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mostob:
It's about partnership and team structure. White and Gabriel were called up to their national teams because of their performance but since Partey got injured, they have become ordinary. Rammy was behind only Elderson in he race for golden boot but baba don swallow 6 goals in 3 games now. Everything boils down to Midfield...If your Midfield is balanced and solid, even Maguire will win best defender I. EPL.

Exactly the bolded. Thank you.,
but if we talk dem go shout agenda must agend

I just have to write what I wrote and if it favours Midfield, fine. It won't stop me from saying it how it is.

50d33q:
Haha they lost the entire defense, then the midfielders are the one playing defense.
Lfc no lose only vvd, the season went down because the midfielders that was protecting the defence were now playing defense
Make we post legit stuff

Exactly. Na Van-dijk propagandists naim go dey talk say Liverpool slump last season was because of his injury. Now it's circling as truth.

People wey las las make top 3 with freaking Nathaniel Philip and kabak.

BlueRayDick:
Is arsenal the same as city that has 1 billions pounds worth of players in its books?

Arsenal that signed Martinelli Nobodynho just, signed pepe just to pay his sign on fee over a number of years, etc..... U expect that arsenal to be compared to City àbí?

The problem I always have with most arsenal fans is they fail to see the decline over a number of years beginning from Wenger's later years to the present and they expect a miracle to happen such that arsenal will compete favorably with their "contemporaries"

We were all here when teams that were not near the traditional top4 were building up for the future and our board was slumbering busy doing business Koreonke way. Now we suddenly expect a rookie manager to buy all needed players within a year or two and compete with the so called "contemporaries"

Is that playing? What sort of playing is that?

Why are you countering me bros na .

I think this should be directed to Spy not me. I strictly talked arsenal but he said Man city had same Psychological issues as us and suffered but quickly recovered cos of their quality in players.

So hence my question to him ... When did it happen to city cos I don't seem to remember.

BlueRayDick:
Lolz. If Van Djik was fit will the coach use midfielders as CB? Especially when he signed a CB in January....Will he still use Fabinho as CB if Van Djik was fit between January that he signed a CB and May when the league was completed?

he was using Gomez and Matip in CB positions and they were winning matches and topping table. They lost momentum when both Matip and Gomez had injury and Midfielders was drafted in their place.

That's different from you saying ONLY van dijk had injury and their season spiralled down

50d33q:
I thought every player in the squad is replaceable
Why are we losing

Lol, na here I dey wey I bring Partey as example but they say anybody can replace anybody afterall no be under structure we dey?. Now it happened, e don turn to "Partey na our best player so everybody must be down" like say na Partey FC.

I brought logical reasons why our team is floundering, the least that could be done is to bring up facts maybe formation wise or sort on why it's not due to Partey's quality dem dey shout agenda. Like who gives a hell about agenda when our team is failing?

BlueRayDick:
Loserpool lost Van Djik to injury last season and their whole season went down the drain. That's loserpool that had more quality players than arsenal o.

A struggling arsenal lost partey our most crucial player and Midfield wins u league agenda ressurects on Easter Monday. No be juju be that?

This is false. Liverpool lost van dijk in Oct abi Nov and they were still in 1st or 2nd position even at January. Their downward spiral started when the lost their defensive line which made klopp started using Midfielders as CBs.

Spy360:
Isn't it enough that when you lose your best player, be it in attack or defense, it's going to affect the whole team?

If I tell you that the problem of this team is not personnel but psychology you will not accept. This team is mentally affected by the loss of two good starters. Hopefully they will get over that mental block and find a way to push themselves into winning again.

When Mostob brought his formation options, I told him as it stands the major problem is not formation but mentality. I saw that clearly. This was what also affected City, though they cope better because they have other very good players to rely on.

When did it affect City?

OVA200:
It's bad for him because that will be a loophole to undermine his greatness by CRITICS.

I don't doubt them talkless of troll but I think that's what their greatness cost them.

Nah, critics will always be there but that won't stop him being one of the greatest players in the world. Nobody wey no get critics.

Na so e be bros

Bombblacks:
What dues has he paid to Psg and their fans?

