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Android22:
You brought up tinkering and stable first team and I said nobody judges that but performances.

it does and it's a big contributing factor. There's a reason all three of you guys representatives are sure starters in the midst of cut and chop system. I sympathize with Rodri cos I believe he suppose to make it 4.

Imagine that they have to even shift Cancelo to Lb position just because of Arnold and his performances even though Cancelo he played as RB most times. Now imagine that he's not a starter but coming from bench once in a while and starting once in 2 matches, do you think he'll have what it takes to displace a regular Robertson in that Lb position with the latter's performance last season?

I don't think so

AnfieldFan:
Maybe ask the players

Lol... Na now you come

Android22:
That was a point I was making aside, to show you ways Liverpool's number could have been reduced to show fairness.

Laporte should make that list over Rudiger. There is no data you can bring that can contradict this even when compared to VVD. They conceded the same number Laporte and VVD but Laporte was more accurate in passing and did it at a far higher volume. Then he also scored more goals if I am not mistaken. Rodri replaces Thiago as well and City will have 5 to Liverpool's 4 (considering Son should replace Mané if you won't select Mahrez who had a better season than Mané).

I don't think that's a given. Both of them performed well and even if you even check/watch deeper maybe Rudiger have more correct performances than Laporte last season. While team might help Laporte (clean sheet and all) but individually, Rudiger was a beast. Aerially, defensive-wise and even his passes wasn't slack. Nobody can dispute Rudiger name not being there. Lai lai


Mahrez is another reason why I'm talking about instability in team. Why will I choose/consider Mahrez as EPL team of the season when there a better performances from others elsewhere and sometimes he comes from the bench even if fit. It doesn't work that way bro

AnfieldFan:
See this..

Jo.dera

Yeah, even your previous screenshot did justice to it.

In that case, all the EPL players that voted smoked loud then

No how Rodri wasn't outstanding not to be in that team. I know thiago balled but Rodri also balled plus almost all his goals were instrumental to 3points and wins(which eventually won them the league), something I feel edges Thiago.

Android22:
That is part of my point: Liverpool had 6 to City's 3 yet City has 4 of the last 5 titles. How can it ever make sense?

Shey I just explained it to you na?

Abi you no see the answer ni? Abi you just no wan accept am

Android22:
Son should also make this list over Mané and if you must have Mané then Ronaldo should be taken off. That is in addition to Akwara nta hobbling off the list. lol

Lol, I/we are not even talking about other teams but why Man city player should/shouldn't be there right?

The discussion is whether Man city should dominate and which Man city player should be there and not whether which player from one team not called Man city should displace another player.

AnfieldFan:
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Then the players smoked loud too then. Anyhow, person must just collect that loud

Android22:
There were 6 Liverpool players on the team, and 5 from Manchester City. Liverpool dominated that list. If Rodri replaced Thiago, City would have dominated.

The tinkering argument is neither here nor there. The team of the season is based on performances. Bernardo was not suggesting all City players should make the team. He was saying the team that wins the most should have more of their players on the list compared to another team that won less or else you would have to explain why that other team was winning less despite having better performing players.

5 from Man city??

Bernado, Cancelo and Kdb. Who are the other two abeg?


And yeah, I know he said that not all of Man city players should be there but at least most. That's what I understood from dominate.

AnfieldFan:
Isn't the PFA Premier League team of the Year player voted?

Thiago was essential to our performance last season.... Infact, easily our most important midfielder, or maybe on par with Fab...

I don't know how that votes work but if it's true, then all the voters smoked loud in omitting Rodri

Spy360:
Aren't we also talking about Tielemans' chances of joining us now that Sambi looks so good?

It's both ways. I have just announced to you that Arsenal looks less interested in Tielemans even though he will be cheap. We now looking more at getting a 6 as Partey's backup because Lokonga will be playing as an 8 as backup to Xhaka.

Take this home.

Which 6 are we looking for? Tell me any names even if na rumor aside tonali which news have died a natural death as quickly as it came(whom I no even believe initially we'll even get sef and I gave my reasons here)

Mind you reports are saying Edu have already scheduled meeting with Leicester representatives for tomorrow concerning Tielemans.

