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jesmond3945:
the friend did something for him which is laudable but cr7 has every right not to do same. Cr7 can decide to help his enemy because you no why it is his money. He owns it and can decide who he wants to give it to. That's why cr7 wants to have more of it by working hard to score more goals while his childhood friend is sipping burutu somewhere waiting for the day he will manipulate him to buy him a car so that cr7 would not be looked at as bad person.

Lol... There's something I call logical debt. This is the debt I believe we owe our parents when they're old and we'll now be the one to take care of them(just as they took care of us). This is the kind of debt when tend to take care of our siblings when we've made it. And that's the kind of debt I believe Ronaldo paid back to his friend. Yes, it isn't written anywhere that he needs to pay his friend back(like you said, he owes him nothing), but it's already written in his conscience that he really have a debt to pay cos it might not be possible to see that break again which his friend made for him. So to Ronaldo, he owes a lot to his friend. And that "debt" isn't debt per say, but just appreciation to Ronaldo.

Also, not taking anything away from Ronaldo, but do you know that somewhere perhaps in Nigeria, there might be someone greater than Ronaldo or messi, but because of the opportunity not afforded to them, they're still in the periphery? Do you think if they have opportunity like Ronaldo had, they won't be eternally grateful and indebted to the person? Lol.
See bro, life isn't always about me me me me. They're some people that helped other people(esp when they're nobody) to become successful, and if they expect some form of appreciation, you can't term that manipulative.

LegalOpinion:
To answer your question directly, NO.

Let me also add that if this guy was a friend indeed, he will not need to look for Kelechi. Kelechi would have started looking for him since 2013.

Lol... We can't be too sure of the bolded.

dna4ril:
Sometimes I wonder how we think in this part of the world...smh

Tell me or mention one great man or woman in history or stil living who made it without the input, sacrifices of others, related or not, friends, etc who gave up time, resources, made sacrifices, some times even gave up their space for the successful person to have.

This are the kind of people you dare not forget if you want to sustain and remain at that echelon of success...not weekend party friends or some fair-weather acquaintances, I mean those who you know without their input you wont be near where you are today...that's one way to keep been up there.

Examples abound, let's look at our present day football icons...look at CR7,someone quoted him, a good example even Messi's life commitment to Barca isn't far -fetched from the fact that it was the club that saw the good in him and harnessed him for the world to see when no one noticed. The picture is, there are people you dare not turn blind eye to when you arrive if you dnt want to be a success of yester-year.

Even Jesus needed someone (Joseph of arithmetia) to help him lift his cross to Calvary...check history, that man's lineage is still been referred to til tomoro cos of that singular act...you and I read of him..

Am not saying this guy's life burdens should be borne by kel but trust me He kel owes posterity a point of duty of remembrance to once a while remember his source..

Like they say a river that forgets his source will soon dry out.I know kel has more potentials than he has ever displayed...Maybe stuffs like this can help speak grace for him when it matters..We all need that extra bit of grace or luck as some wil call it..

For those shouting hussle..hussle..many people are hussling but how many are bussling in the hussle?..things are hard , people re going tru alot..so if you find ursef in a position to help no mata how little esp those who have once contributed to your current state one way or the other, you owe them..yes you do...

One good turn deserves another..
Africans grow...grow.

Simon of Cyrene bro... Joseph of Arimethea was the rich secret disciple of Jesus who asked for the body of Jesus to be buried

odizeey:
No mind Sod.

Seems guys here have not experienced friendship.

Person wen una roll together o.

Do you know what a recommendation by kelechi will do for him? No be even money. One picture. One dinner with the family.

Nobody owes you is the norm of today but e no mean say you no really owe some people. Like an invisible debt.

God bless you! That's why I asked on that thread, if cr7 had forgotten his friend who paved way for him, would people have said cr7 owes him nothing?
Inasmuch we shouldn't wanna claim entitlement mentality, but as you said, there are some people we owe "invisible abi mental debt"

jesmond3945:
See my brother, really nobody owes us anything. This is the reason why we do things for people not because it is the right thing to do but because we will benefit later. Then why do we vilify our young ladies when they only date you for what you will give them. Why do we complain of nepotism, padi padi government and throaway merit. So you expect kelechi to leave working with people who will take me higher to begin looking for Op who might not offer him anything, only to remind him how they played football together and start making demands. This leaning is very manipulative so to speak. Many of our brothers abroad are giving their savings out so as not to look bad even to their own detriment. The world is big like a football field and we can all work hard to achieve our dream. I agree with you if they are close firends closer than a brother.

