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andrewbaba44:
Someone that has 9 champions league goals and about half of them was from PK

So hazard with Chelsea has exit from the ucl group stage more then once ?

Interesting

Not more than once. Just once

Just a sarcasm to show that he wanted to go to Europa to win it as Chelsea's parting gift

hensben:
I didn’t say he should start, but should be introduced if going get tough since he understand how to deal with liverpool. Ancelotti would’ve done that if they were chasing a lead, it is called tactical mind game.

Ancelotti would leave his trusted wild card in rodrygo to go for hazard who have 1 goal all season??

Are you not funny?

hensben:
Hazard just came back from injury after a successful surgery, have you been living under the rock.

Lol.. so you didn't know this when you clamoured for him to start? Like start??

donstan18:
Read below..





European finals....

5-man defense

Hazard.... 2 goals and 1 assist

Ignored The top European nights to start showing me this ones? Lol.

So hazard na Europa League levels? Glad to know.

Andrewbaba come see evidences o.
The only final hazard can body is a Europa League final, conference league and European conference league

No wonder the only UCL he won, he was safely glued to the bench in all the important matches
No wonder Chelsea won UCL just before his arrival and after his departure
No wonder he had to exit from UCL group stage In the first season of Chelsea to win Europa League as a welcome gift. Then he also exited UCL group stage in his last season to win Europa League as a parting gift to Chelsea.

That's why you can't show any top European competition in which he excelled against a compact defence. Europa League standard.

Well done bro

andrewbaba44:
Even Jesus Vallejo and Mariano Diaz was more crucial to Madrid that hazard

I swear, .

Dem no talk about hazard when Madrid was slugging it out against psg, Chelsea and Man city. Immediately e reach final, dem remember say hazard na star player wey deserves to start over Vinicius or Valverde so that he can take all the glory na .

As per monkey go work baboon go chop na....

andrewbaba44:
I guess it’s neymar fault that he has done well for both Santos Barcelona and Psg

When Barca won the champions league Neymar was tied on same goals with Messi and cr7 ,all on 10 goals each ,I guess he didn’t help the team and was hiding behind and was carried by Messi

What can you say about the champions league hazard just won ?

donstan18:
You’ve added “Top gun”

Same you said any high stake European game, i brought out an European finals your club started with 5 defenders and still got destroyed by Hazard.

The player Niles, that faced him got 5.2 rating.

Lol... I didn't say that bolded.

I explicitly stated "against a TOP European competition in a high stake match".

Europa League wey be 5th, 6th and sometimes 7th placed team with an addition of 3rd placed team in UCL is now a top European competition??

Tuale for you!!

BlueMann:
Okay...by compact defence you mean sitting deep, I get you now

Yes exactly what I meant

hensben:
He actually scored in that super cup which went to penalty shoot out and anything can happen from there. We can not because of one tree call a place forest.

You see why I said you didn't follow the discussion from its genesis. You just jumped in because you heard hazard

donstan18:
So 5-man defence no be compact?

I'm honoured you take arsenal as one of the top guns in European football and that Europa is a grade 1 European competition.

I'm really honoured

donstan18:
Imagine waiting for 13 years to make your first European finals, all to get destroyed by Hazard.

2 goals and 1 assist.

9.3 rating.

Why you no go hate am.

Against a 5-man defence, maybe this one no be compact, na compact plus.

Lol... Of course.
Once one can't back up the trash he spewed, the next thing is to go personal or attack the counterer's club.

As usual

BlueMann:
To be fair, Hazard did score in a super cup game against Bayern the next season.

Or am I out of context?

You're out of context bro. And that's because Bayern didn't play compact defence or defended deep against Chelsea in that final

I wouldn't have brought this hazard argument or so if Popi didn't say that hazard would have done better than Salah in that Madrid final when Madrid played compact and defended deeply.

Reason why I brought matches in semifinals and finals against teams that defended deeply and hazard was found wanting during his time at Chelsea. Hope you get my point

donstan18:
Even Messi no get goal and assist in high stake and compact defence match.

Tor...
Forward your answer to Popi then

hensben:
Hazard just came to chelsea and you expect him to lead chelsea to another ucl. Be reasonable.

Super cup nko??
Dem ban am too??

hensben:
Hazard was the second best player in the last wc. To make ucl is mostly team effort and chelsea were struggling in Europe then due to the squad became old and rebuilding was needed and secondly poor signings. Hazard uel against Arsenal which was his last game for the club.

Lol... All these one na Tori.

Chelsea won UCL 2012.
Hazard was signed that summer immediately.

The first big compact defence he met was against athletico and he was there when Chelsea was thundered 4-1 in a final.

He met same compact defence 2yrs later and he was thundered another 3-1 in London in a semi final against same athletico.

He met another compact defence against France 4yrs later in semifinal WC and be was lost 1-0.

He couldn't score or assist in any of the match but you, don.stan and Popi believes he would have done something against real Madrid's compact defence.

