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magicminister:
Do you remember that beat fm staff that was beat black and blue by olisa adibua??
After all the fanfares, the staff got sacked and olisah walked free. Things are up-side-down in Nigeria.
If anyone hits you, please hit them so hard that they faint. Its called self defense.
If u like call police from now till next year, they will not cone for a minor issue such as assault. Yes, its a minor issue in Nigeria.
If you venture to the police station, you might even be arrested gan....

I don't think you followed the story very much. The case never made it to trial because the guy didn't want to anymore. I presumed they had a backdoor discuss where a compensation or an agreement was reached. And I am very sure he would have signed a confidentiality agreement that would limit him from discussing the issue any further after been compesated.

Now, your assumption based on the fact that Nigeria is still a very backward nation is a reflection that you would rather break the law than see the right things done. Let me also clear one fact, before I made my post I had read a lot of issues relating to what I quoted and had to come with this conclusion because not so many Nigerians reads the constitution and what it stands for.

Ok let me help you on that. The Constitution itself limits the power which sovereign authority has, in simpler terms, it gives people it is applicable to a means to reflect on their right and not live in fear of being abused.

Nigeria is a country, not an attitude, So please, enough lecture about telling me this is Nigeria, because if you keep saying that, you can as well open the dictionary to check what civil or democracy means. We have gotten so many things wrong and I don't blame many people for thinking this way.

@defemidefemi to the extent of 0.025%, I agree with you, and the reason is because The Law itself has several limitations which powerful or influential people takes advantages of. But It doesn't change the fact that we should stand for our right, and also Law is changing in Nigeria, particularly lagos, there are lawyers who are willing to go extra-miles just to see justice done probono.

Also you cited an English Maxim "where two equity are equal the first in time prevail". In a case like this, this is a very wrong Maxim to cite because Equity isn't equal because the employee didn't retaliate. You should be careful when you quote maxims, it could totally crumble your case the very instance it begins. Also if you read the title correctly, I stated "Minor Mistakes", Equity cannot justify the Boss action based on Minor Mistakes because by slapping his employee, he/she has first Violated the employee's fundamental human rights as a citizen of Nigeria, also could also be charged with assault.

[b]Here are also few lines from the Nigerian Labour Act 1990


46. (1) Any employer who neglects or ill-treats any worker whom he has contracted to employ in accordance with this Part of this Act shall be guilty of an offence, and on conviction shall be liable to a fine not exceeding N500 or to imprisonment for a period not exceeding one year, or to both.



(2) Where an employer or his agent is convicted of any offence under subsection (1) of this section, the convicting court shall report the case to the Minister, who may by notice in the Federal Gazette cancel any contract into which the employer or his agent may have entered in accordance with this Part of this Act.

(3) Any cancellation under subsection (2) of this section shall have effect from the date of the publication of the relevant notice.

(4) Every worker whose contract has been cancelled under subsection (2) of this section shall be maintained and conveyed to his place of abode (together with any members of his family who have accompanied him) at the expense of the Federal Government, and all sums reasonably expended upon the maintenance and conveyance, together with any wages due to the worker under the cancelled contract, may be recovered from the employer or his agent by deduction from any deposit or security given under section 24 (7) of this Act or by civil proceedings.

(5) The cancellation of a contract under this section shall not prevent the taking of legal proceedings in respect of the contract under this or any other enactment.[/b]

To be honest with you, even something as small as a pinch for doing a minor wrong could be considered assault. One more thing, if you report a case like this to the police and they turn you down or beat you in the process, don't get angry, get a phone or an audio or video recording devices and read your fundamental human rights as stated, word for word in the constitution relating to the issue at that instance to the Police officers present. And If the police officers then say anything contrary or beats you after you read your rights, then they are non-verbally expressing supremacy over the provision of the 1999 constitution of Nigeria which is contrary to Sect 1(1) that states that[b] "The Constitution is supreme and its provisions shall have binding force on the authorities and persons throughout the Federal Republic of Nigeria".
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@INTROVERT Whether Major or Minor mistakes, it still doesn't change the fact that the law was broken. By Slapping an employee. While this is done, the employee could be held for different charges for letting something that costs the company huge loss happened.

Courts treats cases step by step and not bundled so as to give a fair hearing.

jerflakes:
Just find some motorpark touts,

Buy one man squad (N400 for 2bottles) and marijuana (N500 worth) for them,

and tell them where to wait for your boss.

Also let them know that after handling your boss, they can collect his phones, laptops, wallet, watch, shoes, shirts and any orher tangible thing as payment.

