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benzion72:
That is exactly the way I felt when I got Executive trainee job with a bank in 2001. I resumed 24th December, 2001. Here are my unsolicited advise for you. You don't need to pay a dime for it. Get the book The richest man in Babylon. It major advise is to save 10 percent of your income, invest another 10 percent and give a tithe of 10 percent. I will advice you invest 40 percent of your income in anything that will give you financial freedom and landed property is the best for now. You don't need to go to Lekki go to Mowe Ofada redeem. Intact if I were you I will invest little in electronics, phones etc because they change with time. It reminds me of my BlackBerry Bold 1. Brand new one then cost N110,000 today it is less than 10k. That money can get me an hacter of land in Ibadan 8 plot then and today I would have resold it at least 300k per plot 7 years after. Have an alternative plan called plan B. Wish best of luck

Wonderful advice.

CallPolice:
How do they know the answer if they couldn't solve it.

Lol! Good question.

MuttleyLaff:
Is that what they now call facts and truth. Opinions? "Just what you think"?

Is this your get out of jail free card, get out of a corner card?
What have I been doing since the beginning of this thread?
You want me to choke you with scriptures when the ones already provided is giving you stomach ache, hmm?

OK if you tell me what exactly you need scriptures to back up with then I'll oblige your special request. Deal?

Show me the white flag, then I'll give you a breather LOL

Guy free me na. Your friend has given up since.

All so called scriptures you've brought I have countered them.

Anytime you are ready, feel free to choke me with scriptures.

CaptainJune:
You already know you have a spirit wife who still exercises its spiritual legal right of ownership over you as a result of some sins in you.

As long as your life is not right with Christ, the greatest mountain moving, earth shattering, universe shaking prayer will not help you. Even when the demon is cast out, it will look for other demons worse and stronger than it to try and reclaim your soul. They can only do that when you return to your sins. This is where daily repentance is vital among other things.

Like someone rightly said, give your life to Christ, examine yourself daily to see if you're living right or not in Christ, ask God to expel every evil spirit troubling your life, then use your authority as a child of God to send them packing, repent daily, feed on the Word daily, read books on the believer's authority (suggestion to help you grow strong spiritually), and be very prayerful.

The outcome of this battle has already been declared long ago - victory is yours through Christ.

Another very wonderful answer. Especially in the aspect of believers authority.

Highcuerayte:
You don't need prayer you don't need to pray all you need is Faith in the name of Jesus.

I love your answer. You know most people don't know of faith and power in the Name and what it can do.

All people do is pray, pray, pray and nothing happens. But prayer alone doesn't work for everything.

I am glad to see there is someone with that understanding.

CaptainJune:
Hahahaha

I can't stop laughing. The guy case strong gan.

That Peter said, "Silver and gold, I have none" has been taken to mean Christians are called to live a life of poverty. Chai, my people perish for lack of knowledge.

Little wonder they attack and villify Christians who truly exercise their rights in Christ, especially the right of financial wealth through faith.

Christians who really know who they are in Christ, what Christ accomplished for them on the cross should always say to themselves, "I can never be poor. It is impossible for me to be poor." This should be their daily slogan while they work towards it in faith.

Before God created Adam and Eve, He had already placed everything they needed in the garden of Eden. It was a paradise such that all the wealth of today cannot compare. He created Adam and Eve to enjoy the work of His hands. They did not struggle to get anything because God did not create them to toil and suffer. Life was easy.

However, Adam sinned, lost the comfort of paradise, and began to toil just to eat. That is, his first struggle to survive began after the Fall: the struggle to eat, to keep warm, to clothe himself and his family, to please his wife Eve...etc.

Man struggling to survive was not God's original plan. His plan was and is for man to enjoy the wealth He has created for them. He doesn't want Man to struggle to get wealth.

God already knew Adam would fall, and He already had the solution to restore Man to his original position he lost in the paradise which is by sending Jesus Christ to the world when the time was ripe.

