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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:04pm On Sep 15, 2022
Expert17:
SouthGate dey mad oh.

- No Rashford but called Grealish, Maguire, Coady, Dr. Phillips
Rashford is injured na and he won't be back till after int'l break
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:02pm On Sep 15, 2022
afrodoc2:
Our darling manager, Sir Ole. grin

Yeye guy.
grin grin grin grin

Tre.vor na very funny somebody grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 2:07pm On Sep 15, 2022
Santos07:
he will also add OLE as coach
Chai... How did I forget this?

In his words "my darling manager" grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 2:06pm On Sep 15, 2022
daveP:
Who else is tracking that Mudryk of Shahktar Donetsk? I think that's the perfect baller to make Saka rest. Sweet left foot. Can also play as a 10.


I think we need to grab him. January better be active.
When I watched only that guy's clips when we were linked to him this summer, Omo I wished we could just get him. His vision, flair, use of both feet and the way he moves with ball are things that made me wanted him and I had belief we would get him before the window shuts. Hopefully we'll get him in January, if not, with his excellent UCL performance he might just be bigger than us
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 1:48pm On Sep 15, 2022
kozmicity:
Tre.vor no go like am oo grin
Tre.vor go put Van De beek and Sancho grin grin grin

Na wotowoto the all-star team go collect grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera:
Expert17:
Even SkySport didn't drop him.
At least, person go know say na because Ronaldo na Baba(the prestige) naim make him name dey there.
Would have still be surprised if I see Martinez and Casemiro name there also.

The only person worth being there is just Bruno
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:58am On Sep 15, 2022
Expert17:
LiveScore Ambassador - CR7 will make their best XI grin
Okay, let's forget about Cristiano, what about Casemiro, abi him na Livescore ambassador too?

Thank goodness Doc don do justice to the bias cos it was too glaring grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 9:04am On Sep 15, 2022
Expert17:
Mixed.

Martinez over VVD on current form.

Ronaldo and Casemiro based on name
.
This thing just proved that na man u fan do this thing.

He just mixed it in favor of Man u players
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:13am On Sep 15, 2022
Mrviktor:
See that halland goal.

He just dey box 18.

Dem send d ball come he score

Simple.

No be d one wey una go expect roaldo to run box to box bks say una wan press.

When football no be bress
shocked shocked shocked

Person get only 26 touches for full match. But na praises dem dey sing for Twitter.

Make martial try am.. We no go sleep for this place
. grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:03am On Sep 15, 2022
Spy360:
Exactly. If we use Xhaka in a double pivot then it becomes a counter attacking formation. Which will be quite useful when defending against bigger teams may be after scoring first.
if we include Xhaka, then it'll turn to a 4-2-2-2 formation

That one na strictly counter grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:06pm On Sep 14, 2022
mostob:
Odegaard can't play such role...he is not physical enough. The day you play him in that role together with Partey, Partey won't last 30 minutes before going off.

What of Xhaka and Partey? Martinelli will drift infield while the LB overlaps with Xhaka covering for both.
Odegaard is acting as a 10(attacking midfielder) and not necessarily a pivot to Partey
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:22pm On Sep 14, 2022
airmark:
I never went berserk on him like this before just subtle criticisms. But when you people now started to talk as if he led the team to Ucl glory, brought his Uefa award and claiming the best in our midfield, that's when the wire cut and I needed to hammer on his defensive uselessness.

Tuchel was a fowl for not doing the needful before the season started.
Me too, I never went full defensive on him till I saw that his Uefa award is being tagged useless and was unfairly criticized reason I had to step in too.

Not like I really cared whether he must play for una or not cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 4:14pm On Sep 14, 2022
Arsenal Vs PSV scheduled on the 20th of October.

While our game against Man city have been postponed and with the hectic fixtures throughout this year, we might play that match next year.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 3:45pm On Sep 14, 2022
Lush100:
I am yet to see how that goal against man U vs R.Sociedad is a penalty.
That penalty should never have been given against man U.
The ref is based.
Ultimately an anti-brexit ref.

But then it's man U.

What u do in EPL will be done to you in uefa grin
Rules changes every day, me sef don confuse what is a Pk and what is not grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 3:44pm On Sep 14, 2022
Spy360:
His injuries and and sentiments apart, I prefer Ndidi to that DM role. Though as a CM Partey is better. However that role is not that of a CM but a DM.
if that will be the case, Odegaard work will certainly increase by 3 grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 3:40pm On Sep 14, 2022
airmark:
VVD and Kante were hailed by many top players that faced them and they confirmed their extraordinary abilities. Jorginho is an average midfielder who is lucky to have players shielding his weaknesses like forever. Kante and Kovacic's incessant injuries had exposed him well and if Zakaria doesn't follow suit, we can manage him until they get him out by January or summer.

Jorginho will survive in a possession-based team or a team with hulks available in the middle to cover for his annoying defensive frailties.

