₦airaland Forum

mtisTheQubit:
Dont care bout your kingdoms..What i wan know is why so large inequality in South Africa..

and I want to know why the average Kenyan is 4 times poorer than black SAns

Shma:
You're blowing hot air. Who said makoko or kiberan dweller can't access basic amenities like education? It's how you plan yourself. amenities to cater for the poor are there. There is no amount of argument will dispute the fact that jorburg is overrated.

My respect for Jorburg has just dwindled within minutes of engaging a shackman.

there are no infrastructure in your slums like in ours...no malls, no schools, no police stations, barely any electricity

Mkenya2019:
Yes better slums. The best is eliminating slums. Which is only possible with economic growth. For slums is not housing problem but an economic problem.

The last 10yrs with economic growth less than population growth - south africa is generating more and more slums.

still better than Kenya bru

mtisTheQubit:
Dignity you say ..pwapwapwa

nobody said slums are good... Its just that our slums have better infrastructure then alit of your middle class neighbourhoods

Shma:
Where. Show me.

in your other screen shots my friend don't go ret@rd on me

mtisTheQubit:
Yes they are rich than boers...trust me on ths broh..

nope

Shma:
It doesn't matter if you know me or not. The fact that your man has already displayed himself with a low class structure called a house in Nairaland, gives enough prove to judge that 60% of the entire blacks in south Africa are poor than me, mitsi, Roan77 etc.

And my guy, on average, there are many South Africans living in slums as compared to Kenya. Let stats not deceive you. Maybe in south Africa, you don't concider this as a slum that's why you're deceiving yourself.

- It's a brickhouse with a tin roof, just like mine, it has electricity, satellite TV, Internet..... A slum is what 46% of you lot live in.

- again I don't know you, meaning you are just an average Kenyan to me.... And statistically you are 4 times poorer and twice as likely to live in a slum

- the great thing about stats is they don't lie and best part is the figures I got for the % of people that live in slums are from the same source

mtisTheQubit:
Average doesnt work like that..see a few might be extremely rich ,..which means majority are extremly poor..staying in shacks an stuff...na feel me now bro

Im talking specifically about black people, even poverty figures for black SAns is much much much lower than Kenya

Shma:
Forget about whites. Boers can't stand Richest blacks in Kenya, Egypt and Nigeria on average.

yes because Johan Rupert, Christo Wiese(maybe not so much any more after Steinhoff, Koos Bekker, Michiel le roux are not boers

Shma:
Your angle of reasoning is wanting. As a matter of fact, 60% of the entire black South Africans are not richer than me - going by approximation. I don't need to base on starts to come with a conclusion that the poorest South African is richer than the average kenyan. Update your thinking bro.


And south africa has just shocked me today. I never knew you have this magnitude of slums. It's so underwhelming.

population living in slums : 23% vs 46%

Also I don't know you, so to me you are an average Kenyan, meaning statistically you are 4 times poorer than a black South African and have a near as makes no difference 50% chance of living in a shack.....hence its ironic you calling any SAn a shackdweller

mtisTheQubit:
talking of Averages..i believe the average white english dude in Kenyais 10 times richer than a boer its all about numbers

Yeah I don't think so mate but good try

mtisTheQubit:
when will you post the SA you know. The one you talk about with your buddies when alone

WTF are you talking about?

mtisTheQubit:
To be honest i dont have any issue with S.A..actually i like the place an its people ...but the guy AfriqueDuZuid is different...Cuts me as a jealous type ...

Why would he be jealous of Kenya when he lives in a country which is more developed, richer and has less poverty?

And before you mention inequality let me just remind you that the average black SAn is 3-4 times richer than the average Kenyan

Shma:
The whole of this place is a slum. Mind you. This is a whole different area to what I previously posted. Still in jorburg.

Your country is a jungle of slums. No wonder you're a slumbolium yourself.

Schools, Malls, Roads, Electricity.....looks like paradise compared to Nairobi slums hell the infrastructure in our slums are even better than Nairobi middle and upper class neighbourhoods

mtisTheQubit:
@AfriqueDuZuid: coz ya itching on Kenyan matters without provocation ,lets have a look at the real SA

South African constitution allows self determination there is a Zulu only Kingdom as well

Shma:
You see this pic below? This is a jungle of slums. No angle will find any nice house.
Jorburg is overrated.

At least our shack dwellers have some sort of dignity by having access to roads with street lights, Malls, Hospitals, Schools ect ect yeah we can all agree poverty and slums are bad but at least in SA you have access to the same infrastructure that middle class have access to.

Shma:
Our best towns are upperhill, kilimani, westlands and Nairobi CBD. Your worst can't even smell kibera talk less of best towns.


See the jungle of shanties scattered all over jorburg. All the black folks find peace in this poverty ridden hood because they can move and steal Tvs and electronics to suit themselves.

Just in the screenshots YOU provided I see taxi ranks, Police stations, Schools, Petrol stations, shops ect ect most of your middle class neighbourhoods can't even compete not to mention the living hell that is Kibera

Shma:
Don't cry. I see you're trying to change the narrative. It was you who said you're going to post. Post it.


