European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 8:06am On Jul 21, 2022*. Modified: 8:33am On Jul 21, 2022 |
mikuz: 1. How is it easy to get 250k? Even with Lewandoski's legendary status, he didn't earn more than that amount before he left for Barcelona. Even at Barcelona he's going to earn 160k, so how is easy to get 250k for a 30 year old.Hold.He is also a big player going to a big club, instead of getting his salary doubled it was getting halfed. 
2. Take the last decade for instance. Real Madrid has won more CL trophies than any other club likewise Sevilla with the Europa League so going with your logic, Spanish league is stronger than the English League. No?
3. Which glimpses? Mane face Madrid in 2018 CL final and scored the equaliser. Diaz faces a weaker Madrid team playing from Mane's position in the final again and ghosted throughout. No be only glimpses na twinkles 
4. He no mumu for Liverpool. Na we no know him worth.
5. It's because he's tired of being paid peanuts that he opted to leave. He's getting old, it's time to jilt the passion and start cashing out while he can. He has paid his dues for Liverpool, it's about time he starts receiving the right royalties for his skills.
You said why should Liverpool keep Mane when they can sign Diaz, meaning he's a better option. So let's place them side by side. Why would you choose to replace a player still producing results because of his age? Lewy is 33, this means after he hit 30 for the past 3 years he has been producing results for Bayern. If they had sold him at 30 they couldn't have been where they are now. If Lewy can help Bayern win the Champions League at 31,why can't Mane do it at Liverpool? 1... That's because Lewy pushed to go and not that Barca made the move. That's different if a willing club makes a move for a player. Who told you Lewy didn't earn more than 250k? Lewy that was Bayern highest earner before his departure? You think say him agent na Mane agent?  2... I'm one of those who believed La Liga is better/stronger than EPL na. I've always said so since. EPL might be more intense, exciting and have more viewership than la Liga but the league have proved time and time again that they're better football-wise than EPL. It's not because I'm an EPL fan, I go see truth I no go talk 3.. Lol, this is clutching at straws Tbh.  Let's just pretend and close our eyes that Mane didn't feature against this "weaker Madrid side" and ghosted as well after the first 20min. Let's us just pretend yunno  If we're using your logic, then let's pretend that Diaz didn't win the 2 cups that klopp haven't won since he came to Liverpool but won it 6 months during Diaz arrival and his first season. Mane couldn't deliver a trophy during his first season. So can we call that glimpses?  4... You guys didn't know his worth yet he played over 250 matches in six seasons here? Interesting!!  5... Liverpool would have matched the 250k, so it wasn't a matter of paying him peanuts. He wanted to leave, he wanted new challenge, new environment and perhaps more trophies. Also there's a possibility he wants to be the king again after being under Salah periphery since  Like I said, this isn't a Diaz Vs Mane comparison. Liverpool had hopes to use both of them together just same way that they were using Jota and Firmino. The difference is while Firmino didn't push for exit, Mane did. They did not intentionally buy Diaz just to sell Mane but as squad depth and competition. So don't make it seem as if they use Diaz to intentionally chase Mane away. And oh, Lewy was not just Bayern best player but the league's best before and during his age of 30 reason why Bayern kept him. Can same be said about Mane too? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 9:08pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
mikuz: 1. The same agent who can't get Liverpool to pay Mane 200k in his prime is the same the same agent who convinced Bayern that he's worth 250k at 30? Which is more difficult to do? You think say na beans to convince top club like Bayern to pay 250k for a 30 year old?
2. Are we judging both leagues through the lens of the Champions League or we are laying them side by side. Tell me o . . 'cause I get a trailer load of points to counter that angle.
3. Jota was way better than Firmino, no issues there. Minamino can't replace Salah even in his widest dreams, no issues there but how do we prove beyond reasonable doubt that Diaz who is a JJC can confidently replace our club legend?
4. Even if you don't pay him 400k . . 100k is no good either. No way Bayern could have paid prime Mane 100k. Not Bayern!!
