted are nothing new to me, for I have encountered such doctrines.

But open your eyes like many of us have and repent! Stick to the Word alone and not the ways of men.

My signature says a lot about me.

Jozzy4:
NOTE:
" when the dead rise"
@ underlined reveal that Jesus is talking about the ressurection, has it occured ? You are like those " who have deviated from the truth , they say that the ressurection has already occured , and undermine the faith of some " - 2 Tim 2:18

Read that In context sire.

The resurrection it talks of is the great day of the Lord.

Speaking to folks that their loved ones who have died is either sleeping in their graves or In heaven presently, does not In anyway undermine anyone's faith.

The doctrine of error passed at that time was that Jesus had come and taken some people with Him.

Cerebrum:
How would you embrace what you haven't heard? How would you hear when there's no teacher?

I address this writing to the ekklesia of God in Corinth. You have been restored to the harmony of your original design, made holy in Christ Jesus; no wonder then that you are surnamed Saints. You are in association with all those who have discovered their true identity in Jesus Christ everywhere in every location; he is the head of this union; his name relates us to one another in a global family. - 1 Cor 1:2.

Who is not a saint?

What point do you drive at Sire?

HOLYSEE:
CATHOLIC DOCTRINES ARE IN THE BIBLE
Catholics are always intimidated into believing
that they do things contrary to the Bible just
because they are ignorant of what they do, the
following will help you locate WHERE what they
do in the Bible
1) PRAYING FOR THE DEAD
2 Mac. 12:38-45
Wisdom 3:1
Tobit 4:17
2) USE OF IMAGES AND SACRAMENTS
(these reminds us of what they stand for)
2 kings 3:20-21
Num. 21:8-9
Ex 25:17-22
Col 1:20, 2:14
John 12:32
Acts 19:11-12
3) AUTHENTICITY OF CATHOLIC TRADITION
AS A SOURCE OF REVEALED TRUTH
2 Thes 2:15
2 cor 10:10-11
John 21:25
2 John 1:12
3 John 1:13
4) THE SHIFT OF SUNDAY INSTEAD OF
SATURDAY ( SABBATH)
Rev 1:10
Acts 20:7
1 cor 16:1-2
John 20:1-22
5) THE POPE'S AUTHORITY AS THE
SUCCESSOR OF ST. PETER
John 21:15-17
Matt 16: 18-19
Acts 2:1-14
6) THE REFERENCE OF CATHOLIC PRIESTS AS
'FATHER' WHEN THERE IS ONLY ONE FATHER
IN HEAVEN
Gen 17:4
Jer 7:7
Num 12:14
Jn. 6:49
Mtt. 23:30
Lk. 1:73
7) IS THE BIBLE IN SUPPORT OF THE
HIERARCHY IN THE CHURCH? YES
Eph 4:11-13
1 Tim 5:17-25
1 Tim 3:1-7, 8-13
IS PURGATORY REAL ? YES!. WHAT DOES
THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT IT?
Is 35:8, 52:1
Zech 13:1-2
1 cor 3:15
Lk. 12:47-48, 58-59
Rev. 21:27
Heb 12:22-23
Job 14:13-17
9)ABOUT INCENSE
Ex 30:33-37
Num 16:6-7
Lev. 16:12-13
Lk.1:10
Rev. 8:32
10) THE ROSARY IS A PRAYER IN HONOR OF
THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY
Lk. 1:28,
Lk. 1:42
11) IS HOLY WATER THE WILL OF GOD TO BE
USED?
2 kings 2:19-22
John 5:1-18
John 7:37
12)WHY DO WE ASK THE SAINTS TO PRAY
FOR US?
Prov. 15:8, 15:29
Job 42:8
James 5:16
Mtt 16:19
13) WHY DO WE USE MEDALS, CRUCIFIXES
AND SCAPULARS AND BONE OF SAINTS?
( these help to remind us of what they stand
for)
2 kings 13:20-21
14) WHY MUST WE CONFESS OUR SINS TO
ANYBODY OTHER THAN GOD. Mtt 16:19, 1-20
15) IS INFANT BAPTISM IN THE BIBLE?
Acts 16:15 33
Acts 18:8
Mtt 28:19
Acts 10:47-48
Carefully read all these scriptures and analyse base on what you have read and not what you think.......All written word in the bible are inspired so don't tell me one is superior to another or one is old and another is new else it should be blotted out of the scripture..... Heaven earth will pass but my word still remain the same........ I am not bias but speak the truth scripturally so analyse base on scripture and not what your pastor said.

