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Spy360:
A weak defence will not allow creative players to act. They would often be forced to track back instead of pushing forward. A good case is Ceballos, despite having the nous to make defense splitting passes, he is often forced to stick to DM because once he leaves there the chances of conceding becomes high.

When you watch our match against City, Pep brought in Fernandinho even when he was searching for a goal. He knows that with F. covering the defensive line, KDB and Sterling wouldnt be looking backwards.

Ceballos is a deep lying playmaker for arsenal. He isn't an Am. In fact, I think he's more of a cm than Am as a player. That's why I said we need an Am. To be fair, on the bolded, I think it's the reverse. It's a good midfield and attack that make an average defence look good, cos defence won't be under unnecessary pressure. The creative players will do their work cos they know they'll see more of the ball, so they'll be focused on attacking.

Fkhalifa:
Liverpool scored 5 yesterday, and I still dey read from a fan Complaining, Sallah was a flop in the game that he could have buried 4 chances.
I.e, Aside scoring 5 in a big game, they still create numerous goal scoring chances.

Now that's an attack covering for bad defensive performance of the day.

On the contrary, Arsenal will pass to the side,back,side,back to Luiz who will then play long ball to the opposition goalie, then struggle to score from Auba and Saka's creativity.

Then go back to passing for another long period of time, only for the opposition to mount pressures which our defenders would resist/combat, but eventually capitulate and concede from one/two errors of the defenders.

And gbam everyone makes the defenders as the scapegoat.

This have been my point since that's making me say our defence isn't as bad as it's been painted. All these things is just media. I hardly see us create and fluff numerous chances, we feed on scraps, yet it's the defence that concedes 1-2 goals per match that's the issue. Everybody will love Liverpool's game ystdy saying they scored 5 goals neglecting that they conceded 3. The day we start creating chances and scoring goals then we start committing errors consistently in defence is the day I'll join the "we need new CBs urgently" bandwagon

sylvalord:
Leicester will come at us guns blazing on Sunday. I won’t advice even my enemy to bet on Man Utd getting even a point from that game. We will lose if these idiots play like this.

These motherfuckers are uber useless. Both the manager, his assistants and the players. All of them are useless bastards. Pressing is so uncoordinated, just running around like headless chickens. The only sensible attacking play was the goal.

The most annoying thing is that if those useless bunch of players had even a bit more urgency about their play, they would have beaten Westham. Westham just sat back and their defending wasn’t that spectacular. We had so many chances to run in behind their defense, give quick line-breaking passes. But the idiots decided to just stand around like a bunch of sticks (like that foolish Ole called them) and romance the ball a thousand times before either giving a wrong pass or losing the ball.

These fools had better get their act right. The fans won’t be patient forever

#GGMU no matter what happens though

Omo, all these shalaye on top draw? Na wa oo

iamoyindamola:
Aston villa need to win and Watford also need to win on sunday before the fa cup final against Chelsea

Lol.. So you think we don't wanna be serious in this match?

3 out and out striker in a match?
This is interesting

Kbs468:
okay but I thought it happened in the past when an FA CUP runners up went to Europa league because the champions are already in the champions league

when we won the fa cup in 2014 and 2015, I don't remember hull and Aston Villa respectively going for Europa the next season. Nor did I remember Watford going for Europa this season after been a losing finalist again Manchester city

Kbs468:
Arsenal has qualified for the Europa league next season whether we win the FA CUP or not because Chelsea will qualify for the champions league as 3rd or 4th placed team

Na I don't think so.
The rule says, Fa cup winner, if not 5th and 6th goes to europa

nitrogen:
Lol, you Chelshit boys should take it easy o..........dont forget that what goes around comes around.

Na the "comes around" be this na.
Which other go around e wan go again?

Postdigger, where you at?
We need you to start digging all manure fans' post of the last one month

wman:
See them saying the game doesn't matter after making mouth all week.

You sef see am?

kokaneprodigy:
I repeat with paucity of funds Xhaka will be a good squad player.