God did not send Jesus Christ immediately after the Fall because God works according to precision of timing which is called 'The Fullness of Time' or the appointed time.

So Jesus came and died at the appointed time or according to God's timing in His calendar of future events. What Jesus did is that He took the place of fallen Man, became poverty, and became sin and died so that Man would take His place and become rich and righteous and live for Him. It was a transaction of some sort where He purchased Man with His blood but suffered the consequences of the transaction so that Man would once again live without struggle, without stress, blameless.

Therefore, by His death, we are rich, we are righteous. We are free from the curse of poverty and sin by the shed blood of our Elder Brother, the First born of God, Jesus Christ.

So, you can imagine my surprise to hear someone say we are meant to be poor because Peter said he did not have gold and silver to give a lame man. Shows that many profess to be Christians but are really unbelievers as far as God's promises are concerned which is why they never rise up and do exploits for God all their lives till they leave the earth. These are the kind of Christians who the devil is not bothered about since they both are on the same page.

Of such, I won't even argue with. If they believe the death of Christ calls them to a life of poverty, let them live a poverty stricken life. It is their cup of tea, not mine. All I know is just as it is impossible for death to hold God even when He came in the flesh, so it is impossible for me to be poor because Christ died for me, therefore I am rich.

Preach on broda!

If they like, let them keep deceiving themselves with man made doctrines.

They have chosen to live below their privileges in Christ.

MuttleyLaff:
Tell me something I don't already know. I threw all in the mix so that you won't be tempted to manuvoure. I was spoiling you with choices.

LOL listen to yourself doing confused.com
Familiar spirits with the help of other spirits indeed. So how and where do these other spirits get their help from.
You don't half made me laugh here - he-he-he


and that for you is when allows a lying spirit have the day

That is what you think bro.
What about when God allowed the lying spirits to enter the prophets in Israel so that they gave false prophesy?

That is God's prerogative. At the appropriate time He put an end and stop to it.

You only haven't learnt a lot today but you have a lot more to learn LOL

All you just said now was your own opinion. No scriptures at all. Just what you think.

When you are ready to use scriptures to convey your point then tell me.

MuttleyLaff! Leave me alone o. Haha.

MuttleyLaff:
OK then, what are you saying and implying about spirit?

Tell us, how they come about their information, how do come about the knowledge and ability to prophesy, predict or foretell?

Tell us what, in your own words, you're saying about spirits etcetera

Isn't you who asked this question:
"How did the evil spirit know the counsel of God? or did God tell the spirit?"

Answer that too please, in your response to this post

My friend,

Prophesying the counsels of God is different from foretelling the future?

Familiar spirits can say something and with help of other spirits orchestrate an event to happen as they said.

But what we saw from that scripture, was what God was going to do and what He eventually did, the spirits can't orchestrate or move God's hand to do anything.

And usually if you know how evil foretelling works, they don't happen always as said and usually don't go as far into the future.

God does not use evil spirits to prophesy. That was why even as that slave girl said what we will call the truth concerning Paul and his partner, they still had to cast out that spirit.

I mean, why didn't God just leave the Spirit in her since it was helping them "preach" the gospel?

Weah96:
Well, the bible anticipated this argument and that's why it provides what I call PROOF OF BELIEF.

Instead of you telling him what you think and vice versa, read Mark 16:15-18.

I get what you mean.

All I did was provide scriptures. If anyone wants to contradict, they shouldn't bring up their own opinions but the scriptures.

And you can't just sit down and watch people contradicting the word you preach which will eventually affect weak ones. Remember Paul placed a curse on elymas who tried to contradict him as he was preaching to the council.

Jozzy4:
Since you now agree its Yahweh . Your question about demons calling God " Lord" is automatically destroyed .

Get this down into your heart , fornicators , prostitutes , thieves , corrupt politicians all say Jesus is Lord on sundays and even weekdays .

