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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 7:21pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
You are being sarcastic. But mention one club that improved after Jan TW. undecided

tongue tongue tongue

I win. Apologize and be forgiven. cool
Lol, you're joking shebi? Even our man u comrades will tell you what Bruno inclusion did to them.

Prove to me with all reasonable doubts and I'll highly proclaim you win. grin
E no dey hard me to accept my wrong. My agidi no strong laidat grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:12pm On Apr 19, 2022
afrodoc2:
cheesy

You be yahoo boy. grin
I'm innocent o, doc grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:05pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Now what I dear us happening
People now dig further into the girl's life
She's a minor FFS, the video won't stop spreading
Exactly. See how the guy's parents calm down, nobody is talking about them. But everyday so so one issue or the other about the girl.

Even adult will be affected by this, how much more her
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:02pm On Apr 19, 2022
Godx:
Why are you guys trying soo hard to ridicule her story when the boys confessed to it and where expelled?
oh, the boys confessed to the rape and drug ish?
I've not read it, can you show me a link so that I can read up?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:00pm On Apr 19, 2022
Odunharry:
I'm telling you. The one he said she passed out dey burst my head..

It's jus like the story where a girl raised false alarm that some guys were abt to rape her and she posted the address and phone number of young innocent guys.
The family of the girl had a meeting with the police and the boys were later arrested. Don't have update about that incident for now.

They are all trying to pass blame to the boys and free the girl from any blame. Who knows if the 13 year old girl hasn't been taking substance too?
That one of last week sef dey one kind.
Why will a girl share real phone number and address for such clout chasing if true
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 6:22pm On Apr 19, 2022
Odunharry:
This.
All these "cover up rules" will be setting up the girl for drags.

How did they get the drugs to lace her with? I mean how will kids of 10-15yrs beat Dubai airport security with such drugs? The way the guy dey talk, him don forget say no be naija dem dey again

So the girl was so naïve or what to believe charger was in bathroom? I mean bathroom of all places to charge phone? And she carried her 2 legs there?
grin

When did she borrow them charger and when did the assault take place? If it was during the day, who allowed her access to the boys lodge(surely chaperone or porter will ensure both genders can't enter the opposite sex room). If it was during the night(probably she sneaked), is it not baffling? Moreover, doesn't she have friends that she can borrow charger from pending when she sees the guys the next day abi Dubai too dey lack light like naija? grin

Storyline gone bad!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:42pm On Apr 19, 2022
raumdeuter:
I am sure if you look around your friends while growing up, there were some who were treated similar to how you were treated and they ended up being far worse than you.

Actually in the same household with same treatment one can turn to a priest and one a yahoo boy. There is not one particular treatment that guarantees good behavior. If you take them to church, if you take them to shrine, if you flog if you dont touch them

I have a friend whose dad was a chain smoker but he never smoked in his life
True words. But my point is just the impact

My point explicitly is this for example, If you train up 10 kids to view girls as sex object, there's high tendency that 8-9 will imbibe that while one won't imbibe such training.

Same way a parent will train their kids in the right way but one fit still spoil along the way. Because of that one that spoilt, should it mean that all parents shouldn't train their kids the right way because "kid wey go spoil go spoil"? Personally to me No!

So that's how I see moderate corrective flogging alongside other forms of good discipline. Granted all kids won't still feel that impact but at least the probability of raising good disciplined children will be higher than if you don't do it.
Afterall, even Jesus wey get 12 disciples, one still be thief amongst them

That's just my point
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:34pm On Apr 19, 2022
Kimbeast:
Let's not go round and round in circles but please don't hit children.
peace! cool
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:29pm On Apr 19, 2022
raumdeuter:
But Flogging does not guarantee good behavior from kids. In my time almost everyone was flogged, not mild flogging but severe flogging with canes, wires, cable anything and we still had wayward kids in my time. There were girls who started having sex as early as 10yrs, some even got pregnant despite being flogged

I remember a girl our senior who got pregnant around JS3, the father brought out cutlass that he would kill her, The mother that was crying before when she saw cutlass na she dey hold the father back
Sure, I didn't even mean only flogging, that was why I emphasize on moderate corrective flogging and that goes a long way. They are different ways to discipline children and personally flogging is one of them. It don't need to be severe flogging for kids, yeah.
In fact, it's children whom are excessively flogged that even tend to be wayward becos that's part of their rebellion.

Reason why I said too much/indiscriminate use of everything (not only flogging) is termed abuse and it's bad. But the action itself is not
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:19pm On Apr 19, 2022
Kimbeast:
Was never expecting you to come and out openingly admit being scared of your parents. Even the Nigeria kids that fear their parents will call it respect due to the culture and environmental factors they grow up in. I just have one question. Do you flog your spouse for corrective reasons?
Lol, whose person example should I use? Yours? grin
Don't be funny

As for the bolded, Are spouses children/kids again?

