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Christianity Etc › Re: Where Did Cain Get His Wife From by Jeromejnr(m): 5:18am On Oct 14, 2015
- Cain's wife discovered (Genesis 5:4). Skeptics point out that Cain had no one to marry - therefore the Bible must be false. However, the Bible states plainly that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. Cain married his sister.

Incest laws established (Leviticus 18:6). To marry near of kin in the ancient world was common. Yet, beginning about 1500 B.C., God forbid this practice. The reason is simple - the genetic mutations (resulting from the curse) had a cumulative effect. Though Cain could safely marry his sister because the genetic pool was still relatively pure at that time, by Moses' day the genetic errors had swelled. Today, geneticists confirm that the risk of passing on a genetic abnormality to your child is much greater if you marry a close relative because relatives are more likely to carry the same defective gene. If they procreate, their offspring are more apt to have this defect expressed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 5:04am On Oct 14, 2015
29. - The sun goes in a circuit (Psalm 19:6). Some scientists scoffed at this verse thinking that it taught geocentricity - the theory that the sun revolves around the earth. They insisted the sun was stationary. However, we now know that the sun is traveling through space at approximately 600,000 miles per hour. It is literally moving through space in a huge circuit - just as the Bible stated 3,000 years ago!

30. - The universe is expanding (Job 9:8; Isaiah 42:5; Jeremiah 51:15; Zechariah 12:1). Repeatedly God declares that He stretches out the heavens. During the early 20th century, most scientists (including Einstein) believed the universe was static. Others believed it should have collapsed due to gravity. Then in 1929, astronomer Edwin Hubble showed that distant galaxies were receding from the earth, and the further away they were, the faster they were moving. This discovery revolutionized the field of astronomy. Eisntein admitted his mistake, and today most astronomers agree with what the Creator told us millennia ago - the universe is expanding!

31. - Light travels in a path (Job 38:19). Light is said to have a "way" [Hebrew: derek, literally a traveled path or road]. Until the 17th century it was believed that light was transmitted instantaneously. We now know that light is a form of energy that travels at ~186,000 miles per second in a straight line. Indeed, there is a "way" of light.

32. - Air has weight (Job 28:25). It was once thought that air was weightless. Yet 4,000 years ago Job declared that God established "a weight for the wind." In recent years, meteorologists have calculated that the average thunderstorm holds thousands of tons of rain. To carry this load, air must have mass.

33. - Jet stream anticipated (Ecclesiates 1:6). At a time when it was thought that winds blew straight, the Bible declares "The wind goes toward the south, and turns around to the north; The wind whirls about continually, and comes again on its circuit." King Solomon wrote this 3,000 years ago. Now consider this: it was not until World War II that airmen discovered the jet stream circuit.

34. - Each star is unique (1 Corinthians 15:41). Centuries before the advent of the telescope, the Bible declared what only God and the angels knew - each star varies in size and intensity!

@ Menesheh if you want more tell me.

@ Chizzled06 you wanted modern predictions right. There are still more if your'e interested.

35. - The Bible describes dinosaurs (Job 40:15-24). In 1842, Sir Richard Owen coined the word dinosaur, meaning "terrible lizard," after discovering large reptilian-like fossils. However in the Book of Job, written 4,000 years earlier, God describes the behemoth as: the largest of all land creatures, plant eating (herbivore), with great strength in its hips and legs, powerful stomach muscles, a tail like a cedar tree, and bones like bars of iron. This is an accurate description of sauropods - the largest known dinosaur family.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 4:55am On Oct 14, 2015
14. - The universe had a beginning (Genesis 1:1; Hebrews 1:10-12). Starting with the studies of Albert Einstein in the early 1900s and continuing today, science has confirmed the biblical view that the universe had a beginning. When the Bible was written most people believed the universe was eternal. Science has proven them wrong, but the Bible correct.

15. - The earth is a sphere (Isaiah 40:22). At a time when many thought the earth was flat, the Bible told us that the earth is spherical.