So therefore , thats no big deal ; fake pastors heal in the name of Jesus as Lord ! Do U Agree ? EVEN IN THE BIBLE , Some men use the name of jesus to cast out demons , whereas they themselves use the power of demons .

So someone calling Yahweh Or his son Jesus "lord" doesnt mean they are from God .

" Not everyone saying Lord , Lord will enter into the kingdom of God" Matt 7:21-23 . Thats the point .

My broda, I never agreed. How can I agree to your opinions.

I just wanted to prove a point.

But this arguememt is funny tho. We've long deviated from the topic and gone round the world.

It's cool though, I have learnt a lot.

Weah96:
That's not what I asked though. Is he talking to a DIFFERENT God than the your own? You do realize that he offers prayers and receives instructions too, right?

And how do we know that? Did he tell you he receives instructions from God?

There are many who pose themselves as Christians but are not. (Not talking about him though).

Even the apostles recognised that fact.

Jozzy4:
1samuel 28 : YAHWEH not lord

Hebrew word for Lord is "Adonai "

"I am the LORD thy God" (KJV, also "I am Yahweh your God" NJB, WEB) is the opening phrase of the Ten Commandments, which are widely understood as moral imperatives by ancient legal historians and Jewish and Christian biblical scholars.

I am Yahweh your God, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourselves an idol, nor any image

Jozzy4:
1samuel 28 : YAHWEH not lord

Hebrew word for Lord is "Adonai "

You are trying way too hard My friend.

Even of you say so, it's still the same Yahweh name used when God said, do not call that name in vain.

In fact, in Deut 28: God said He will pour out curses on those that do not revere that Name.

Weah96:
Wait, aren't you both talking to the EXACT same God? Does he have different versions of himself that he'll show to you and show to another person?

What that man has is man’s religious version of God. His is not based on the scriptures.

italo:
Maybe the same way poor people pay their taxes today.

The same way the other poor Christians like St. Paul paid his taxes...

...while he said: To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless.

The same way Joseph and Mary paid their taxes while they were unable to afford a lamb to offer for Jesus' circumcision.

BTW, FYI, History says Jesus wore a very expensive robe that was worn only by rich masters.

That was one the the reasons why the soldiers gambled for His garments.

And also the gold, frankincense and Mryrrh given to Jesus at His birth. Do a research and see how much that costs in millions of dollars today.

Jozzy4:
The Original hebrew manuscript reads Yahweh . Not the substituted LORD . Okay .

It seems you dont know the bible was originally written in hebrew language before your biased translators water down the whole thing .

So Paul was a biased translator. Amazing!

FYI, The OT was written in Hebrew and the NT was written in Greek. Aramaic in some chapters of the OT.

Thank you.

MuttleyLaff:
Typical response

What's your point here anyway?

That spirits know the mind of God, that they are able to prophesy, predict the future or foretell? Either cases without God permitting it or authorising it?

Isn't that what you're saying? That spirits are to some degree, all knowing just as much as the Omniscient God is, isn't it?

You are saying what you yourself said.

italo:
Maybe the same way poor people pay their taxes today.

The same way the other poor Christians like St. Paul paid his taxes...

...while he said: To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless.

The same way Joseph and Mary paid their taxes while they were unable to afford a lamb to offer for Jesus' circumcision.

Then pray for God to baptise you with more poverty.

Jozzy4:
Dont you read that Yahweh was translated Lord because they think its an abomination to pronounce Gods name . Infact the meaning of YAHWEH differs greatly from greek kyrios

Meaning of Yahweh , you wrote


Good , now lets check kyrios and see if it has the same meaning .



See your life .

Everyone knows the greek subtitute kyrios for the ORIGINAL HEBREW due to the jewish tradition . Yet you come here and say trash .

Hahaha.

Oga, you no get any explanation to give again. Don't bring you own opinions.

I have caught you in your own web.

