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kokaneprodigy:
Na the koko be this I tell u,

I swear.

I'm just thinking, Arteta will be forced to use 343 if we don't get a proper AM

I heard arsenal are close to ceballos return for another 1yr deal. Good news if it's true.

Can't wait for the expected DM and Am tho

kokaneprodigy:
how aggressive is Griezman and Gabriel Jesus?

of all the teams sef, she called PSG which was indeed laughable. PSG that have one of the least aggressive attack among top teams, but are very good at counters(Auba's forte). A side that contains declined cavani, icardi and choupo morting as their 9 is what Auba cannot make? I just laff.

BlueRayDick:

Baba I just couldn't resist the urge to do throwback Monday ni jàre especially when Kokaneprodigy just last week thought I was one of the few that refused to see Auba's quality and call him Tap-In king.

I'm sure kokane now knows the people that always want Auba out to accommodate Lacazette's gidigbo striking style of play

Lol... Make I no lie sha, I was also among those that wanted auba out to accommodate lacazette (you remember the argument then that we can't have 2 elite strikers and make both happy, so we need to sell one?). Thank goodness Auba made me eat my words, he's improved so much in his all round play(which I think some people haven't noticed) and he rarely misses big chances unlike before.

ndidibabe:
But truth be said, Auba has limitations. He can score but he is not a threat when there is no space for him to hit a goal. He doesn't dribble, he is not aggressive and doesn't make good use of his pace. For me, he is just an average player but a good striker. Will he make the first eleven in teams like Mancity, Barcelona, Madrid, PSG, Liverpool or Bayern? Definitely No!. These teams play aggressive football and he won't fit in.

. Some times, we call names of big clubs just for the sake of it.

So you think if he goes to PSG now, he won't walk straight to the first team.

I agree aguero is better than him, but with Agu injured, you think Jesus will give him run for the money?

And barca, if not for the politics there, most barca fans would prefer Auba to present day Suarez, any day, anytime, twice on Weekends.

So that's half of the teams I've mentioned that he can start. Sometimes, I believe we tend to underrate some of our players when compared to other teams without actually looking at those teams involved

BlueRayDick:
Hey God!

The kind blasphemy I Don read for Here ehn

We dey tell them that time say na our grinding machine Emery ball tactics be the be problem dem no gree, dem say Auba na Tap-Ins only he dey score. Funny thing ehn, he was the league's joint top scorer that season ó

I dedicate this grinding machine to Fkhalifa my guy and other members of his football school of thought

Which kain End of the month receipt be this?
Ehn BlueRayDick..

iamoyindamola:
It's what it is bro

Where is fkhalifa

It's true sef.. He rarely comment on arsenal nowadays

BlueRayDick:
As in.....two very different scenarios. In this case we have two good keepers in their prime. In fact they are age mates ( both born in 1992). It's not like one would retire for the other soon o.

Only God knows how Arteta will handle the situation sha

The bolded is the key word.

Also, Leno is German. Germans don't use their nationality to play. Neuer with time will soon retire and he'll be left with just ter stegen to drag the no 1 spot with. Is it with cup competitions he'll compete MTS?
That is what will be going through his mind

BlueRayDick:
It is not as easy as u say. The moment Arteta makes it obvious Martinez gets to keep EPL matches Leno cup matches; believe me Leno will be unsettled and several top clubs will come trying to tempt him with mouthwatering offers and even promise of a starting role.

Don't be surprised if a team like Chelsea that is currently facing goalkeeper issues come bidding for him. Trust me he will be tempted to move and damn all consequences

Lol..
Na wetin make me talk "hmmm" for kokane post.

Cech-leno scenario isn't like Leno-martinez one bit

kokaneprodigy:
any reservations on the bolded

Lol.. No reservation. A very good idea

But you made it sound so easy.

kokaneprodigy:
There shouldn’t be headaches , Martinez handles EPL. Leno handles Europa, FA and EFL.

Hmmm

Spy360:
Hmmmm!

Remember our wager?

CC Jodera, mostob

Lol..
Please remember me, I don forget

BlueRayDick:
He's turning out to be a good squad player which is impressive. If it's possible to bring in a decent midfielder without selling him, I will gladly welcome the addition of such players in the mould of Partey and Co.

He seem to be a player u can always call upon when u need to tinker with Ur formation/selection. If he can keep up with this above average performances then I will gladly support his staying put.( although this may mean he will keep getting played out of his natural position which I doubt will make him happy)

That said, please don't think he didn't one of his occasional rubbish yesterday ó. He did one useless skill yesterday just from nowhere. It was unnecessary and ouf of the blues; just like he had programmed himself that if he doesn't do the skill he will not forgive himself.

But as an individual I always like to focus on the good people do than their wrong doings...He impressed above all yesterday

...
The bolded was funny

Well, it's nice hearing your view and I agree with it

BlueRayDick:
Actually Mitland-Niles was the man of the match. He had the left side of defence/midfield on lockdown and made Sallah silent all game. Ibe never seen Salah that silent in a game, I think camera only focused on Salah twice in the game ; one when he was trying to push attack and the other time when the penalties were being played.