In fact, Chelsea finally won against athletico in a high stake match (2020/21) after hazard left.

No be jazz??

andrewbaba44:
The hype no be here

Big time hype.

I still dey wait them to help Popi bring evidence say hazard of Chelsea would have breach that Madrid's compact defence unlike Salah as he claims

donstan18:
Did you say Hazard dey ghost when games gets tough for Chelsea?

It’s clear you’re trolling

Lol... I see you want to divert this discussion to another discussion entirely.

My argument with Popi is simple.

He claims that Hazard will break the Madrid's compact defence if he was in place of Salah in that finals especially if he had that Chelsea form(which is a high stake match)

So I showed him two teams which he played semifinals which they had compact defence (athletico and France). Mind you I didn't bring another high stake match against compact defence in athletico 4-1 defeat in uefa super cup oo.
If you know any high stake match in which hazard had a goal or assist(q/f to final) in a very compact defence, please show me.

Context: High stake match and compact defence

hensben:
When did hazard ghost in any tough game for Chelsea? You are just saying nonsense with confidence. We didn’t play ucl final when Hazard was here, he beast Uel final against Arsenal which was his last game for us.

Lol... I see you didn't follow the beginning of the argument between me and Popi yesterday.

hensben:
You are the one clowning. Hazard destroyed every big team in epl. Neymar is an unserious and ball juggler with skill, he is not better than Hazard professionally at their peak. He rode on Messi’s talent to achieve team trophies while at barca, the genius assisted 75 percent of his goals that season they won ucl. There is a reason he adore messi, he gave him his best season in football till date. Whereas, Hazard was the messi of chelsea, I.e, he creates, he was the driving force of the team and also scoring and assisting in epl, not surprising he had several injuries and underwent surgery after moving to Spain.

All wetin we dey always hear na "hazard did this in EPL, hazard did that in EPL". Like I said, dem ban am from doing such in top European nights like UCL, euros or world cup?

Same hazard that has Costa as striker, fabregas as Midfielder, Kante as dmf, mourinho and Conte (two of the best coaches generation of their time) yet he couldn't cross semifinals. But na neymar and Salah wey dey instrumental with their teams reaching the finals Una Sabi open mouth to dey criticise abi?

donstan18:
Chelsea vs ATM

Man of the Match.

Had a assist.

Maybe ATM dey play highline.

Lol, so that's a top European night abi?

Exactly what I said earlier(below). He never ever does such a thing in any hot European nights, only group stage or EPL where the stakes are considerably lower. I see how you dodged the 2014 semifinals against athletico to come show me group stage .

Jodera:
If he's that excellent as you're rating him, why hasn't he done any spectacular to reach world cup or euros or UCL final? Why didn't he prove it against the best of the very best in Europe? Why is he always doing it in England or group stage where the stakes are considerably lower compared to hot European nights?

Always ghosting when the going is tough but his fans will be hyping him like one Messi or Ronaldo.

If he can't do it in semifinals against compact defence, how then can we believe he'll do it in finals against compact defence?

donstan18:
Highest rated striker and attacker between both teams, maybe I’m suppose to believe he didn’t play or create well to rank first in a match that had 28 shots in total.

Oga if you believe am, then help Popi and bring his goals and assists that ensures that he can do such against compact defence when he met one in a semi final as against Salah who can't?

Shey hazard Sabi score or assist against compact defence. Bring one he did in a top European or world cup night. Simple.

Popi no care about rating, so nothing concern me with Popi about rating in this case.

donstan18:
Second best player between both teams, only Bolasie topped him.

Second best player?

So that's the rating that made Belgium not to qualify against France to finals in a world cup?

That's the evidence that Popi was saying Hazard would have done if faced with compact space? No goals, no assists, no big chance created as an attacker, just ratings and insha'Allah??


Are you kidding me?

popizaino:
Hazard in full form is the closest to messi and Ronaldo,even Cesc Fabregas who played with both messi and hazard was able to compare him to lionel messi and believes he is close to him.I prefer not to speak on the match against france because i can't remember everything that happened in the match but it was never as compact as this Madrid's team in the finals. Hazard in his usual best forms thrives in tight spaces,klopp pattern doesn't leave spaces inbetween for any opponent attacking players to thrive in but I have seen Hazard on countless occasions been able to find his ways out from such pattern stiff other attackers from expressing themselves.Lastly salah was too limited in the other night and was forced to take hasty decisions.

He saw compact space in 2014 against athletico, he didn't thrive. He saw compact space in 2018 in France, he didn't thrive, what now made you think that hazard will thrive against this weekend Madrid? . If Hazard as you claim can thrive in such pattern, what happened against Athletico in 2014? I guess you'll be able to remember that since you're a Chelsea fan.

