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lepasharon:
neither did a worldwide flood happen

neither did Gd create man from dust

All make-beleive

So what is man made from? Glass?.

What the heck is dis

Lilyomi:
I thought a typical nigerian who wears agbada sef.

I don't think your sentence is complete.

An2elect2:
And one more thing you don't have the power to cast out demons neither do you know the time, when people should be set free.

There is never a time to be set free. Everyone has been Set free a long time ago by the cross. Any demon can be casted out anytime anywhere.

Jesus never told anyone to come later for their deliverance or healing.
Now is the time of salvation as the scripture says not later. Now!

boman2014:
must you attack one's religion?

don't you know that Christians are the most violent set of people in the world

Baba calm down.

londongal03:
my people perish because of lack of knowledge

And what is the lack of knowledge?

nobilis:
Interesting.
First and foremost, from the bolded expression, u have used your words to negate another biblical expression:
"The earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof"

I expect you to also tell me how that expression is wrong and unbiblical.

Secondly, whether it is God that called his word bible or not, does not matter. What matters is that there is a book called the bible. And the adjective that describes anything pertaining to the bible is "biblical".
Biblical is an English word, not a Hebrew or Latin Word. So you can check the meaning of biblical in an English dictionary.
The OP asked if that statement was biblical and the simple answer is that the statement is biblical.
Whether Job spoke in error or not, is not the question. That statement is IN THE BIBLE and therefore is biblical.

Thirdly, there was something Jesus said to his disciples. That they should not be afraid of those who can destroy only the body but should be afraid of Him who can destroy both the body and the soul in Hell (making reference to God).
Logically, if Job's statement were to be a theorem, Jesus' statement is its corollary.

Fourthly, you can shout from today till tomorrow that it is Satan that takes life. But, according to your bible, Satan is not the owner of life. God is. And God cannot allow Satan to take what belongs to Him.
Even for the people you call sinners, if God doesn't condemn a soul to hell fire, Satan cannot drag that soul to hell fire.

Lastly, if ,for example, President Muhammadu Buhari commissions anyone to build an airport in Nigeria, it is Buhari that built that airport.
Why?
Because he is in charge of Nigeria and that builder would not have built the airport if Buhari didnt allow it.
God created Job. God created Satan. God was in charge of Job and all his endeavours. God allowed Satan to take away everything that has Job has and inflict him with a terrible sickness.
It was God that did it.
Afterall, Paul said God doesn't test his children with temptations that they cant bear. Which means that God actually tempts his children.

I really don't have the time to answer all this.

But know the fact that God is the owner of the earth does not mean He is in control of what goes on, on the earth. He himself said the devil is the god of this world.

World here is different from earth. The world revered to systems or group of people following a particular system.

God is the owner Of the earth because He created it but not I'm charge of its systems because he handed that authority and freewill over to man. Who in turn turned it over to the devil.

When the OP asked if it was biblical, we all know what he meant. "Is it truth?"

If he asked is it in the bible? We would say yes it is in the bible. But if he said is it the truth? Then that would be another case entirely.

And lastly, the bible never said God tests His children. It only said He won't allow the tests that come to be unbearable.

In fact James says : James 1:13 "Let no one say when he is tempted, "I am being tempted by God"; for God cannot be tempted by evil, and He Himself does not tempt anyone."

This is why I said you need to balance the OT with the NT.

nobilis:
Hmmm.
What exactly is your point, bro?

See how you guys are turning your faith upside down. So you don't even know what you believe in.

First and foremost, whether it is true or not, was not what the OP asked. The OP asked to know if that statement is biblical. And I have shown that it is in the bible.

Secondly, are you trying to say that it is not God who gives life and takes away life? Are u trying to say it is not God who gives and takes away?
Using Job's case as an example, God gave him wealth and children and livestock and God permitted the devil to take them away. So how is Job's statement false.

Thirdly, if u say what Job said is false, it means that you're saying that many of the other things he said might be false. And it also means that you're finally agreeing that the bible book of Job wasn't divinely inspired like u guys claim (because the Holy Spirit, according to that same bible, is not a spirit of error and falsehood). Then it also means that you're agreeing that there might be other books of the bible which were not divinely inspired.

Christians!!!
Chai!
Confusion everywhere.
A confused bunch of people who dont even know what to believe.

Mr. Man, I think your confusion comes from the fact that you refuse the ability to comprehend statements.

