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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:08pm On Sep 27, 2020
Segedinho:
Did u watch Arteta vs westham??


U are just busy writing trash.


Westham outperformed arteta in all ramifications but was unlucky..


His tactics was so poor

But he have Auba who can transform d result
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like Auba scored in that game? grin grin
So you want to use only westham game to judge shey?

Chelsea played rubbish against Brighton.. So If I said you're talking trash about lampard playing expressive and attacking football, am I wrong?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 1:03pm On Sep 27, 2020
iamoyindamola:
Either way, it's working for him.
Wengay that competed with bigger teams got whopped badly and disgraced
Leave am...
Nikkiballer still want make we dey collect 5-1 from him hand year in year out, under the guise of "we're playing expressive football". grin grin

Make him no worry, wen we sign qualities, we go go toe to toe with am
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 12:57pm On Sep 27, 2020
Karleb:
As it is, we'll need our VAR subscription to be up to date for our game against Brighton.

Inspite of our shambolic form, I still believe we'll deal with Arsenal.
So, of all the issues surrounding your club, na arsenal be your problem

Clap for yourself


In fact, I don bookmark am lipsrsealed
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:48pm On Sep 27, 2020
iamoyindamola:
You get time they reply the pained ass dolt grin
if I no reply am, the gospel fit spread say Arteta pattern na Park d bus- locate auba and inshallah.

So before the gospel light, make I quench am angry grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 12:40pm On Sep 27, 2020
Nikiballer:
If arteta had giroud and Tammy Abraham as strikers nko....

arteta is just remain compact,park the bus,play from the back then locate auba for R2 at least lampard teams play expressive futbol
only against Liverpool and Manchester city he does such, and that's because of the strength of those two teams
Other than that he plays expressive football.
And you can't compare Chelsea's midfield to arsenal midfield. Chelsea own is better than arsenal own by far
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 12:12pm On Sep 27, 2020
jpmoriarti:
Lolz I no tire any person biko.

I am here to balance the narrative. It is very easy to move with the crowd and join the bandwagon calling for the heads of everyone in the Barcelona board.

Whenever I hear an argument, overwhelmingly in one direction, I tend to step aside and evaluate the reverse.

I have done so here. I have come to the conclusion that Messi and co are as culpable as the board members in these Barcelona situation.

It takes two to tango.
I get your point, you don't wanna join the bandwagon, which is a very great idea.
But sometimes you need to do things so that you won't be a villain, under the pretext that "you wanna be different".

It's no good looking for fault wen there's none, just because others said there's actually none(wen actually there's no fault).
Just my drift sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 10:12am On Sep 27, 2020
joviegghead:
Please share these games o. I'm waiting.

So Messi MUST be PERFECT abi. He must score in every match and assist twice in every match before you know he's working.

You're trying so hard to be different by attacking Messi. Stop wasting your time. Claiming 'club first' mentality.

The things I read here ehn. It's on this thread I see someone saying Messi walks too much. He should start running. Someone that reads the game better than all and finds the perfect position to score and assist.
I didn't want to even mention that, cos if I do, he might just call 2 or 3 games. Or he might even call games messi played well but didn't score or assist.. Lol.

The guy tire person sha
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 10:09am On Sep 27, 2020
GrammarNazi1:
You ARE intelligent.
Thank you Sir
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 9:20am On Sep 27, 2020
jpmoriarti:
After a very bad year, no one escapes reckoning when it finally arrives. If your team underperformed, every one of you will be under the microscope. If you think you performed well yet the sum total of the team's performance is alarming, then it means you're definitely doing something wrong.

You are trying so hard to isolate Messi from taking blame for the being part of the rot. But I can give alot of games where Messi dropped disaster class performance.
Lol... I give up. @the bolded.

And yes, I'm not a barca fan or a messi fan, but I'll isolate a player who scores and assist 20+ goals and assist each in just the league. A job of an attacker is to score and/ or assist and he did that immensely.

If others couldnt do their part, then it's no fault of his.