Oh wow! I think I read , was it Roland or Iamonyindamola that said Nelson (maybe from their view) and since the official MOTM is Niles. Then that's great. It means both of them gave at least a 7 rating performance. Niles really have improved very well, starting from the fa cup s/f wen it was evident. Locking down salah(as you opined) is really a great feat, and he's consistently growing in that wing back position of his and making it his own. If he continues like this, I don't mind us keeping him.

I want to hear your views, would you still want him sold especially as he's locking down that wingback role excellently?

BlueRayDick:
Well, hopefully he can but we should sha get a midfielder...either AM or DM to give Arteta enough options when he needs to tinker some games.


I've noticed Arteta is a very intelligent coach, he's not one of those coaches like Pep that sticks with just one straight football philosophy even when things are not going his way. He always take his opponent as the come and look at ways to neutralize them. He has done it against Man City, loserpool twice, Chelsea and it's no longer looking like a fluke. I hope they support him enough to get his own kinda players sha

I also noticed that about Arteta too. He's very intelligent, it's no coincidence Pep chose him as his assistant when(I believe) they didn't have any prior history. (Open to correction tho)

I believe we should just get an Am and DM. The kind of players really improving under Arteta is really amazing. I was thinking all guys would say it's auba that'll be MOTM, but wen I read here people saying that Nelson of all people (no offence to him oo..lol) and you saying Elneny played like a new signing yesterday, I'm just so doubly convinced Arteta is the right man for us.. Early days tho, but it looks so so much promising.

The winnings
The Mentality
The defence improvement
Individual improvements.
Tactical blueprint pattern.

Long may our progressive upturn continue

COYG!!

BlueRayDick:
The picture below answers the bold part of Ur post.

I just open mouth seeing Elneny playing Like A New Signing (LANS)

Wow...
That's really great. If he can transform him to be great, then he'll easily fill the void of ceballos then.(if we can't get him back)

In that case, we'll still need an attacking midfielder and a DM.
If the early days are signs, then good to see ceballos being replaced

Congratulations to we arsenal.
Seems once we carry the Fa cup, community shield must follow. It's like buy 1, get 1 free .

Well, I couldn't get to watch the match yesterday cos I was on the road traveling throughout. From most comment here, I heard we played very well.

Please how was Elneny Game ystdy for those that watched the match? Did he inspire confidence?

iamoyindamola:
I can't pity Nelson because he and Sancho were like twins

Hian!
Lol
You funny oo

Spy360:
Thanks for asking.

1. Like all opportunity costs, you rue your losses.

2. Restrategise in case of future occurrence. Such as including buy back clauses, or bonus payments for future deals if the player moves to a higher club.

A club like RB Leipzig has affiliates in other countries where their prospects can move to. We can decide to be feeding a club in Germany, Holland, France or Spain.


NB: As you can see the argument is to just acknowledge that you missed something.

OK...
We're good then.
I've understood you perfectly now

iamoyindamola:
Willock and Nelson should be next
No time!!!

I fit pity nelson, but you see willock.
Na straight to crystal palace him suppose dey go

iamoyindamola:
Especially when the player have one good season, he will request for transfer immediately na that player club suppose loyal to?
Rvp transfer still they pain me because the idiot had just one good season before he requested for transfer and wengay have been nursing his injuries since forever

Rvp own na shocker!!
Seriously, we need to be ruthless.
All these pampering of Gibbs, wilshere, Ramsey, diaby them, see where it landed us. The aforementioned 4 are no where to be found sef. If you don't give any top performance to nail a spot for at least 2 seasons, any bid that comes, we suppose sell, while looking for a replacement.
Simple

Spy360:
You can't find any? I listed 6 bro

And I said apart from Kane others won CL.

He even talked about Diarra as if he's shiit. The guy was a major player for Real Madrid.

What of Sylvinho? He was a major player for Barcelona.

All of them had the same effect on fans as Gnabry.

I am not saying we should be crying. I am saying no one knows tomorrow.

We can sell AMN because we think he is average, but that doesn't mean he cannot find his stars.

I will sell AMN for a good price, but I must also acknowledge that there may be an opportunity cost.

I think this is the issue of our back and forth..
So lemme ask.
1.. If you acknowledge that there's an opportunity cost and he turns out good like debruyne, what will you do?

2..Also, what would you do the mitigate the negative effect of the opportunity cost you're acknowledging.

If you can answer this two, I would love to hear your view

Spy360:
Different reasons could make a club release a player like in the case of Lukaku, playing style. If Ozil leaves and turns to Messi 2.0 else where we will understand. But and but, we lost something. Yes we may have gained somehow, but we lost something.

AMN brought up the argument, releasing him as a surplus may turn out in two opposite ways, but if he blows we lose the buying club gains. It becomes an opportunity cost to us. If he flops it's our gain. It could go either way. For someone to conclude that AMN has passed his peak is being short sighted and ignorant.