Seconded and Thirded

iamoyindamola:
Auba!!!

Bros, be careful.
You should be crying not shouting Auba here

Just observing sha

iamoyindamola:
He likes gidigbo football, you suppose Dan know na
If you play football with him I can assure you your legs won't go Scot free

Lol...
As in athletico oo.
Khalifa go be ruffian I swear.

Fkhalifa:
Our Skin is Thicker, some of you can cope or still be positive and hopeful. Me I'm tired!

See Chelsea and utd, strengthening and for sure they can dream top4.
Arsenal, we're sliding down gradually, and most of you perceive it not.
We can't even make Europa, and we are seeing positives.

Apart from that, I'll gladly take the Fabregas,Hleb,Rosciky days back, no trophy but I enjoy football like I'm cauming

Seeing Xhaka,Kola and Sokratis gives me no joy.
Auba,Pepe and Ozil frustrate me on the ball.

I want half of the squad out asap. I watch teams like Atlectico,Atalanta, Wolves etc to give me joy nowadays.

lol..
I dunno how team like athletico and wolves gives you joy tho

Spy360:
But I have confidence in him. I have always had confidence in him even before he signed on.

He stated his first priority was to change the subject atmosphere in the dressing room. He did so.

Then he said he wanted to change the mentality of the players. He has do that to a large extent.

The next thing he wants to do is to give the team an identity. After that he will get us quality players.

I love this guy.

That's what happens when your tutor is guardiola. I think it rubbed off on him

iamoyindamola:
That bolded from khalifa is the truth, arsenal made me lose interest in football honestly

me too. I've lost interest in football too(this season tho), cos of arsenal but I can't see myself supporting another English team. Maybe if it's away from England it's understandable, but to support your yearly opponents? How do you guys do that? Lol

Fkhalifa:
If Liverpool face any team in the world,(not Europe or England o) and I see 2 of Sallah,Mane and Firminho, I'm confident of positive outcome, and should Liverpool lose the game, the opposition must have suffered great pressure.

Infect, that fast drugged pressing and energy all over the field they give person joy.

BTW, Liverpool na like Side chick o, Kokane sef dey do MILF

I dey use one eye wait till Dangote or any football loving person/persons take over.

I just need to enjoy football elsewhere, as I have seen myself in recent times losing interest cos of Arsenal.

lol.. Fair enough sha.
Plus fair weather fan

Fkhalifa:
Me I can't see any improvement kan kan, go see games like Atalanta,Wolves,Atlectico etc.

I don't enjoy Arsenal's football at all. I need to start enjoying it first, I can endure trophyless seasons for now.

So na Liverpool dey give tiu joy now? So if arsenal turns things around, you'll now leave Liverpool for arsenal again ba?

iamoyindamola:
You don't get, these players are limited to spark to life once in a while..
They are serial losers, sure there's improvement until you see them losing matches that are winnable
Example are spurs game band Brighton

Hmm... This isn't Arteta's team yet. That's why I feel you jumped too early. Like me, I hardly watch arsenal games after the restart. It would be better that way sef, than to go support another team.
Tomorrow, Manchester city (your new love), will play against arsenal (your ex), how will you feel watching that match?

iamoyindamola:
I have seen enough bro, I endure this mediocrity since wengay days. It's runs in the club mentality now they don't care

This is not Wenger bro.
Aren't you seeing improvements in our play? At least, you for wait till next season to see how far instead of moving to man city in January transfer window

Roland17:
@Kokaneprodigy & Jodera
This shoe describes @Fkhalifa & now @iamoyindamola

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Na Sod09 own shock me

Fkhalifa:
We still have that sympathy loff

If you hear say your current gf dey show sympathy to her ex. You no go vex?

I can see you no dey enjoy your new marriage, .

kokaneprodigy:
The guy matter tire me, him and Sod keep coming back to their ex.

Lol..
They can't do without their ex no matter how hard they try and pretend

Fkhalifa:
I just hope this your oyinbo will not turn to curse and yabbing on him should he be struggling at 7th,8th,9th next season.

