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kodded:
hey guys i didn't watch the match today, please can you guys rate chambers game today, i saw him in the starting line up as a RB

He did very ok, but was limited in attack (and strong in defence).

Not a bad day for him. Even willian sef played a good game

mostob:
Nobody should blame Xhaka... Leno was foolish to have passed the ball to him.

Later, some refs will say they are been threatened by fans.
What was the meaning of the yellow card he gave to Pieters then if that was no foul?

Xhaka is fully to be blamed. To me, it's 100% his fault

First he demanded for the ball(watch the replay to see he was the one who ran and called for the ball)

2nd, the trapped the ball and delayed, making Burnley's press to cover up

3rd, seeing that everywhere is covered, the best bet is to pass back to Leno to clear the ball out. Instead he wanted to use his weaker foot to pass out of pressure.

To me Leno is not at fault, it's not as if xhaka doesn't have the time and space to pass back to him. Xhaka wasn't even dispossessed immediately Leno passed him the ball, so the fault is solely xhaka and nobody else

BlueMann:
Probably the most controversial of them all thus far.

We can say, in Kante's case, that he was moving his hand away. But this one...na wa

Me I don tire for epl referees and var mata.

Actually, they need to start interviewing refs the way they're doing to managers and players after each game. Let us know the reasons for their shambolic decisions most times

Actually, I no understand this handball rule again

iamoyindamola:
This is another reason I can never pick Leno ahead of Martinez
You see they are closing in on players you are still forcing play from back

What stops xhaka from passing back to him?
He has all the time to pass back but he decided to do xavi at that spot. The worst part is that it's his weaker foot he used to do such risky pass

Haba

Seems Willian don force him way enter 1st eleven. Exactly what Arteta has been looking for

Chambers at Rb? Maybe that's where Arteta is seeing him now.

Hmmmm

Greatihex:
I'm saying there was no time that any ball that touches the hand automatically attracts penalty.

There are numerous example
The latest one involves arsenal against benfica in the Europa league. Smith Rowe was the offending player when ball hit his hand from a cross just like Kante's own and it was awarded a penalty. The only situation for a penalty not tp be called is if the hand was beside his body. But any extension of the hand and the ball hit it(intentional or not), is a penalty.

Greatihex:
There was no time any handball will attract penalty. It must have to be intentional or if the blocked shot is goal bound.
What was amended is that of scoring from handball situation. Go and check the rules again.

Really? Are you serious?

thorrvik55:
From my own understanding, if the ball touches an attacking player's hand enroute to a goal, the goal 100% does not stand. No refs discretion is needed at all.

If it happens to a defending player then it's left for the ref and VAR to determine if the hand was in an unnatural position, if it made him bigger and other stuffs like that..

The two scenarios are quite different tho.

Yeah.. I've come to realize the bolded. And I've also gotten the answer I needed regarding Kante's handball, tho I'm
waiting for the answer I asked greati.hex so that I can fully understand his opinion

BlueMann:
Sometimes though, the outcome of these situations also depend on the discretion of the ref. Plus, the rules must've been tweaked here or there since that time.

Nonetheless it was a huge let off for us.

True it all depends all ref's discretion, which somehow tells me about the inconsistencies of this rule. Except maybe a new rule has been implemented, that is indeed a huge let off

Greatihex:
I said penalty handball, when in your own box just like Kante's case. The amended handball rule for opponent box says, no goal no matter what as long as the ball touches they scoring teams hand during the cause of the goal.

So if I'm to understand the new/amended rule, it means it doesn't attracts a penalty again. The only thing is that if for example
such scenario happens and Chelsea attacks and scores from such situation, Chelsea's goal will be cancelled.

Am I right?

BikeMan:
Kante was not lucky. It was a ball to hand situation, there was nothing he could have done. However, if Kante’s handball had led to a Chelsea goal, it will be ruled off. This is what happened to the Fulham goal.

But is that not how most situations involving handball are given penalty. Example the ucl Final involving Sissoko handball.
Is that not another situation of ball to hand cos clearly " there's nothing he could have done " too

popizaino:
Time to flog assnal silly, at the bridge.

Shey you no go think of your next match?

Abi the loss of December still dey pain you ni

patrickmuf:
Okay, I misunderstood him then...

Yeah. Some people are so frustrated and depressed in real life that they vent all their anger and frustration on online folks hoping for attention. All these kinda people na just control Ignore dem need.

patrickmuf:
I don't get you, didn't you see his choice of words in his replies?

what he meant was that you shouldn't have quoted the idiot while typing that ",miss me please". It will only give the fool more ego and relevance to keep on typing trash.

BlueRayDick:
I don’t think anybody can give a valid reason why the Kante ball wasn’t penalized . Let’s just say it was a regrettable error in the part of the ref and VAR

Yeah... True

BlueRayDick:
It’s really funny how they are trying to explain away such clear handball. Kante that had his hands stretched apart like that person talk say it is in natural position

Instead of just agreeing Kante was lucky because anybody that watched that Fulham game and watched Chelsea’s will be confused as to how exactly VAR works and how handballs are judged.

Somebody even said it wasn’t intentional . Sissoko in the champions league final was seen pointing to his players to mark Liverpool players out before the ball touched his outstretched hands; it was clear he had no intentions of handling the ball but he still had a penalty awarded against him

It was really clear. I've to watch the replay over and over again to see if there's any reason why it wasn't given, but I just couldn't find any. What even made it funny was how same day Fulham was denied a goal cos of a handball In which the offending player's hand was even in his body (that's a natural position).