16. - Scripture assumes a revolving (spherical) earth (Luke 17:34-36). Jesus said that at His return some would be asleep at night while others would be working at day time activities in the field. This is a clear indication of a revolving earth, with day and night occurring simultaneously.

17. - Light can be divided (Job 38:24). Sir Isaac Newton studied light and discovered that white light is made of seven colors, which can be "parted" and then recombined. Science confirmed this four centuries ago - God declared this four millennia ago!

18. - Ocean currents anticipated (Psalm 8:cool. Three thousand years ago the Bible described the "paths of the seas." In the 19th century Matthew Maury - the father of oceanography - after reading Psalm 8, researched and discovered ocean currents that follow specific paths through the seas! Utilizing Maury's data, marine navigators have since reduced by many days the time required to traverse the seas.

19. - Incalculable number of stars (Jeremiah 33:22). At a time when less than 5,000 stars were visible to the human eye, God stated that the stars of heaven were innumerable. Not until the 17th century did Galileo glimpse the immensity of our universe with his new telescope. Today, astronomers estimate that there are ten thousand billion trillion stars - that's a 1 followed by 25 zeros! Yet, as the Bible states, scientists admit this number may be woefully inadequate.

20. - Rejecting the Creator results in moral depravity (Romans 1:20-32). The Bible warns that when mankind rejects the overwhelming evidence for a Creator, lawlessness will result. Since the theory of evolution has swept the globe, abortion, pornography, genocide, etc., have all risen sharply.

21. - The continents were created as one large land mass (Genesis 1:9-10). Many geologists agree there is strong evidence that the earth was originally one super continent - just as the Bible said way back in Genesis.

22. - Continental drift inferred (Genesis 7:11). Today the study of the ocean floor indicates that the landmasses have been ripped apart. Scripture states that during the global Flood the "fountains of the great deep were broken up." This cataclysmic event apparently resulted in the continental plates breaking and shifting.

23. - Ice Age inferred (Job 38:29-30). Prior to the global Flood the earth was apparently subtropical. However shortly after the Flood, the Bible mentions ice often - "By the breath of God ice is given, and the broad waters are frozen" (Job 37:10). Evidently the Ice Age occurred in the centuries following the Flood.

24. - Life begins at fertilization (Jeremiah 1:5). God declares that He knew us before we were born. The biblical penalty for murdering an unborn child was death (Exodus 21:22-23). Today, it is an irrefutable biological fact that the fertilized egg is truly an entire human being. Nothing will be added to the first cell except nutrition and oxygen.

25. - God has created all mankind from one blood (Acts 17:26; Genesis 5). Today researchers have discovered that we have all descended from one gene pool. For example, a 1995 study of a section of Y chromosomes from 38 men from different ethnic groups around the world was consistent with the biblical teaching that we all come from one man (Adam)

26. - Radical environmentalism foreseen (Romans 1:25). Two thousand years ago, God's Word stated that many would worship and serve creation rather than the Creator. Today, nature is revered as "Mother" and naturalism is enshrined.

27. - Black holes and dark matter anticipated (Matthew 25:30; Jude 1:13; Isaiah 50:3). Cosmologists now speculate that over 98% of the known universe is comprised of dark matter, with dark energy and black holes. A black hole's gravitational field is so strong that nothing, not even light, escapes. Beyond the expanding universe there is no measured radiation and therefore only outer darkness exists. These theories paint a seemingly accurate description of what the Bible calls "outer darkness" or "the blackness of darkness forever."

28. - The Second Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy) explained (Psalm 102:25-26). This law states that everything in the universe is running down, deteriorating, constantly becoming less and less orderly. Entropy (disorder) entered when mankind rebelled against God - resulting in the curse (Genesis 3:17; Romans 8:20-22). Historically most people believed the universe was unchangeable. Yet modern science verifies that the universe is "grow(ing) old like a garment" (Hebrews 1:11). Evolution directly contradicts this law.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op):
menesheh:
Very intelligent, silly and unscientific write-up
So you think you can feel free to come here and talk but leave the scientific thread on finding God alone. SMH.

