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iamoyindamola:
Abi no be so

Lol... Na so oo

iamoyindamola:
Why do you guys think wengay broke his transfer record 6 months after getting lacazette
He found out he bleeped up big time he used auba to cover up his mistake

mostob:
He was supposed to be dragging top scorers with Auba for God's sake. I really hope he responds well to his poor performance yesterday.

Yes, I believe he'll respond. He even looked crestfallen yesterday on the bench sef. So I believe he'll respond

johnjunior39:
If we can get Aour and maybe that Lille guy, abeg make we revert to 433 formation. What we played yesterday will make people work to hard.
Our game is predictable. There should be diverse ways of creating changes not just by wing play, that is what make Liverpool superior if you cut Salah, Mane nko, even midfield and defence can all contribute to scoring

Even Arteta knows this is not his formation. Once we get those 2 positions filled, either 433 or 4231 we'll go for.

mostob:
Maybe it is time to return Auba to that CF. Even, the role assigned to laca, he couldn't do it well.
Seriously, those misses yesterday still pains.

Lol... Na the miss dey pain you, or that laca don't know how to play that role well.?

Come on, let's just say that day was his off day for scoring. Even the goal sef, he didn't hit it hard enough, he should just thank God that he bounced that ball on the floor, else that ball was a lazy shot. Me I just take it that it's his off day for scoring sha

From what I got from the game and why we lost

1... Klopp outwitted Arteta tactically.
If you notice, arsenal have a way of passing out from the back using keeper- Luiz-xhaka one side, or keeper-holding- elneny the other side to beat the opposition attackers press(when passing out from back). Then after successfully doing that, they advance using the wing backs (either bellerin or Niles depending on which wing).
Well, why I said klopp was really smart was that he knew that was the key to arsenal build up, so he stationed all his midfielders to man mark our wingbacks (Niles and bellerin), while also man marking xhaka and elneny too.
With this, we would just be camped in our box, since the personnel which are supposed to transition the ball from defence to midfield to attack are already man marked. The defenders become confused cos all areas to pass the ball diagonally( using the wing backs up field) have been man marked too. Also they are under pressure from Liverpool's front three to, so the next possible option is to take it straight to midfield. Leno isn't a good passer of the ball like Martinez, while Liverpool ensured that it was holding who did the clearing out and not Luiz(sense from klopp), since they know he wasn't good at long passes like Luiz or Tierney.

2... The easiest way to beat those press is if we have ball carriers and dribblers as the transitional midfielders (the xhaka and elneny job). And also the wing backs to not be easily dispossessed wen pressured. Well elneny tried but xhaka was a big culprit. Bellerin tried, but Niles was a big culprit too. Also, if only Leno and holding were good passers of the long ball(**cough** Gabriel, (and we miss Martinez too, but sha we move)), we would have easily beaten the Liverpool's front press, as we might pass the ball straight to willian or auba or lacazette in the middle. But then, those two just budey the ball anyhow and our possession was lost.
No wonder wen ceballos came on, we saw more possession(unlike 1st half), more transition and more clear cut chances.

3... Klopp have given top managers the key to stop our build up and if it happens like that, I guess our honeymoon using this formation against big team is over. It'll be interesting to see how Arteta would be flexible from now on and see if he has something up his sleeves again.

Till then, I still remain hopeful!!
Up gunners!!!

Well, klopp has found a way to stop us from passing out from the back. That really disrupted our rhythm to even fashion out any attack. The first time we successfully did it, we scored(albeit with a bit of luck). Arteta needs to change tinz 2nd half.
Holding can't pass ball under pressure, same with Leno.

And our midfielders and wing backs, wen pressed, we easily surrender possession. That's why we need a good ball carrier in this team.

All in all, klopp is really an intelligent coach sha

iamoyindamola:
Why is gabriel on bench arteta
My fpl

Lol, so na your FPL dey worry you??


Nice eleven tho

iamoyindamola:
Arteta may not risk him, I don't know though

Arteta says why he missed west ham game was for precautionary measure. I guess we'll see him tonight

iamoyindamola:
What do you think of this formation
We can stretch lfc with this
Leno
Gab Luiz holding
Amn/saka bellerin
Xhaka elneny
William
Pepe auba

I thought KT is back?

Lol...
Been following this debate tho, and I'll say both sides are right in their own way. But here's my view.

First thing first, I think the decision makers saw iwobi as a winger and not really an heir to ozil, else I don't think they would have sold him. Also, remember, part of iwobi's money was used to fund Pepe's deal for him to come (they see pepe as an upgrade to iwobi as a winger), plus the money was good to turn down. While Pepe is Manning that wing, Nelson is been prepared as Pepe back up(reason he wasn't sent out on loan again).

So if you look at it critically, you won't blame the board for selling iwobi.
Moreover, Emery never liked the number 10-role, and he was expected to stay long(not sacked at arsenal), iwobi also love the no 10 role, which Emery can never grant him that. So all these coupled with that, the sale of iwobi makes sense to both arsenal and iwobi, since iwobi feels he'll see the number 10 role at Everton (it was barely vacant there, as sigurdsson was struggling, and iwobi was viewed like an upgrade or competition to him)


Also, what made you think Arteta would have used or improved iwobi the way you sound certain @mostob. I mean, torreira have all the qualities needed for a DM, yet Arteta isn't looking at him. So we can't be so sure too.

