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iamoyindamola:
I'm talking about his price tag look at mane and sallah or even keita blade

cool, mane and salah are shrewd signings and that's why we need to sign like that. They bought van dijk for 90m I think. Imagine if he flopped?
So we need to buy shrewd signings like salah and mane, then 1-2 signings Allison and van dijk. That's what I'm saying

Swissh:
Imagine the disrespect towards Vieira. Makelele did nothing in the Premier league to be above Vieira.

That's why it's an opinion bro and it's open. I know it's an unpopular one
OK, let's see yours

iamoyindamola:
Fabrepass Omo ologo
Kompany next
Viera
Makele

lol...
I'll go for
1..Makalele. Wen a position is named after you, then you'll know you did something special

2... Vieira

3.. Kompany

4.. Fabre-pass

iamoyindamola:
who scouted that shakushaku master for 75m I think he's the most expensive Africa player

lol...
He might turn out good. After all, I know modric was branded one of the worst Madrid signing, forward years later, he was the one that won best player not named Ronaldo.
As long as pepe is still young, I won't give up hope just yet.

Who do you think is the most iconic no.4 in the premier league era?

ChristineC:
that's a very risky model. any big team going this route, especially in this era, is done.

Pepe will never be world class, that doesn't mean the next hyped guy wouldn't be.

in this present world of crazy market, it's better to put your scout to good work, especially if the said club can hold the player against so called big clubs.
It's not as if you won't buy one or 2 big players, but it should be majorly on the skilled unknown players. Arsene and klopp are good at it. Even your fergie too was good at it. The difference why fergie was successful than those two was because fergie players can't be easily poached unlike the first 2 coaches

Fkhalifa:
Iwobi, though shouldn't have been sold but should not be signed back except he shows the Gnabry form. If the scouts and Arterta are serious with their job, they should be able to fish out a young talented AM with qualities worthy of making if in England.

I will always respect Wenger of early years in this regard, how he scouted Hleb,SagnaRosxc, and host of many others is sumptuous.

I don't subscribe to media hyped expensive players again, just do a low key business, Talented,strong, spirited players not above £20M in their early 20s can do the trick.

Exactly! This is the kinda way I want us to go now. At least now, we can hold down our players compared to before, so if they turn out good, then we'll know they can serve us for a long time instead of using us as springboard

mostob:
IF we can't get any No 10, I won't mind having Iwobi back

Iwobi ship don sail bro. Moreover, we'll need a 10 that can score from distance and also have the technical vision to create chance for others. At least, iwobi no dey too score.

iamoyindamola:
Bros no money we are rebuilding and most importantly we have nothing to lose we ain't a big club anymore

lol... I know we're rebuilding, but I believe we should rebuild with sense. Guen can never play ozil's role (at least he shown he can't), and ESR is still too young for it. He's shown he's not yet ready.
If I'm to advice, I'll say if we're to get a young 10, let's go to all these Spanish or german academy, we'll see one or 10s that'll be ready. Even Brazil sef, 10 fit dey.
Keeping auba for a year, and grooming nketiah and martinelli for that 9 spot, while saka will be an understudy for that wing role. So by end of next season, wen auba will be free, we'll have saka as a replacement. If ceb wants to go to Madrid, then we look for a replacement (or torreira and guen can hustle for his position). If we can get partey, then fine.

Leno
Bellerin. Saliba(luiz). Mari(holding, chambers), Tierney


Partey(xhaka), ceb* (torreira, guen)
A number 10


Pepe. Martinelli (nketiah). Auba(saka).

With that lineup, we'll need a lot of understudy esp if one or two goes into injury. That's the only we I feel we can compete.

iamoyindamola:
https://www.nairaland.com/5838766/arsenal-may-sell-up-six

Sell auba, lacazette, ozil, mustafi, papa, Amn, el neny and mhki
Buy partey, Luka jovic,Mari, soares, ozil replacement (forsberg/grealish or guendouzi and Emile smith should take over)
We have nothing to lose let the hungry young players fight for what they want after all no Europe next season and the big players listed won't like that.
We should be good next season
Gradually we send away our high earners and rebuild in process

guen or ESR to replace ozil.
Well, I dunno, but I feel you're trolling!

dangermouse:
As a HOD there are these two deligent, beautiful married ladies working under me. They have been confiding in me, one after the other, consigning our GM, who wants to forcefully bed them. i tried all i could then to make them ignore and face there duties until the GM mandated me to sack the ladies. When i refused after some months, a board meeting was called and the issue raised. I stood my ground insisting that if the ladies should be sack for just no reason, i was going to resigne. A month later the ladies were sacked and i made good my threat. Till Today the coy still wants me back with better incentives to the extent of calling the ladies back. Of cause they did not go back as i made sure to fix them where i am today with better work condition and incentives.