He is our player and will support him, but when it's time to say the truth, an Arsenal fan like you known for loving mediocrities should keep off.
When have majority of you ever supported him even when he played good game.?

If indeed you'll support him as your player, you won't bash his Uefa award he won calling him a carry along. Even Van dijk have gained more support from you than Jorg, so just skip that support part like you've ever supported him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:41am On Sep 14, 2022
airmark:
When Modric won it, he was the best midfielder in Ucl. When Van dijk won it, he was awarded the best defender in the Ucl too. But when it reached Jorginho's, story changed as Kante won best midfielder award in the Ucl. This alone should tell you that there was a glitch in the award given to Jorginho.

Those of us that watched almost all Chelsea's matches have better info on players' performances than you outsider clinging to Jorginho's awards.

When we are talking about extraordinary things, we are not talking about converting PKs. Kante carried Jorginho in that Ucl and Ucl fans know this. Yuropa fans should be quiet. Fact only.
He was top 3 in best Midfielders in UCL, that alone debunks anything that he was carried.
Made Tots in UCL and Euros, while your Kante couldn't.

This is his award, and he won it being as a starter and influential starter grin
Your dislike no fit carry am from him, the same way Dayo dislike for Van dijk wey no fit make am carry am from him too

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:07am On Sep 14, 2022
Spy360:
Exactly. It will be preferable when chasing a goal rather than starting matches. Also you made a good point about not having a suitable person at the DM position. Even Partey will find it difficult. We would need someone like Ndidi there.
Someone like Partey is even more preferable cos he can be able to kick-start attack from deep when we would want a quick transition, something an Ndidi type of player lacks. The only issue is that it'll give more problems and workload for Partey as he would ordinarily have and knowing how fragile Partey is, it'll just be a question on when and not if he'll join the hospital bed soon grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:47am On Sep 14, 2022
Spy360:
Playing 4-4-2 is possible and we have the available materials though at a cost.

The formation will require a sitting DM not the CM that will roam. It will also require a playmaker who can pick up the ball from deep and tight positions and still create chances. The wingers should not be inverted as they will be part of the midfield and not attack unlike the 4-3-3.

................ Jesus..... Nketiah...............
Saka............. Odegaard........ Martinelli
......................... Partey..........................
Zinchen.. Gabriel.... Saliba...... Tomi
...................... Ramsdale......................

This is an excellent attacking formation if the players (especially the wingers) can adapt to. It will allow for stronger pressing and massive defending without the ball, while totally dominating the opponent with the ball.

During attacking phase, Partey can drop into the CD while the FBs push higher to create an overload in the final third. During defending phase, Odegaard drops deeper to create a new line of defense, a double pivot with Partey.

Jesus can also drop deeper into midfield to hold the ball during transitions. Something he is already good at. He or Nketiah can take on the two opposite CBs and try to split them, drag them away from each other or the FBs.

The key to this formation will be Odegaard and Partey, can they be mobile enough to cover more grounds? Can the two of them be able to dominate a midfield in which they will be outnumbered?
immediately I saw your first paragraph and the formation proper the bolded was exactly what I asked myself.

But the formation isn't bad only that it'll make us lose control of games the way we'd love to. But personally, I'll prefer us to use this when we're chasing a goal instead of that 352 but I don't know if it'll be feasible.

All in all, the only person who can make this thing to work is Partey, any other person present there and we'll be screwed!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:39am On Sep 14, 2022
lordfalcao:
ever present for both club and country, playin more minutes than the people wey even carry am..

Some were even carrying him from physio room..

Nobi otumokpo be that?
Big time Otumokpo. Unless someone prove to me or show me any Balon d'Or or Uefa best top 3 nominees who were carry-along before or after Jorginho, I'll never ever believe that a carry-along can mount on any Uefa/FIFA podium
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:14am On Sep 14, 2022
airmark:
I didn't use only awards to hype VVD, he actually worked extraordinarily on the field to deserve it. For over a year now, you haven't spelt out the extraordinary things Jorginho did, that shows that he wasn't carried by Kante in the Ucl.

VVD stopped Lewandowski from scoring, he scored and assisted to get Bayern Munich knocked out in Munich. VVD stopped Kane in the final and again won Motm award for his efforts.

Stop bringing players that deservedly got their awards near Jorginho, if you don't want god of soccer to send thunder to fire you.
The same way you said Vvd did extraordinary things In the pitch to deserve it is same way I'm telling you Jorginho did his own extraordinary things too.

In Italy y'all claimed he's been carried by Verrati, barrella and co but in the euros they won, he has the — Most successful passes, Most forward passes completed, most tackles and most interceptions among all Italy players.

He won Motm Knockout award same way that Vvd won his and he's one of the best Midfielder in that Chelsea team alongside Kante. While Kante been the destroyer in tackling, he's the technical player who pulls the strings with his passes and this is shown in you guys domination in 1st leg Porto, games against athletico and games against Real Madrid.