I am not ignorant of such scriptures used to promote your dogmas.

The issue is how the scriptures have been twisted to suit your claims. For they they take the scriptures that have been twisted from generations and present it as truth.

Repent! Therefore the Lord says. For He is coming back for a church established on His righteousness alone and not the righteousness of men.

Come! Lord Jesus. Come.

Jozzy4:
She is right about one thing , a dead man is a " DEAD soul" Numbers 6:6

I know where you stand Sire.

But to debate over such matters is a luxury I do not have.

I leave thee with a scripture for consideration.

Mark 12
24Jesus replied, “Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’d ? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

Cerebrum:
You seem very sounded in the truth that you know. Impressive. However, I think if we recognize "King Jesus" beyond the name to discover the rich life that E is, we would concluded that all have him and can easily reach him by looking within.

Quoting the revelation of John too is a bold step, there's a lot of symbols and meanings beyond the words used, you know that, yeah?

All could have Him, but not all have embraced Him.

The book of revelation is the book of mysteries. However, those mysteries are reserved for the saints only. Some parts of those mysteries would be unfolded by the Lord when the time comes through the right vessels.

For nothing is hidden that will not be made known.

Jozzy4:
Thats why a corpse is called a " dead Soul" Numbers 6:6

You Sire have helped me establish my point.

Our lady over there thinks every thing is literal.

HOLYSEE:
What are your yardstick for wrong doctrine, don't get me wrong i am a xtian with different perception...what i am clamouring is that you sit and study the catholic doctrine with biblical emphasis and see that most of their doctrine are correct yes the catholic church was arrogant in the past but now humble and instead of acceptance we are persecuting her... christ was angry with the pharisees and how they implement the mosaic doctrine not the doctrine...all church have doctrine and because they were man made its imperfect even that of your church.as far catholic bliv in christ as lord and saviour i am ok since it all leads to GOD and not lucifer

And I will ask ye, some questions.

Where in the scriptures do we find the use of the rosary? And do you know of the origin so to speak? Or where do we find the statues of Mary?

Some imperfect doctrines might only hamper one from experiencing the blessings and power of the Lord, while some will lead mean to the region of the damned.

An example would be the doctrine of the Nicolaitians.

HOLYSEE:
What are your yardstick for wrong doctrine, don't get me wrong i am a xtian with different perception...what i am clamouring is that you sit and study the catholic doctrine with biblical emphasis and see that most of their doctrine are correct yes the catholic church was arrogant in the past but now humble and instead of acceptance we are persecuting her... christ was angry with the pharisees and how they implement the mosaic doctrine not the doctrine...all church have doctrine and because they were man made its imperfect even that of your church.as far catholic bliv in christ as lord and saviour i am ok since it all leads to GOD and not lucifer

And I will ask ye, one question.

Where in the scriptures do we find the use of the rosary? And do you know of the origin so to speak? Or where do we find the statues of Mary?

Some imperfect doctrines might only hamper one from experiencing the blessings and power of the Lord, while some will lead mean to the region of the damned.

An example would be the doctrine of the Nicolaitians.

True!

But the great King Jesus is alive.

Embrace Him all ye ends of the earth. For in Him is your peace.

And to the churches that are disillusioned with religion, REPENT! And go back to your first love.

Or He will remove your candlestick out of it's place.

MizJanet:
... See their slow responses

Hmm!

Do you really intend to debate with me?

Hope you don't get frustrated at the end.