5. Ok you agree that Mane is worth up to 250k? What stops Liverpool from paying that to him. A labourer deserves his wages.
If you place Mane and Diaz side by side, majority will take Mane. Lol, it's easy to get the 250k na. What are you saying. Mane is a big player, going to another big club that wanted him. Obviously his salary will increase. No big player going to a big club(that wanted them) won't have his salary at least doubled. So Mane agent no do any miracle. 2.. That's how I believe one can judge the strength of a league. If you've any other criteria on how we can compare, you can bring it up let's hear it. 3.. Diaz have shown glimpses that he can perform in that role. He might not give Mane number or workrate but he might definitely bring something that can take Liverpool higher. Also, I believe this is the best time to sell Mane if there's any time he needed to be sold. Good clubs knew when to sell their players and bring new good ones to replace them 4... Lol, if Mane agent go Mumu himself for Bayern side, na even less than 100k prime Mane go receive sef  5... Because Mane said he wants to leave. And out of respect for his wishes, Liverpool obliged. Or are you saying Liverpool forced him out cos of wages? Mind you, this isn't a Diaz Vs Mane comparison, so it doesn't warrant placing them side by side |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:48pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: Dortmund only did fitness medical na ABI football club is suppose to run full diagnostic test You may be right sha Lol, I might be right and I might be wrong too. I'm just really sad when I read that news about the unfortunate situation. I really wanted to see if he's one of these late bloomers that will finally perform at a top league. If there's hope, I just hope he comes back better |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:37pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:37pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: ABI in ajax Dortmund bought him so I expected they would have found out about it during the medicals. I thought such a thing would have been noticed before dey sign. How did they not know he has such an ailment? Now the money wey dem take sign am fit just burn |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:22pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
iamoyindamola: Yeah read about it Feel bad for him Na wa oo... Didn't he do medicals at Dortmund? Hope it's not too serious and late sha |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:16pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
Iamoyindamola, your guy Haller is being Unfortunately diagnosed with testicular cancer. Sad, he might not play for Dortmund for some time. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 7:55pm On Jul 20, 2022 |
mikuz: Show me a striker who has helped his team win everything in club football being paid 100k.
No be only face paced EPL, na Cheeter EPL. League wey City dey win like water. In the past 5 years : Man City 4/5, Bayern 5/5, what's the difference?
Liverpool won't have bought Diaz if they had long term plans for Mane. You wanted to increase his salary yet you bought his replacement 1.5 years before his contact expiration, who does that?
Bayern are paying 250k for a 30 year old player they just bought. Imagine if they had signed Mane in his prime. Na 400k dem for dey pay him by now. They are not simpletons, they know his worth.
Liverpool were not ready to pay him more than 250k that's why he left. You are going to make Salah the highest paid player on the EPL yet you can't pay Mane 250k. No be so bros.
I hope we don't pay dearly for letting Mane go. 1.. Reason why I said blame his agent not Liverpool. There's a reason top agents like Late Raiola and Mendez are highly rated and there's a reason some people are sacking their agents. 2.. The difference is that Man city mostly win their league last day of the season unlike Bayern The difference is that in the past 5 years, at least an English team always make the last four in the UCL not named Man city unlike their German counterparts not named Bayern. That's to tell you the strength of the league 3.. Are you a Mane fan first before Liverpool or a Liverpool fan first before Mane? Cos I don't understand Klopp is trying to ensure that there's quality and squad depth and that's why they're Signings quality. Firmino was a first 11, but Jota was bought and with time he benched him. Minanino was bought but he couldn't bench Salah. Now they've bought Diaz and he displaced Mane to a new position. Why are you now making it seem as if only Mane was witch-hunted?  4... How many players have Bayern bought and paid 400k?. I'm not sure even prime lewy was given 400k in his first contract 5.. Salah deserves the 350k he's earning. I don't know why Mane presently deserve more than 250k sha. Don't worry about regretting. I no know why you deh disturb yourself. Liverpool is on the ascendency and while Mane will be missed, it's not too much the way you're saying it. If you do a poll here , most Liverpool fans will prefer keeping Salah and losing Mane than vice versa |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:08pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
Unlimited22: Saw this on Twitter and the only thing I'm sure of is that R9 starts.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:59pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
forgiveness: Which same thing with Falcao? Was Falcao 37 years old when he joined Chelsea? Nobody was interested in him when he came to Chelsea and he wasn't a hotcake again... Just like Ronaldo  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:14pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
forgiveness: 3 years after. Dani is a still a wold class player though.