You know the story of Cr7 and his best friend right? If yes, I wanna ask a question: what if the friend did something close to what cr7 friend to him(C Ronaldo), would you be among those saying kelechi owes him nothing?

charlesm91:
Ronaldo’s story amazes me and teaches me too. If you notice, it’s the same set of friends we hear from his story that he still hangs out with closely up till this day. He tries at least to remember everyone who helped him; the story of two women that fed him burgers as a little kid comes to mind.
While it’s true no one owes nobody nothing, I believe not everybody can make it on their own without some form of help. Others will need strangers to open up the door; and some it’s our close friends/acquaintances that’ll do the job. Point is we all need somebody to lean.

Thank you bro for this write up. God bless

LegalOpinion:
Thank God you finally made a point in the end. Kelechi must have at least a childhood friend he can't forget. Not all friends should be remembered.
This guy lamenting here may have done some things that kelechi will remember and ask the bodyguard to block him.

You talked about C-Ronaldo and how he helped his friend. Have you listened to their story as narrated by CR7? Why do you think that was the only friend CR7 ever had from birth?

The friend did something quite sacrificial for cr7 that's why he's having such big benefits. That doesn't mean cr7 will treat some of his friends like that too(after all friends pass friends, and friends get levels). I wanna ask a question: what if the friend did something close to what cr7 friend to him, would you be among those saying kelechi owes him nothing?

[quote author=LegalOpinion post=89939281]Thank God you finally made a point in the end. Kelechi must have at least a childhood friend he can't forget. Not all friends should be remembered.
This guy lamenting here may have done some things that kelechi will remember and ask the bodyguard to block him.

You talked about C-Ronaldo and how he helped his friend. Have you listened to their story as narrated by CR7? Why do you think that was the only friend CR7 ever had from birth?[/quote] The friend did something quite sacrificial for cr7 that's why he's having such big benefits. That doesn't mean cr7 will treat some of his friends like that too(after all friends pass friends, and friends get levels). I wanna ask a question: what if the friend did something close to what cr7 friend to him, would you be among those saying kelechi owes him nothing?

ojuu4u:
We meet to part and we part to meet. Nooooooobody owes anybody obligations to assist him or her except one's clooooose siblings. Most especially kids, wife and parents.
My closest friend in pry 6 then, years after years, we hardly talk even on Facebook. Did we have quarrel? Not for once.


In Nigeria we normally angry unnecessarly on someone who owes u nothing, when u get to a joint ,if you don't buy for them they become angry, when u board same vehicle you don't pay for then quarrelling, when u date a girl and parted, in future she meets u as better person and refuse to start footing her bills wahala*

I get your drift but pry 6 is too young to say you and someone is very close together and have been through a lot. For you two not to be chatting much on Facebook justifies why your friendship isn't that strong like that.
For the 2nd paragraph, my bolded statement (I feel) answers that, cos someone who's been with you through and through won't even leave you and both of you wont even have lost contact

jesmond3945:
See my brother, really nobody owes us anything. This is the reason why we do things for people not because it is the right thing to do but because we will benefit later. Then why do we vilify our young ladies when they only date you for what you will give them. Why do we complain of nepotism, padi padi government and throaway merit. So you expect kelechi to leave working with people who will take me higher to begin looking for Op who might not offer him anything, only to remind him how they played football together and start making demands. This leaning is very manipulative so to speak. Many of our brothers abroad are giving their savings out so as not to look bad even to their own detriment. The world is big like a football field and we can all work hard to achieve our dream. I agree with you if they are close firends closer than a brother.

My brother, I get your point. Now why I'm saying all these is how some people get to the top and forgot those who sacrificed for them only to forget them as say "let them go hustle their own". Point is, it's not as if you should help everyone as a must or accommodate everybody, but there are very few people in our life that suppose to have that help from you. Now I don't know this Guy's story with kelechi, but if they're so so close and they've been through a lot together, it's unfair of kelechi to just shut him out like that(like I said, if it's true).