If you think one form of correction cuts across all stages of life growth then you should have a rethink.
No one way leads to the market. That you reach your market destination no mean say my own market destination wrong.

As long as the goal is to raise up good and disciplined children, do what you feel best while I do mine. I mean, life no suppose hard pass that one shey?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 5:04pm On Apr 19, 2022
Kimbeast:
Any amount of flogging despite the intention is wrong and should be termed as abuse. Most of the things you call respect in Nigeria is usually fear. Children fear and not respect their parents to avoid getting flogged like an animal.
Bros I was moderately flogged for corrective reasons and I never grew up to fear my parents but fully respect them. If you wish not to touch your children at all, them that's your choice. I'm sorry if you knew anyone who was being flogged like an animal cos I see you repeating those words. No be so flogging suppose dey.

No be every flogging be abuse but if you feel otherwise, good luck to you. Afterall the goal na to train up good and disciplined children, so anyway you deem it fit to achieve that, congratulations!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:53pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Jodera I guess the mother recently watched a new series on Netflix anatomy of scandal
What was a consensual sex suddenly become rape.
After God fear women they throw that word 'rape' casually not knowing it can ruin man for life
Lol, I swear. Na wetin dey vex me for the reports be that. Shameless mother
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:50pm On Apr 19, 2022
CAPdan21:
Omoh If we go down this route e go reach 10 pages so mk e just rest there...d bros even carry dictionary definition come...
grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:47pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Forget the mother some people are naturally shameless
She as shown she's not fit to be a mother
[b]The boys should be expose too, at the moment the girl don't know what she's int[/b]o
I believe the girl's momsie na slay Queen.
Actually I pity the girl cos as Young as she is, she's in limelight for something negative way bigger than her. She might not know now cos she still too young and all these things was caused by the momsie and the senseless journalism brandishing rape..

It'll do one no world of good for the guys to be exposed. In any case, they should look for ways to make that girl publicity and video to die down. All these digging of the little girl's past to me no be am. She's still to young for all these things
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:36pm On Apr 19, 2022
Kimbeast:
Flogging and abusing your child does not lead to respect or them having sense. It leads to them fearing you and dreading your presence. That's one the sign of a terrible parents.
Excessive flogging and and abuse(injuries and sort) can certainly be termed child abuse I agree. But mild flogging with the intention of correcting certainly goes a long way keeping your children aright.

And no, a child only fears parent(s) who excessively flogs them and without justifiable reason too.

Anything done Excessively and indiscriminately is bad and can be termed abuse. That does not mean the action itself when done moderately is bad
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:22pm On Apr 19, 2022
CAPdan21:
You are turning the meaning of child abuse on it's head...
Lol, I was going to quote him before I saw your response.

And then we wonder why most children of nowadays no too get sense and respect.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 4:04pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Still where are the boys nothing have been said about them all attention has been on the girl
When the girl is made as headline, the girl's mother came out to talk about it as rape case and on two separate clips na the girl dey do the activity, I think it will be normal for the girl to be talked more than the guys.

If it's a film, surely the girl will be the lead actor.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 3:54pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
grin grin grin

You see, you are the one who does not take things into perspective.

The summer and winter windows are not the same. Summer lasts from July to August ending, and the season ended. So player movement is very easy and there's time to negotiate deals.

January window is right in the middle of the season when most clubs would be unwilling to lose their players. Deals are more expensive and the time for negotiation is very short especially while still trying to prepare for matches.

Do you remember short and long break in school? Or midterm and long vacation holidays? Na the same thing?

I do not personally regard the Jan window because it's just a time for makeup and not upgrading.

Just like you said we did good business in the summer. We have to wait for another summer for more good businesses. If the club fails to upgrade in the next window, then I will gladly call them out. For now, I have my thinking caps on.
While you make good points but the bolded; I see where you're coming from. You don't rate January transfer window at all.

To other fans and club, January transfer window is important but to arsenal as a club, it's not.

No wahala grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:59pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
Probably what you do t get is that you think sale or purchase of players under contract is as easy as buying bole from Mama Chichi. My brother, make we dey reason well o grin
Okayy, o want to know your opinion.

Assuming we're in summer Tw. So if our first choice striker and Midfielder says dey won't come to arsenal because we're not playing UCL (maybe we unluckily missed out). Will you be happy if the club says since we've missed out on them, let's rely on Nketiah and balogun as our top 2 striker's and rely on our midfield depth as it is?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:52pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
Last season we only rallied towards the end. This season we were close to beating Chelsea to third place. That's an improvement we all attested to. How is it that we forget so soon? Two injuries and someone is comparing us to last season that most deemed a failure? Na wa o.