What he does in psg won't undermine his greatness as one of the best footballer the world have ever seen.

His paid his dues in football, unfortunately for psg they haven't seen has best yet but that won't still undermine his greatness

OVA200:
Yes you are right but I don't write off both of them sha.
Those guys live to shut critic up.
He fit drop back to back hat trick now.
If he do am good for him if he doesn't bad for him.

Lol, even if he doesn't do it, I don't see how it's bad. Him don pay him dues be say him don pay him dues, same with Ronaldo. Anybody wey wan troll dem na OYO

50d33q:
Have told you before we need more defenders
These ones have join mustafi crew as clowns

You know say na you and spy dey mostly bring this wahala shey

OVA200:
It is difficult to find someone that will be civil and truthful in an argument; everybody will try everything possible to win, as if their is a trophy for the winner.
Some even went as far as parading fake stats and the most horrible thing is still trying to defend it.

Any truthful person will know Messi is a better football player than Ronaldo (Being better might not make him the GOAT).

Any truthful person know Messi have flopped massively in ligue 1.

Any truthful person will know Ronaldo is having a better season than Messi (Season never finish though).

You can live with those truth nothing will happen.

Facts!!! 100%

The only thing be say season don end for am. Nothing wey Messi fit do wey him fit score at least 10 league goals.(I pray make him read am tho come prove me wrong )

BlueRayDick:
Make everybody just dey submit their agenda. Na the time be dis ....It's that time of the year

Lol, it's an opinion boss. I no drop am for any agenda(weda na DWYL or na MWYL ish). But if you have contrary opinion why arsenal is failing you can post yours.

I strictly talked about the root of arsenal failings and possible solutions, no use agenda eye read am

50d33q:
This is another reason I won't forgive wengay
We were to sign kante but he got us fvcking xhaka

if your own na only because of Xhaka, then you try.
Wenger sins for my side plenty ehh, I no fit talk

50d33q:
You see why midfield is the main focal point to any successful team
I swear majority of guys here no know ball na manage we they manage.
I don't understand how person go look arsenal over the past 5 years and tell me na defenders we should invest on

Nawa o
During carzola era we have the worse CB combination in mertersacker and Kos, guess what szy(another useless keeper) won the golden globe
The midfield pair was le cow and carzorla

Lol, I've always known it's midfield and attack that help most teams at least become stable, but that's not why I brought the piece sha. I just brought it up to show why arsenal is really misfiring in all departments and no suitable quality isn't at our disposal making the hole Partey left too too big to fill and the possible solution to save our season. Sadly elneny na another minus 1.

God bless that cazorla coquelin partnership. I've never enjoyed any midfield partnership like that for a long while even tho it lasted for just 6months. Na after that I know say Wenger na bad belle wen the next season he pushed coquelin to play advanced role and Xhaka dmf . Since then we never smell top 4

Correction tho, the keeper during that partnership was ospina not sczcz....

I still dey wonder how we thrived with mertesacker for years knowing how snailish he was . I swear, I mertesacker dey this team now eh, na cricket scores every week we for dey count

mostob:
Did you watch the FA cup between Liverpool and Mancity?
Pep put Gabriel, his only striker on the wing...Foden wey dey play false 9, he put am in Midfield, Sterling and Grealish were both rotating the CF and LW. City were just so disjointed.
Maybe that's where Arteta learn his oversabism from be that.

Na dat oversabi make pep put Steffen instead of Ederson. While I agree players needs rest due to fatigue or exhaustion, but resting your keeper?? Against Liverpool for that matter in a semi final match

While I don't blame the GK for the first goal, but everyone knows he's at fault for the 2nd goal and I believe he would have done more for the 3rd. So that's two goals been gifted to Liverpool.

As for Arteta, the guy is not just tactical esp when losing . Do you know that since his arrival in 2020, we've not won a game when trailing by half time in EPL bar wolves?