Firstly, what is the meaning of the word biblical? The word bible was just a name given to the book that contained Hebrew scriptures. God was not the one that called His word the bible. There is a difference between the bible as a whole being the word of God and the fact that the Bible contains the Words of God. So that something is contained in the bible does not mean it is "biblical" as you people call it. That word used actually is not supposed to be "biblical" but the word "Scriptural"

Now there is a difference between the word Bible and Scriptures. The Bible is a collation of both historical accounts and events and also contains the scriptures, while the Scriptures are teachings/doctrines/prophecies/commands of God in the bible that are to be observed and taught.

Secondly, God gives life but does not take away. There is a difference between doing something yourself and allowing/permitting something to happen. The devil had the legal right on the earth at that time because man had leased it over to the devil. God is in charge of the earth but not in control....(I am just gonna stop here because your not a christian anyway so can't understand the whole point).

Thirdly, at the end of the book of Job you see God was angry with what Job and his three friends have been saying all the while. And He even commanded them to make atonement for their sin. So tell me, how is it hard for you to understand that not everything contained in there is not Truth. The O.T was not written to us but for us. While the N.T was written to us. The New was to help balance with the old in order to sieve out the Truth.

But you can't understand all these because you are not enlightened. So I understand.

I hate Hummer jeeps.

I would prefer if he stood on top a Ferrari.

nobilis:
LOL
A Christian that doesn't even know his own holy book, The Bible.
This is extremely ridiculous.

U Christians eh!!!
SMH

Because it was said by Job does not make it true. There were many things said by people that was not true from God's standpoint. That was why Jesus later came to correct many errors the people believed in.

kosplateau:
It's...

"It's..."

incredu:
Are you an English teacher?
This is Naija o! U go soon tire for correction.

Hehe. No mind me jare.

Poliporpor:
thank u. I will change the auto-correction on my fone to a modernized version. Do u know any software that I can download online for free?

I could recommend swype. Its much more effective.

But you could check out this link: http://www.howtogeek.com/209618/how-to-improve-autocorrect-on-googles-keyboard-for-android/

Poliporpor:
Place mind Ur business. Let her make her mistakes. Focus on Ur own

Change your place to please.

adorable29:
Omo, you be correct guy....

Convince her to wait for you!

But if she doesn't....




*In Celendion's voice* I (adorable) will be waiting for you here inside my heart......

Hehehe

Its Celine Dion not celendion.

sonofananimal:
YOU KNOW SAY YOU MUMU BY

HOW YOU TAKE KNOW SAY NA WRONG PERSON SHE WON MARRY AND HOW YOU COME KNOW SAY YOU BE THE RIGHT PERSON FOR HER

I KEEP ON TELLING PEOPLE, DON'T USE YOUR HEART TO LOVE BUT RATHER YOUR BRAIN.

LEAVE THAT WOMAN AND GO AND CHASE MUCH YOUNGER GIRLS.

I GUESS SHE MOST HAVE REACH THE THE AGE OF 27-30 THAT IS WHY MARRIAGE IS IN HER HEAD.

BIKO LEAVE HER ALONE. FORGET LOVE OR RATHER FOLLOW DIFFERENT WOMEN AND SEE THE JOY BEHIND IT

So that is why you quoted the whole post.

missmary:
I think i just fell in Love with Op.. .. Seems like you truly love her... Let her do her will but with this i think she should be reconsidering..

You've told us this twice now. Seems you want the OP to propose to you.

blazetitov:
Leave her to her faith and wish her all the best.

Its fate not faith.

frosbel2:
most do.

Well, they are ignorant in that aspect. And it's not necessary for them to know.

And who ever said Christians believe the earth is 6000 years old?.

MuttleyLaff:
Am like that battery, Ever Ready

Throw more light, explain or expatiate the remark
Tell what you meant with it,
Write at length or in detail what you meant by ''...poverty is not good, pleasing and perfect''

So we are going to be applying both human common sense and scriptures:

Common sense- Poverty obviously is not a good thing, It's not a pleasant experience and in the aspect of perfection, the default goal of every human is perfection. And for perfection to happen there has to be success in a series of events. Success=Prosperity.

Prosperity=Prosper which comes from the Latin Prosperus ("Doing well". Doing well according to human language in the aspect of career or finances means making profits. Making Profits=Making More money.

Making more money=Prosper, Prosper=Prosperity. Prosperity is the opposite of Poverty. So there we can also say Poverty is never anyone's perfect will.


Scriptures:

Poverty is a curse from God which came as a result of disobedient to God's will. "Deut 28: 16...".

God said in Deut 5:29 "Oh, that their hearts would be inclined to fear me and keep all my commands always, so that it might go well with them and their children forever!"