I don't deal on emotions. You'll only be deceiving yourself If you think we're not strongly linked with Tielemans because of your love for Sambi but somehow strongly linked with a new number 6.
Number 6 wey Arteta don even dey comfortable for Elneny to deputise for Partey. I laff

Spy360:
Demand for a player can be used as a yardstick in determining his quality. You can't argue that.

On the bolded, are you sure you know what you posted there? That's for less than 7 games for a would be backup o. Had he been a new signing you would have been singing his praises. But then it's Lokonga. I know it's because of what I told you about he being far better a player than Tavares. Nor be so

While I don't doubt the bolded, but then there's also factors limiting too and it also sometimes doesn't tell the full story. Look at Son at Tottenham, have anybody bid for him? Even rumor, we never hear. Will you with your church mind tomorrow say Son is an average player?



And for the 2nd part, no you dey confuse both of us. 2goals 2 assists in 7 games is very okay for a Cm weda as a backup or not sef. Maybe I interpreted your "is it too much" wrongly that's why. Reason why I said he really impressed in preseason

donstan18:
Bro you actually saying it’s okay for Thiago Akwara-nta to replace Rodri in that DM?

Lmao! Liverpool and Klopp just dey enjoy the foolishness and sentiments of Pep’s enemies In EPL. Foolish Ex ManU players especially.

Lol, I didn't say this. Everyone knows EPL smoked loud in putting thiago over Rodri.

My point is that Man city players won't dominate EPL team of the season as long as most of the players aren't stable first teamers

Android22:
Like Rodri?

Bernado complained about them dominating EPL yet couldn't dominate EPL 11. Whether they add Rodri or not, it wouldn't still have made them dominate the 11.

I'm just giving genuine reasons why it won't happen anytime soon as long as Pep keeps on tinkering with his starting lineups.

Hope you get?

andrewbaba44:
Same team you will pick like 7 players who played more than 30 epl games ?

How many games Thiago play before dem put am for team of the season ?

I wasn't specifically talking about last season only cos it wasn't specifically last season Bernardo was talking about. Pep is always known for tinkering his players on a regular and you should know that'll definitely be a hindrance to be in EPL 11 mostly compared to other top teams stable starters

andrewbaba44:
We already know ,the English fa dick ride Liverpool on a steady since Man U is now very useless .

The biggest joke was Thiago alcantara making the epl team of the season .

Lol, I no gree this one

Man city is a team that's highly rotated compared to other teams. Why will a team that doesn't have stable first 11 be complaining about not being in EPL team of the season. Does it make sense?

In terms of coach not being given the best, I agree (that's if I decide not to even dig deep), but for the players lai lai

They should check themselves

Roland17:
Omo Ologo! The GOAT!

Whether him win or dem decide to cheat give another pesin, na him still win am…

If you don’t gerit forget aboutrit!

Omo, I gerrit ooo. Na him win am, I no wan know


But on a more serious note, if Saka no dey top3 ehh, na ojoro

KingAlabi:
I trust ETH
Na arteta we suppose dey yarn now
Second half against palace was an eyesore.

Away? It's first game of the season too

I'll be more worried if it was in our home like you guys.

Sha we still dey wait for ETH

Saka nominated for balon d'Or best player for U-21 category (Kopa trophy)

Congratulations to our boy : Sakadinho

Hale End to the world!!

Spy360:
J.odera check this out, it came out today

https://paininthearsenal.com/2022/08/11/sambi-to-milan-rumors-make-no-sense/

I've read this since and I'm impressed with his preseason games is one of reason why l said that he'll be a good squad depth but what will happen if arsenal gets Tielemans?

What you're doing is you denigrating Tielemans by calling him cheap or that he's not good enough reason why clubs aren't going for him. Like, isn't it somehow??
Everyone knows arsenal are seriously in for Tielemans and that's he's good and if he comes, Sambi is in trouble.

We're talking about possible Sambi chances if he arrives.