MizJanet:
Mr , I didnt ask you for poem
I said show me the allegory among those verse I gave you ?

"The soul that sinneth shall die" Ezk 18:20

Well, do souls die?

The answers you seek is in itself.

HOLYSEE:
like i have posited before understand what you practice as christianity before you speak heresy...have you ever heard of staged miracle in the catholic church or their priest reported to be using dark powers...for the record we have occultist even in the so spirit filled church you mention, GOD is just giving them a 2nd chance...stop been naive...i will show next what some of the pastors in churches you mention do that are against the way of christ.

Ah! But a person committing a sin the church is different from a whole gathering following a wrong doctrine.

For even among the disciples of Jesus there was a Judas. It's nothing new under the sun.

But How the great master was enraged at the man made traditions of the Pharisees that made His Holy words of non effect.

MizJanet:
Calm down your nerves *
show me the allegory among those verses I gave you ?

Young earthling!

Of what benefit or purpose do you drag me into your nugatory debates.

Repent and be made whole again! For your salvation lies before you.

"because they did not receive the love of the truth so as to be saved. For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false, in order that they all may be judged who did not believe the truth, but took pleasure in wickedness."

MizJanet:

Keep fooling yourself

Bible said fish and other animals in the sea are living SOUL , tell us where their soul go when they die ? Or their soul die like that of man ? Ezekiel 18:4




Man also ReTurN to DUST says Genesis 3:19




" man and animals have same spirit" Eccl 3:19

Fool youselft you say!

It will be of great benefit for you to enlighten yourself with the original texts. For thus, the scriptures could be understood in light of the matter.

Acquaint yourself also with the contrasts between an allegory and statement of fact.

For then would your eyes be opened. And wisdom shall be your choice possession.

MizJanet:
African Rapper , enough of this rap


Bible said Fish are living SOUL , does that mean they go afterlife ? where do their soul go when they die ?

The spirit makes the soul eternal. Without the spirit the soul expires.

For what is the soul, if not the mind, will and emotions.

Those sea creatures go nowhere when they die, but become as the dust before the wind.

The spirit is eternal, what you humans have. Without it, you are as vain as the fish of which you do speak.

vooks:
It is wise to acquaint yourself with Christian history. The era of mega-rich superstar GO is barely 100years and it coincides with the toxic gospel of benefit; word of faith,prosperity gospel....

So either this generation is doing right having discovered some gems totally lost to the previous generations of Christians for over 1800 years, or we have perfected the art of adulterating the truth and taken it to the next level.

It's pretty clear that non of first century believers had discovered the art of pampering their GOs else Paul would have been riding chariots

What does the scripture say in regards to taking care of the leaders?

Have you tried to pastor millions of people before?

Until then, I think most of us should just keep quiet.

MizJanet:
you are so unintelliigent , oh ! No so worst , am asking him a question based on the fact that your bible said fish are SOULS but you resort to abuse, typical religiotard , u mean the bible is blin.d for saying fish are living Souls ? If you agree with the bible , tell us where fish soul go when they die ?

What does it matter? earthling.

What profit shall I get, seeing I shall but speak to a cold, stony heart. For indeed the great book said "The meek does He guide into all truth".

For ears they do have, but do not hear and eyes they do have, but do not see.

*Oh! Great and Holy One, that the eyes and ears of her understanding be enlightened"

As a great one once said "The best of the most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched-they must be felt with the heart."

excelsiorfarm:
The coming of the Lord is at hand,pls be prepared. JESUS IS LORD

Yes sire!

The great and terrible day of the Lord comes. As the Lord whets His sword, blood will be shed up to the knees.

The Lord has poured out His love, receive it before it's too late.

For those who forsake His Love, shall wrath be given in its place.

Now is the time to work. " For a time is coming when no man can work" the great King said.

For those who observe lying vanities, forsake their own Mercy.

Come Lord Jesus! Come!

yanabasee:
So you actually had a conversation with God?
Olrite!

No I had it with the universe.