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ThierryJay:
I hear you but this is more like a politically correct PR statement. The difference was obvious to an experienced eye, just like Ronaldinho while holding the world best title and carrying Barca already knew that Messi was better than him as at 2006. And events have proven him right since he made that statement.

It was already obvious to me that Martinez was more innately talented, how much more experienced football professionals? What has happened afterwards with both keepers has belied the competency of the decision makers at Arsenal.

Lol... Arsenal had Martinez when they bought ospina, bought Cech and bought Leno. The thing is Martinez was/is a late bloomer cos even his few early years at arsenal was inconsistent unlike now(only very very very few arsenal fans can vouch that he'll turn out this good). It's not an easy decision to make when deciding keepers, cos both can't be seeing fair game time unlike outfield players (like your messi-dinho example). One needs to go, and it's not straight forward to let go of your best keeper after he was bought the previous season just because his deputy shone for just 2 months. I've never seen it done anywhere(you can prove me wrong with evidence). If Leno had underwhelmed before Martinez took over, I would have joined in blasting arsenal board, but like I earlier said, Leno was gunning for the club's best player prior to his injury. You know what it means for a keeper to gun for club's best player right?.

The decision looks stupid now sadly, but then every decision is a risk. One can't get every decision right.

ThierryJay:
Arsenal were ultra stupid. He was obviously better than Leno.

As at then, it was very arguable.
Before Leno went to injury and Martinez replaced him, Leno or aubameyang was clear of winning arsenal player of the year. He was that good before his injury. Martinez seem a bit better wen he came, but in business sense you don't throw away someone you bought for good amount the previous season and who is also contender for the club's POTY just because your 2nd keeper (who is from your academy) put in impressive performance in just 2 months.

Oasis007:


Since Barcelona is in Crisis and won't be able to re-sign Messi, except they release few players on undeserved Wages...... I won't mind we hijack Messi deal on a 2yrs Contract though.

Another Player I won't mind to get from Barca is Ousmane, jez like the Lad. He's a top Talent but Injury is wrecking his Career.

Jones and Bailly never tire you?

iamoyindamola:
For messi's sake they must win it
Thank God every spirit of hugain bad luck dan go
That guy suffer messi from world cup to copa america back to back

I swear down.
I don talk am once for man u thread, if I be messi eh, me and higuain for don become enemies for life.

Spy360:
Arsenal bid 25m for H. Aouar. It's like Lyon are interested.

make arsenal top money forget this Aouar go buy Olmo abeg

iamoyindamola:
If you remember i wanted to have a bet with blueraydick before the season start last season that martinez will better leno in saves,cs and other goalkeeping qualities.
He called me petty , the painful thing is they did double over us with martinez taking 2 sweet cs
Like bluemann said, the kind of confidence martinez gave me was second to none, i will never forget his save against city in the fa cup.
He doesn't have any right to catch that mahrez ball

Lol,.. Yeah, I remember. I even dey the table sef, cos I remember say I join tell you say Martinez no fit get more Cs pass Leno

Martinez was really one of the key players for our fa cup win. Him and Auba mostly. In fact, na Martinez and messi make me dey pray make Argentina win that copa sef

Spy360:
An open criticism is a big NO to your manager. It's that simple. I don't like Arteta but I won't tolerate such indiscipline. It would have been better he denied saying it, or claim he was misunderstood

That said, there should be a way of reintegration for the interest of the club. If Saliba is good, let him prove himself now at Marseille and we will raise enough dust to get him back to London.

Well to the bolded, I agree to your point there, esp were you said saliba should claim he was misunderstood. That's the honorable thing for saliba to do to reduce tension between him and Arteta I think.

As for the 2nd, I just feel sending him out on loan again, esp when it's not to an English team is useless and baseless.
Once he comes back, it'll be only 2yrs left in his contract. Are we then going to build a future around someone who'll be entering his last year of his contract once he wants to donne arsenal Jersey? Will he want to even sign a new contract, esp when Arteta might still be the coach?
I feel we should just loan him to a club with an option to buy and cut our losses on his head before it gets bigger. Arsenal fvck up for saliba case be say we don fvck up

Akinbahm:
Boss, I followed the guy pass some Barcelona fans self. I won't lie to u anytime I watch this guy plays he always give me one crazy orgasm.

The guy only sees players in front of him not like our midfielder brothers side by side pass and reset to keeper and start the stupid cycle again.

In all honesty I prefer him over Xhaka and Cebalos in CM position any time any day.

Do you also notice Alena sincerely, Barça get some nice youth in their team squad big time.

Is puig a Cm? I thought he's an Am for barca, especially the few times I watched him.

But me too, I love the guy play. I know I also brought it as an option here we can loan him when we were looking for Am to loan last season before getting odegaard.

As for Alena, I no too fancy his game

iamoyindamola:
30-35m will get this olmo guy
Arsenal please be useful na

Lol...
Arsenal no dey see this kain ones na.

If indeed we really have good scouts, Olmo suppose don dey radar even before euros. Someone wey I first know and track from Spain friendly, then have to follow him all the way back to Leipzig to confirm say him sure.