I watched Partey's play highlights for this season yesterday night (strictly this season) and I found out why arsenal as a team where totally dependent on his quality either knowingly or unknowingly and while no one of our DM or Cm have half of his qualities to at least mitigate for Partey's loss

Here are my findings:
1.. Partey moves ball quickly to the final third. He already knows who was where and who is in more threatening position to pass the ball to. He also gives the perfect pass to that attacker to launch attack. Contrast to Sambi who takes 2-3 touches and at slow paced before he'll give a pass, giving the opposition players ample time to regroup

2.. Partey is a rock. He's so solid at the tackling as well as interception. His positional awareness in that midfield helps to kill opposition attacks before they fully become dangerous as well as aiding in counter attack with inch perfect through pass. Contrast that with Odegaard who wasn't good positionally with his awareness when playing deep and Sambi who's not rock solid in terms of tackling and interception and we'll wonder less why our defence are facing clean cut pressures when they pass through that midfield. Less said about Xhaka who isn't exceptional at tackling or quickly pushing attack.

3.. None of our DMs or CMs are good at dribbling in tight spaces or under immense pressure. This is something Partey does effortlessly and on a regular. Any of our deep midfielders who encounters such either falls to ground under any slight pressure or pass back to the defence or sideways. This safety-first football kills any potential attack that may have resulted in goals.

4. Lastly, defence splitting pass to free attackers In a packed midfield. Partey is fond of this very well, esp his disguise pass. Sadly none of our deep midfielders (either Sambi or Xhaka) attempts this regularly. If ever they give forward pass, then the attackers have 2-3 defenders to beat because obviously the slowness of the passes have made the opposition regroup.

And then we wonder why our attackers are going missing in games when they no be mane or Salah. Or our defenders are all over the place because the midfield aren't rock solid as before. Who also noticed Saka and martinelli help their fullback more these past 2 matches than before?

The solution is for Arteta to switch formation to maybe to 3 at the back for more defensive and midfield solidity then let's ride our luck with the attack with 1 or 2 odd goals. I've tried to see how 4 at the back can help us but with the midfield base of Sambi and Xhaka, it'll be hard cos both are slow in transitioning attack (even though Sambi is slightly better than Xhaka in this regard) and both aren't good tacklers or interceptors nor can both beat press effectively

Sadly na only 3 at the back fit help us now(my humble opinion).

kodded:
after partey injury, the team became so disorganize.

Nobody want to take responsibility again.
Mehn arteta has lost it

I tell you.
The team is playing as if nothing is at stake again cos I don't just understand.

No confidence amongst the boys, no drive.

Seems they've lacked motivation and confidence and that's the worst team that can happen to a team.

This is the time we need to see who real leaders are (when the going isn't good) and unfortunately no one is showing that.

Arteta sef dey fvk up

kodded:
[right][/right]by now una suppose know say any decisions wey the boys make for the pitch dey come from the arteta.


Same way martinelli and saka chosse to play in their weaker positions for the first 45 minutes.


Arteta big brain masterclass decisions dey sabi surprise me at times.

Na wa oo.
I don't dispute the fact with you, Arteta decisions most times can be shocking.

We're just wasting good setpiece opportunities cos of that nonsense. Imagine Gabriel and white heading to nod ball only to see Cedric aim for goal.

Mentness

50d33q:
Sign of weakness
Bunch of pussies no one can take responsibility
I still repeat odegaard ain't fit for captain, either of Tierney or ramsdale will be okay
Or our newly inagurated clown defenders

E say na newly inaugurated clown defenders

But if dem themselves, is it that they don't know they need to take all these setpieces or what? Even last match sef when we have a direct free kick at a dangerous place na still Cedric play am.

Abi Cedric dey bully the young young boys ni?

I still dey wait for any football-believing lover to tell me why Cedric is always taking our setpieces especially the one that looks dangerous when Odegaard, Saka and martinelli dey pitch

50d33q:
Na she they vex me sef

Lol.. I suspected.
Even when arsenal women were on good run, her name hardly pop up unlike before she was a poster girl for any arsenal win.