Except Ronaldo is no longer a world class player to you Barca fans.  I agree with the bolded but will you be happy if your club signs him now? Would you call that a "pull" if your Chelsea signs him? Are you saying if I sign Marcelo now, it's called a pull because he's a WC player?  Fyi, I'm not a Barca fan, and while I will always regard Ronaldo a WC player, there's a reason most top clubs are distancing themselves away from him. 5yrs earlier and such a thing would never ever ever ever ever have happened. So na the same thing with falcao  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:02pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:01pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
donstan18: The disrespect on Suarez and Eto.
Start Suarez
Bench Eto
Trash and burn Delegbe Lol, why you just dey like diz  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:00pm On Jul 19, 2022 |
dostr4: Donstan food is ready Lol..  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:27am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Start one, bench one, Bin one 
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 9:12am On Jul 19, 2022 |
mikuz: Mane is the greatest Senegalese player to play in the Premier league. He's not the only candidate.
Mane is a 300k player, don't be deceived. If Timo Werner can earn 272k what more a more talented player like Mane. He got less than he deserved at Liverpool,that's a fact. You are confident that Diaz will win us the league yet you lack faith in Mane who has been tested and trusted. I laugh. 
What's so special about the EPL when Man City is running riot over there every season? They finally turned the almighty EPL to a one man show, winning it 4 times in 5 years. They even won it last season without a striker. So what's so special about the EPL again? Even if they bench Haaland and play Zlatan as top striker they might likely win it if we don't mount a reasonable challenge this term. More over, there is no much difference in the EPL last season and Burndesliga so how do you justify the difference in strength between Bayern and other teams?
Let us even forget the 300k. Assuming we offered him about the same amount Bayern are paying him now he would have still been a Liverpool player. 1... He's the "greatest Senegalese" to play. That one na for him pocket and him Senegalese people. He's a great player and a legend for Liverpool and one of EPL best players. Simple. Abi you think say Salah worth the 350k a week because "he's the greatest Egyptian to ever Grace the EPL"?  2.. I said call me any player in EPL that worth 300k and above let's see whether dem be average compared to Mane. Moreover, I told you wage structure for clubs are different so I don't know why you're calling Werner. A Werner won't see the amount in Liverpool or man city with their wage structure. 3. I didn't say Diaz will win league or not, I just said he have shown signs of replacing Mane so that you guys won't feel his loss that much. That's how a good club is run. 4. EPL is a fast paced league and it's a league that presently have the most of the current best players assembled by best current coaches at their prime. Meaning the best coaches currently who in turn makes great teams are situated presently in epl. You can't compare them to Serie A in any aspect at all where we no even know the current best coaches or crop of best players. That an Ibra (a striker) of 41 years is still playing there tells you how slow paced that league is which is convenient for guys like Giroud and others. 5.. Lol, you're seeing this through the lens of "Mane must stay at Liverpool at all cost" when even Mane doesn't see it that way . When Liverpool was negotiating deal with Mane for an improved contract, an offer came from Bayern. Mane then made his intention known that he'll want to leave and go to Bayern. Liverpool didn't even want to sell Mane sef but have to respect Mane wishes just because of the legend he is and all what he has done for them. So yes, I believe they would have reached a compromise at maybe 250 or so if not for Bayern's interest and Mane wanting to leave So don't blame the decision on Liverpool but Mane who wanted to leave following Bayern's interest |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 8:50am On Jul 19, 2022 |
Minemrys: Again, we don't know for a fact what his wages were. Mainstream media didn't carry it and Mane's PR agent already debunked it. Lol... If you say so  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:32am On Jul 19, 2022 |
forgiveness: Did Dani Alves make FIFA world 11 last season? Please, use your head. What are you saying? Did you guys sign him the very next season after he made the FIFA world 11? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 11:42pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz: No be emotions, his records speak for him. He was a legend at Liverpool, you cannot take that away from him no matter what you say. Na you dey even talk with sentiments the way you are selling him short. For example which of the records did he not achieve at Liverpool? Is he the only Senegalese player to grace the EPL?