Kante was indeed lucky but var inconsistencies is killing the game. Now players and coaches don't even know which rule is which again... And I think that's the annoying part.
Also it might breed room for corruption cos the rules aren't as transparent as it was before and nobody will be held responsible as the refs and officiating body will just hide under the illusion called Var

timbros:
Pre VAR era, some refs would have given a penalty. Agreed. But it would have been way too harsh.

I didn't watch the Fulham game. I'll have to check it to give my opinion.

I don't think it would have been harsh. It's not as if firmino deliberately aimed for his hand.
Who knows, that might have resulted to a goal if it wasn't handled.

Anyways, if you can watch the replay/highlight of the Fulham's game involving the handball, I would gladly like to hear your opinion

BikeMan:
When your handball leads to a goal, the goal will be ruled off, that's what happened yesterday.

Kante's hand was also in a natural position but he was obstructing any goal.

I'm sure you want to write "not in a natural position" ( )cos it's evident his hand was well outstretched from his body wen the incident happened.

Anyways, please if you can watch the replay/highlight of Fulham's game ystdy(esp the disallowed goal), I would love to hear your opinion on it with respect to that of Kante too

timbros:
You can clearly see that it was not intentional.

There was absolutely nothing he could have done to remove his hand at that close range, but even at that, he was taking his hand away from the ball when he was hit.

When it happened initially I believed it was a penalty but replays showed that a penalty call would have been a VERY harsh decision.

Actually, most handball you see aren't deliberate. Why I believe kante wasn't intentional about it I also feel he was fortunate. Also I think this handball rule is way too inconsistent.

Did you see the disallowed goal for Fulham ystdy. What's your opinion about it if you don't mind

Greatihex:
penalty handball is always about intention and/or blocking goal bound shot.

Hmmm...
Did you see the disallowed goal for Fulham ystdy. What's your opinion about it if you don't mind

That handball on kante. I thought it ought to be a penalty as his hand was definitely away from his body(in an unnatural position).

Please what was the reason why it wasn't given? Is there any new handball rule that has been implemented recently?

ddippset:
What about Aunty Melvyn?

What club does she support?

Wait??
Is Mel.vin a guy or a lady?

obinoral1179:
please link to the girlfriend thread I want it check something.

"I am a fine girl"(all are one word oo).... Is her name, search her moniker and read her story

Illimitable:
Your foolishness has been exposed and you have decided to go beast mode into talking a lot of nonsense you heard from the occupants of your house.

I pity the person that made you this way.

No, you for talk about Vdb and ole na. I think say you get more foolish points to bring out.

No go get sense, Illimitable in Foolishness

Illimitable:
Rashford should be converted to a right back.

His decision making is terrible. He just wants to run with the ball even when he can make quick passes. He plays like a right back.



I was in the front row when intelligence was being shared, you were on a leave of absence.

We are talking about Ole. The most idiotic manager in Europe. A man that relegated Cardiff from the PL. Why would you trust Ole’s decision making?

Is Mata Injured too?

VDB was on the bench about 3 days ago at the Bridge, you mean he got injured on the bus or armed robbers broke his leg last night?

If stupidity is an academic degree, you would be a professor.

When I said na empty sense you carry come earth, person go think say I dey beef you.
No go beg your creator for sense, even if na pry3 own, cos at least, simple analytical thinking no go dey hard you.
And the worst part is that you type so much rubbish with full confidence. Anyways, madmen no dey shame so I understand why you type so much nonsense with full chest

Illimitable:
So by your logic, any player that isn’t on the bench can never be available to start a game?

And you are allowed to vote in your country of birth? This is one of the demerits of democracy.

You need to hire a designated thinker.

So in your wisdom, shoretire and diallo will make the bench while s fit vdb won't make it even as there's no report of rift between ole and vdb.

To get common sense expensive for your life aswear. When your creator dey share sense, where you dey?

Illimitable:
You are a gasbag!

There are 25 players in the squad, only 20 can be named for a match. It means some players would be left out fit or unfit.

VDB was on the bench against Chelsea, he didn’t kick a ball throughout and there was no report of any injury in training. So why didn’t the fool start him in a game like this?

Instead of you people to watch less football and increase your brain power, you sit on the internet to type rubbish. No wonder Nigeria is the way it is. The leaders can count on morons like you to make the country a shit hole.

Keep quiet jarey.
You didn't see vdb In the bench but you want ole to start him.

You for kukuma tell him to start martial and pogba since na people wey no dey bench fit start match.

You'll type so many meaningless rubbish with utmost confidence thinking you're smart. Tueh!!

Illimitable:
So that suggests to you that I meant put VDB from the bench?

Is Van de Beek dead? Why didn’t the clueless manager start him instead of leaving him out of the squad?

Do you people read with your collective common sense or you leave them in the bathroom before coming on Nairaland to type rubbish.

Oga na you goof still dey yarn opata. Na wa you oo.

You didn't see vdb in bench but you want ole to start him.
Shoretire and diallo made bench but not vdb, so that didn't tell you that he's not available for selection?
You go make mistake, still insult person for correcting you... Tufia!!

TrebleChamp:
Weyrey

handelex:
Oya dm me mai give you her konet

Sharp!!