We no suppose dey delay for this kain player at all

iamoyindamola:
I told them in our thread we sold the wrong keeper, I don't see him staying at villa park for a long time

Lol... Time proved you right.

Mehn, e dey pain me sha, esp as Leno dey drop all those errors both from passing at the back or just basic goalkeeping mistake

PDPGuy:
Wait.. Neymar wasn’t part of Brazil’s squad two years ago?

Yeah, was initially called but got injury before copa started. Was replaced by Willian who was on the standby list.

BlueMann:
I've said it before...mere looking at Martinez fills one with confidence. Brilliant goalie.

As for Arsenal...na oga Jodera and oga Roland17 fit answer that one, me I neither know nor care.
In fact, e sweet me

Lol..
It's a case of having a €22m keeper in which you bought with your money(Leno)
And
Having a very good keeper from academy whom you relatively bought for almost free(Martinez)

And you're expected to choose between one or the other.

Logically, business sense will tell one to choose Leno since he's bought for such amount and he's also giving great performances.

Arsenal did that, but unfortunately time have proven that arsenal made the wrong choice

johnjunior39:
Honestly, I have never seen that Maddison happening, somehow my mind is giving me this vibe that Aour may be a late buy.

I still wish and pray that Ben white deal is hijacked, I am yet to understand the idea behind buying another defender when you are not playing Europe or selling the ones already available.

Even the clean up we were suppose to do, we are still here. The likes of Kola, Bellerin, Eleny , Willian , Torreria and Lacazette (if u ask me self add Auba) should have been sold by now.



Wait let me go back to the midfield, imagine a sale of Xhaka and no replacement, it will now be willock that will play with Partey? Presently our midfielders of the.likes of Xhaka and Torreria move is Wiliock, Lokonga, Eleny and Partey. This is a direct insult to Partey honestly.

Exactly. It's all these things I'm saying I'm just waiting for transfer window to end before I can give my take.
We need to push people out and also need to get people in, yet our board is lackadaisical in both areas as if na we get transfer window or as if it's just one or 2 additions that's needed.

Any sale of xhaka without any player coming in will even make us weakened than strengthened. See players you rightly called that needs to go, but you'll be surprised that 80% of them will still be present come Sept and we'll just add one loan and one 50m buy. Finish.

Then the wailing and gnashing of teeth continues

popizaino:
Aside vincete del bosque Others top coaches have also confirmed that of Busquet,but jorginho's father sarri is the only seeing what others are not se4ing about his son .

Lol... Na wa oo.
Even tho busquet is better than jorginho, but that doesn't mean jorhinho isn't good na.

This your comment dey do me like say jorginho no good at all

johnjunior39:
If we play Saliba ,I'm sure you will rate him better

of course I might.
But unfortunately, I'm not the coach and the coach doesn't even want to rate him sef. That's the sad issue

iamoyindamola:
It's because we ain't ruthless enough we are suppose meeting grealish for outside and even send saka to him, maddison rumor just die a slow and painful death

our club can't convince a player. Not good in negotiations at all. The only time we'll mostly sign a player is if the player wants to come and no other club is bidding. Absence of those two and the player wouldn't be ours.

As for the bolded, I just know say na scam. In fact, I don't think we can pull any top player from any top EPL side(including Everton and Leicester). That's how low we've sunk

iamoyindamola:
Saliba shouldn't be added cos this is down to change of coach
Ebening got him arteta don't like him, lets talk about the one arteta agreed to and how they turned out to be

True talk.
Me I'm suspecting if we get an Am, it'll be another stupid loan.

Amoto94:
Hensben have something to say regarding this

Hes.ben go say weda Jorginho na lawn tennis player

iamoyindamola:
Runnarson close to leaving on permanent basis
Who ordered his purchase, I don't or can't trust our transfer anymore after all na person buy William

Willian, runnarson, Saliba.
Monies washed down the drain

iamoyindamola:
Wahala for who no get sense, our board members are dumber than ed,edd and eddy

Lol... Just so annoying.
They might sell ESR for 40m only to buy an Am who is slightly better than ESR for 60-70m.

Isn't that madness?

Amoto94:
“When I started dealing with Chelsea [Jorginho] was signing with City, we were able to intervene and bring him to Chelsea. They struggled, fans and journalists, to understand this boy’s game. Then he exploded in popularity also in England, now I have seen that he’s been made [vice-]captain. He deserves it.”

“If he wins the European Championship too, it is clear that he would become [a candidate for the Ballon d’Or]. He is a refined player, probably not understandable by everyone. You have to put your eyes on him and only watch him in the game. He is so good and intelligent that he makes everything seem easy, rarely do you. something spectacular remains in the eye. This is its greatness.”

“In my opinion Jorginho is more suitable for [a midfield] three than two, he is very intelligent and adapts to everything. Kantè is monstrous, at very high speed he makes 3.5 km while the average is 2.2. He recovers a thousand balls, he can play two or three.”

-Maurizio Sarri Source: Football Italia

Exact Same thing being said about busquet too by a different coach

iamoyindamola:
Why are we not pushing for grealish
We use smith rowe as bait just a taste of those fvckers medicine

Our board get sense?