Lastly, tell them to make sure that they break the hand your boss used to slap you.

That way, you will be happy that you have made new friends and your boss will not slap anyone again.

You get issue. hahaha

Elegantdiva:
I think the slap is preferable than subjecting one to cleaner, gardner, Gateman and houseboy!( even wif ur bsc) .
Insults his employee at any slightest selffault.. .. Just waiting for d day he would reduce my salary or slap me than he would know who my parents are. Than i would personnly tell him not every jobseeker is hungry!

Well if you try it, your claim might not be justified because you retaliated. This is in accordance with the English Maxim "He who comes to equity must come with clean hands"

It is better to know your right.

dearpreye:
You don't change a winning formula!

Lies and propaganda won them the elections. They'll seek to run the government using the same primitive tools, and will continue to deceive the irredeemably gullible even when it's obvious this government is yet to resume work.

The APC lying machine has been fully commissioned and running. Prepare for more lies.

Unfortunately, all lies have their Waterloo day, and shall be defeated at the altars of truth and transparency.

Propaganda is a consistent and necessary factor in Politics, PDP did the same things, even while they were debased from their high and mighty position. Now my point is, in politics there is no winning formula until it is winning realistically.

Believe me, to effectively put Nigeria back on a steady surface, it must continue to change its system until a new candidate gets it right. I won't be prejudice about this issue. If Buhari gets it wrong during his tenure, I will vote another candidate that makes a better promise.

There are things most politicians fail to understand, they embark on fruitless projects trying to show Nigerians they are working but the honest truth is, no one can satisfy human wants.

They need to start showing Nigeria what Patriotism is like, the Government can't do it alone. How many times has the Government recognize grassroots for their efforts in their society, The police men, soldiers that died in combat, we forget these importance too quickly, where are statue that.. People needs to be motivated, people need to feel like the Government truly understand their needs.

After Election, our government don't feel the need to promote their ideals because they are in power. Former Governor Fashola was consistent, he understood this and used the knowledge effectively, every Lagosian felt like they were in touch with him, that wasn't the case with Former president Jonathan. I will give him one thing, he had a plan, but not a glue(people he employed) to put it together.

Buhari was once a Military president, so I could understand how far he would go to make sure people do his bidding which is good for me for now. But if he fails, I will vote for another candidate.

ghettodreamz:
Going back to the office to slap the abusive boss will not cut it, if he had done that immediately when the slap landed on his cheek, that would have been more gracious and reasonable thing to do.

If I were in his shoe, I really don't know what I would have done in such an awful situation, but I doubt if that would ever happen in civilized nations though.

Only in Nigeria there are no employee rights act, where a head of a department or an employer would do such and go scot-free. One thing is sure though, your friend is not the first to have experienced such abusive treatment from a superior in an office or organization, and won't be the last if situation of things in Nigeria are not changed. A lot of cases bordering on abuses and assaults in a work place go unreported and many employees have had to sell off their rights to ensure a constant flow of income so as to keep body and soul together and ensure they have a paying job that can put the food on the table for their families. Otherwise, they stand the risk of being fired and sent back to the job-hunters market filled with millions of qualified but unemployed graduates.

As regarding the said boss' conduct, it's so unethical of her to have slapped him, regardless of the situation on ground (except, if only she returned a slap initiated by your friend) and a plain assault on your friend's person.

There is a 1990 Nigeria Labor Act. Any secret hidden in books is too shallow to go through to find the truth for most Nigerians

LadyBoss1:
Slapped a few myself

Yes if they dont like it they can quit

Did you get my message?

LadyBoss1:
No
To be honest dont know what halfwit means ..

halfwit is another word for a fool..I PM'ed you.

I wish this makes FrontPage though

I just had to post this. I hope every employer and employee can learn from it and put their acts together and fulfil their obligations without prejudice..

I know because our people are far backward, even some so called educated people wouldn't dare learn anything outside their main, It is a bad idea doing that. Man must continue learning, it is the only way to keep whatever is Natural about man in existence, we must evolve.

Ooops sorry for taking your through my brooding. OK I want you any Employee to understand this due to a question raised so many times on Nairaland.

In Nigeria, If your boss strikes you, then he/she has committed assault and you need to file charges. Calmly call the police and file a report.

The police are likely to come and take a statement. If there is a great deal of evidence (mark on your face, a cut, witnesses to the event, etc) your boss will be arrested and taken to jail. You may be terminated; however most companies wouldn't dare to immediately fire an employee who was struck by a member of the management team. They would instead start an investigation, which would likely lead to the termination of the manager.