Hmm. Oga Hod!!!

lenghtinny:
I remember Mc Loph of blessed memory but he’s not the one I’m talking about.
The guy used to perform at Stand up Nigeria comedy and night of a thousand laugh

CD John I guess you're referring to!

Fkhalifa:
Liverpool and Man city have built a strong camp, they'll boss English football for the next 4/5yrs, except they go into deep crisis.
They don't sell thier best players anyhow and they know how to get players who suit their system coupled with having lots of players in their quality prime.

Arsenal's case is scary, should Auba be sold, we may not replace him for 8 years, All these:
Loan option to buy Denis Suarez

Loan with no buy out clause..Ceballos

Newly signed but injury crisis.. Tierney,kalstroom and Cedric

Old rejected players like Luiz,Litchner,Williams

And emergency big signing to appease the fans like Ozil and Pepe.

If we don't Change from this approach ehn, we are destined for 5th/6th/7th/8th irrespective of the coaches you hire or sack.

With this pandemic, the way things are and how it might affect the market, Liverpool and man city will be the ones that are strong enough. Man u are almost there(I think just 2-3 missing link needed). Also, if we might include the latest richest team in town. Those might give Liverpool and man city run for their money. The TV rights this year will be low. Even ticket sales too will be low, so I'm thinking those that wants to strengthen (like my darling arsenal), how will they do such wen the financial budget will be low?
Well we'll just be watching sha!

Also, I feel with Arteta and those at the helm, with smart moves and transfer, we'll get it right

Fkhalifa:
They think this current Liverpool is like Arsenal who will fail to replace with quality players for 15yrs. Liverpool will spend, and this their present scout are good at getting the Klopp kinda players. You're right, Liverpool are on a solid platform that'll enable them be a worthy strong contender of the League title for the next 5yrs.

The current crop of players will not easily be swayed because Liverpool are arguably the biggest club in English football history, European and world champions, Anfield and everything the Madrid and barcas can offer.

Well said. If others are improving, Liverpool will also improve, they won't have it easy maybe winning the league next time, but they're very very strong favorite and I do see them winning within 3-5yrs.
All what you said is spot on

Greatihex:
even if Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, hazard, Salah, etc like let them sleep with their national team coach's wife, they can never be dropped for a world cup.

That is what it means to be important as a player.

Lol, there's a limit to what your importance in a team can take you.

BlueRayDick:
Alright, let's watch and see how it works out

alright bro.

BlueRayDick:
The problem with Ur assumptions is u keep isolating Loserpool like they will be the only team in good form.

I already pointed it out to u, injury to key Players will make them lose points. Other teams will get better. Man utd is 2 to 3 players from being a title contender. Even loserpool in their current form find it difficult defeating Man utd.

I know u understand what I'm saying, u are just being carried away with the present form of loserpool. We all know form is temporary. Fatigue will set in, some players will depart and some eseential players will get injured.....Even Nations cup will take away key players like Mane, Sallah.

Saying Mane's departure will not set them back is u underestimating his contribution to run to the league leadership. At least We can take a cue from Suarez's departure and we saw how it set them back.

Talking about youth and Dortmund, shebi u saw how brief their spell was....You saw how Bayern spent money and made all the talks of Dortmund being a force to contend with being a farce. By the way, Loserpool will only act as a stepping stone for those young players. If players like Van Djik and Mane sees an opportunity to join Barca and Madrid they will jump ship and that dream of loserpool winning another league in 3 to 4 years will be a tall dream honestly.

OK.. Where should I start from? OK, lemme start with Dortmund.
If you're following the trend of Dortmund, you'll know why Bayern had it easy was not that they only strengthened, but their rival was really weakened. Sale of gotze, sahin, gundogan, lewy, kagawa, will leave even the strongest of teams weak. You can't do that to the present Liverpool now, cos the only 2 teams that might considerably lure them is barca and Madrid. Aside that, it'll be difficult for teams to poach Liverpool players.

Talking about Suarez departure, why I agree with you on that, you should know that season Suarez mostly carried them, as others were mostly average (except of course coutinho). Sturridge tho had a great season, but is an average player at best. Sterling too was an average player too there(tho he tried that season too). Gerrard was already old and past his prime, and the keeper, defence and midfield was average. So removing Suarez off that team make them go back to square one. I hope you get my drift here.

Now to the injury and losing form part. Why I'm not denying they won't have such issues, but so is other 19 teams. In terms of strengthening also, they've the capacity also to strengthen. In fact, with this pandemic issue, most team will not spend like the way they intended spending before. Well, we'll watch and see how it pans out

BlueRayDick:
The problem I have with Ur post from the onset is the word in bold. How can u claim to be sure they will win the league when the have other resurging top teams to contend with?