Spy360:
Arsenal has interest in Tielemans but he is not a priority. He is just a cheap option. Why do you think other clubs are not coming for him? Man Utd are busy disgracing themselves looking for De Jong when Tielemans is there.

Lokonga had two goals and two assists in preseason. Is it too much?

I never ever use this to guage whether a player is good or not cos different clubs have different needs at different times. I don't know why you guys like using the bolded most time even when you know a player is good.
And for you to think De Jong and Tielemans play similar role or Tielemans would play holding role at Man u is something that's even making me laugh sef.

And no, 2 goals, 2 assists isn't much for a Cm tho.

BlaqFaze:
To further clear your doubt...

Barca makes 167m euros per year in Laliga tv rights and the picture below depicts an Ac Milan fan trolling Barca.

AC Milan made just 74m euros in serie a despict finishing as winners...25% of 167m is 41.7m which means will still have around 125m euros of Laliga tv rights which is almost double what Ac Milan made as champions. The team that finished last in Laliga made 62m euros in tv rights money


Now, in addition, most teams don't have a dedicated studio..you can check if Arsenal has. Man u, Chelsea, etc don't own a studio. Barca created the company from scratch and selling 25% of it for 100m is a bargain. Barca studios doesn't even make much profit but english media are making people believe Barca is selling it soul .
BLM is another company Barca created from scratch.

Lastly, Barca isn't just a football club...mes qué un club....it isn't just a family as well. It's also a massive commercial entity with different companies running under its belt.

Lol, there's a reason why I don't listen to fans or pundits analyst on a crucial situation like this. Well, what Laporta is doing make sense now. Hopefully, everything works out right

Spy360:
If Arteta chooses to play Lokonga as the CM which he did last season then Tielemans will join but if as a right sided 8 which he did during preseason then he won't sign Tielemans. Lokonga performed excellently during preseason with dominance, goals and assists to show playing as an 8. Hence my doubts if we will still bring in Tielemans. What this has done is to create space for a backup CM for Partey. We may likely go for someone not yet known, probably about 25-30m worth.

So all these news about Arsenal being linked to Tielemans na wetin?
You no dey see am?

And then, with the 's' wey you add, how many goals and assist the Sambi have this past preseason?

andrewbaba44:
He should get out

Lol, a whole bellerin?? La Masia graduate.

Na wa ooo

Kilishihunter:
Yup, they're either coaches or club owners so we definitely don't know more than them, Afterall a club selling 25% of it's tv rights looks like suicide in the long run afterall it's hardly ever done, IMO bro some of this statements reek of either envy or plain ignorance, I mean last month a teleconference was set up to discuss and vote on this meetings, Everything was shown to the general public so when you see some kind of statements feigning ignorance it just throwing shots, it's crazy man
Bro we are defo gonna lose money, All Barca fans know, those putting out statements too know but the honchos that initiated those sales have mitigated the factors and risks before pulling it off, We are going to lose 5% of our total revenue but if the team stays competitive, winning trophies and attracting more sponsors to the Spotify camp plus bigger merch. Sales, the effect won't be felt like before
If we decided to go the la masia route to try and hit it big like in 2009, if it doesn't click we'll be left behind in 4-5 yrs and we urgently need cash to pay most of our debt that has been restructured to the long term, I admit some are concerned but others know and just want to throw jabs cause they can't afford to see a supposed fallen giant trying to make it's way back up so quickly, Paraphrasing sorrano's own statement, If one is not able to get bread today and becomes very weak how is he gonna get the strength to make more bread tomorrow
Im speaking as a barça fan bro so you may have noted diff streaks of bias but it is what it is, Sorry for the long epistle

Lol, I understand now sha. Hopefully everything goes well as planned

Adiwana:
We’ll be fine. The whole buzz about Barca is issue of wage bill which is the major headache not the transfer fees or the debt itself. Some of the debts have been repaid already and others have been structured to be paid in medium to long term.

Major headache is the wage bill. Bart gave out 300m+ in contract extensions to 4 players 1 week before resigning just to save 30m due to Covid. That’s where this whole problem is. We need to cut down that wage bill drastically.