Quit with this talk about Mane being 30 that's why we sold him please, e no gel. Oliver Giroud was 35 when he transferred to Milan, he went there and delivered the league to them. Diego Milito was 30 when he moved to Inter Milan,he came and delivered the league and Champions league. There are many other players over 30 out there who transferred and excelled. As far as I'm concerned, I don't think age will stop Mane from delivering too at Bayern.
Bayern did not buy Mane because Lewy was leaving, they bought him because he was a legend at Liverpool. He is a quality player and a complete footballer. Besides there are many strikers willing to play for a top club like Bayern, yet they went for Mane. There is a good reason for that. Last season Harry Kane played 37 games in the league and scored 17 goals, Mane played 34 and scored 16, but Kane had a good season but Mane should be sold because he had a terrible league season.
That Mane doesn't post Salah numbers should not stop him from earning 300k. He deserves it. Most players in the league are not half as good as Mane yet they earn twice as him.
I don't wish anyone failure bros, just calling a spade a spade. Datz all. Lol .. 1.How many Senegalese players played in Liverpool aside Mane?. Maybe one or two and the only person I know is Diouf. So even if the total is 3 sef, do you see that the sample is small? It's just like saying Salah is the best Egyptian to play in Liverpool when obviously he's the only candidate 2.. You're shouting 300k for Mane. This is for high standard players. Would you give someone 300k just because he's a legend and not because of what he's expected to offer? Only Salah merits that presently in Liverpool and that's fact. Meanwhile, give me players in this EPL earning 300k lemme see. I'll be waiting 3.. Are you comparing Serie A slow paced league to EPL?. Giroud can go and shine there at 35 or so, but he can't try that in EPL. Even Mane will shine in bundesliga seeing that he's in a best team and the disparity in strength between Bayern and others is very very high. Same can't be said for Liverpool and EPL where one needs to up his game every week Finally, I'm not disputing Mane legendary status. I support Liverpool for not giving Mane 300k solely because; he's a legend, he's the best Senegalese player, he scored fastest hattrick and bla bla bla. There's more to that to worth that amount especially in a club like Liverpool who have wage structure |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:20pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
raumdeuter: Imagine a defender named Blind dey play and Ake dey bench  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 11:19pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Actman05: Ask popi first.  lol... If Popi na Abrahamovic, Chelsea for turn the old ladies of England  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:32pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
raumdeuter: You never answer us, Was Ake injured at the Euros even when VVD was away in the hospital. Blind defenders even dey bench am You don choke am for neck, he wan come use diversionary tactics escape  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: 20 Times Champions of England! by Jodera: 10:26pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
mikuz: - Fastest hatrick in the Premier League - Liverpool's record scorer away from home in the Champions league - The Senegalese player with the most goals in the Champions League - Premier League record - the first player to score in nine consecutive league games against the same opponent. - Second player to score away hatrick in CL.
A prophet is not recognised in his home town. This disrespect for Mane is disturbing. A club legend?
He asked for salary increase, you did not only reject it ,you went ahead to buy his replacement and pushed him from his natural position to accommodate his replacement. If that's not disrespect then I don't know what it is.