If he's that excellent as you're rating him, why hasn't he done any spectacular to reach world cup or euros or UCL final? Why didn't he prove it against the best of the very best in Europe? Why is he always doing it in England or group stage where the stakes are considerably lower compared to hot European nights?

popizaino:
I wouldn't want to continue so as not to further reveal anything about myself,but you see this real Madrid in 2013,I predicted it right from the summer,you only think it was an easy prediction due to hindsight. Wasn't madrid in competition in February the previous years before then too? I still remember vicidly well how people were telling me how they will never be able to because they sacking Mourinho whom many think only had what it takes to win it with them was the last straw for them and how Bayern Munich will be stronger with Pep Guardiola. Abeg let forget matter,something way my brother been dey use dey ask me for betting tips back in 2015.

Lol .. no problem. Make we forget am.

I for dey ask you for tips if to say I dey bet

andrewbaba44:
Na hype nah

Hazard is not even on neymar level yet some clowns here won’t let us hear word

Na so him talk say hazard knows how to play against klopp ,day light clowning at its peak

Since man city lost against Madrid that dude lost some nuts from his brain ,brain is now filled with Enugu FUFU

Nahhh... This wan don pass hype na. This is entering into another level of what I don't know.
Hazard is a good player during his time at Chelsea no doubt but the way Popi and hens.ben is taking him, you'll think it's one Messi or Ronaldo at his prime.

First it was Klopp should kiss UCL goodbye if hazard starts and ancelotti should start hazard if Madrid wants to win the UCL. We still dey battle that one then and now this?
Hazard that haven't even been instrumental to any top European competition win. Wasn't instrumental in Belgium reaching final in world cup or euros, not instrumental in reaching final in UCL either with Chelsea or Madrid. But somehow, we should believe he'll do better in final over people who were instrumental in taking their team reaching those finals.
E gel?

Abi dem ban am from taking his team to any major final wey no be Europa so that we go see him god-tier mode?? Na wa oo

mostob:
The earlier Arteta starts seeing Tierney and Partey as backups, the better.

Hmmm...

popizaino:
Saturday match between Liverpool and real Madrid proves why I have always said as a manager I will always prefer Hazard ahead of salah any day. By Hazard I pmean Chelsea hazard. Look at how salah performed when there was no space inbetween the lines,I don't want to imagine what the hazard i mean will do to that madrid defence even in the absence of space.

Are you blaming Salah, the only bright attacker in that attack (esp the 2nd half) for the loss or what?

This is someone who forced 5 crucial saves from courtouis and If not for the latter's god-mode form, Salah will definitely carry the day.

What is it with this hazard sef that is warranting this talk like say na Messi or Ronaldo him be? What magic did hazard perform in 2018 world cup when France limited the space for him to operate on? How many key passes, shots on target or big chance created did he have?
I'll be waiting cos I believe say na Chelsea hazard be that

popizaino:
Lol.

1.First and foremost my comments are monotonous even on this thread,so you will notice a pattern in the comment and writing style.

2.Moreso,No one has to believe,but if you check the profile picture with the other ones I posted about defending Salah and carrick you will notice it's the same person. so you mean I will lift someone's else comment from somewhere and try to be this inconspicuous i did by cropping out my name ?

3.And to the bolded part,is there any time real madrid didn't come out from group stage if you backdate from 2014 to the last time they won it in 2002?

1. Sorry, I'm not so good at noticing patterns in people write ups. How guys normally notice that is a wonder tbh

2. I didn't even check the profile picture cos it was too blurred. Moreover, I didn't say you lifted it from somewhere. Just that such vehement claims needs proof that it's you, else it's unnecessary.

3. Madrid always comes out of the group stage, but it's easy to predict who'll win it as the competition advances. For example, man u this season, with the addition of Ronaldo, varane and Sancho, a fan can predict that man u will be among the last 4. By December, story will change. It'll be difficult for same fan to maintain such prediction by February with the kind of stupid form they displayed prior to that month. That's what I meant.

Another thing is that it's a prediction. Everyone knows prediction is never certainty that can be bragged with especially with the weak tone you typed that

iamoyindamola:
He won the league also, I stopped alerting you so you won't feel bad ni

Lol... You sure say him no go goal drought?

Anyways, he's not my striker. Even Giroud will fare better there just like tadic and Daley blind

potland:
They say van diyk doesn't mark. That he hides and leave his co defenders to do the dirty job. Klopo and silentgroper is that true? Popiziano, bluemann, raum, airmark, hensben, jodera, donstan put mouth

wetin dey to put mouth for here wey others never put mouth finish

Android22:
If I predict that Bayern will win the Bundesliga next season it means I know football. lol

Lol... I don't just understand.
Even the quote was a weak prediction not that he was even sure(like he vehemently meant it). I dunno why he's using it to form knowledge

popizaino:
When Real Madrid announced Ancelotti will take over from Mourinho in 2013,I predicted them to win the UCL,such that I wasn't even aware i told my friend who was a Madrid fan.The way some of you know the outcome of Election that is how some of us also know the outcome of football.

Lol... Oga, how we wan take know say na you and "your friend" be that?

Moreover that's 2014, when they're already out from group stage.