1. - The earth free-floats in space (Job 26:7), affected only by gravity. While other sources declared the earth sat on the back of an elephant or turtle, or was held up by Atlas, the Bible alone states what we now know to be true - "He hangs the earth on nothing."

2. - Creation is made of particles, indiscernible to our eyes (Hebrews 11:3). Not until the 19th century was it discovered that all visible matter consists of invisible elements.

3. - The Bible specifies the perfect dimensions for a stable water vessel (Genesis 6:15). Ship builders today are well aware that the ideal dimension for ship stability is a length six times that of the width. Keep in mind, God told Noah the ideal dimensions for the ark 4,500 years ago.

4. - When dealing with disease, clothes and body should be washed under running water (Leviticus 15:13). For centuries people naively washed in standing water. Today we recognize the need to wash away germs with fresh water.

5. - Sanitation industry birthed (Deuteronomy 23:12-13). Some 3,500 years ago God commanded His people to have a place outside the camp where they could relieve themselves. They were to each carry a shovel so that they could dig a hole (latrine) and cover their waste. Up until World War I, more soldiers died from disease than war because they did not isolate human waste.

6. - Oceans contain springs (Job 38:16). The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors!

7. - There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor (Jonah 2:5-6). Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

8. - Joy and gladness understood (Acts 14:17). Evolution cannot explain emotions. Matter and energy do not feel. Scripture explains that God places gladness in our hearts (Psalm 4:7), and ultimate joy is found only in our Creator's presence - "in Your presence is fullness of joy" (Psalm 16:11).

9. - Blood is the source of life and health (Leviticus 17:11; 14). Up until 120 years ago, sick people were "bled" and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that "the life of the flesh is in the blood" long before science understood its function.

10. - The Bible states that God created life according to kinds (Genesis 1:24). The fact that God distinguishes kinds, agrees with what scientists observe - namely that there are horizontal genetic boundaries beyond which life cannot vary. Life produces after its own kind. Dogs produce dogs, cats produce cats, roses produce roses. Never have we witnessed one kind changing into another kind as evolution supposes. There are truly natural limits to biological change.

11. - Our bodies are made from the dust of the ground (Genesis 2:7; 3:19). Scientists have discovered that the human body is comprised of some 28 base and trace elements - all of which are found in the earth.

12. - The First Law of Thermodynamics established (Genesis 2:1-2). The First Law states that the total quantity of energy and matter in the universe is a constant. One form of energy or matter may be converted into another, but the total quantity always remains the same. Therefore the creation is finished, exactly as God said way back in Genesis.

13. - The first three verses of Genesis accurately express all known aspects of the creation (Genesis 1:1-3). Science expresses the universe in terms of: time, space, matter, and energy. In Genesis chapter one we read: "In the beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter)...Then God said, "Let there be light (energy)." No other creation account agrees with the observable evidence.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 4:42am On Oct 14, 2015
Sarassin:
Really hate to burst this bubble, virtually every one of your so-called prophecies are spurious. I will deal with just one I can’t be bothered with the rest.

This is an unlikely prophecy since,

"Bethlehem Ephratah" in Micah 5:2 refers to a clan, not a town, the clan of Bethlehem, who was the son of Caleb's second wife, Ephrathah (1 Chr 2:50-52). Your much celebrated prophecy does not refer to the Messiah, but rather to a military leader, as can be seen from verses 5-6. This leader is supposed to defeat the Assyrians, which, of course, Jesus never did.

You should note that Matthew altered the text of Micah 5:2 by saying: "And thou Bethlehem, in the land of Juda" rather than "Bethlehem Ephratah" as is said in Micah 5:2. He did this, intentionally no doubt, to make the verse appear to refer to the town of Bethlehem rather than the family clan.
How can you understand. There are many prophecies that refers to King David which also had what is called a double interpretation for Jesus.