Go well=Do well which is also "Doing well" as I said in the illustration above and doing well = Prosper.

Now God also said:
Deut 30:19 "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live"

He gave man options either you obey and follow Him or not. The consequences of your actions is either life. Life=Blessings, Death=Curses.

And He advised to choose life. Him advising to choose life means it is His good, pleasing and perfect will for us to enjoy His blessings.

And noticed in the two scriptures He talked about their children living long and everything being well with them.

The "Oh" at the beginning shows His heart cry and desire, His passion to see His good, pleasing and perfect will come to pass.

So yes poverty can never be His good, pleasing and perfect will.

But someone might say, that's just the old testament. God might have changed it now.

Back to scriptures:

Mal 3:6

“For I am the Lord, I do not change;.."

Heb 13:8 "Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever."

So God's character and nature of being good and doing good can not and will never change.

Thank you.

MuttleyLaff:
Now I know you're not just a comedian but you also do clowning on the side

Trap you?
I leave those skills for the best in the game. You!
You're very good at entraping people like you tried with italo and twice with me too

I dont doubt you, as you're a very bright guy
Am sure you've realised and seen the faux pas in that ''...poverty is not good, pleasing and perfect'' remark of yours
but fear of losing face, ego etcetera should in case there are holes in your explanation prevents you from throwing more light on the remark

Okay, so now that you are ready to talk, what do you want me to explain clearly?.

MuttleyLaff:
My brother, why are you behaving like this now.
Sebi we are learning off each other, isnt it. No be competition ooo
Just expatiate the remark
Tell what you meant with it, make an attempt
write at length or in detail what you meant by ''...poverty is not good, pleasing and perfect''

BTW, if you think you could try to trap me in your debates, just forget it.

I watch what I say and I'm very good at defending myself.

MuttleyLaff:
My brother, why are you behaving like this now.
Sebi we are learning off each other, isnt it. No be competition ooo
Just expatiate the remark
Tell what you meant with it, make an attempt
write at length or in detail what you meant by ''...poverty is not good, pleasing and perfect''

Guy, e be like say you like me. If you wan be my friend, tell me o, I am a very friendly person. I will give you my number sef.

plaetton:
Lol.

Deep thinking, or deep Delusions bordering on insanity?

I usually don't word with atheists. But I could go down the logic path with you.

"Deep thinkers"

MuttleyLaff:
Pretend not knowing, play the ignorance game, do whatever you like
just know that, it is on record you said:
''...you first need to understand that poverty is not good, pleasing and perfect''

I have asked you the umpteenth time what your train of thought was when you made the remark,
but alas, instead of explaining, defending or backing up the remark, you're playing hide and seek with me

My train of thought is revealed in the remark itself.

SenatePresdo:
how do i encounter God myself, have been a very good christain.

There are issues:

1. Probably you were just born into a religious family.i.e you Mother and Fathers faith, so you just accepted Christianity as your path. But whatever it is that you parents encountered to make them that way,you yourself never had one.

2. Maybe you got saved by a preacher/anyone who just wanted to see souls added to his/her list. So the person went out of his/her way to try to persuade you through fleshly means to becoming saved. Actually people do get saved like that. But the problem is that those kinds never eventually remain. The are like the chaff or tree with no deep root.

3. Or maybe you are genuinely saved but go to a church that just engages in religion and there is no power. It's all men's words. Because I can guarantee you, by the time you start seeing awesome miracles like limbs growing back, raising of dead, blind seeing e.t.c., No matter what any atheist says, you can never be moved.

So how do you encounter God.

1. Ask for you own encounter, seek it. (I didn't actually seek mine, but by God's grace He found me Himself in my room on a particular night with no one preaching to me.)

I have seen and encountered things that no matter what anyone says, I know what I've experienced.

2. If necessary, stop religion and change to a Spirit filled church.

3. Once again I say Seek. I cannot emphasize this enough. Because this is very necessary, if not with the way the world is going right now, you might end up by the way-side if you don't have your own experience.

Example: Like Paul because of his experience on the road, he could never be shaken but was even willing to die for what he believed.

Jer 2:13 "You will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.'I will be found by you,' declares the LORD,..."

The Anti-Christ cannot be revealed yet until the daily sacrifices are restored in the Holy Land. And that has not happened yet.

And that has to happen for the abomination that causes desolation to occur. Which will reveal the Anti-Christ.

Now that's deep teaching.

SenatePresdo:
i'm still a theist, but my faith in religion is kind of weak.

Do you know why?

You've not encountered God for yourself.

When you've, there's no amount of logic that could shake you.

How are we sure you are not already an atheist?