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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 8:58pm On Sep 18, 2015

CAPTIVATOR:
Kindly support the underlined point with the bible ?

Gen 1:26(man's authority and dominion) Gen 3:14 (says to the serpent "you are cursed more than all cattle and more than every beast of the field), Job 13-19 (Satan's use of Adams authority and dominion he stole)

ROM 8:19-22. (Scripture earlier given)

English lesson concerning the second scripture: key word (more than)

You are blessed more than all your relations I.e Your relations are blessed to a degree but yours is greater.

You are cursed more than all cattle I.e cattle is cursed but serpent received more punishment to also crawl on the belly.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 8:24pm On Sep 18, 2015

Jessicha:
Its an empty barel that make noise .

Give me the bible verse that said Adam's sin affect animals DNA ?

Do well to also give us a verse that says Adam's sin affected the tectonic plates of the earth?

Or that Adam's sin affected the atmospheric conditions of the earth?

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 8:11pm On Sep 18, 2015

Jessicha:
Go and ask your pastor or open a thread on that .

Dont derail this .

Why do animals die ? THe sin of adam brought death to man not animals , so why do animals die ? .

Looooool!

She had to run away from the questions.

The answer lay within her reach, but to see she could not, but rather chose the way of the blind. For the darkness that lay before her took the form of beauty.

Beauty she said.

But oh! had she known, for without was the path of illumination.

Strangers from a distance observed and wisdom was given to them......."_ That The blind are not those who do not see, but those who wish not to see."

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 7:50pm On Sep 18, 2015

Jessicha:
Lol , so they came from Adam too ?

ReaLY , Jesus died for animal salvation too ?

Did the earth come from Adam? Then explain to us why we have earthquakes.

Did Jesus also die for salvation of the earth from earthquakes? Why will they all stop in the new earth? Why will there even be a new earth? Is it for God or for men?

Open your heart, that you may see the ignorance that lies within. cool

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 7:30pm On Sep 18, 2015

Jessicha:
Are you serious at all ? Animals into the glory of CHILDREN of God !

Pls say i dont know instead of uttering trash .

In an attempt to clear you of your ignorance.

Why do animals die? Because Adam sinned.

Why do we have earthquakes? Because Adam sinned.

Why do we have diseases because Adam sinned.

Why do humans die because Adam sinned.

When will all this stop? In the new earth.

Why will all this stop? Because Jesus died and gave salvation to man. As many as received that salvation will one day receive their new bodies and reign in the new earth?

Will there be earthquakes in the new earth? No

Will the animals there die? No

Will humans there die? No.

What will man eat then if animals don't die? Did Adam and Eve eat animals in the garden?

Why will all this stop? Because then the curse has been fully reversed and then all have been restored back to former glory and death forever ceased. The glorious liberty of the children of God.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Religion Is DEAD by Jeromejnr(m): 7:07pm On Sep 18, 2015

Cerebrum:
Christ has made all Saints. We did no thing in making ourselves saints. Jesus did it all. And he did it one time and for ALL.

Christ hath given the opportunity for all to be saints. But not all hath received of such grace. So not all are saints.

Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 7:04pm On Sep 18, 2015

Jessicha:
See ridiculous answer ...
Based on the bold , You mean animals will be brought into the freedom nd glory of the children of God ?

On the new earth yes.

There will be no more earthquakes, death e.t.c

When the saints would have gotten their redeemed body.

23And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body. 24For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? 25But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Animals Die ? by Jeromejnr(m): 6:57pm On Sep 18, 2015

Rom 8:19For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21thath the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

22We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.

Point: When Adam sinned, because he was the god of this world and all things were subjected to him, all of creation (animals inclusive) also fell.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 1:05pm On Sep 18, 2015*

Aizenosa:
You shame me as a Christian dats all I will say since english and common sense eluded u and answering u is a waste of effort cuz I come here to teach and not to waste my time.