Most of the prophecies in scriptures had double interpretations. E.g. In Revelations Jesus messages to the seven churches.

There was also one for a King of Tyre which also had a double meaning for the Devil.
Christianity Etc › Re: Mary's Command For Catholics by Jeromejnr(m): 9:44pm On Oct 13, 2015
You guys are still on this Issue?

He that is humble enough to change will change. It takes meekness.
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 9:38pm On Oct 13, 2015
Chizzled06:
If only the bible had predicted the discovery of electricity.
And what does electricity have to do with the counsels of God and His relationship to men. The bible could have also predicted the Iphone.
Christianity Etc › Re: Is God's Love Really Limitless? by Jeromejnr(m): 9:30pm On Oct 13, 2015
[b]Atheist always claim God is a monster when in fact they are the ones that are monsters. They hate people in their heart, they lie, some steal, some selfishly seduce and sleep with a girl and break her heart without care of what happens to her, some cheat, gossip, slander, are greedy, covetous, proud, false witnesses and betrayers, some even murderers and the list goes on.

But yet they claim God is a monster and they are far better. And somehow they expect if God is good and of Love why will He also punish people in hell. God who is good and the source and standard of all good and infinite good and a righteous Judge will He not punish people with such evil qualities in the depths of hell?

He cries out night and day love yourselves but no people turn their backs and spite each other. But yet they want God to ignore all that.

There is a standard of manufacture for every product made. If a product falls short of the standard by even one mistake, It is discarded and never put out in the market.

But yet they want God who is the standard good whom Jesus said even the Love and care a mother has for her child compared to God, Is as evil in His sight,.... to not punish evil. He who says only His righteousness or someone with His own righteousness can stand before Him.

You would expect that if someone is infinite then all His characters are infinite. His love is infinite as well as His wrath. That's why many will experience His wrath in His infinite form and others His love in His infinite form.

Isaiah who was a prophet of God and considered holy by people in Chapter 6 saw God's Holiness and said "Woe is me for I am undone" and was going to die as a result if not for a Seraphim that had to help him in atoning for his sin.

The Day will tell if God was truly a monster or if it was humans.[/b]
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientist Declares Science Has Found The Biblical God by Jeromejnr(op): 9:08pm On Oct 13, 2015
plaetton:
Huh ? shocked
Oh gosh.
tongue
Christianity Etc › Re: Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 8:27pm On Oct 13, 2015
Since these prophecies cover mostly separate and independent events, the probability of chance occurrence for all is about 1 in 10138 (138 equals the sum of all the exponents of 10 in the probability estimates above). For the sake of putting the figure into perspective, this probability can be compared to the statistical chance that the second law of thermodynamics will be reversed in a given situation (for example, that a gasoline engine will refrigerate itself during its combustion cycle or that heat will flow from a cold body to a hot body)—that chance = 1 in 1080. Stating it simply, based on these prophecies alone, the Bible record may be said to be vastly more reliable than the second law of thermodynamics. Each reader should feel free to make his own reasonable estimates of probability for the chance fulfillment of the prophecies cited here. In any case, the probabilities deduced still will be absurdly remote.

Given that the Bible proves so reliable a document, there is every reason to expect that the remaining 500 prophecies, those slated for the "time of the end," also will be fulfilled to the last letter. Who can afford to ignore these coming events, much less miss out on the immeasurable blessings offered to anyone and everyone who submits to the control of the Bible's author, Jesus Christ? Would a reasonable person take lightly God's warning of judgment for those who reject what they know to be true about Jesus Christ and the Bible, or who reject Jesus' claim on their lives?

