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KingAlabi:
The bolded is what I am saying since now, currently ballon d'or Trumps it, but in the near future it might not be so.

And again, I don't think saka will agree with you Sha.

When I mean 3-4 years time, I mean that it's wen balon dor will be finally relegated to the back waters. Now it's still new, that's why that excitement of balon dor is still dragging shoulders with FIFA.

Even lewy is happy winning FIFA over balon dor sef. How much more saka

KingAlabi:
They are still having a nostalgia of FIFA world player of the year.

lol.. Really it's not nostalgia.

Before the merger, the balon dor was just strictly "balon dor" award.

When they merged it turned to "FIFA balon dor" award

KingAlabi:
FIFA Bleep up for merging, FIFA world player of the year was the most adorned individual trophy, after merging ballon d'or took central stage, with the break out, e go take time for them to get back that respect they had initially.

True FIfa fvcked up by merging the two.
Tho I don't know the real reason why they did that, but from 2007, it was almost certain that anyone who won balon dor almost automatically won the FIFA award. In 2007, kaka was clear favorite, same thing in 2008(C.Ronaldo) and in 2009(Messi).

So maybe they just thought that a merger will be better.

But from inception, FIFA award was always the pinnacle of men's football award.

KingAlabi:
We are talking currently,
if saka was to win an award would you prefer he win the best or ballon d'or?

Currently, I'll prefer saka to win fifa world best over balon dor cos FIFA world best will always stand the test of time... Balon dor won't.

All that's just needed is 3-4yrs from now and they'll be distinct difference between FIFA award and balon dor award clearly.

When such comes, everybody will recognise who won FIFA award in 2021 and not who won balon dor. Just like same way Ronaldinho won balon dor in 2006 but everybody knows about canavaro who won the FIFA world best award

BlueAngel444:
like saying FWA award is greater than FA PL players of the the year award

Lol... I tell you

LostMyZeal:
Haaa... you're the one misunderstanding me ohh...I didn't make a conditional statement bro. Look at it again or it could be that you're confused by the context.


And yeah, the bold is absolutely correct!

lol... Well maybe I'm confused by the context, or you're the one intentionally confusing me

And as for the bolded, no way in hell is that absolutely correct

LostMyZeal:
Nawa ooh.

Look at the statement again

Alexis Sanchez - a ManUtd oucast

Is Sanchez generally not a ManUtd oucast

It's just like saying Phil Jones - a ManUtd flop

You're attributing the copa win as if he was a man u player then which is wrong.
Just like saying Tottenham legend modric won the balon dor in 2018.

Is it logical... No.

When Alexis won the copa, was he a man u player? No
Was he an outcast? No

So stop placing Sanchez copa win and man u side by side.... Simple

LostMyZeal:
It's no secret that EUROs is like World Cup. Why?

The reason is simple; Europeans have always been the ones dominating the World cup knockout stages.

That's enough reason to put EUROs up there with World Cup.

So, a Copa America will never measure up.
Alexis Sanchez - A ManUtd outcast win Copa America and dem no make any big deal out of am.

Haba na

did Sanchez win it while at man u?
No dey talk diz thing na

Mehn!!!
Can't Believe people I'll be alive and young and people will confidently rate Balon dor ahead of Fifa best player award.

Like magazine and journalist award over Fifa award.

Wow... Just wow!!

LostMyZeal:
Hohohohohoho...Am I missing something here?

I still remember the full name as FIFA Ballon'D crap

And besides, all over the media, no one gives as much shiii about FIFA the best compared to Ballon.

Can't remember Owen, Ronaldinho, Kaka and co being remembered for Fifa the best

In summary, FiFA the best be like NNAMDI AZIKIWE while Ballon'D crap be like AHMADU BELLO.

Na wa oo.

Fifa the best award was originally or formally FIFA best player award. What is a balon dor compared to FIFA best player award. It's like comparing UCL and UEL and starts saying UEL is the best. Who dash monkey banana?

Na FIFA sha for merging the two together, else dey for no get this disrespect

KingAlabi:
Probably on the fact that the best is offered by FIFA, but in terms of history and prestige and even preference among players, it is still ballon d'or currently.

Nah... It's still the FIFA best player award.

Balon dor gained big time prominence in 2010 cos of its attaché with FIFA award.

Else no won took balon dor very very serious before

KingAlabi:
Wetin I dey read like this na

You don't know that FIFA the best player award beats balon for?

patrickmuf:
If the award is now a joke then I really don't know what I'll make of it if Jorginho wins it...

Anyway, I think he is a CR7 fan so he doesn't want Messi to win it..

Lol...
No reason truer than this

Spy360:
You are right on adding money and getting a better striker instead. But which top striker will join Arsenal? Chelsea wants to offload him so they can get Harland. Apart from Harland which young top striker remain?

I tell you, 25m for Abraham is similar to giving Balogun a pro contract. They are all in the same level/category- potentials. In fact Abraham has better prospects than Balogun. If he fails, we can offload him with his age

He is not my choice of striker but if Arteta wants him, I'd say for less than 30m- if so no problem. Even if we don't get him, next summer we will need a striker when Lacazette leaves and Aubameyang is old. Then we will have to spend.

Thank God you're seeing my point. So if he's not so much better than balogun(potentially), why drop 25m for him when we can have it free with balogun. Aside the 25m, his wages will be around 80-100k or Even more. All these things is why I'm against his signing, cos if he flops, trust arsenal to sell him for €5-15m. Thus another loss.

To be sincere, we don't need him. Let's just use that time to develop balogun.

And as for strikers... Strikers dey world. It mustn't be world class, but striker that have good potentials in all these south American leagues. Mk dem go all these south American leagues go bring correct striker from 20-24yrs abeg

Meanwhile, our home Jersey dope sha.