This is what your best coach Mourinho have to say about him weeks before he was awarded: “For me, Jorginho is the best midfielder in Europe. The way he controls the game, how he recycles the ball in the transitions between attack and defence


And anyone who watches you guys UCL knockouts games will how you guys control games and how the transition from defence to attack was good and how Jorginho was always an ever-present player

You can hate/dislike Jorginho all you want, it's your personal choice, but do not discredit that award he have especially as you're a believer of awards.

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:18am On Sep 14, 2022
airmark:
Stop bringing Iniesta and Xavi near Jorginho after you failed with your Modric's 2018 move. All these players had things to show on the pitch of play unlike Jorginho giving back and sideways passes up and down, only to get bullied by unknown midfielders when Kante wasn't available.

Put Kante in place of Jorginho and you won't be typing epistles and getting water dripping from your nostrils just to defend him.
The Koko be say, the award wey you dey use hype Van dijk naim your Jorginho hold too. I support the van dijk stance because I believe in the award and it's same reason why I'm supporting the Jorginho stance too. You've not proved that anybody who won that award before or after Jorginho is a carry-along cos of the standard of how that award is. So it therefore means that Jorg can't be a carry-along

You can't use same high standard award to hype Van dijk then denigrate Jorginho using the same award, e no gel. If e easy, why no Chelsea player don carry am for the past 10yrs?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:11am On Sep 14, 2022
When full squad is back, A king will always be a king. Salah is back when his goons are back

Meanwhile, Mane is still carrying his new team with interceptions, clearance and ginger just the way he carried Salah and Klopp in Liverpool. embarassed

European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:04pm On Sep 13, 2022
airmark:
The year Modric won it, he was also awarded the best midfielder in the Ucl. The year your Jorginho won it, Kante won the best midfielder in Ucl award. Can you see the difference? When we told you people from other clubs ignorantly defending Jorginho, that Kante carried Jorginho in Ucl, don't ask for the wheelbarrow.
Jorginho came third in the "best Midfielder" category just only behind Kante and Kdb. I don't know how a top 3 nominee is a carry-along in all the lists of Midfielders that partook in that UCL.

This is just like you saying Xavi is a carry-along when he came 3rd in 2010 balon d'Or just because his fellow Midfielder iniesta came 2nd. Any fan without bias will know that Xavi and iniesta were the great Midfield lynchpin that year that's why both were in top 3.

Chelsea own dey different, Kante and Jorginho are both nominated in top 3 best Midfielder award and instead of seeing that as a validity that both were great Midfielders (just as Xavi-iniesta scenario), you guys are seeing it as Kante carrying Jorginho. grin
If he wasn't nominated at all sef, your point would have been better

This thing dey very very funny na grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 7:17pm On Sep 13, 2022
FirstbornWds:
He doesn't know... He no no our very own resident portable minister
Him still dey wait for verification?

make him still dey wait while money go dey pass am by. grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:16pm On Sep 13, 2022
airmark:
Leave past winners and talk about extraordinary things Jorginho did to merit it.
I don list them today already na grin.
What is the difference between how Modric won his and how Jorginho won his own?

I won't to know Why Modric own is generally accepted but Jorginho own isn't cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:14pm On Sep 13, 2022
Ibime:
If I mention my favourite carryalong Iniesta, some will assume Jogginghoe is even 1% of the player Iniesta is, so I won't. However there are many carryalongs that have won award.
Lol, nobody will call iniesta of 2012 a carry along na.

Meanwhile, I'm curious to know the many carry-alongs that have won any of the awards Tbh.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 6:24pm On Sep 13, 2022
Geld:
Oboy if barca win this night eeeh?...I swear I go gather money wait for your prediction grin cheesy
You still dey dull yourself?
Na wa to you oooo grin

Me wey cash out with Liverpool because of him
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:11pm On Sep 13, 2022
airmark:
Not anyhow awards and both must gel. cool
grin grin grin grin

E reach Jorginho time, Uefa and balon d'Or award don turn "anyhow" award cheesy

Show me any Uefa or Balon d'Or top 3 that was a carry along before or after Jorginho cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:45pm On Sep 13, 2022
drisham:
No dull yourself

Barca will win normally

But as portable don talk it is certain now
Lol, na the Koko be this. grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:40pm On Sep 13, 2022
FirstbornWds:
smiley
I don stake Barca to win laidis ooo grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:39pm On Sep 13, 2022
Ibime:
Emerson only played semi and final of Euros

The same way Emerson was able to win Euros is the same way a carryalong like Jogginghoe can win UCL and Euros if his teammates are the ones rowing the boat

A bridesmaid that attends two weddings should never be celebrated more than a bride that attends only her own wedding. As things stand, we can see the bridesmaid is no better than Ruben Loftus Cheek
Show me any other carry along that have either made balon d'Or top 3 or won Uefa best players award before or after Jorginho.

I'll be patiently waiting for your response cool

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