I gave the champions league example to point it out to you that nothing is sure. Losperool's form in the EPL and UCL in their run to winning UCL last year was mad. An overly optimistic fan would've bet he's so sure they will at least get to this year's UCL semi finals at least.....We all saw how they ended up.

And talking about young players, it guarantees nothing. Winning the league has to do with u being on the form of Ur live and Ur closest rivals being at their lowest. Fact still remains loserpool has enjoyed good fortune this year with less injuries to their key players unlike their rivals. What u see with loserpool this year is just similar to that season Conte won the EPL with the same starting 11 that played week in week out with Victor Moses and Marcos Alonso being key players. Those things do not happen everyday. Look at Chelsea since that period, have they gotten to that form afterwards?

I understand your point, but one thing I do watch out for before making any prediction is process and trend and not a one-off. Chelsea case is a one-off that's why they couldn't replicate it, same as Leicester. Liverpool since appointment of klopp have been on a steady rise before they reached here unlike Chelsea and Leicester. Selling one key player wouldn't hurt them most cos klopp have the backing of the board to always strengthen the area or tweak system (just like how they didn't falter even tho they sold coutinho). Same way man u sold Ronaldo and didn't falter cos most of the core players was still there and fergie have the backing of the board.
And using champions league ouster to feel that they won't be a side to carry league, check man u 2012... They reached final 2011 and exited the group stage in 2012 in one of the weakest group stage to their standard. That still didn't stop them from competing for the league till the last day.

At the bolded, you can't tell me a group of young players together at a top club guarantees nothing? Lol. I don't believe that at all. Man u class of 1992 and barca class of 2009 lay credence to that. As long as they're not disbanded like the Ajax and Dortmund of this world, they'll always go on to be successful cos they'll always have this understanding and synergy of playing together for so many years together.

My point really is not that they'll be walloping teams the way they did this season, but even if they'll crawl to carry the league, I see them doing that cos they've team to do that and they're also young, hungry and motivated.

BlueRayDick:
Forget the long story, all I'm saying is more teams will get better.

Chelsea will get stronger than they presently are now......Man utd will become tick....Arsenal likewise. City will splash money again and the mid table teams will go to dem French league and pack talents as well.

Some of these top teams will also lay claim to the title along the way. Loserpool is strolling to the league because all these teams are weak now, it will not always be so.

At least we saw it with Leicester.

lol... I always laugh wen people call Leicester. We all know Leicester is one-off. Just a year before crowned champions, they were dragging relegation. Before that, they were just coming from relegation. That they carried the league that year is a big miracle, even all the players will attest to the fact they never dreamt of top 4 not to talk of carrying the league.
Also, I'm not saying they will stroll to the league like they did this season... No.
They won't have it easy as they did this season, but they will surely win the league.
Why most of their core players are young and are at their peak, just like the barca team of 2009 then.

BlueRayDick:
Oga just let Mane Mane to real Madrid and maybe their keeper moves to Bayern or any other big spender and u will have them struggling like barca ever since the MSN was disbanded.

This loserpool that couldn't even make it past Round of 16...... .

Forget! If loserpool lose the league, they will most likely not attain this top level again. They won't whip everybody and stroll to the league like they are doing this year. Other top teams will buy players and pose more competition. There's Newcastle trying to rebuild and cause upset.....there's a resurgent arsenal under Arteta hoping to build on the little on ground.

It won't be business as usual for loserpool firing 3 goals past anybody any more. They were lucky with injury this season, it won't always be so. Injury to key Players like Mane, Van Djik, Allison, Wijnaldum will have its toll on them.

Hmmm... You think if Mane is going to Madrid, they won't have a ready replacement or tweak their system not to balance the loss of mane? Of all their players sef, I think it's only mane that'll be likely to move in any club is interested, and since Liverpool isn't a small club, they can easily replace him(probably not with same quality but similar, or changing of system).
Also, the Newcastle of the rich owners, while there's high possibility that'll carry league if things go well, but it'll take at least 3 yrs. Even arsenal sef, with our financial situation might take us longer time before we'll think of league.
Now I'm not saying Liverpool might be this strong again just as they did this present season (losing a match throughout, a scoring plenty goals on average), no. What I'm saying is, they'll be strong enough to win a league title in the next 3-4yrs since most of their players are young, and there's always a possibility of even adding new signings too.
Lol, talking about champions league? That's a knockout competition, anybody can be knocked out, and it's not as if athletico are pushovers too.
Well, we'll watch as it pans out tho, but I believe with this crop of core players and coach, Liverpool will see at least a league, within the next 3-5yrs

BlueRayDick:
Na so people think Barca will be winning Champions league every year till Messi retires. Look at Barca now.