And where did you read that they translated it to Lord because it was am abomination?

Just as Elijah was Hebrew and Elias was Greek. Was it written that way because his own name to was sacred?

SMH! I am through with you man.

MuttleyLaff:
of course she did but you keep on playing the selective reading game.
Keep on conveniently ignoring already mentioned facts and truth that it's only when God allows it. Sogbo?

Do you not want to admit that nothing goes past God. That nothing happens without God allowing it. Even prophecy or is it foretelling, as you want to hide behind that word. LOL

Reiterating, God allowed the familiar spirit and that young girl to prophesy.

Go brush up or dust up your Bible to read about God giving prophets to lying spirits

Nothing happens or gets done on earth, especially if it is going to go against that rule "let man have dominion on earth etc" without God's saying so or authorisation.

Spirits don't have the mandate to operate on earth. They are only allowed if God permits.

Anyone that wants to operate on earth needs a body, without one that operation is done illegally, unless if God permits them to bypass the protocol or rule like that familiar spirit at Endor, Moses & Elijah at the mount of Transfiguration etcetera

Read my reply to your Bros and don't be ignorant.

And BTW it was lying sprits to lie and not to foretell the future. Because those spirits never said anything of the future that came to pass.

Thank you.

Jozzy4:
Check the above , its the english translators that deliberatly CHANGE Gods Name YAHWEH to LORD .

" YAHWEH" appear in the manucrispt not lord .

That should solve your confusion .

Haha. A name that was too sacred even to be pronounced by Jews and not to be mentioned anyhow. It's now a demon that would pronounce it.

When God had told them "never mention my Name in vain"

You need to study man.

italo:
This one scripture is true...

But you want to make it a lie.

No amount of other verses can make this one verse a lie.

Peter had no silver or gold!

Chai! your case is strong.

I wonder how Peter must have paid his taxes at that time.

Jozzy4:
Check the above , its the english translators that deliberatly CHANGE Gods Name YAHWEH to LORD .

" YAHWEH" appear in the manucrispt not lord .

That should solve your confusion .

Thanks be to God, I am always one step ahead.

Helloooo! First of all, no one ever in the bible ever used the english word Lord. But the Hebrew word and the Greek.

"the Hebrew word for "Lord", when they encountered the name of God, "YHWH", which was thus translated into Greek in each instance as kyrios." Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrios

"The Greek word Kyrios (Κύριος) means "lord, Lord, master"

Given Name YAHWEH

GENDER: Masculine
USAGE: Theology
PRONOUNCED: YAH-way [key]
Meaning & History
A name of the Hebrew God, represented in Hebrew by the tetragrammaton ("four letters" יהוה (Yod Heh Vav Heh), which was transliterated into Roman script as Y H W H. Because it was considered blasphemous to utter the name of God, it was only written and never spoken, which resulted in the original pronunciation becoming lost. The name may have originally been derived from the old Semitic root הוה (hawah) meaning "to be" or "to become". Source: http://www.behindthename.com/name/yahweh

As you can see, Hebrew: Yahweh =Greek: Kyrios =English: Lord/Master. The same word used in 1 Cor 12:3.

So tell me again, how you have solved the issue.

MuttleyLaff:
You dey mind him, the delusion is legendary gan ni.
Told me God allows the spirits to predict whenever He deems fit

That one you pointed too is another classic example, but you know our friend won't bulge, first want to hear it or wouldn't have none of it

From the classic example like you said.

The slave girl, did she foretell what God was going to do in ppl's lives?

How did the evil spirit know the counsel of God? or did God tell the spirit?

But yet we saw from Saul's case, what God was going to do was foretold.

You don't even know how foretelling works.

You na never jam questions yet.

midolian:
Take note of the "more" in my comment, man. Its not all about the traffic. this topic is of interest to many. And how do you know this? Check the number of pple viewing the topic @ the moment. If it wasn't of interest to you, u wouldn't have viewed it. Stop the hypocrisy. There are some educative topics on front page too, you cld have opened one of them. Its not always about educating pple. Get that into your head, man.