I will not post your slums, I will just post where the average black South African like you dwell - and of course the most overhyped places in jorburg . And I will blend it with your shack which apparently, Look pretty much better than the shack that I posted earlier.

SA is not heaven. Jorburg is dead as olodo. Jorburg is now more like an ancient city that was developed by boer. The rate of growth during the apatheid regime is incomparable to what is currently going on - when the blacks were given back power - thanks for the mighty Mandela.

It's time for Nigeria, Egypt and Kenya to take the lid. Boer will not build your country again. Zombie.

The average Black South African is 4 times wealthier than you!! don't forget that

Mkenya2019:
Organizing slums into neat rows do not make them any better. It's just make them look like communist era village or North Korea.

yeah but giving slums proper infrastructure like schools, hospitals, malls(that dwarf even your biggest) and police stations make them better

Shma:
This is how you're supposed to answer. But I beg to disagree.

I think the problem lies here.


https://www.epi.org/blog/black-white-wage-gaps-are-worse-today-than-in-2000/

Sorry bro I don't do blogs Now answer my question, why is it that YOU are so much poorer than the person you are calling shackdweller?

Shma:
Again, this is not the way questions are answered. You'll get a zero if you're not kin in answering questions.

lemme rephrase it for you. Out of 23% of population living in slums in your country, why are they all blacks or rather why is the figure high for blacks?

because the majority of South Africans are black!!

Now answer my question I'll wait

Shma:


Go on. Post everything. I will retaliate. I have a bunch of screenshots from your mighty jorburg slumbolium.

My bru we all know Nairobi has many more people living in slums than Joburg ..........Now post away!! like I said pics don't changed the facts on the ground

Shma:
I don't care about middle class. My main concern is poverty & black suffer. why are blacks in SA much more poorer than you. Why are majority of blacks dwell in slums.

If you tackle this, wel will move to the next point which is job pay gaps.

Why are Kenyan blacks much much much much poorer than South African blacks??

number of SAs population living in slums: 23%
number of Kenyan population living in slums: 46.5%

Shma:
But hope the point is home. You have your keyboard. You can hit Google for more pictures of your country. If those pictures happens to suggest otherwise on our previous submission about jorburg then we'll withdraw.

How Is "nairobi needs 8yrs to catch up jorburg" turning to stupid show of cherry picking? Jorburg is not that good anyway. I can hit Google to cherry pick all negative information and lay it here if that's the route you want is to go.

My bru?? have you seen the slums in Nairobi?? At least ours are planned with hospitals, schools and police stations?? have you seen the sh1t in your city?

Shma:
In south africa. It's either you're a black in slums or a white the places you're overhyping.

In South Africa the black middle class is bigger than the White middle class..............meaning it's much much much bigger than the Kenyan middle class

Shma:
As anticipated. Hobbits will join in to d*ck ride. these people are wusses that I've never seen. Mad respect to Nigerians in the room. I will forever stand with Nigeria in everything.


#public declaration.

Wow!!! you couldn't suck Nigerian d1ck more even if you tried....fvcking pathetic if you ask me

Shma:
How? Jorburg town is a slum itself

There is no such place in SA

Shma:
Jorburg slums. And the slum dweller himself.

Wow even Joburg slums look more planned then Nairobi.......

Mkenya2019:
They wrong. Just go back to Kenya in 2010 - what was her gdp- 40B - now it's 100B - do the same projection.

where is Kenya?

Mkenya2019:
They are main types of the roads
1) KENHA - main highways - they count and maintain theirs
2) KURA - main urban roads - they count and maintian
3) KENHA - main rural roads.

Those 3 are under KRB - Kenya Road Boards - and those are counted and maintaned by national gov.

4) Roads under counties - these are main streets - but not estate or roads to your driveway.

5) Estate roads - these are private roads. Before your plan is approved - you are required to show how you'll pave the roads.
For example - Tatu city has paved their roads - gov will not go and count those roads.

You do realize that out of the 200 000kms of paved roads in SA only 22 000km is controlled by SANRAL?

The fact that you said that your roads aren't counted is a flat out lie!!

Mkenya2019:
No problem. Kenya will still overtake ceteris peribus unless you wake up. Kenya GDP will likely triple in 10-15yrs to 300B plus. South Africa since 2010 - you're basically stuck btw 300-400B. It's called the middle class rut.

cool story bro.... Now where is Kenya?


https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/research-insights/economy/the-world-in-2050.html

Shma:
The emboldened is the figure back in 2017. We've done alot on road infrastructure during 3yrs. And mind you, jorburg is bigger in geographical size. We should also try to view it in that perspective. And by that I mean, if you could just give us the percentage of tarred road network for both jorburg and Nairobi, then your point will hold water.

You're just escaping the fact that Nairobi is catching up with jorburg in the near future. Jorburg infrastructural boom ended after apartheid. The black took over and the rate of development is as low as any southern African countries.

-Yes and the figure I posted for Johannesburg is also from 2017....and there have been massive developments and upgrades on its road network since then.

- Johannesburg is only 1600km2 and it has a paved road network nearly the size of your entire country.... I've posted the links just yesterday as well

- cool story bro and in 10years you'll still be blabbering about catching Joburg in 10 years