*The estimates of probability included herein come from a group of secular research scientists. As an example of their method of estimation, consider their calculations for this first prophecy cited:

Since the Messiah's ministry could conceivably begin in any one of about 5000 years, there is, then, one chance in about 5,000 that his ministry could begin in AD 26.
Since the Messiah is God in human form, the possibility of his being killed is considerably low, say less than one chance in 10.
Relative to the second destruction of Jerusalem, this execution has roughly an even chance of occurring before or after that event, that is, one chance in 2.
Hence, the probability of chance fulfillment for this prophecy is 1 in 5,000 x 10 x 2, which is 1 in 100,000, or 1 in 105.
Christianity Etc › Fulfilled Prophecies: Evidence For The Reliability Of The Bible by Jeromejnr(op): 8:26pm On Oct 13, 2015
Unique among all books ever written, the Bible accurately foretells specific events-in detail-many years, sometimes centuries, before they occur. Approximately 2,500 prophecies appear in the pages of the Bible, about 2,000 of which already have been fulfilled to the letter—no errors.

(1) Some time before 500 BC, the prophet Daniel proclaimed that Israel's long-awaited Messiah would begin his public ministry 483 years after the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem (Daniel 9:25-26). He further predicted that the Messiah would be "cut off," killed, and that this event would take place prior to a second destruction of Jerusalem. Abundant documentation shows that these prophecies were perfectly fulfilled in the life (and crucifixion) of Jesus Christ. The decree regarding the restoration of Jerusalem was issued by Persia's King Artaxerxes to the Hebrew priest Ezra in 458 BC, 483 years later the ministry of Jesus Christ began in Galilee. (Remember that due to calendar changes, the date for the start of Christ's ministry is set by most historians at about AD 26. Also note that from 1 BC to AD 1 is just one year.) Jesus' crucifixion occurred only a few years later, and about four decades later, in AD 70 came the destruction of Jerusalem by Titus.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 105.)*

(2) In approximately 700 BC, the prophet Micah named the tiny village of Bethlehem as the birthplace of Israel's Messiah (Micah 5:2). The fulfillment of this prophecy in the birth of Christ is one of the most widely known and widely celebrated facts in history.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 105.)

(3) In the fifth century BC, a prophet named Zechariah declared that the Messiah would be betrayed for the price of a slave—thirty pieces of silver, according to Jewish law-and also that this money would be used to buy a burial ground for Jerusalem's poor foreigners (Zechariah 11:12-13). Bible writers and secular historians both record thirty pieces of silver as the sum paid to Judas Iscariot for betraying Jesus, and they indicate that the money went to purchase a "potter's field," used—just as predicted—for the burial of poor aliens (Matthew 27:3-10).

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1011.)

(4) Some 400 years before crucifixion was invented, both Israel's King David and the prophet Zechariah described the Messiah's death in words that perfectly depict that mode of execution. Further, they said that the body would be pierced and that none of the bones would be broken, contrary to customary procedure in cases of crucifixion (Psalm 22 and 34:20; Zechariah 12:10). Again, historians and New Testament writers confirm the fulfillment: Jesus of Nazareth died on a Roman cross, and his extraordinarily quick death eliminated the need for the usual breaking of bones. A spear was thrust into his side to verify that he was, indeed, dead.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1013.)

(5) The prophet Isaiah foretold that a conqueror named Cyrus would destroy seemingly impregnable Babylon and subdue Egypt along with most of the rest of the known world. This same man, said Isaiah, would decide to let the Jewish exiles in his territory go free without any payment of ransom (Isaiah 44:28; 45:1; and 45:13). Isaiah made this prophecy 150 years before Cyrus was born, 180 years before Cyrus performed any of these feats (and he did, eventually, perform them all), and 80 years before the Jews were taken into exile.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1015.)

(6) Mighty Babylon, 196 miles square, was enclosed not only by a moat, but also by a double wall 330 feet high, each part 90 feet thick. It was said by unanimous popular opinion to be indestructible, yet two Bible prophets declared its doom. These prophets further claimed that the ruins would be avoided by travelers, that the city would never again be inhabited, and that its stones would not even be moved for use as building material (Isaiah 13:17-22 and Jeremiah 51:26, 43). Their description is, in fact, the well-documented history of the famous citadel.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 109.)