There's a reason a player can win best player, even if his team isn't the champion. It's because they acknowledge that he performed his role excellently well even if he teammates were flopping
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 8:05am On Sep 27, 2020
hensben:
I watched the match. Lampard approach to game is rubbing on our results and the way the team play. Don’t be surprise Kepa is not that bad but his consistent changing of CB partners is a weakness to any goalkeeper. See how Arteta organize arsenal to play, he already has his winning team and tactics and he is building on that.
I understand you, but if there's anything to blame lampard, it's not ystdys match. You calling for lampard sack cos of ystdy match is uncalled for
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 7:48am On Sep 27, 2020
jpmoriarti:
You can't. Do not forget this is a team sport. No player can perform better than the team.
True, at the bolded, but every player have its role to play in the team individually. Now if every player plays their role well, the team most times will win.
But what if only 1 player plays his role well and others disappoints. Would you still blame the 1 player who did his excellently cos others was bad?
Please answer this logically
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Jodera: 7:44am On Sep 27, 2020
hensben:
Lampard contributed to the fault, he likes to try new thing all the time, always experimenting, I mean why give sylva captain arm band. What do you expect sylva to feel like with that move.
I'm tempted to ask.. Did you watch the match?
Cos the way you're going about this, seems you just want to blame lampard cos of the scoreline without even watching the match
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Jodera: 7:24am On Sep 27, 2020
jpmoriarti:
I am not trying to sound objective here. I am only looking out for the club first. Messi's criticisms of the club may be well founded, but it shouldn't be done constantly on the pages of Instagram. That's unbecoming of an employee that he still is.

If you are chairman of an organisation, would you like to be constantly undermined by your employee? Just because this employee is Messi, makes no difference.

Besides, the blames of present rot in the club shouldn't be squarely laid on the board alone. The playing squad, of which Messi is an integral part, haven't covered themselves in glory either. They've grossly underperformed. Everyone gets a fair share of their blame. Become self critical. Find lasting solutions and we move on.

This has been my argument all along.
So you mean even if everyone is underperforming as a team except messi, messi must still share the blame?
Like someone can't have an outstanding season even if the club is faltering?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:31am On Sep 27, 2020
jamalnation:
there was a chelsea finished 8th and won the league the following season. leicester from championship to champions. so its very possible

we all knw arsenal problem is not scoring is it about defending have a rock like partey covering d defence would reduce goals we concide drastically

Pepe had a mixed season he will definately improve

Adding partey & aouar would make us contender you don't have to down play it
Here you are going overboard again. Chelsea was champions a season before they finished 10th in the league. So it's not as if the 10th wasn't a one-off.
Same as Leicester, that story happens once in a thousand years.

What we need is progress first(which is top 4), then we can look at winning the league. If we win the league this year then fine, but then, what we should be realistically looking out for is top4(with or without those 2). That's the logical thing to do.






And please, you can make your point without striking out my comment, I'll really appreciate that, Thanks!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 6:23am On Sep 27, 2020
Kbs468:
They do have of course but their movement is dependent on the said suitors selling too to create vacancy for them.

And it's been bad news upon bad news now as Torino deal is off for Torreira just like Manchester City is trying to create one for sokratis now
Hmmm.. This season will be long for us oo
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:17pm On Sep 26, 2020
Kbs468:
hmmḿḿmmmnn with just 8 days to go in the transfer window
Aside Torreira, is it that the other ones doesn't have any potential suitors ni?
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 9:16pm On Sep 26, 2020
Kbs468:
Yes Nigeria do have indeed





FANS

Arsenal Supporters ClubNigeria





Arsenal Supporters Club Nigeria was set up in 2004 by four staunch Gunners fans and received its official recognition from Arsenal in 2005 and since then has grown to include branches from different states and regions within the country such as Arsenal Port Harcourt, Arsenal Jos, Arsenal Abuja, Arsenal Ado Ekiti, Arsenal Uyo etc .

The club is run via branches / zonal arrangements and does not have a particular location as a meeting point considering its growth and further penetrations of more states within the federation.

Zones are authorised to hold meetings, share views etc , with the majority of groups gathering every weekend to screen live matches.