Also, since u believe everything is in the bible pls show me the transfiguration of Christ in the gospel of John cuz the gospel of Mark said John was there ?

Chai! Mehn dis guy.

Just look at your last statement. Smh!

The transfiguration of Jesus was in Mark that was why Mark was placed in the Bible.

Or is Mark not in the Bible? Na wa o. Is it not still part of Genesis to Revelation.

I pity for the people you said you teach.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sfiso Ncwane Buys Car For Francis Anosike, Nigerian Pastor For Healing Him (pics by Jeromejnr(m): 1:00pm On Sep 18, 2015

smuth:
Back your claim with a verse in the bible...Sunday school student wannabe, you still have a long way to go in your bible class.

Ignorance is bliss for some people. Now read this and stop being silly.

Luke 8
1And it came to pass afterward, that he went throughout every city and village, preaching and shewing the glad tidings of the kingdom of God: and the twelve were with him, 2And certain women, which had been healed of evil spirits and infirmities, Mary called Magdalene, out of whom went seven devils, 3And Joanna the wife of Chuza Herod's steward, and Susanna, and many others, which ministered unto Him of their substance.

What does the last statement mean? Better go back to your so called bible class.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 11:32am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Bros, address the points int he op. Try am now

Answer my questions first on the claims you posed. No dodge am.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 11:19am On Sep 18, 2015

My friend CaptainJune you are welcome. grin

Now OP learn from him.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 11:17am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Did you address any of the five points in the op?

And this thread didnt make the front page (yet). Its quality made you think so

I have seen some of your articles on FP. That's what I am talking bout.

You really want me to break down and criticise your points? When you can't even explain the questions you were asked.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 11:13am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
no mind am.

Haha!

Na for NL some people come dey make mouth because they wrote an article and it hit FP.

Chai! I don see things. Don't worry I am a very good critic, I will be watching out for your articles. cool

I see you couldn't even handle this one.

Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 11:08am On Sep 18, 2015

misreal:
this Is why I don't call Catholics Christians,i call them Marians.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:49am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Private jets are scriptural abi?

lwkmd

Having a blog is scriptural abi?

grin

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:40am On Sep 18, 2015

@jaymejate

Our OP here thought he could just come and give is his unscriptural opinions. Not knowing there are those that know what the scriptures say.

Unfortunately many gullible people will feed on his sermon.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:38am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
It surely didnt say "excel in giving money".

I can pray for you to grow in faith against the false doctrine of prosperity preaching

So it was talking of giving someone a strong spirit huh

Why don't you enlighten us on how that is done, O ye of advanced faith.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:34am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Well, you started it.

You can employ me? Do you know who and what I write for??

For the white house.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:31am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Paul was talking about giving. People can give different things money, seeds, labor, crops etc

Paul was talking about receiving. People can receive alot of things. Blessings, strong spirit, health, money.

You only assume that Paul was talking about money.

Even the title of that chapter says "Excel in giving"

So how will you give me a strong spirit?

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:29am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Really? It is ironic because you sound like a church rat to me- the kind of church usher that wears tattered shoes while worshipping his daddy GO.

no offense meant. I am a busy writer.

And so he goes over to insults grin

Busy writer that doesn't have meetings to attend around the globe?

I can even employ you to come and write for me. cool

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:24am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
I will sell the private jet.

Use a quarter to build a house for myself
Use another quarter to start a worthwile business
Use the remaining half to feed my village and support orphanages.

And that will be a better use of the private jet money!

You talk like that because you don't have a lot of responsibilities and are not a busy person.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:22am On Sep 18, 2015

jaymejate:
Hosea 4:6

no1 is slave to any1.
God is who i serve o.
Sha stay there giving reasons while every1 is moving on

I feel you bro.

I still have more scriptures to pump him with sef.

God is busy blessing his mates with mansions and private jets he is here talking.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:20am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is you and a whole generation of tithe-lovers that are spreading ignorance. Jesus was never rich. His earthly father was a carpenter.