(7) The exact location and construction sequence of Jerusalem's nine suburbs was predicted by Jeremiah about 2600 years ago. He referred to the time of this building project as "the last days," that is, the time period of Israel's second rebirth as a nation in the land of Palestine (Jeremiah 31:38-40). This rebirth became history in 1948, and the construction of the nine suburbs has gone forward precisely in the locations and in the sequence predicted.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1018.)

(cool The prophet Moses foretold (with some additions by Jeremiah and Jesus) that the ancient Jewish nation would be conquered twice and that the people would be carried off as slaves each time, first by the Babylonians (for a period of 70 years), and then by a fourth world kingdom (which we know as Rome). The second conqueror, Moses said, would take the Jews captive to Egypt in ships, selling them or giving them away as slaves to all parts of the world. Both of these predictions were fulfilled to the letter, the first in 607 BC and the second in AD 70. God's spokesmen said, further, that the Jews would remain scattered throughout the entire world for many generations, but without becoming assimilated by the peoples or of other nations, and that the Jews would one day return to the land of Palestine to re-establish for a second time their nation (Deuteronomy 29; Isaiah 11:11-13; Jeremiah 25:11; Hosea 3:4-5 and Luke 21:23-24).

This prophetic statement sweeps across 3,500 years of history to its complete fulfillment—in our lifetime.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 1020.)

(9) Jeremiah predicted that despite its fertility and despite the accessibility of its water supply, the land of Edom (today a part of Jordan) would become a barren, uninhabited wasteland (Jeremiah 49:15-20; Ezekiel 25:12-14). His description accurately tells the history of that now bleak region.

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 105.)

(10) Joshua prophesied that Jericho would be rebuilt by one man. He also said that the man's eldest son would die when the reconstruction began and that his youngest son would die when the work reached completion (Joshua 6:26). About five centuries later this prophecy found its fulfillment in the life and family of a man named Hiel (1 Kings 16:33-34).

(Probability of chance fulfillment = 1 in 107).

(11) One prophet of God (unnamed, but probably Shemiah) said that a future king of Judah, named Josiah, would take the bones of all the occultic priests (priests of the "high places"wink of Israel's King Jeroboam and burn them on Jeroboam's altar (1 Kings 13:2 and 2 Kings 23:15-18). This event occurred approximately 300 years after it was foretold.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 8:08pm On Oct 13, 2015
Jessicha:
You didnt answer my question - how was Gods wrath poured on him in the heart of the earth ?
Who knows? Why don't you ask Him yourself. He was the one that said He went to hell.

Revelation 1:18 (English-NIV)
17 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. Then he placed his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last.
18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.

These scriptures indicate that Jesus was dead and is now alive, he also has the Keys of death and hell. We can see clearly that Jesus mission to destroy the power that the devil had over death was a success.

The death here was not the physical death. So the question is when did He become spiritually alive? So that The scriptures could now declare that we who were once dead, are now alive with Him.

If someone where to go to hell and the person was not spiritually alive, what might He be doing there?

But note that there was a good part (Abraham's Bosom) and a bad part.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 7:51pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Sohuh
Sosoliso.

Is 40:22 He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 7:38pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Did Jesus also say the world is roundhuh
Luke 17:

Jesus says when He comes back (in what people call the rapture) He mentioned some people will be working on the fields (which is obviously in the day) and one will be taken and another left and also some sleeping in the night on the same bed one taken and another left.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 7:35pm On Oct 13, 2015
Jessicha:
@ blue - how was Gods wrath poured on him ?
Is this a trick question?

Why do you think Jesus was rolling on the floor in agony and sweating great drops of blood. (as the Greek text implies). Do you think He was going through all that because of whips and spits and nails on His hands. Where there not other thieves beaten and also crucified?

The Greek original text used very strong words for that event many are not aware of.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 7:31pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Scriptures suggests earth is flat n rectangular, not round...The church killed Gallileo for saying the earth is spherical.
The Catholic church.