This shouldn't cause arguments sha between us, Iwobi is gone, we're hoping on Aouar, and if bought, we hope he performs more than expectation. Iwobi might still even be used in the wing sef if he was Here, who knows?. After all, he hasn't played Am for us for once (nor can I remember any). So we should just chill.
The bargain was right for both parties at the onset, and the money wasn't expected to upgrade the Am position but the wing(and it was).
Now that we need and also upgrade the Am, it is time to go for it. So no biggie at all.

Coyg!!

iamoyindamola:
You see why you don't owe those mumu any reply

Lol... I swear.
Na just say I get time ystdy

Kbs468:
Mikel Arteta on a defensive playstyle: “I’m here to win. I’m here to find ways to do it. The players we have available can change our game plan. We have to be able to adapt. I think in football now, one way doesn’t work unless you are superior to the opponent all the time.” #afc


Arteta: “Sometimes it’s what you want to do as a coach & are allowed to do with the level of players & performance that top teams can do against you. [In those games] we had to defend deeper than we would like to, but we have to prepare for the games finding scenarios to win.”

There's no more perfect response than this.
Nice response

weedtaker:
I just check my team, I even sold Mitrovic for that shekpite German sub-way surf.. hahahaha shey no be god wan punish me like dis? I pray make mirtrovic drop disaster class tomorrow.

Which wan be German subway surf again..
You no go kill me for here

daveP:
leave them. Everton scouting for creative players in EPl and booom Iwobi was first choice, and at 40m. When Everton arent stupid.


I recall days of Iwobi being blamed severally for loses, which some were his fault, but under Emery, na den people hyping Mustafi eye clear.


It's barely 3 yrs and many cant remember sef? I dont blame anyone that forget those days. It was heart wrenching!!!

Lol.. Abi!!

daveP:
Im not convinced. The fact that we having midfield hunger is kinda making him overhyped to me. The +ve outta all of this is that for Arteta to want him, then he fits the philosophy. If Iwobi was around, survived Emery and happened to be at Emirates with Arteta at the helm, we all, nobody on here can say crap. Rather we'll be singing high praises at how Mikel has madr Iwobi a better player, and insult Emery further.


Maybe we judge Iwobi by goals that's why he seem ordinary to us. We seem yo forget that even with Auba on the pitch, it got to a point that we had no chances created till Iwobi came on.


Well he's at Everton, and suddenly he looks so bad and many saying he was crap. Smh. That was fast.


He's declined since he got to Merseyside.


Aouar can come.



There's a reason I call him an Iwobi that shoots at goal. Till then, I'm indifferent, save faith in our Coachito.

Well, if he's the creative iwobi I know, and he can still shoot the shots for goals, then I'm up for it.
I think that's what we truly need sef

timay:
No mind Arsenal fans with short memory. Why do you guys think Everton drop £35million pounds straight up without even think twice.

Infact , his performance started dropping when he got to Everton, and not before

lol.. I know he was somehow inconsistent in his latter days, but mehn, boy was our creative man then,
It's good thing we sold him, but then it's not good we've a short memory of what he offered us.

I know then,(a season after his breakthrough season) I was really happy seeing iwobi starting, and I always pray he starts cos he was good creatively, and he was hardly dispossessed.

iamoyindamola:
Bro iwobi is no starter
Of course he will start some matches when we have injury crises.
He's just like saka in the team, they are not first choice but can start when the first choice are not available

Lol... How is 22 starts out of 35 available selection not a starter?
At least, saka own is understandable, because he fill in at left back.
But if iwobi, starting on the wing, 22 times is you saying is because of injury crises, then don't you think it was because he deserved his spot due to some impressive performances while the person was away.

To start 22 times and 18 times for a top team as A WINGER, no be beans.

kokaneprodigy:
Iwobi not making first team under Emery is not a criterion to judge him at all, keywords here “under Emery”.
Emery’s first team where players like Willock, Nelson, Guendouzi were starters while the likes of Laca, Ceb, Ozil, were bench warmers?

lol... Na even under Emery him enjoy sef. Seems most guys have forgotten how iwobi is for us. I'm still saying it, what iwobi lacked was scoring, aside that, Iwobi was good at ball retention, giving quality passes and dribbling. Not world class tho, but he was the best in creativity aside ozil.
His assist stat might not tell the full story, but the iwobi wey I watch was our best creative player aside ozil

iamoyindamola:
Show us the stats na

in 2017/2018, he made 22 starts,
Out of 36 match day squad selections.

In 2016/2017, he made 18 starts, out of 35 match day squad selections.

In 2015/2016(his breakthrough season, which he started 2nd half of the season), he made 8 starts, out of 21 match day squad selections.


All these starts are just leagues o, excluding champions league or fa cups.