It holds various activities during the year, including road shows, an end-of-season party(Annual General Meetings) and seminars

Contact Emeka C Onyenuforo, onyenuforo.emeka@yahoo.com / arsenalnigeriaarsenalnigeria@yahoo.co.uk for more.
Mehn. You get all infos oo.
Kudos!!!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 8:42pm On Sep 26, 2020
daveP:
Iwobi has declined since he left. The Arsenal Iwobi cannot be benched in Everton which is a fact many don't wanna hear.
so you saying this

daveP:
Aouar is just an Iwobi that shoots at goal. That's my own opinion after watching him sincerely. They are very much similar in style of play. But as usual, no one would love to see it that way.
. Are you for Aouar or you're having a little doubt about him?. Esp with the bolded from the first quote.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:58pm On Sep 26, 2020
afrodoc2:
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I think AWB himself said so at sometime. He must have been playing for a girl's team.
I swear, na real girls team him bin play for.. grin cheesy
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:56pm On Sep 26, 2020
chrisley024:
Ok. Maybe we define motivation differently cos for me, Fergie warned Evra, which is the "treating the players fvckup" I wrote, not encouraging a player to perform better.
Exactly...
Motivation comes in different ways not just sweet talking.
We've the hair-dryer treatment, benching treatment, ginger treatment, sweet talking and persuasion and all.
A coach who knows how to blend all these things at the right time is a good motivator.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:53pm On Sep 26, 2020
afrodoc2:
On that Ole sitting down like a spectator thing that one has been confirmed. Only God knows why he keeps sitting down when things are not going right.

In terms of having a creative pattern of play as well Ole is an otu. Players pass and stay in the same position. It is a makanaki something.

But what people tend to do here is pile all the blame on one person. Rather than being balanced with criticism.

While it is fair to say Ole should have stood up to correct him, it is also fair to note that even though the formation was switched to help AWB he did his best to cancel whatever the coach did to help him.
At least we've got an understanding. Awb is to be blamed too but ole seeing that his change is not executed in field of play and still keep mute, that's my issue too(tbh).


Wait, was it here someone says Awb was a winger during his youth team days??
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:38pm On Sep 26, 2020
afrodoc2:
Does the player have ANY responsibility in his own performance.

The coach saw he was struggling to cope with the Brighton wing back system and switched his formation and moved him to Right WB with the extra security of a RCB (Bailly) behind him.

Making him a Right WB back matched him directly against the opposing Left Wing back (in this case March). Any smart defender would know his primary duty AND the major reason for the switch in formation was for him to close down the wing back who had been peppering our goal post with shots.
Instead AWB was going narrow to crowd the 6 yard box with 3 other CBs.

At what point do we give some blame to the defender who, rumor has it, was born with a brain just like the rest of humanity.
Lol... This your sly dig to Awb no be here sha.

Back to the discourse. Yes, Awb is to be blamed, but then, I guess only very few players (no matter how professional they're) are just left to do their things without a manager dishing out instructions one way or the other...

It's a simple sturv, ole sees that Awb is still tucking in with CBs even after the change. The manager seeing that, still left him without trying to make him do what is right?
It's so so bad. There's a reason why the coach have a seat close to the pitch and not up in the stands like fans. It's for simple things like this, and to call players to order in case they err, and not just viewing like fans
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:19pm On Sep 26, 2020
afrodoc2:
Structural change?

The guy switched to a 3 man defense and added a RCB just so that AWB could better match March but AWB kept going narrow.

Unless you wanted Ole to physically go on to the pitch and move AWB like a LEGO.
But what's wrong with that? If you see your player is not carrying out your instruction, what stops a coach from telling the player what he needs to do. Or telling the assistant to tell the player what to do?
Even fergie comes out once in a while to give out instructions wen things isn't going as planned. No be every time him dey sit down chew chewing gum. And I'm sure fergie would have stood up to give Awb instructions in today's match too.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 5:14pm On Sep 26, 2020
chrisley024:
Players that earn huge money per week still need to be motivated. What exactly for huh

Btw, I doubt Fergie motivates that much, maybe Klopp does, instead he treats your fvckup grin
Fergie motivates... I mean he motivates well.