I am not happy with the state of things, but we must channel our criticism correctly. Replacing Partey from outside would be easy, but doing so within will always be a huge task for the manager and players and I do not expect them to complete it in two matches.

You guys can cry and whine but those who run the club know how it pinches.
I'm not saying we've not improved. I believe we are and I always stand by it.

My main grouse mostly is the January transfer window. I'm not even critical of the summer transfer window sef, na this January own they pain me.

You can say the club knows where it pinches than fans but then even them knew they fvcked up in the winter transfer. We were gunning for something worthwhile and the best they could do for the team is to handicap the team?
Nahh!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:45pm On Apr 19, 2022
Akinbahm:
His method of Amala turning is not from this World. E don port to mental strength, before end of season he will port to physical strength.
Lol.. Suddenly na psychological strength.
God knows I won't buy that excuse for this our recent results cos it just seems like a lazy excuse without any logical fact.

It's like someone who is failing in exams and the reason he gave is that it's his village people around him that's making him fail grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 1:40pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Partey FC
Partey and psychological fc grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:37pm On Apr 19, 2022
BlueMann:
You and who seal am? cheesy
grin grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:36pm On Apr 19, 2022
Odunharry:
if not for video evidence, a lot of people would have been calling for the head of those guys as we speak. The mother clearly dont want to believe her daughter can do such stuff. It is also sad she came out to scream rape when she doesn't have sufficient information about what happened.

Most parent are truly negligent. Even though some will argue the phones and tab they get for their wards are for educational purpose or even the kind of cartoons/programme they allow them watch, but a whole lot is going on in the mind of the child if not well supervised.
True. It's just so sad really.
I mean 10yr old girl. I really blame most parents. If you look at children now, the way they talk back at their parents and how insolent most have become, you will know most parents have failed in their parental duties. Then if things goes wrong, we'll Start seeing how school and society have failed the children.

While I believe it's not easy to raise good disciplined kids nowadays, but then nothing good comes easy and even good children too. Notwithstanding God's grace too
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:28pm On Apr 19, 2022
Emaprince:
The woman just dont want the shame that comes with being a failed mom. She failed woefully..just like many other parents. She don't want to be pointed at as the mother of the teenage harlots. Lol . She deemed it right to claim rape to exonerate her daughter from being labelled spoilt at early age.

I haven't seen the video..but fro. People narration, its clear the girl have mastered sex in and out. With the reverse cowgirl she was giving them boys, I suspect she might be the one spoiling and teaching those boys sef. Undoubtedly, women spoils young boys who are normally late in sex experiences. Women tend to spoil quicker cos they mature quicker.

These things have actually been happening in our times. Difference is no smart phones and social media to expose it. In my sec school days, I had a female class mate that was bleeping about 5 or 6 guys then. No they weren't running a train on her. Every dog just had his day. I have over heard them telling one another like " na you get today na...you go enjoy wella". This is real life experience. What happens is : the girl visits them one after another daily at their parents home o...and they have sex. My 5 and 6 pal was one of em. I have been with him while the girl come around. It will seem I am a party pooper at that time..until I leave the they will get down. Parents are away to work. Neighbours will just feel na classmates so nothing dey happen.

This shit will only get worse with smart phone and social media. .celebrities posting nude pics. Women claiming its my body..I can do what ever I want with it. Look at what they post on tiktoks. When these youngings have smart phones, you think they will only be making calls with it?lol. Last week Omotolas daughter posted her self in bikini with that big beast tongue and thick laps.. shocked.. what will the young ones learn from her? Abi you think they don't see it.

I dont expect this to stop anyway..rather it will get worse. Its the world we are in now. Its a Liberal word. And any criticism from you..they will ask you to cast a stone if you haven't sinned before. Lol
All what you said is so on point and the bolded really summarised everything.

People who will ask you "what concerns you, is it your life" will later form holy when things go south. And that's the reason this world is here today. No social media just illuminate am.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:38pm On Apr 19, 2022
BlueMann:
I meant comot tongue
After we don seal and deliver am with amen??

Ogbeni boss it cannot be reversed grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:33pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
What's shocking to me is that the agenda never look at the table of points. But they must make their point even though they know it's pointless.
do you know we're on the cusp of finishing in worse position than last season if we continue like this.

And yeah, the reason why we're in this table of points presently is because of the goals scored which cancels out the goals conceded that makes our point higher than last season.