Match day squad selections means the number of times he's available to play.


Now tell me, does that look like someone who wasn't a starter during his arsenal days

tintedniggz:
I hope he does cos Kola is error prone, damn!

too error prone and lack basic football qualities

iamoyindamola:
Show us the stats na

Lol..
I no too sabi all these stats ish sha, but I dey come.
Just chill.

iamoyindamola:
Was he?

yup.
I remember him starting most of Emery games.
I also remember him starting most of Wenger games before he regressed.

tintedniggz:
But we could do a Holding, David and Gab at the back, what do you think?

We could, but then, if Tierney is not Available, will Arteta see it that way??

iamoyindamola:
Iwobi was not a starter at arsenal FFS

sure??

Great100000:
Fernandes' Goal After Final Whistle: Other Times We Saw Something Like That.

On 26th of September 2020, Manchester United defeated Brighton and Hove Albion to record their first win of the premier league season albeit in bizzare fashion.

The Reds were awarded a penalty kick which eventually led to the game's winner after the final whistle had been blown by the referee.

Neal Maupay scored in the fifth minute of added to give Brighton their equalizer and from there the match seemed to be headed for a draw until the drama late on.

United captain Harry Maguire's header from a corner hit Neal Maupay's arm but the referee did not spot it and blew the final whistle.

Immediately after that he was notified by the assistant referee and he consulted the monitor on the side of the pitch and decided that it was a penalty for United. Fernandes duly stepped up and scored the winner. But how unlikely is it that a major decision is made after the final whistle? Here are 3 other times it happened:

If you don't know the scorer of the equalizing goal for Brighton yesterday, I don't know how you want us to believe what happened in 2015, 2018 and so on from you...

iamoyindamola:
I wan pray make kola get injury but no body go wan buy handicap

as in, the guy game dey tire me.
I need available point from Liverpool, and if kola starts, we might as well just lose that game.
I won't have confidence at all

iamoyindamola:
Guy see people you arguing with

lol, I get time on my hands today na

Segedinho:
Oks......

Maybe it wasn't from the onset

Or probably I misunderstood the new argument

We cool laidat

Yea, you probably misunderstood me, but it's all good.
We cool

Kbs468:
LIVERPOOL V ARSENAL

TEAM NEWS

Team news: Tierney, Cedric,Sokratis and more


Here is the latest team news update from our medical team ahead of Monday’s match at Liverpool.
 

Updates since the last match:
 

Emile Smith Rowe
Sustained an injury to his right shoulder in training. Now out of protective sling and aiming to return to full training within the next week.
 

Sokratis
Right calf. Being integrated back into full training in the coming days.
 

Kieran Tierney
Tight left groin before West Ham United (h) on Saturday, September 19. Now back in full training.
 

Cedric Soares
Right calf. Missed Leicester City (a) on Wednesday with tight calf. Being integrated back into full training in the coming days.
 
No other issues from Wednesday’s match at Leicester City
 



Continued status on longer-term injuries:
 

Calum Chambers
Left knee. Ruptured anterior cruciate ligament of his left knee during Chelsea (h) on December 29.

Latest update on Calum:
    • Continues to run outside with team mates and taking part in light ball work.
    • Aiming to be back in full training in October.
 

Pablo Mari
Left ankle. Sustained significant sprain to ankle ligaments during Manchester City (a) on 17 June.

Latest update on Pablo:
    • Continuing outside running and strengthening programme, together with light ball work.
    • Aiming to return to full training within the next two weeks.
 

Gabriel Martinelli
Left knee. Sustained injury during training on June 21.

Latest update on Gabi: 
    • Successful arthroscopic procedure undertaken to repair a lesion in the cartilage of the left knee.
    • Continuing daily strengthening and recovery programme at London Colney.
    • Aiming to return to full training by the end of the calendar year.
 

Shkodran Mustafi
Right hamstring sustained during the Emirates FA Cup semi-final on July 18.

Latest update on Musti:
    • Successful small procedure completed soon after injury.
    • Continuing outside running and strengthening programme, together with light ball work.
    • Aiming to return to full training in October.
 
As part of Premier League protocol, all members of our first-team squad and support staff continue to be regularly tested for COVID-19.

Good thing that Tierney is back in full training. Hopefully, he'll be in the squad tomorrow.
I just no wan see kola for that place abeg

Segedinho:
Yah we all collectively agreed about the fitness and the new signings playing their first game.

Lampard is playing d kinda formation that is well ok with the players we have at hand

We outplayed,outperformed W/B in xterday match.


What then is the reason for the shalaye and lampard

Na you dey shalaye, not me.
From your response above, seems you didn't know the Genesis of what you're arguing about so I'll just let this slide.

Segedinho:
But they are judging with W/B nao..


But u agreed they were outplayed by westham right

They? Your Chelsea fans are the one judging (surprisingly), not even rival fans. So you can face dem, after all na in-house

Of course I agree, but is that Arteta's pattern? No!
So I don't get the fuss. You were outplayed by Brighton this season, does that mean lampard isn't an expressive or attacking coach?