Nobody says he's passed his peak. We just said he can't see him as a upcoming potential again to hold down a spot. So why not sell him and get someone who can do that job greatly. That's the point. Iwobi is another example, he's good but he has so many flaws, best biz is we sell him and buy and top player that can give us more than iwobi. If iwobi shines elsewhere, then fine, it comes with the business, but we shouldn't brood over something that is past(except if the trend keeps repeating and we're getting worse off).

Likewise, if we can sell Niles and reinvest the money properly, nothing will concern us if Niles is shining elsewhere (except he turn messi) as long as our own players are shining. Simple.
Gnabry just shine well this season oo, if we're playing like man city or Liverpool, do you think you'll give a fvck about gnabry?

Spy360:
@ Jodera

I restricted it to Arsenal so that iamoyindamola will not think it's only other clubs that make mistakes and every player Arsenal released must be useless.

For Madrid, who told you they exchanged Scnieder and Robben for Ronaldo? Even if that was the case, there was still an opportunity cost as both players went on to peak further especially Robben and could have saved Madrid in those few years of mediocrity. The luck they have is that they have enough money to replace missed alternatives/opportunities.

But like I said, these things are normal. It's a game of win and lose.

No, it's good you restricted it to arsenal, cos as iamoyindamola says, arsenal have one of the average youth academy products. So he challenged you to bring players who went and become superstars like gnabry is for Bayern. Even me sef I'm finding it hard to find any.. Lol.

See, there'll always be opportunity cost, in every business, there'll always be losses, it's just ensuring your profit exceeds your loss or as Blueray said about risk mgt, you count the cost of one for a potential big profit. I remember us having Sanchez the duration gnabry left us, would you think I would want gnabry over Sanchez then? Since gnabry wants a transfer, we sold him and get our profit while Sanchez is giving us the results. The reward is greater than the risk and that's what blueray is trying to tell you since. Niles is at best a squad player for arsenal for the past how many years, we should sell him if there's bid and use it to get a good top player. If he succeeds in another club fine, if not, good luck to him. I'm tired of Wenger philosophy to be honest, no more time..

Spy360:
I think you miss my point. I am totally in for all you posted here. No arguments at all. Players come and go. Some do well some flop. Some are early risers some are late bloomers.

My point is that releasing a young prospect is an opportunity cost. It sounds familiar, but we need to acknowledge it in our discuss.

Some clubs go back to get those players, some move on. Which ever the case, there is always an acknowledgement that whenever a released player finds his stars, the club lost.

it's not necessarily true. Lukaku is shining at inter, but looking deeply, you won't say man u lost. He doesn't fit to their style of play so it's a win win for both parties.
There's high tendency that even if gnabry had stayed with us, he wouldn't reach such height he's having now. That you sell a player and he turns out good elsewhere doesn't mean you lost....


But for the rest, I think we understand ourselves then

Spy360:
Let's keep our differences aside and discuss Saturday's Community Shield with Liverpool.

For me, it's good it's coming in the middle of transfers so that we can easily assess our squad strength and depth.

My first 11, which I think Arteta should make a mix of experience, youth, new players and fringe players,

Saka .......... Lacazette .......... Pepe

................. Smith-Rowe................ ..

.... Xhaka.......... ............... AMN......

Tierney... Luiz.......... Saliba.. Soares

........................ Leno ........................

Subs

Aubameyang (in case things go south )
Nketiah
Willian
Nelson
Ozil
Elneny
Holding
Martinez

is this for an upcoming friendly match or against Liverpool community shield?

Spy360:
Study this list carefully though certainly not exhaustive. I am restricting it to Arsenal though I must not.

1. Andy Cole
2. Harry Kane
3. Carlos Vela
4. Sylvinho
5. Oxlade Chamberlain
6. Lasana Diara

Let me stop here.

These are young Arsenal rejects that went on to succeed. Apart from Kane and Carlos Vela who refused big move to Madrid, others won titles including UCL.

Big Think.

Lol...
This your clap back to Sod09, you no try for here at all
In fact eh, I don't want to break down your list one by one, cos either all the players are sub players or bench warmers. And don't even call me Kane sef.
Plenty things to say sha, but if I start typing, I fit type epistles. Funnily, you didn't even drop valid players sef (like kdb for Chelsea)

But one thing is certain, blueray and Sod are very correct. For every Gnabry you'll call, there are 10 wilshere which we would have sold long ago. For every gnabry we might regret selling, there are thousand of diabys we would have sold since. We need to be ruthless. R.Madrid did away with sneijder and robben, but they brought Ronaldo. No Madrid fan will regret such move.

It's even surprising that it's only you that's clamouring over gnabry. From most opinions here, nobody send am. So let's chill, it's not as if Niles is world class. As long as they reinvest the money into better signings, it's a win win for us.

AhmedEmeka:
Put the YouTube videos you watch on your CV as qualifications and apply for a multinational job naw.

CERTIFICATE ARE STILL VERY MUCH IMPORTANT.

Lol.. This is funny and serious

Dpsychologist:
I agree with you on this

However what is the essence of going to the school when you can just learn it on YouTube or google. You paid school fees to learn and at the end you end up not learning much. What is the essence.

My brother, me sef wonder oo.