Not the people that wrote the Scriptures.
Christianity Etc › Re: Scientist Declares Science Has Found The Biblical God by Jeromejnr(op):
plaetton:
Again waxing ignorant.
Man has always pondered,searched and speculated on his existence and origins.
Science did not begin at any particular time in history, you slowpoke.
Secondly, the Genesis story came from ancient Babylon, a civilization that was advanced in mathematics and astronomy.

You are simply deluding yourself and trying to validate your own silly beliefs that your Bible, a rehash of ancient mesopotamian myths, mysteriously dropped from the sky.
Keep quiet Mr. Man. The point in my comment was science and a Hubble telescopes.

So according to you Ancient Babylon had Hubble telescopes that could see far into the distant galaxy?

You need brain check. You and the guy liking your silly comments.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 7:03pm On Oct 13, 2015
Annunaki:
Not planet X, our planet is called Nibiru tongue
I guess you are the only surviving specie. The chosen one.

Cool. Watch out for the CIA.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:55pm On Oct 13, 2015
Pyrrho:
Just let me know when you find proof that captures the gate of the'll which says "welcome to hell".
grin

According to Virgil's poem (Dante's Inferno), what was written on the gate of hell was "all ye who pass through here, abandon all hope".

I love the way he came up with that.

But one day if interested, you could see the proof for yourself.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:49pm On Oct 13, 2015
Jessicha:
Anyway if you believe the heart of the earth is a typical Hot place where Jesus was tortured . Good for you .
Then you don't really know the Love Jesus has for you and the great price He paid for you.

God's wrath had to be poured out complete on Him. The wrath was not complete on the cross and only on His Physical body.

That was why Jesus had to believe by faith based on an O.T scripture that God would not allow His body to see corruption/decay but raise Him back on the third day.

Scientists say the body starts seeing corruption or decaying on the fourth day. wink

Btw, you should know that for every part and kingdom on the earth, there is a spiritual representation of it. That was why bible talks of the kings and princes of Persia and king of Tyre which where demonic spirits. And also revelation where Jesus reveals Satan's throne was at a particular city of the earth.

A Rabbi once said concerning this, that the faith of Jesus is unsurpassed.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:46pm On Oct 13, 2015
Annunaki:
Annunaki is not a myth angry we exist.
grin

Yea on planet X.

There's a possibility tho! I don't doubt. I am open to research findings.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:37pm On Oct 13, 2015
Jessicha:
Op .. Are you serious at all ? So you mean Jesus was burned in the heart of the earth ? Matt 12:40
Before I say what I wanna say.

You enlighten me and tell me where Jesus went to and what He went to do in the place He went to with our sins?

BTW, you are totally off the topic.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:14pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Jesus died on Friday n rose from the dead on Sunday. That's not 3 days.
And where did you get Friday from. What you heard others say.

Scholars say Jesus died on what we call Wednesday. Which was a High Sabbath.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 6:13pm On Oct 13, 2015
Pyrrho:
I can't delve into your stupid postulation.
Your post is bullcrap!
Last time I checked, assumptions do not pass as proofs.
Well, that's because you don't have anything to say.

I guess Jesus assumed about heat at the core of the earth. And also scriptures assumed that the earth was spherical.

Run along Mr. man.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2015
Pyrrho:
OP.
I can't believe that you are still pushing this nonsensical argument.

You would be an embarrassment to yourself, your family, and your society as a whole.

Imagine your child listening to this rubbish, then getting embarrassed publicly without knowing you fed him with ur stupidity.

Just end it here.

Please.
If you want to talk. refute the argument Logically and don't bring your petty sentiments here.

None of you here has been able to explain how an old manuscript knows science.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:58pm On Oct 13, 2015
Chizzled06:
So heaven is outside our solar system? Outside our galaxy? Or not that far?

Any religious person with a background in science will always distance any concept of an afterlife from the "physical realm".