Midfield and attack speaking grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:30pm On Apr 19, 2022
Spy360:
You need to watch the highlights of that match and tell me if not for Foster, we would have won that match.

Its just that time is of big essence if not you would see that these same set of players will beat all those teams they lost to once they get used to not having Partey.

I have seen that match over again and can tell you categorically that their problem is a mental/psychological one.

Time will tell.
1.. That was a very poor Southampton side
2.. we only upped our game in 2nd half When ESR came in bar Saka missed chance in first half.

Again, I noticed you don't put things in perspective most times (no disrespect here please). We fully attacked them when all our attackers are in the pitch (Nketiah, ESR Odegaard, Saka Martinelli). So yes, we're throwing it all since nothing to loseand they, they're absorbing pressure since they've already gotten what they wanted( the goal). We can't start matches with all our attackers you know

This was same way you felt Sambi played a fine game against crystal palace when we were losing 3-0 and palace retreated in pressing since they've already gotten what they wanted.

You can say Psychological issues all you like but this season this team have played better with Tierney out, Saka out, Laca out, Xhaka out, Tomi out

The only time our play is lacking psychological tendencies na when Partey no dey dey available. Haba na cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:21pm On Apr 19, 2022
Akinbahm:
Anytime you stated things outside their claims they termed you “agendist”, I remembered we told them if you have 2Van dirk as CB with Xhaka shielding him upfront and same Xhaka shielding erratic Pepe, aesthetic Auba, LacaNogoal, young Saka and Martinelli it’s very certain Van will chop lots of goals (it might not be embarrassing as that of Mustafi crew) but with time it will get worse pass Mustafi crew if attention is not channel to other departments.

Last season introduction of Smith boosted us, this season injury free Partey boosted us and gave us small hope for Top4 now Partey is injured and everything fell again.

Gabriel was injured we didn’t have much issues like that of Partey injury should tell us where Arsenal problem lies exactly.

A proven DM as Partey back up and a prolific Striker in January TW should be enough to strengthen this current squad to reach Top4 with ease and help prepared for next season ahead. Spy was at one time justifying the act of not buying any player in Jan TW as a good decision since our target failed to come smh.

I dey happy with our losses maybe it will make we fans to be more logical.
That bolded was 100%. That's what at least was really needed to scale us through this period.

I dey suspect say Spy dey among the board members. Na only him dey understand wetin this board dey do cos e surprise me say the Tw was talked more about our players leaving instead of expecting players coming and people didn't see issue with that grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:13pm On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
Then Leno start him own with pass from back way your defenders they fear to collect ball instead to buude he must pass which will lead to goal
grin grin grin

Like you said now, na new defenders we need in Vvd and Ruben Dias grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 12:11pm On Apr 19, 2022
Akinbahm:
Forget agenda bro, it’s vivid for the blind to see. Without being sentimental Arteta tried with the defense department but failed woefully in other departments prolly because of media ranting about our woeful defenders.

Have forgotten the monicker here that always writes epistle on how Xhaka usually makes players around him better, another monicker engaged in logically why Xhaka needed to be replaced with better player but my guy still remain on his stance. You raised the issue of having Elneny, Xhaka, Lokonga, Ode and Partey as senior men in Epl cheesy we still have a long way to go.

We cited lots of reasons why that midfield and one or two players in forward needs overhaul before that defense but you were adamant on your claims the defense should b addressed first, here we are with the result starring at us in picture attached.

If am in for agenda saga, I should be trolling you, spy and 2 other monickers have forgotten their names after Jan TW

Any team that want to beat Arsenal should just have two deadly forward and 2-3 players that will constantly pressure our midfielders for full 90minutes.

I’m still on my stance if Arteta manage to secure Top4 this season I will start supposrtjng his project fully.
grin grin grin grin

Me I go still dey talk am, na that January Tw kill us. How the board, edu and Arteta thought that our players won't have injuries/COVID to some first team players was really bold of them. Very very bold and it was glaring.

Anytime after match day I always look at the bench and reason, if indeed we're looking for goals or key someone had injury, who will replace in that Midfield and attack?
only ESR is a worthy Sub Specifically for just attackwise or for direct replacement for Odegaard if Odegaard have injury.

But you see dem Elneny, Sambi, Pepe. They never inspire person at all.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 11:59am On Apr 19, 2022
50d33q:
I Dan talk am before we need new set of defenders
Shebi these ones get luck play with player like partey
Mustafi was playing with xhaka and Leno
If Leno no pick stupid pass, mustafi will slip or xhaka will commit.
Xhaka in midfield while mustafi/sokratis and luiz in defence grin

Leno try no be small grin

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