Bayern have given us a sample of how a club should treat a legend, they are not only going to pay him more than twice his salary at Liverpool, they broke their transfer policy just to sign him. Diaz can not replace Mane even with age on his side, anyone who tells you otherwise is playing himself. Time will vindicate me.
Liverpool no try abeg Football no dey do emotions. They're always doing what is best for business. Contracts is based on expected potential and not past records. In fact, some of the records you talked about wasn't even done in Liverpool while some he made it by virtue of him being a Senegalese player. So na all that things dem go look if dem wan dash am 300k? Because of emotional sentiments?  Bayern needs him cos They're losing Lewandowski. Liverpool is shrewdly selling a player at the wrong side of age (30yrs), while getting a good player in Diaz. You should be happy that you've a player for the future instead of being stuck in the past with Mane. And yes, Mane wasn't at his very best this season before being drafted to CF. He wasn't also even great last season as well. I don't know why you feel Liverpool should give him 300k. The only person deserving of that amount is Salah and rightly so. That doesn't stop him from being a legend or one of Liverpool's best players of this era Just wish Mane success and wish your Diaz and Nunez success here too. It's that simple |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:14pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:11pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: U dey buy Jersey with player name on top 
I always buy the Jersey plain and have it customised right there with whatever name and number I want.  I'll get the customized jersey then. When I was in uni then, most jerseys sold around the place I bought always have players name imprinted on it. Well, I guess I know better now. Thanks |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 10:04pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: Yeah and make god of injury be merciful to us as well, make we no get injury crisis at crucial stages of the season Amen ooo... Amen  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 10:03pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
forgiveness: Who can make FIFA world 11?
When did he make FIFA world 11? 2012
Does that make him world class?
The reason epistle you wrote doesn't add up.
Point remains Falcao was a world class player before joining Chelsea. EOD So If you sign Dani Alves now, you'll claim Chelsea pulled a "WC" player?  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 10:02pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
Lana1: Pep is obviously better than ETH. But Arteta no near either of them. He should stick to his level. That Ole and Lampard level I go see the level wey Eth dey this season sha. I no fit use Ajax stint judge am esp as him predecessors aren't world beaters when they upgraded clubs |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:55pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
forgiveness: 2012 FIFA world 11. Joined Chelsea in 2013. Yet Falcao wasn't world class, right?
Falcao past his prime after he left Athletic in 2013? A year after he made FIFA world 11?
Flop or not, [b]was he a world class player before joining Chelsea? It's like saying Messi is not a world class player because he flopped at PSG.  He made FIFA 11 in 2012 na when athletico won Europa plus super cup. Had an average season in 2013 at Monaco no thanks to ACL injury. Flopped a whole year at man u that he was demoted. You guys loaned him as a flop with an option to buy yet you guys still didn't activate the option. Still flopped in Chelsea To the bolded, I dunno how he was WC in his prime when you loaned him after flopping at man u sha  At least Messi wasn't a flop at Barca the season he was moving to PSG. Falcao was  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 9:51pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
andrewbaba44: Falcao past which prime ?
No thanks to that long term injury
Man didn’t flop at Monaco abeg Lol, person wey Monaco loan for 2 full season, even giving Chelsea loan with option to buy yet Chelsea refused to buy him after the loan. At man u I think he was even demoted to their youth team. Like I said, he wasn't a world beater when man u and Chelsea (esp the latter). You can call his ACL injury as the issue but that doesn't negate the point |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:11pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
KingAlabi: Trust me
You might end up watching united more than arsenal, if you set your eyes on ETH footy. Lol, Are his Ajax team that beautiful? The few UCL match I watched, it was just there. It'll take a whole lot for me to enjoy Eth more than my Partey-inspired Arsenal  A whole whole lot |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 7:06pm On Jul 18, 2022 |
AYNL: tuchel a prodigy to klopp?
c'mon,you don't mean that,do you? Lol, na just banter. No take am serious Just said so cos they coached same club in Germany |