Laporta planned to activate 4 levers but after activating the 2nd lever which is the sale of the Barca studios felt there was no further need to sell more assets. All was needed was to ship the dead woods to cut down the wages.

Problem is that a player like Umtiti can’t be moved due to his knee issues as he failed his medicals to move to Lens if I’m correct. Braithwaite is refusing to leave despite receiving 3x his current offer and wants to leave if the club buys out the rest of contract. Frenkie is also refusing to leave or accept a pay cut.

Also La Liga is not allowing registrations so Barca have to go ahead to activate the full levers as planned before.

All this will end at the end of the transfer window. We have a very good squad right now that’ll compete. If we win La Liga this season, it will make things much easier in other to ship out guys like Braithwaite and Umtiti and probably De Jong. I think we’ll be very fine

Hopefully, everything works out fine. Just watched a video clip Firstborn sent and I've now have clarity on how the plan is.

Bartomew do Una strong thing sha

FirstbornWds:
Maybe, this might explain better why it's happening.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNsRqVUY/?k=1

The thing is, Barca has a formidable fan base and Laporta is banking to generate revenues with big money signings. More so, winning the La Liga or any major cup ( the UCL or something close) would further improve the chances of buying back what we sold.

What we took is simply a loan that can be repaid ( some of which we have already done but the media doesn't show that). I'm pretty certain that Barcelona financial analysts have weighed the odds and communicated it to the socios before majority of them signed on the deal.

I've watched the video and I've understood the plan. At least it's clear now.
Hopefully, you guys bounce back to normal and everything just fizzle out and everything goes out as planned.

FirstbornWds:
Maybe, this might explain better why it's happening.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMNsRqVUY/?k=1

The thing is, Barca has a formidable fan base and Laporta is banking to generate revenues with big money signings. More so, winning the La Liga or any major cup ( the UCL or something close) would further improve the chances of buying back what we sold.

What we took is simply a loan that can be repaid ( some of which we have already done but the media doesn't show that). I'm pretty certain that Barcelona financial analysts have weighed the odds and communicated it to the socios before majority of them signed on the deal.

Okayy thank you, I'll look at it (video) and give my feedback

WhoDeyHause:
Don't mind him. He does not know his useless barka will soon stop existing in two years. All the money they wasted after selling their club will still be wasted and they will be bankrupt finally. It has always been happening.

Lol, but actually I'm not trolling and it's bants aside. Kilishi and most Barca fans know me for that.
I'm just really concerned esp as people who are in the same competitive business with the club are asking questions.

FirstbornWds:
Ronaldo family ehn...

I wan believe say na troll be this and no be really him Sister, if not Wtf??

Kilishihunter:
� Fernando Carro (Bayern Leverkusen CEO):

"In Germany nobody understands what Barça are doing, we believe they are crazy... What they are doing is eating bread today and then being hungry tomorrow. Very risky."

[@PlusBarca]
Lol, Every Tom, Dick and Harry seems more concerned about barça's situation than Barca itself, It's alright

For every top club's CEO, president and top level member to be saying such a thing about Barca, isn't it a cause of concern? I mean, don't you see it as one?

It's more than one or two top club member that have said such and to me that's ringing something in my head Tbh. If to say na nairaland analyst, papers or pundits talking all these things, I would have dismissed it without second thoughts but once people who also run top clubs are saying something like this repeatedly, then it means it's something new and strange and obviously cause for concern.
I don't feel they'll be trolling or insulting Barca at this point, they're too professional to do that — at least, my years of following football and its news tells me so— so it's very very concerning

Anyways, make I dey watch.

Nice one @ObaIgwe. More of these weekly pre-match analysis won't be bad


Gracias

Taguchi:
boss you lied that Man City brought Pep just to win UCL as if you're part of their board

I gave you the statement of an actual Board member and you're asking funny questions

what has stopped them from sacking Pep if he is not meeting their objective? they didn't hesitate to sack Mancini and Pelegrini

it's only in nairaland that a [b]Rival club's Fan will claim to know the objectives of a Rival Club than it's CEO

Wahaleux