Even if the police do not arrest your employer, contact your HR department immediately. Tell them what occurred and strongly request that action be taken. Also, ask for the remainder of the day for personal reasons and contact an attorney. You may have the makings of a civil suit against both your boss as well as the company.

Do NOT hit your boss back. The urge to do so will be great, but you need to be the mature and professional person in this situation that your supervisor was not. Call the authorities and let them handle this.

LadyBoss1:
Enjoy the rest of ur weekend takecare

Oh thank you. I will. Would love to keep com going though.. you don't think I'm an halfwit for writing this right? lol

LadyBoss1:
Ok sir ...
Good point

You're welcome LadyBoss, I'm no Sir, I'm just a young boy who likes your face. :d...Kidding have a lovely weekend

LadyBoss1:
Slapped a few myself

Yes if they dont like it they can quit

I am sorry to say, but it is important to know that there laws guiding labor in Nigeria. You have openly admitted to the crime on here and could be admissible in a proceedings against you and also a lawyer could decide to teach you a lesson because of your utterance here. Believe me, in as much lawyers look for big breaks, they do humanitarian works anything to land them in news and make them popular. You heard of Pro Bono cases.

Perhaps as an employer you should read the 1990 Nigeria Labor Act to help you understand how to treat your employees.

You could be held accountable for assault. It won't cost you much to just either correct them properly than making them feel inferior which the Magistrate hates too.

Play safe henceforth OK...Ciao.

Benedict44:
Good evening all...
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...I dont know the correct but i believe that you all can understand it ...
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A friend of mine called me this evening and was telling me how her boss slaped her yesterday at work just because he came to work late and another thing is that he could nt finish the work her boss gave him the previous day and the boss invited him to her office and after a small argument , she slapped him and walked him out of her office .....
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..Now he is planing to go back to her office on money and return the slap to her . His reason being that the boss is not the owner of the company that she is just the head of their department ....
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....He is very angry now and he is a high tempered person . And worst is that her boss is in the same age bracket with him....
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..Please what do you think i should tell him ...
....And is it good for a boss to slap a worker and if it is good , to what criteria....Thanks ...
....NOTE : Is company work ...
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MATURED ADVICE NEEDED ...

I hope my advice help

It is not justifiable to slap an Employee. Lets run a case study, just because a man marries a woman doesn't mean he can violate her right by beating her. OK lets have a closer look at something more flesh and blood. If you beat your kid, you can be held accountable at law for violating his right.

No one is above the law, your boss is only higher than you in position only within the premises of the office and nowhere else and also when you signed your agreement to work with the company, I want to believe it wasn't stated that employees could be physically or abusively dealt with when wrong. if it was in the contract you signed, then your claim would be justified only to some extent apparently not much, except you have a photographic proof of your face bruised from the hot slap. lol of which I doubt you had

Now, my advice to you is not to return the slap on Monday, but inform her that you would be filing a lawsuit against her for violating your Civil right or you would report to the Police and that your claim is she abused her position as your superior at the company and she physically abused you.

oh and one more thing, if there are no witnesses at the office, you can as well kiss everything I wrote goodbye, cos your claim would be invalid in court if no one witnessed it. That would give your boss the upper hand and they could claim that you're trying to make money off her bla bla..

Also, it won't cost you much to buy the 1999 constitution of Nigeria and know your Civil Rights and duties as a citizen of Nigeria or you can just read the 1990 Nigeria Labor act to help you understand when an employer is playing wayo on you and also when you are wrong too and playing wayo on your employer. here is a link if you want http://www.nigeria-law.org/LabourAct.htm


Ubi Jus Ubi remedium - Where there is Law, there is a remedy

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Firestar chan....Kimco...Hey Guys....Been a while

firestar:
Circumstances depicts that.
Nagato found siblings in the Ame orphans.
Karin probably had been orphaned too.
Kushina was sent to Kohona because of insecurity from Uzushiogakure.
Mito, who knows apart from the fact she was the first Hokage's wife and first Jinchuriki.
Naruto always wanted a home. I am surprised he has just 2 kids with all the Taju kage-bushin potential.

joystickextendr:
i think they are showing it on Thursdays now from 6 to 6:30 nt really sure but it isnt as interesting as the one way back in the 80's -early 20's

LOL. It cant be as interesting as it was back then. The tortoise in their storys are now NINJA's

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velociraptor:
check out this animation for ambode


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..... Sorry I had to remove my comments, since you know better. FYI, I gave a very good comment about your effort and I never stopped Animation or 3d designs, I just use it for different things.

icebeatz:
[(4 + 12/3-18) - (-11 - (-4)]

answer is -3

Wuuworld:
Which movie is that?....though we are nothing but pencil in the hands of JAH.