Paul was not promising the people he was talking to riches in money but riches in spirit. When did God become a money doubler?

Can you please show us proof where he said rich in spirit there.

Lol. This guy na comedian. Chai! I don see things. Why don't you read verse 14. And tell me how they gather and collect spirits together so there is no lack.

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:14am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
So, it is God's plan for the pastors to be buying private jets abi? Nice one.

Nairaland won't kill me with slaves of daddy GO's

So you are saying God doesn't want pastors to have private jets abi or He can't give them?

Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 10:11am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
Paul was not talking about money there. Are you a Pharisee? Stop twisting scriptures for your own gain. Paul was talking about spiritual things and not physical money. He was talking about being rich in spirit and excelling in faith and grace. Read the whole chapter
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Corinthians+8-9

Money was never the goal of either Jesus or his disciple.

Yes he was talking of money. Why don't you grab your bible and read from verse 1. He was talking of giving there.

In fact the whole chapter was talking of money. Even to the next chapter.

Don't promote ignorance.

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Christianity Etc › Re: 5 Reasons Why Pastors Do Not Need Private Jets by Jeromejnr(m): 9:58am On Sep 18, 2015

AllNaijaBlogger:
It is funny how you never mentioned Jesus or the new testament. Do you only read half of the bible.

Jesus, our Lord and Saviour, lived a very humble life. He rode on a donkey and not a chariot with white horses. Jesus spent time with the poor and the sick.

John the baptist lived in the wilderness and ate natural food

You said Jesus lived a humble life, true!.

But you do agree he came to be our substitute in all things so He could take our curse and give us His blessings. So consider this scripture.

"2 Cor 8:9For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though He was rich, yet for your sake He became poor, so that you through His poverty might become rich."

Paul was talking of money there in that context.

So you guys should stop saying because Jesus was poor that means we should not be wealthy or pastors cannot live im wealth. Because that is against His plans. Just the same way He took our sins and gave us His righteousness.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Sfiso Ncwane Buys Car For Francis Anosike, Nigerian Pastor For Healing Him (pics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:38am On Sep 18, 2015

smuth:
[b] I can see how ignorant you are thinking every power is from God. A true man of God will not accept that gift instead he would ask that the man should use the car since the said man has no car, he should bless the name of the lord by helping those in need. The pastor is not in need of a car, he already has so why add another one to his garage when so many children are hungry on the streets.

IS HEALING FOR SALE? No, according to the book of Matthew 10:8 "Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give".

Our modern Pastors, G.O.'s, Reverends and Priests hate that verse so much that they will try to twist it as if it was written in french but I don't blame them they are only feeding on people's gulliblity. The book of Hosea 4:6 made it known that "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children". But God has this to tell them in the day of judgement in Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven".[/b]

So did it say anywhere that the man of God charged him for his healing?

Wasn't gifts given to Jesus from people like Mary Magdalene whom he casted demons out from?

For your mind you think you are more holy.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sfiso Ncwane Buys Car For Francis Anosike, Nigerian Pastor For Healing Him (pics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:29am On Sep 18, 2015

ollah1:
Did you read the article at all? You just commented based on the subject

I think you should be asking yourself that question.

Christianity Etc › Re: Sfiso Ncwane Buys Car For Francis Anosike, Nigerian Pastor For Healing Him (pics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:21am On Sep 18, 2015

ollah1:
Shut the hell up. He healed the guy yes, the guy has no car anymore which isn't a problem for him but what would he cost the pastor to reject the gift? Ain't healing supposed to be free? It was an appreciation gift but looking inwards, the singer would be jumping from cab to cab while the pastor would be jumping from one of his cars to another. If he is indeed a true guy, he should reject the car.

Which kind of m.umu comment is this.

Did he tell you he has no car or he said he doesn't own such type of car?

Na wa o.

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