Sometimes, when people shout, "nobody owes you anything, even your closest friends", sometimes I just shake my head.
Either people are surrounded by wicked friends or they don't share so many fond memories with some close friends that they just forget them easily. I know if C. Ronaldo have forgotten his closest friend who made way for him to rise to stardom, some wicked people will say Ronaldo doesn't owe him anything. Thank God Ronaldo isn't like that.
Back to the matter, there are some people in life you can't and ought not to forget no matter how made you've made it in life. Yes, this life is a personal race, but there some people who helped you get where you were with their sacrifices and commitment. Being at the top and saying you owe those people nothing and they should go hutsle their own, or saying they have entitlement is been heartless of the highest order. We should stop all these please, only few people (and I mean very few people) get to the top without commitment and sacrifice from people or friends.

Mind you, the above post is for very close friend(s) that you people have passed through a lot together and not normal friend or peer group mates

eph12:
I didn't even bother to respond

Lol... I figured. I just did you the honor

homesteady:
Look at the poem I wrote in support of Buhari in 2015
https://www.nairaland.com/2147781/poem-change
Plus the numerous fights I had with Jonathan's people.

But I can't open my mouth and say Buhari has performed well. The number of atrocious things he has done far outweighs any good he has done. If he had any iota of decency like we all thought, he would have resigned.

Nobody should be quoting phantom figures here, because GEJ guys also did the same. Of course every government will have some achievements, but are these achievements not far below what should be expected from a responsible government?

Just go through that useless poem and see if you can't still relate that poem to the current state of Nigeria.

Chai!
E touch you sha. Your creative poem naim you call useless so?

seankafor:
am not that kinda keyboard warrior cos I ain't getting paid to do this..

But I have witnessed pass administrations and I have come to the conclusion that this buhari regime cuts it for me in all ramifications as the all round winner in performance and gorvernance..
You can beg to diff thoor..

This one no be e-warrior stuff or is he dragging with you. He just wanna tell you that a government is successful on fulfilling its promises they made (or at least half) and not comparing themselves with past government. Simple!
Eph12 isn't dragging anything with you..

kodded:
benharama is playing for brenford in the championship (currently he is the best player in the championship) while kokcu plays for feyenoord in Netherland

OK... Thanks bro.
I'll check them out

kodded:
players like said banharama and kokcu is what we need

what club do those two guys play for lemme check dem out?

CAPdan21:
If anyone should not be on the front three it is Salah not Mane..Mane has been the best player in the EPL this season

True... But who is exceptional in that right wing aside salah?

9jamyHome:
Lol, emotions apart, the statistics are there. As at the time the league was suspended, Lingard has played 9 matches (plus 11 as a sub) with 5 shots on target and 0 goals while Bruno played just 5 matches but contributed 7 shots on target, 3 assists and 2 goals. It was on the basis that I nullified Lingard.

lol...I'm not talking about lingard sha. I'm talking about Bruno's inclusion. Same model if projected will have made Vardy looked like he would have scored 30 goals by now...but see?
So we can't use that at all to judge.
With the way James was scoring beginning of season, someone will think he'll at least reach double figures in EPL (at least 10-12 goals) , but he's still away. That's how deceiving the model can be. Football no be maths, so using mathematics to include Bruno into the team is pure sentiment.

Lana1:
You forgot ur own club's striker that is 2nd with most goals? Uncle Jo is everything ok?

... Seeing Mane at that wing is a justifiable inclusion, that's why my mind didn't go towards auba. Maybe if another person was there, and not mane, I would have obviously remembered him.

Fkhalifa:
E.g Upamenco, Kolibally,Sancho..all rated> £70
The risk is too high,and Arsenal should not near such

At all... We no fit sef. Like I said, if we can be getting the kinda kante and mahrez signings before Leicester and torreira kinda signings, then we'll be good

Expert17:
Okay....

But he is 15th on all time EPL sub appearance...

Also, 2nd on Highest goal scored by a sub

well, for the bolded, it might be true, cos when he was mostly subbed, he mostly scores goals. But his time predominantly at arsenal he was a sure sure starter. He was equally frustrating too

ChristineC:
Salah Vardy Aubameyang should take front three.

it's true sef. I've forgotten Auba

9jamyHome:
No, predictive models use current performances to predict the future. So the inclusion of Bruno is reasonable because it's assumed that his future performances will be a function of his performances before the lockdown and going by that assumption, Lingard won't even come close at all.