With time loserpool will become a normal team that loses just like man city is doing this year

OK... Let's exclude 2009 where barca was utterly dominant with messi at the helm. I believe it's from there people will feel barca will carry champions league. Check post 2009 till now, they've carried 2 champions league right? And that's my point. It's not as if these Liverpool players are old or aren't in their peak, they're young, and thinking this young hungry guys won't carry another league again is really underrating them (not saying they'll carry next season, if this season is voided). They might not carry next season, but within the next 5yrs, with this crop of players, I see them carrying a league title. The motivation is still there tbh

mine3112:
I really don't see Liverpool repeating that form this coming season if the FA deny them the league. Let's watch and see!

not saying they might do unbeaten or all those stuff, but to go another 20yrs without again from now without winning league, with this present crop of players. I don't see that happening..

kokaneprodigy:
If they give Liverpool trophy, Arsenal should sue I will contribute to the legal fees.

lol... Nobody get the right to sue Liverpool for England.
Except if they did relegation, then those guys can sue. Aside that, make we just jejely leave Liverpool to their trophy

mine3112:
Liverpool must be crowned champions or else they will have to wait for another twenty years to compete for the league. I think the wise thing for the FA is to end the league like that.

Lol... If they didn't back down last season and this season, what made you think they'll wait another 20yrs to carry league?

kokaneprodigy:
Fake news!
PSG hasn’t been declared champions

Really? PSG haven't been crowned champions?
But it's everywhere, that even Lyon wants to sue ligue1 for that sef

OK... So Dutch league have been cancelled, and it's declared null and void

French league have been cancelled and PSG is crowned champions

Liverpool will be so so praying...

ChristineC:
Ljumberg already overran the ball and was never getting there before the GK, he couldn't even complain.
the pass was between Ferdinand and Ljumberg, both had momentum and a contact was imminent irrespective of who got there first. some refs will give a freekick but a red? SMH. no ref will expect a sudden halt even if Ferdinand was a Zonda R.

besides worse things have happened but all the talk of bias when teams gets beaten is uncalled for.

https://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/jamie-vardy-dive.gif
that was a judged as a PK so? if an attacker can get the benefit of the doubt, why can't a defender get the same?

Ljumberg was never getting that ball? Wow! Just wow!
We all know in football, especially during last man, it favors attackers than defenders. Ljumberg was ahead, was already near the ball, but Ferdinand intercepted him by fouling him once. How that's not a red card ehn?

Moreover, in your next gif about arsenal players diving, I never said players don't dive. I even said I won't blame the ref for giving Rooney the Pk, I only said Rooney simulated, but you disagreed which was our debate him. That's why I told you to rewatch it.

But it's all good tho, let's disagree to agree

ChristineC:
FA pikins

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Lol... So this is counter attack?
You try oo. You try well well

popizaino:
The bolded has been the referee's modus operandi in England to frustrate teams to man United favour.A yellow card awarded to every other team is probably about 5 to 6 six warning to a man united players for the same offence. Your player receive a yellow card around the first minute of the game and united player will only receive theirs at the dying minutes of the game for the same offence he has been committing since the very first minute.

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ChristineC:
[b]you don't kick out in the box like Campbell did when dribbled and still miss the ball. any striker worth his salt will ride it. PENALTY ALL DAY.

Ok so the problem was Gary Neville missing an early yellow card.
Ashley Cole did a double kick, let's be objective...
and you missed the fact that Phil Neville (first involvement) got a yellow for a simulation by Jose Reyes, or maybe you didn't miss it
on the balance of play the better team won. there was no incident directly impacting the final result.

I don't wanna say you're sentimental cos I believe you're not, but that up there is you being sentimental to the core. It's not about missing the ball or Rooney taking advantage. It's about... Did Campbell touch Rooney for it to be a penalty.. Yes or no? The answer is No. So how is it a "Penalty All Day "?

For the rest... What will you say about the foul on ljumberg by Ferdinand? Red card or not?

ChristineC:
the game was physical, nothing new.
the last game that ended 0-0 was even more physical. silky players in both teams were targeted, don't imply that it hasn't been seen in United-Arsenal rival years. it has always been like that. Henry was salty with this one because it ended their invincible run.
point out the shambolic decisions from the video... and no the PK was a foul, Campbell was already beaten.

At the bolded. I won't agree that was a foul, Rooney dived in there. In fact, there's no contact. You can rewatch it again.

Also, while I agree for utd-arsenal match to be intense, it's the job of the ref to have things under control. On multiple occasions, Gary Neville was stamping and kicking arsenal players, and it was just a yellow card he collected. Only a kick Ashley Cole did and he was branded a yellow card. Well, like I said, maybe there's another clip with respect to this match showing arsenal player doing fouls and they're not blown, then I'll know the ref is just plain dumb. Aside that, then the ref was plainly against arsenal.

eph12:
Poor assnal