Spy360:
I am not doubting you neither am I saying he is Harry Kane or that we should use Ben White's money to buy him. I said if Chelsea can agree to a fee of 25-30m then it isn't bad for such a striker who is 23, has played for England and has PL experience and has been Chelsea's top scorer for the past two seasons = facts.

Forget all your doubts, if Abraham joins Leeds, Aston Villa or Everton where he will be guaranteed game time, we will be pricing him 50m next season. I remember Nigeria was begging him to play for us instead of England. Chelsea is a bad place to rate young players. Players like Odoi or Gilmour would have blown since.

Lol... I just want to say you've not watched Abraham keenly that's why you're making all these assumptions. Well, it's your opinion so I respect it.

But my own opinion is, instead of wasting 25-30m on Abraham who we can be so frustrated with and can sell if possible, why not wait and add it to get a better and proper striker. Being 23 and having EPL experience doesn't count if the player isn't good enough.
And to me, with what I outlined, he's not good enough to be in our squad (if we want to improve). I look at a player's trait and not the kind of club he is(weda his club promote youngsters or not)

That's my take

Spy360:
I also know that Chelsea is a bad place for young players to thrive see Salah, KDB, Lukaku, Moses, and more recently Hoddoi, Ziyech and Pulisic.

I see potentials in Abraham if he moves else where. That's me.

if you look at all those players, you'll see that most aren't given chances to perform. If you watch their play, you'll see shades of potential in them.

Lemme use salah as example, when he was at Chelsea, he is fast, he can beat his man but he wasn't a prolific goal scorer. Now you'll know this one have shades of potential in him that can be nurtured based on that.

But I just told you that of Tammy Abraham of what he probably doesn't do or have. If he's not good aerially, or not fast, how do you imbibe that in him?

If you'd said we should go for Hudson odoi(in terms of potential talent) I can agree with you. Not Abraham abeg.


Note:... I've watched Abraham mostly during lampard first season as coach and all his negative attributes, I saw them, aside his goals (I'm not making them up)

I implore on any truthful Chelsea fan to prove me wrong if what I outlined about him isn't true

Spy360:
I don't see him as so, but if he is that bad then let's forget him. Nigeria's problem is too much to add Arsenal own join.

Ah... Bros. He's that bad oo. Forget his goals statically. If na before sef wey we dey create chances upon chances, we fit manage am. Not to talk of now that we hardly create 2 chances per match.

You no even notice say fred.oo(a known arsenal troll) no disagree with kod.ded about the Tammy deal?

iamoyindamola:
Lmaooooooo

Lol... You no go curse Arteta if him sanction that deal?

Spy360:
In as much as that relationship has been unfavorable to us, I think that Tammy Abraham is a good prospect. He is young and is an English international. He has the talent/potentials to become a top striker. Depending on how much Chelsea will take, he is someone we can try. 25-30m is ok.

Na wa ooo.
Sufferness no dey taya us?

Tammy Abraham of all strikers??.

1... He is not good aerially despite his height
2... He is not strong, meaning he can't even hutsle or bully defenders
3... He is not fast too, at least to compensate for his lack of strength
4... While he's a good goalscorer, he is more of an advanced nketiah
5... He is not even so good in link up play.
6... He is not even a good dribbler too

What then are we buying him for if not to start wailing about him in a year or two once he wears our shirt.

Na wa ooo

MorataFC:
Can u pls mention the team u fit displace to fit in to top 4?

Lol... Any team not called man city or Liverpool is displaceable oo

Lana1:
With weton una play yesterday, I believe you

Lol... We go see sha

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Roland17:
Make una see who we dey play weekly wage

Spanish Khadiri Ikhana and Edu please leave my club.

This one Na player so? Shouldn’t our Spanish Kadiri Ikhana send Willian back when he appeared unfit for preseason? Instead, he featured Willian in our first friendly! Despite how long Ozil was frozen from the team, he remained fit and in great condition.

Mehn... This is bad.

Wetin bdis??

longetivity:
Bubu I command u to resign as president of naija.

kirichoco!
Kirichoco!!
Kirichoco!!!

Even to write am correctly, you no do

Omo, thunder don go another place be that na

KingAlabi:
No wahala

Noted

Lana1:
You sure say top 4 sure for Arsenal like this?
Dem don begin lash you guys for pre-season o. Be like say nothing never change between May and now

Lol... Nothing don change between may and now oo.

But something go change between August and may. Top 4 sure me

iamoyindamola:
You and this hope
Another hot juicer tears loading

Lol...
The thing tho is that I don't put mind in preseason. I see it as advanced training where players get their fitness and back to match shape and coach learns to use his formation and pass on his ideas. So with that, I'm ready for any loss or mistake as Long as once season starts, they'll get their acts together.

Even if we balogun scores 50goals in preseason, I won't be so hyped up until he starts replicating it in official main matches. That's how I see preseason

swiz123:
It is very painfully that it is a black nairaland guy that is justifying this just because of the misconception that having an unpopular opinion equates intelligence.... Guy, you fall hand. I am ashamed.

This here is what is annoyingly painful. Sometimes he's talking nonsense just to prove that 1+1 isn't 2.

It's so bad

iamoyindamola:
This ESL contender lost to hibs
Opposition don't need to troll us again we can troll ourselves

Na first preseason match na...
Mk we see how next match go be

Sniper4real:
We can even use the lineup till like December

Amen bro

KingTom:
I no wan answer am the way my boys dey answer for here, if not i for say he be small boy wey start to watch ball for 2014

...

I see wetin you do there sha