Dude you're hilarious. I already solved it anyway thanks.

My Wife and I are listening to a sound, at one point, the singer hits a not that my wife thinks has a wavelength of 0.16m. I told her this is possible, explain why?

ibe9ja:
The Op did not say if the phone was given to him by his employer in his primary post. To answer your question, if the mobile phone was provided by the employer, YES. Usually when employers give employees mobile phones for the purpose of work, the employees are made to sign some documents. Most employees sign without reading thoroughly and these documents contain clauses that give the employers the right to listen in and record phone conversations. Employees private messages in an employer's owned phone are NOT private (by law) and the employer has the right to view these messages.

EVen when you sign an Agreement, it is not in anyway right to track an Employee's phone. If the case is reported, there is a possibility of the company being sued which may include all the director for subjecting their workers to being monitored without the employee being a suspect to a crime or offense or the employee is not a certified citizen of Nigeria.

It's a violation of a citizens fundamental human rights. A company registered under the law must also consider these rights before entrenching it in their legal document.

Leopantro:
depends on the company he's working for, if the term was stated in the appointment letter and if the boss has easy assess to the phone.it's quite easy to do. some guys use it to trace their girlfriends when they have trust issues

lol. the case is whether it is right to track a workers phone with or without his prior knowledge. His boss is violating his right as a Citizen of Nigeria.

plaetton:
Companies routinely inform and do monitor and record use of company computers, Phones, ect, especially in finance or other sensitive jobs.
I am not aware that it is different for company issued wireless devices,given that there is disclosure.

Well, in this case, the person in question didn't state whether it's a company phone. He quoted, "My boss is Tracking my phone" It's is to some extent justifiable if it's a company phone, but if it isn't the boss is overstepping his boundaries.

plaetton:
The question is why is he tracking you?
What type of job do you do for him?
Have there been issues of theft or sabotage in his company?
And, is your phone company or personal phone?

He has the right track his company issued phones if he suspects theft or sabotage.
He has duly informed you, so you cannot accuse him of surreptiously violating your privacy.

His boss has no right to track to the person in question's movement. No matter what the bye-laws of the company says, the constitution supersedes any other law if it's inconsistent with it's provision. And as long as the person in question is not convicted as a criminal he has a right to privacy.

It is justifiable to accuse his boss of violating his privacy, and even if his boss has duly informed the person in question earlier and it has not being more than 3years. If the knowledge of is more than 3years it could be considered "acquiescence" But on rare occasion can his boss attitude be justifiable.

Threaten him with a lawsuit. He has not right to track you as a worker, provided, the agreement you signed didn't state anything relating to that or subject you to being tracked. It is partially torture and if he sacks you because you had to take care of personal stuffs and you didn't violate the bye-laws of the company, he has no right to track you. If you want to justify my opinion, it's in accordance with the provision of the 1999 constitution of Nigeria.

See section 35 subsection 1
which states that Every person shall be entitle to his personal liberty and no person shall be deprived of such liberty save in the following cases and in accordance with procedure permitted by law.

Also see Section 36 subsection 12

Subject as otherwise provided by this Constitution, a person shall not be convicted of a criminal offense unless that offense is defined and the penalty therefor is prescribed in a written law, and in this subsection, a written law refers to an Act of the National Assembly or a Law of a State, any subsidiary legislation or instrument under the provisions of a law.

Also See Section 37.

37: The privacy of citizens, their homes, correspondence, telephone conversations and telegraphic communications is hereby guaranteed and protected.


But if you feel the need to keep accepting that kind of treatment, You can ideally stay in one place during work hours sha..But if you want to proceed with a lawsuit, I can guarantee you can make a lot of money from the case. Just find a lawyer and tell him/her your situation. I'm sure they can represent you Pro bono.

If you find this helpful, just say Thank you..Ciao

Crocz:
Today alone and still counting

Do you have medical expert in these areas to check what is wrong with them. Speculations from forums isn't the best option to solve your problem. I believe considering your threats in any business is most important. i.e Immediately you plan the business, you plan the work of a qualified (Appropriate College degree) Avian Vet.

I don't doubt your effort here to get help, but it would only amplify your doubts and also upset your conviction of your business being reliable.

Having said that, I googled to see if I could find any Avian vet, none came up besides articles and institutions.

I will keep looking, if I find any, I will update it here