Anyways, a model is has good as the assumption put into it.

This is a sentimental or bias talk of the highest order. If he wasn't a man u player, I guess you would have said it unbiasedly

Expert17:
Almost 50% of his EPL appearance (Chelsea/Arsenal) are Subs

You can say Chelsea. But he was a starter at arsenal since August 2012(departure of van persie) till he left arsenal. The only season he wasn't a starter was Sanchez final full season. Aside that he was a starter at arsenal for almost 5 seasons

ChristineC:
only Salah deserve to be in that front three
only KdB in midfield
the GK is a joke
Soyuncu (who be that sef)?

who do you think will displace mane?

Expert17:
80 goals and 25 assists... playing mainly as a Sub, 9 trophies, excluding EPL.....

If not Giroud, then Phil Neville..

hope you're not referring to arsenal that giroud is playing "mainly as a sub"?

ChristineC:
all transfers are risky yet some are less risky than the others, and it's not about price.
for example, I'd rather take a punt on Lewandowski than Kane despite Lewandowski being much older and cheaper. also I wouldn't have Grealish in my team ahead of somebody like B. Silva despite the later being more expensive. this is relative to the current position of Man Utd.

I agree that finances may be a bottleneck, yet for a club like Arsenal scavenging for bargains that will land at 20m£, and more importantly, not looking to make it a one-off approach (like Dan James) but to make it a base model, surely will be a long way off from competing for anything. that's the point I'm trying to make.

as for Bayern, I don't comment on them for personal reasons.

Well, I see reasons with what you said though...good points

Roland17:
P. Viera and it is not even close! Opponents looked at our team sheet in search of No 4!!!! If he was missing, there was a sigh of relief but if No 4 was on the sheet, they knew it was going to be a dog fight with a lot of finesse and technique.

nice points bro

ChristineC:
SAF didn't go this route as much as I know. He signed a sizeable number of top players but was also able to manage some good bargains and keep most of his good players because of his legacy.

Wenger on the other hand, went in full mode and wasn't a direct rival anymore after a couple of good years, not because he wasn't a good enough coach but he didn't manage just as good. I believe he had as much influence in the running of his squad as SAF. If you prioritize bargains over quality, you fall behind. There's no two ways about it.

What you said at the bolded is true, but then teams can always quality signings without paying over the top. At least Bayern is an example. They tend to spot talents as quickly as possible and buy them cheap. Let's use grealish as example, now most top teams want him because he's good. But this same grealish have been good (or will I say showed potential as early as 2017), but because most when he was still in Aston Villa, but because he wasn't on a spotlight then, most clubs never looked his way. If a good scout would have spot him then, at least, 15-20m would have gotten him. But now, it'll be around 40-50m to prize him away from Aston Villa. Those are the kinda signings I'm clamouring for... The kante and mahrez signings. Not all these media signings where once someone shine, the next thing is to slap 50m on their head.
If only my club will start signing smartly instead of media signings, then I think we'll go far ahead as a club.

Fkhalifa:
Liverpool began with nothing more than £30, Mane,Sallah,Winaldum,Firminho and Origi are example of talented non hyped players, before they began to splash big on the Alisson,V.dijk,Fabinho,Oxlade and Keita. Before the arrivals of the latter mentioned, Liverpool had looked very competitive.

So its wise to spend averagely, before we start Adding the likes of Pepe as an icing on the cake

True bro. That's the kind of transfers I want us to make, before thinking of any big signing. Get them young and unknown, and with that, pressure won't be on their head to perform. After there's significant progress, we can think of 1-2 marquee signings

Leyqute:
Viera first. He was a strong captain and his presence is always felt on the pitch.

I’m going to exclude Makelel cos I didn’t really see him play.

After Viera, Kompany. His influence in Man City no be small.

Finally. Fabregas. He’s probably the most talented of them all but he wasn’t as iconic or influential as others in any team. Playing less influential roles in 3 different teams than others cut his points short. His departure to Barcelona didn’t help him.

Nice one bro.... Cool points