Okay sir, I have heard you.

No wonder the world is messed up.

midolian:
because na this kain topic me and you dey rush to view. Let's stop deceiving ourselves. You should have known its more about the traffic a thread will generate than any other thing.

So that is what the world has become.

People trying to make money at the detriment of feeding others with information that incites all forms of lusts, hatred and vices. Information that will never help anyone in anyway.

MuttleyLaff:
You dey mind him, the delusion is legendary gan ni.
Told me God allows the spirits to predict whenever He deems fit

That one you pointed too is another classic example, but you know our friend won't bulge, first want to hear it or wouldn't have none of it

Oga, your friend never answer my question.

italo:
Truth goes straightforward; lies go roundabout.

See how many words it is taking you to twist the gospel?

"Silver and gold, I have none!"--St. Peter.

'Silver and gold, St. Peter had at home'--Jeromejnr.

Why take one scripture and leave out the rest Mr. Man.

Why don't you explain the rest.

Don't dodge the multitude of scriptures.

Na this kind thing go hit frontpage.

There are better topics that can help edify people but they will never make frontpage.

babafemi1000:
I don't dispute speaking or praying in tongues (of men or of angels). I'm all for it.

What I dispute is people saying that when you receive the holy ghost, you must speak in tongues as evidence! This is not true. So many evidences abound of one's having the holy ghost, not only tongues. Fruits of the spirit? Charity? A more excellent way? 1 Cor 13: 1-13.

Please pray in tongues and speak too, by all means. It's good!

Secondly, praying in the holy ghost means to pray according to the will of God. Jesus prayed. He prayed in the spirit too! Did he speak in tongues? Did paul when he received?

One's personal experience, while good, don't trump scriptures. Let's look to scriptures and not experiences.

It's just like someone who tithes and sees blessings and then uses it as proof to support tithing whereas scriptures don't impose tithing on us anymore

Yes sir,

Paul spoke in tongues when he received. "I speak in tongues more than you all".

And not everyone's detailed experiences has to be recorded in the scriptures. But we see that everytime hands were laid on people they spoke in tongues. Every time and everywhere.

There are some things writing that are just assumed that we know what they talked about.

But again, scripture says "we don't know what we should pray for as we ought to, but the Spirit helps us with groanings which cannot be uttered"

Well, how does the Spirit help us pray with groanings which cannot be uttered?

Because just praying according to the will of God in English is not a groaning and the English language can definitely be uttered.

What's your take on this?

italo:
Acts3:6 But Peter said: Silver and gold I have none; but what I have, I give thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, arise, and walk.

Keep deceiving yourself with your strange man-made prosperity gospel!

More:

'For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment.'

You see the apostle even says, "to this very hour we go hungry and thirst". What does that mean?

If you understand the English language, then you will know he acted surprised by the fact.

Again I say, you are not an apostle. Don't let man made doctrines rob you.

italo:
Acts3:6 But Peter said: Silver and gold I have none; but what I have, I give thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, arise, and walk.

Keep deceiving yourself with your strange man-made prosperity gospel!

Na wa o.

You just quoted a one time event. What if he had left the money at home as he was going to the temple?

Peter had a wife and kids, so how was he taking care of them if he didn't have a single dime?

Apostle Paul too was not that wealthy, but yet he said "poor, yet making many rich; having nothing, and yet possessing everything."

I mean this guys were constantly spending most of their time in jail. How were they supposed to be interested in having wealth. Even though they had their needs provided for.

But yet they made many rich.

1 Cor 4 "Already you have all you want! Already you have become rich! You have begun to reign—and that without us! How I wish that you really had begun to reign so that we also might reign with you! For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena."

Mr man, you are not an apostle. you had better not let man made doctrines rob you of God's blessings.