This is ignorance at its peak.
Scripture says the Lord can span the universe with His hands. Now where will heaven be?
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:56pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Till today, the Jews still rejects Jesus.
Stop generalizing. Have you heard of Messianic Jews?
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:56pm On Oct 13, 2015
chuna1985:
Even as u dig a well n go down, it gets hotter n hotter. This ain't rocket science.
SMH.

So how do we explain that He knew of Hot liquids deep in the crust?

I am sure only Jesus dug wells.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:21pm On Oct 13, 2015
johnydon22:
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Nigerian education system really failed us, just take a look at a sane individual identifying a planetary core as his mythical hell... **These are the dangerous effects of religions because it retards the youths..

The core of a terrestrial planet are as a result of planetary formations.

During planetary formations extremely hot debris of a starry remnant comes under the pull of gravity and clusters together as a hot spinning body this continues until the body solidifies and cools leaving a molten core but a solidified surface.

These cores are found in every terrestrial planets and even moons...

It is the source of earth's and other planet's internal heat generation..

Mars, venus, mercury, earth, our moon, ganymede, europa and many extra terrestrial bodies all have molten cores..

Now according to our brother here all these are the HELLS around. . . The more people bring out these nonsensical irrational assertions in defence of some absurd primitive belief the more i get convinced that it most times take outright simpleton to maintain a belief..

The Op was excited to pour out these lay out so as to heap his claims without even trying to research and know exactly what planetary cores are to avoid disgrace in public forums. .. .. Just take a look at this..

It has been shown clearly that belief/religion is a canoe paddled by ignorance and incuriosity.. Take away the incuriosity and knowledge from people you will only have incurious and sadly ignorant people then you can control them.

But once curiosity drives an individual and he takes back the knowledge he needs, such authorities loses their hold on such minds.

I am beginning to see a close relationship between belief and insanity..
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You still did not say anything and refute the piece. The point from the video is how someone centuries ago knew all this.

Funny athiests, they felt they were much more comfortable to come here but ignore the thread on science finding out God.

Copy and paste.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:19pm On Oct 13, 2015
ifeness:
I will keep making assumptions: Like god is the biggest jealous,insecure piece of shit man has ever taken serious.

The planet has been for millions of years and obviously we ain't the first civilization on this planet. The Egyptians knew far more the bible could ever tell you.
Wow! Really your issue is not lack of evidence but of stubborn hardheartedness.

Lol! You don't believe in walking of water "myth" but I am sure you believe in the Annunaki which was a Sumerian myth.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 5:08pm On Oct 13, 2015
ifeness:
Zeus,Horus,Osiris myth and the Jew guy is realhuh? Now I see where you problem is. Walking on water isn't myth right huh huh

Many lives and race have been wiped,enslaved and destroyed all in the name of jesus. So much blood shed in that useless name.
You are just making assumptions Mr. Man. Why don't you refute this piece and tell us how someone centuries ago knew what science just recently found out.

I understand you are trying to make yourself not to believe. And you only take the part that suits you and leave out the rest.

Until then, all of you should quietly read and leave as you do others you can't refute.
Christianity Etc › Re: Amazing Scientific Proof That Hell Exists. by Jeromejnr(op): 4:56pm On Oct 13, 2015
ifeness:
There is no evidence Jesus existed. I will stop there since it will be pointless arguing that. Horus, Zeus and many others share the same story as Jesus and besides its just recycling of religion.

Anyone could have written that and formed a bible. If hell is exists, it's probably for you and your family.
Even if you don't believe Jesus existed (although there are proofs). The Manuscript was written centuries ago before science by someone. So how did the person come up with such knowledge? Since you are more enlightened.

Horus, Zeus and others have been declared a myth and are never a fuss and not contented about on the earth. But the name Jesus creates such a fuss among many that people try so hard to do without Him. And for some reason, just won't go away.

That anyone that formed the bible must have been very smart and also had supernatural help.

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