I was suspecting she dropped form this season

50d33q:
Those one are so useless jare I use to have hope in them but they have regress really bad

Your crush Miedema, I no come dey hear her again

patrickmuf:
Your analogy doesn't apply in this case because you already know the brain capacity of your student hence you can easily say who will pass or not...At birth, it's not possible for your to predict which path a child will follow however, God already knows...You knew Hitler will cause the death of millions of people from birth and even made a Priest save a frowning Hitler in his younger days...I don't think it's sensible for anyone to say Hitler is a bad person because his creator already knew his end from the beginning...

We are only acting a script...We don't have the power of CHOICE...

Nahh, we have the power of choice else we won't be punished for something we have no control over

When God says he knows our beginning from our ending, it means he has the plans already mapped out for us to follow to become the great person he wants us to be. BUT IT'S OUR CHOICE TO CHOOSE WHETHER WE FOLLOW THE PATH OR NOT.

Joseph for example was destined to be a ruler that will save his parents and brothers from famine in years to come. God have already mapped out his plan but if Joseph had fallen into the seduction of Potiphar's wife do you think he would have been the great man God destined him to be?

That's how it is with Judas. He followed the wrong path and set himself up for devil to use him. That the event was pre-determined doesn't mean he doesn't he didn't set himself as the agent with his choice

patrickmuf:
Pain you say? Lol...

This is Manchester United thread and not Ronaldo or Messi thread...You guys need to know when to troll and when not to. This club is not making any headway yet na Ronaldo vs Messi una carry for head. If Messi fans here start the trolling una go say them dey pray make the club lose match just so they can troll but right now it seems you CR7 fanboys hope he scores regardless of whether we lose or not...

The past 15 pages or more is littered with Ronaldo vs Messi posts...This club is bigger than that. The painful part is that even on Madrid and Barcelona thread where the two greats gave their all is not littered with this sort of arguments...Make una rest abeg.

Lol, I think you should just understand their pains. Man u don tire everybody sotey the only thing giving them joy is Ronaldo. It doesn't matter whether man u win draw or lose. That's the only way to just drown themselves away from man u wahala

Guys don taya for rangnick, don taya for the players, don taya about man u playing nonsense. At least they deserve the right to be happy and if it's just Ronaldo scoring goals that will ensure their happiness with Ronaldo and Messi debate, then let it be. After all I knew how this thread was dry for days when Ronaldo had goal drought.

The earlier I realized that especially from the chief lostmy.zeal I stopped taking his banter and/or others seriously again and I will advice you to do same too.

All these issues will stop when Man u starts working again

Melvyn11:
Before anyone of you comes with your agenda that Ronaldo only scores against relegation contenders.


4goals against Tottenham
2goals against Arsenal
1goal against West ham
1goal against Brighton.

That's 8goals/15 against the current top 10.

Top10 indeed

When have they started rating big game goalscorers with goals against top 10 teams ?

andrewbaba44:
He isn’t

Lol..

andrewbaba44:
That clown is obsessed with Barca ,for 15 games he have always pray for Barca to loose ,it took him months to come right against Frankfurt

Lol, him trolling you guys it's expected na.
Shey he's a Madrid can too

WhoDeyHause:
Why should he troll you? Is his dead barka team any better?

Lol,they have hope of coming to cl next season. I don't.

That counts for something

Roland17:
A day later and this Southampton loss is still hurting.

I feel like this loss ended our top 4 hopes but I desperately hope I am wrong. We were right there and had everything in our control. Now we are having to rely on calculations.

This one dey pain me I no go lie.

This loss enter my marrow make I no lie. Na dat kind blow wey person give you and it turns knockout blow. That's how I felt it

mostob:

You know, I was doubting if we could ever make top 4 because of Xhaka but our winning run removed the doubt...maybe Xhaka is about to be free from that curse... Na so everything just scatter..

Omo, I was hopeful oo.
The fitness of Partey and Saka gave me hope and it was those two I was praying earnestly not to have injuries. I feel others can be replaced and we can scale through but if one of those two is out, I was afraid our top4 hope might be gone.

Now as e don happen, na ystdy just clear my eyes back. No more hope.

I'm sorry mehn, but I'm not optimistic again. Me and man u fans don dey same WhatsApp group for hope this season

andrewbaba44:


Happy Easter jare

Same to you bro.