In fact, few pages ago here, someone posted few pictures of evra words on how fergie motivated him. He talked about how he was having a good game of his life, but fergie warned him that he's not playing at the best the way he wanted him to play and warned that if he continues like that, he'll bench him.
In fact, they're so many evra talked on how fergie do motivate and ginger them.

Now to the bolded, that's the main reason why the need to be motivated because with huge pay, they'll feel they've arrived. A coach needs to always lighten up the players' fire whether on bench or starting 11. That's why we've chicarito always coming from bench to score, Anderson always putting shift. Jones and smalling with cleverly carrying league. You think it's only just tactics that'll make them die on the field with passion ...Lol
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:48pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
Even a Mourinho couldn't make Pogba do that

I have given up on Pogba defending ever since
Mou ke? We're talking of good motivators, you're talking of person wey dey fight with players with almost all the clubs he's coached.
undecided undecided
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:47pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
cheesy
Ole told him not to mark March huh
I don't know. But what I do know is that I've never seen a wing leak for over 90min the way Awb wing leaked today without any structural change from the gaffer.
This is the first time I'm seeing such
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:44pm On Sep 26, 2020
odizeey:
You are just wasting time. Leave Akin Alabi alone. cheesy
grin grin
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: The Red & White Army: 2025/2026 EPL Champions! by Jodera: 4:43pm On Sep 26, 2020
BlueRayDick:
Which yeye playmaker? Which year was that exactly?

Bring out facts and figures to back this ur claim of “our best playmaker” . Show me why his sale was wrong. I want to check something
I know Iwobi was good wen he broke through arsenal rank. He was very influential for us, cos I know him as one of arsenal player who hardly got dispossessed and his passes was good.
Tho he started regressing as the years went by...
One thing I know I hate about his play was his inability to score. He can't shoot a ball to save his life
Is arsenal wrong to sell him? No
Is he good at creating openings and chances? Yes

If aouar can be a better and scoring version of the iwobi I know, then I don't mind tbh!
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:27pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
Nothing is more poisonous in a team than an unserious player

90% of man United players this season are looking unserious
Make dem serious first let's know who the thunder will fire
that's what you're getting wrong.
If 90% of a team are unserious , then it's the fault of the coach for not motivating them.
I mean they're not serial winners that you might think they'll be complacent.. No!
So what makes them unserious?

I assure you, if a klopp or guardiola handle this team, you go see pogba they run from opponent post to his post to defend. You'll see less of show boating pogba.
That's what a good manager does.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:22pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
I never said that

I said they both have a hand in the blame meaning the blame goes around

If I was the coach for this game aswear as I dey substitute Pogba I go tear am slap and for bissaka I go stone am shoe.
For bissaka, I think it's up to coach. That structure was too wrong for a wing to be free for 90m yet nothing is done. That's not bissaka fault, that's on ole. He should have made sure that wing was express the way it is
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:16pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
Assuming you are ole

Let's say you train this guy's to play in a specific way and when they play they keep misplacing pass, running and leaving the ball behind or slow up the game

Now you want to bench the modafvckers responsible

You look bench no hope
Wetin you go do
Switch things up. That's why you're a coach. Play to your players strength instead of doing "one thing one thing" and your players are faltering.
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Jodera: 4:10pm On Sep 26, 2020
KingAlabi:
No system !!??

Abi when Bruno wan pass he will pass it unto opposition players back

Abi Pogba go first dance shaku shaku before im pass

Abi martial and rashford go wan do 1 2 pass forget the ball for back

Or Shaw go wan pass to rashford pass am for throw in


No system go work with this stupid players angry
The way you dey undervalue your player is alarming. Granted, they normally do those 1 or 2 nonsense that you highlighted, but come on, the coach has a say in making them do things differently and better.
If it's lack of motivation, a coach needs to know how to motivate his players.
That a group of players decides wen to turn up or not is down to the coach for allowing such.
Brighton outplayed you guys, but with all the talents at man u, you still believe is the players fault and not coach's fault.
That Awb wing is an expressway like kubwa express road, and march was having a field day, you still think it's not olé fault but the players(probably Awb)? Lol...

See, a good coach improve players, and if with the talent of pogba, Bruno, martial greenwood etc are on the pitch, and you still say it's the players' fault and not coach's.. Then hmmm,....

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