I remember wen barca was pushing for verrati and PSG warned them. They pushed again, then PSG turned neymar head who just fly comot for barca surprisingly.
But our stupid board, they're richer than Aston Villa, yet Aston Villa dey harass you. Something you'll just drop 50m for grealish and increase grealish salary (to turn his head) and you'll see Aston Villa run away.

But mumu people no go ever think. All their own na money

Unlimited22:
It would be a criminal offence if Robert Lewandowski doesn't win the Ballon D'or this year. Especially after the fiasco of last year. Which is why I can't support Argentina this time around. Make them wait for world cup or next tournament.

But lewandowski won the FIFA best player award(which is higher than the balon d'or wen separated) which is also known as the world best player award. So I don't see it as criminal offence since he's been clearly rewarded.

iamoyindamola:
Those scummies no get shame

lol... I swear, e easy to talk na.

iamoyindamola:
If you no sabi just they look on the sideline
I dan finish those scummies way they shout ole out and them no fit manage virtual team with a budget of 100m
Even ibime wasn't spared

Spy360:
1. I don't believe our board members are so daft to pay 50m for someone they do not need and not at least the same amount for the one they need. I am waiting for them to prove me wrong like you said.

2. I think both parties (Arteta and Saliba) mismanaged their relationship and at this stage one has to bow for the other, and that should be Saliba in my opinion. However, for the progress of the club, a solution has to be found quickly and that's on Arteta.

1... You've high hopes for this club sha esp the board. Right from when I know them, it's difficult for them to spend 50m each on 2 players in the same window, reason why I'm hoping that White deal doesn't go through. If it eventually goes through, then it's over for any 50-60m kinda Am we might be hoping for. Except if they get an Am on a cheap who has past reputation e.g coutinho for 20m or that kinda signing
But like you said, make we dey look sha

2... I feel the onus lies on Arteta to take that initiative to "bow" to the other. Doing that isn't puncturing his pride or sort but I see it as mending the bridges and also the right thing to do. Yes, Saliba Fvcked up for saying such thing while on loan, but it's up to Arteta to create that environment for communication which to me is One-on-one talk with saliba while reassuring him for a place. That act itself will probably make Saliba to apologize. I truly supported Arteta how he treated guen but in this Saliba case - no no! Except like I said, there's something more that Saliba did which we're not aware of

Spy360:
Lokonga and Tavares are not regarded as impact signings, they are more like investments for the future. So for me they don't count.

Again, common sense tells us that bidding 50m for a defender like Ben White means that there is a plan for the areas which we need most like AM and CM. Also we expect significant outlays there in those areas.

As for Saliba, I think he has a relationship issue with Arteta similar to that of Guendouzi (Both are now with Marseille ) as there is no other reason why he should be on another loan and not fighting to get a shirt. He too has made it worse when he openly criticised Arteta.

1... Why do you think that bidding 50m for Ben White means there's plans by the club to sign a significant Am and/or cm? Sorry but I'm trying to see the rationale behind the relationship esp knowing who our club is.

2.. If Arteta could send saliba on loan again without giving him a fair chance just because he was criticised by him, then I'm afraid for who Arteta is as a man. I just want to believe there's something more to it. When saliba did that criticism, I was expecting Arteta as a coach to talk to him and reassure him; sending him away from the team without him joining the camp is just a no no from me to Arteta. Well I believe with time, the real truth about all that's happening between those two will come out

ALEXAPLAYME:
Let me drop this here

Hmmmmm....
Lemme keep quiet fest

MorataFC:
What of non-open play assist

Naim be close play assist na

Roland17:
You sef check am na.. We don spend nearly 80M buying players that won’t resolve our pressing issues..
We did not need Ben White, worsestill at that price, Lokonga is not a sure starter and Tavares is supposed to be Tierney’s backup.
Stingy people wen don manage spend nearly 80M, you sure say dem go spend serious money on top quality midfielder?

Me I'm suspecting they'll still bring just 1 more outfield player just like partey signing.

But who would that be... I probably don't know yet. Reason why I'm waiting

iamoyindamola:
I'm just waiting till after euros I think that's what English fans are waiting for before they unleash mayhem on arsenal FC

this is my thoughts too

Roland17:
Baba, what are your thoughts about Lokonga? And what are your expectations going into the season? Where do you think we can realistically finish or be by December with our Spanish Khadiri Ikhana?

Watching few of lokonga clips on YouTube, I'm not too impressed. Since he's 21/22yrs, I'm sure he might probably see more of him coming off from the bench, so perhaps I'll access him very well at arsenal esp since we're already close to getting him.

As for this season, na God hand we dey. Tho, I don't want to give any conclusion now till towards end of transfer window so that I can fully access the incoming and outgoing players to make a proper assessment/opinion.
But if we only sign lokonga and tavarez without any significant signing(s) in key areas, then I'm sure we'll be lucky to see 6th sef. Mind you by Jan, we'll be losing Pepe, elneny and partey(key players).
The way I'm seeing it by December, we'll be in a position not too good, but also just enough for the board not to sack Arteta.

That's my take