Shey you no go leave us go Liverpool thread?

Spy360:
Apart from his onfield coaching, I must state that I admire the intelligence of Mikel Arteta when he speaks. Brutally honest, inspiring, simple, respectful, with no drama.

This guy is heading somewhere. Best decision the board has made so far.

I agree with the bolded.
I'm just waiting to see how our transfer window will turn out. Hopefully, it'll be great

Spy360:
This is Arteta today, I mean today...



To your question, Dortmund had Hummels, Schmelzer and Subotic. The first two were German NT CBs.

Leicester had Morgan and Huth, Leicesters's defensive output was more due to their team formation. They played a defensive 442 that season and caught most teams on counter. In fact Leicester is the typical 'defense win me title' example. They scored little but conceded less.

By mentioning Leicester you shoot yourself really. Why not mention a team like City?You know you can't because City won the league by changing their entire back line.

More? Eat the humble pie bro, I'm tired.

come on. Laporte came in When they've already won a league title under guardiola and with or without him, they would still have won last season cos he was mostly injured.

So schmelzer is a world class defender, same as Hummels too? Lol. Lemme stop there.

Morgan and Huth?? Seriously?? Great defenders?

Go and check Leicester winning season. They average 2-3 goals per match. And they conceded in over half of the matches that season. So how is that "defence win me title"?
Man city is a good example too but I've brought that one in the beginning.

All your points being brought are been countered with facts, you should be the one eating humble pie bro.
Anyways Let's just agree to disagree.

Fkhalifa:
We the Anfield faithfuls are coming to put you in premium tears.

Spy360:
1 is off.

For no 2, there is no relativity there. We must agree that not conceding guarantees you won't lose at least, worst draw. It goes to show that football is slightly skewed towards defense than attack. I mean, this one is clear

For no 3, I respect your opinion if you differ. You may even be a better manager than Fergie, who knows

No 4 is the real deal. First, you can't use goal ratio. This is because, having a strong defense could mean a very high goal. In fact, we can't use maths stats here, it won't work. A close stat could be no of goals needed to win a league season. We do the average and see which teams won below the average. This too is not a yard stick. But let's try?

When I mean goal/goal, I meant both teams conceding(like they hardly keep clean sheets) and not goal ratio the way you interpreted it.
You said I should give you teams that won leagues/major cups and you'll name 2 world class defenders from there.
I called you klopp Dortmund and Leicester.
Both teams hardly kept clean sheets and I want you to name two world class defenders from those teams as you offered to do

kokaneprodigy:
We play Liverpool today, what are ur expectations?

N.B positive vibes only

Lol, the only positive I have is that I'm watching this match without any expectations. This season is over for me till the next season. Make dem just use am understand themselves well

Spy360:
Hahaha. OK. Let's analyse.

First of all we must agree that both defense and attack must be good for a team to be successful.

Secondly, not conceding guarantees you won't lose. But no matter how many goals you score, there is always the probability of losing. You win by how few you concede not by how much you score.

Thirdly the statement you quoted wasn't mine, it was that of Sir Alex Ferguson. The less said I believe the better.

Fourthly, mention any team that won anything and I will give you at least two world class defenders in their ranks. In fact teams have beaten others who possess better attack than theirs due to superior defending. Barcelona Vs Chelsea comes to mind.

Let me stop here.

Lol OK...
Lemme see if I can give my answer to the 4 you posited

1... Yes both of us agree on that one
2.. It's relative. Some sch of thought coaches like Wenger, klopp and guardiola, fergie believe in scoring goals (not as if they don't believe in defence ---( don't get me wrong), but not world class defenders per se) while some others like mourinho and simeone believe in not conceding. I know whom I'll choose between the two classes.
3.. I know it's Ferguson. Lol. But at least you get the message I'm passing across there.
4.. Let's start with Dortmund's klopp. Even Leicester league winning run. Check weda goal/goal no sure that year (using bet9ja slangs)